This war has been operated in complete contravention of established rules of Guerrilla Warfare. Shock and Awe? What a complete and utter disaster. We blew up the buildings we could have otherwise taken intact and then had to rebuild them. Then instead of immediately creating a strong authority we allowed people to horde weapons and high explosives, because according to Rummy it constituted freedom.
We ignored the requirements for large numbers of infantry troops, and Bremer ignored the troops requirements for translators. And while Paul Bremer micromanaged and shut down local agreements and regional attempts at democracy, Bush continued to ignore the generals.
Then some higher up got it into their mind that torturing people would help in contravention to the laws and customs of land warfare. Whats more instead of employing the Iraqis to work on rebuilding their country we sent in overpaid American contractors.
So we had a bunch of bored young iraqis, with too much firepower, graphic pictures of Abu Ghraib on Al Jazeera, with no recourse to voice their concern and we got an uprising. Is anyone really surprised with this course of events? After all this, the war has already been lost. It was probably lost in those three days after Saddams fall when we did absolutely nothing. It might have been lost after Paul Bremer spent all his time writing up Traffic Codes, or it might have been after Abu Ghraib. But regardless of the precise point of when we lost, we lost.
Our stated goals:
Create an Ally and Shining Model in the Middle East
Have all failed, we should pull out and focus on Afghanistan, at least there we may still do some good.
pollywog wrote:What?! Your troops are probably the only thing preventing all out civil war, even if it's only because they're providing an alternative target. I, for one, believe that they are doing a good job, and what you did (removing a dictator) was a noble thing to do. However, although your intentions were good, your methods may have been lacking. (When I say you and your here, I mean the American Govt.) Definitely need to stay, possibly with more or better armour, troops, etc. Plus when this is finished, all the soldiers and generals will have lots of experience at toppling dictators, so you can move on to some of the others!
When its over our troops will move to the private sector and never look back. Once active and inactive duties are used up they are out.
Solt wrote:Imagine we gave $5 Billion per month to the CIA to radically expand its influence in third world Islamic countries to infiltrate and destroy radical terror cells. This would more than double CIA's operating budget.
Hmmm considering their history, I'm not sure if that would be a good idea. CIA operations in part are why the M.E. hates us.
Swordfish wrote:As for leaving now? We're damned if we do, damned if we don't.
Exactly, so we may as well minimize casualties. Its a negative sum game now, the only choice is whether we're directly involved in it.