Sigh. I really didn't want to have to do this, because it pretty much guarantees my death. Also I realise in light of the above posts this is going to look quite suspiscious but the Scum have backed me into a corner, so here goes.
I know Rhyme is Scum because she is not the Cop, I am. I also know Summit is Scum, for two reasons, one because Rhyme claimed he is town, and two because I investigated him last night. Now I realise this is my word against someone elses, so maybe it will help if I explain why found Summit so suspicious?
1. Process of elimination. I believed Fin's Miller claim (for reasons I've already posted), and Mieulium never did anything but act like town, especially posting her notes. I'm not going to explain to you the exact process I used, cos I'll probly want to use it in other games but by the time night rolled around, I had the most probable Mafia pairings down to Summit and Rhyme or Summit and Flying Cookie.
Rhyme wrote: The statement is also making me a bit suspicious of you with the combination of "we" and "the town" both being in your post (sorry, it's day one, so I'm pretty much grasping at straws here, not to mention being suspicious of everyone talking. No FoS, just a note).
Summit.42 wrote:First of all, sorry for being inconsistant with the use of the phrases "the town" and "us"/"we" in my first post. I know it might seem slightly scummy, but it's something I always do when having multiple phrases that referes to the same thing, or people etc. I know it would be better to be consitent, but bad habits are hard to change, sadly.
Apologising for some technical grammar making him seem "slightly scummy" seemed to me like he was paranoid about looking like scum. I hadn't even thought it looked scummy and the fact that he himself seemed to think it did just seemed a bit off to me.
Summit.42 wrote:However, there is a claim I would like to happen today. If there is a miller present in the game, I think it would benefit us for him/her to claim sooner rather than later. To be honest I can see several advantages with it. Most notably we would not want to end up in a situation where we have a credible cop saying someone is scum, and they are able to claim miller. If they are the miller, it might lead to a mafia win, due to us lynching them anyway instead of the mafia, and if they are in fact mafia, it might (althoug doubtfully) be enough to let the scum get away. There are some other factors too for both sides, but I think all in any millers present should claim asap.
Also, I think we should agree, that should the miller choose not to claim, we should treat anyone claiming miller after an investigation as confirmed scum.
He asked the Miller to claim with some rather selective reasoning. Basically he encouraged a townie to make themselves seem suspicious by claiming on the first day and then said anyone who claimed after that would be scum. This gives a scum someone suspicious to point at if people get suspicious of them. Also, the revelation that we have a Miller would confirm for two goons that we are in a set up without a doctor. He basically admits it wasn't for the good of the town later.
Summit.42 wrote: I believe the only person who would have profited from claiming miller there would be the miller... He could be scum, but he will have to get really lucky and play very well to gain something for the claim at all. All in all I don't think the mafia would risk it.
Summit.42 wrote: I simply don't see the mafia taking such a risk. Also, claiming miller does increase your chances of being lynched, due to the WIFOM and general muddy waters you can create.
4. The way he tried so very very hard to fly under the radar yesterday, he obviously thinks being passive is a good way to disguise being mafia.
Summit.42 wrote: That said, when I think about it joe sticks his head out a bit too much to seem to be mafia. But it's hard to tell.
Summit.42 wrote: The only thing keeping me from voting joe right now is that he has stuck his head out a lot more than any scum would need to.
And as said I do think scum would stay more in the background. Especially when they are inexperienced players.
5. Expressed suspicion of everyone except Rhyme (and Fin actually) during the course of Day 1.
Phew that's long! hope it helps