0751: "Swimsuit Issue"

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby snowyowl » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:37 pm UTC

Oh, I'm sure us computer-savvy geeks can think of much better ways of hiding our porn. Personally, I usually delete it when I'm done with it.
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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby You, sir, name? » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:50 pm UTC

Steax wrote:
makaveli wrote:Ever find your little brother like one folder away from your deeply hidden porn stash? how do they get there?


I've noticed (by watching people snoop around computers) several methods to find these deeply hidden stashes:
  • The "Recent Documents" list
  • Browser history, leading to filenames which can then be searched
  • Browser download history
  • Media player history
  • Search for large files; they're either movies or.. movies
  • Most are hidden under folders either named "New Folder" or something like "archives", "system information", or "school stuff"

And when they're one folder away, that means you need to practice sneaking up on your brother. He heard you coming and hit 'folder up' in time.


Or, if you're using a sensible operating system, you simply don't give the other users permissions to access that directory, let alone log into your account. Or so I hear.
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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby Vanzetti » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:54 pm UTC

Easiest way is to pack files into zip (or something else) with a password.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby Rew » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:14 pm UTC

I use truecrypt to hide my secret folders. It works great, I recommend it.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby troggle » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:21 pm UTC

Rew wrote:I use truecrypt to hide my secret folders. It works great, I recommend it.

I vouch this.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby cream wobbly » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:26 pm UTC

mikekearn wrote: I'm only 22 and I feel like an old man

There are ads toward the back of the free newspapers. "Old man wltm squeamish buck"

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby cream wobbly » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:32 pm UTC

snowyowl wrote:Oh, I'm sure us computer-savvy geeks can think of much better ways of hiding our porn. Personally, I usually delete it when I'm done with it.

Delete it, clean your "recent documents" list, clear your browser cache and history. Heck, use a different browser (built on a self-contained framework unlike Webkit-based browsers) exclusively for "testing" and make sure you have a bunch of "alternate browsers" so the story sounds right.

But you'll still hang onto those bookmarks.

Also: substitute "porn" for "torrent".

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby jakerman999 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:37 pm UTC

Adding my recommendations to the hidden folder part of the thread.

•Giving the folder a name of " "(the alt code for space, not a space itself) and setting the folders icon will make invisible, but not hidden. Doesn't work in detail mode though.
•Some less conspicuous names for folders are ".config", "Setup", and the like.
•Placing folders inside critical operating system folders is always recommended.
•Windows users can change the extension on a .zip file to .lnk for no possible chance of unzipping. also, disable indexing and fast searching in the folder options.


And as to the comic itself, why is sex the only means of marketing thats prevailing in the modern world. I rather miss the funny popups.
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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby Odd_nonposter » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:40 pm UTC

I've noticed (by watching people snoop around computers) several methods to find these deeply hidden stashes:
The "Recent Documents" list
Browser history, leading to filenames which can then be searched
Browser download history
Media player history
Search for large files; they're either movies or.. movies
Most are hidden under folders either named "New Folder" or something like "archives", "system information", or "school stuff"


Most, if not all of those can be solved by Ccleaner or otherwise similar program.

I use truecrypt to hide my secret folders. It works great, I recommend it.


But yeah, this.^
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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby compro01 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:45 pm UTC

Rew wrote:I use truecrypt to hide my secret folders. It works great, I recommend it.


also, stow a copy of your favorite portable browser inside the truecrypt volume so you don't have to remember to turn on private browsing or clear the history.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby BakaDango » Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:01 pm UTC

RabbitWho wrote:If you read this comic in 1995, what would you have assumed a pop-up blocker was?

Something to help us men when you're with your lady friends...if you catch my drift.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby neoliminal » Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:34 pm UTC

"Hey dad, why is this Sports Illustrated issue dedicated to Evony?"

ProTip: Pron goes on your computer with your password and you lock it. Preferably on an unmounted drive that's encrypted. And to the previous poster's point of deleting when you are done: You are never "done."
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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby EthErealist » Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:43 pm UTC

thunderkatz wrote:I think it's the "gosh" that really makes this comic.


I second that. It made me laugh.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby Essah » Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:50 pm UTC

Steax wrote:
makaveli wrote:Ever find your little brother like one folder away from your deeply hidden porn stash? how do they get there?


[*] Most are hidden under folders either named "New Folder" or something like "archives", "system information", or "school stuff"[/list]

:| how do you know that? godammit now i have to rename it :wink:

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby adaviel » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:17 pm UTC

Rew wrote:I use truecrypt to hide my secret folders. It works great, I recommend it.

Right. Hiding "questionable content" (hereafter QC) is actually quite hard. QC may be pr0n, bank statements, tax returns, cellphone records, passwords - anything you don't want your kids, random passers-by, or laptop thieves to get hold of. Disk encryption does a much better job than just hidden folders and deleting stuff, partly because there ain't no such thing as "deleting" a file. There's forgetting how to get to it, and there's "erasing" it - jumping up and down on every bit with a magnet until it's unreadable, which takes ages for a big file like a movie.
The other thing you can do with truecrypt etc. is to create a browser profile inside the encrypted container - that way you keep all your QC history, browser cache and passwords but they're encrypted and inaccessible when you unmount the container. You can also burn truecrypt containers to DVD (at least, I think you can. Certainly on some container-based encryption products). Much better than storing QC in ISO format. Ditto, backing them up on untrusted storage. (However, encrypted files are a pain for differential backup - change one byte, and the entire file changes)

Yeah, Linux (or Vista, for that matter) has decent file permissions to block other users. Just remember that USB sticks are usually VFAT without such protection (unless you reformat them as ext3/NTFS, or better yet, truecrypt), and that with most software, QC hangs around in RAM or swapspace. I found my credit card number in /dev/kmem once after quitting a secure session of Netscape.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby Shale » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:46 pm UTC

Wait, they're wearing clothes? Must be an old issue.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby styrofoam » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:57 pm UTC

If you want to do it right, but a LiveUSB Linux distro on a flash drive, and encrypt the filesystem. Though I don't use that. I have Konqueror set not to remember history or to keep cookies, and if I'm concerned I'll clear the cache. GPG is also a great way to record secrets (passwords, etc).
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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby logixoul » Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:02 pm UTC

Ok, this got a huge booming guffaw out of me :lol:

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby cah » Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:10 pm UTC

Can you just make your own login and then restrict NTFS permissions? That should be fine against any accidental discoveries (I'm not talking about a direct attack)

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby Kaijyuu » Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:11 pm UTC

I have ~4 "new folder" on my computer. It used to be within one of those; now I just look stuff up when I want it.
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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:25 pm UTC

Mo6eB wrote:I predict future men will be aroused more by women with their clothes on, rather than off.

Men are.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby Cpt.DaveyJones » Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:23 pm UTC

jakerman999 wrote:And as to the comic itself, why is sex the only means of marketing thats prevailing in the modern world. I rather miss the funny popups.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby Snowdream » Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:23 pm UTC

I predict future men will be aroused more by women with their clothes on, rather than off.


That era has come and gone, and is coming back!

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby BlueKitties » Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:33 pm UTC

I just browse for and hide my goodies in a password protected Hyper-Visor. It's pretty much immune to snooping for the most part, unless someone seriously tech savvy wants to find my goods.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby medfoe » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:35 pm UTC

Dude, this is so true! The porn in popup ads can be some of the roughest out there, and it just pops up when kids are on the internet, even with a pop-up blocker, sometimes.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby XbHW_TestEngr » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:59 pm UTC

From the other response thread:
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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby SpringLoaded12 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:42 pm UTC

makaveli wrote:Ever find your little brother like one folder away from your deeply hidden porn stash? how do they get there?

Two words: External drive. :mrgreen: Solved!

I love the kid's "Gosh!" at the end. I'm not sure why.

EDIT: I've only ever encountered porn pop-ups while on porn sites. What sites do people go to that aren't porn sites, but that have porn pop-ups? Am I browsing da intarwebz the wrong way?
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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby styrofoam » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:58 pm UTC

SpringLoaded12 wrote:EDIT: I've only ever encountered porn pop-ups while on porn sites. What sites do people go to that aren't porn sites, but that have porn pop-ups? Am I browsing da intarwebz the wrong way?

I've seen (not popups, but ads) porn-esc stuff on encyclopedia dramatica...
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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby Shadowtroid » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:10 pm UTC

Once I borrowed someones laptop, and found a bunch of explicit searches on the Bing search history on the side. It was kinda weird.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby FurbyFubar » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:51 pm UTC

Shadowtroid wrote:Once I borrowed someones laptop, and found a bunch of explicit searches on the Bing search history on the side. It was kinda weird.


Yeah, I see what you mean. Who uses Bing?

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby .cheeseofdoom. » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:14 pm UTC

I was actually just clicking through my friends computer, and well, I found some QC for sure. He had it about 3 folders from his "My Documents" folder, I face palmed, quickly closed it so he wouldn't see, and couldn't believe how nobody had found the folder.

I then went home and got TrueCrypt, made a hidden drive, then put the file you need to use to mount it in a long series of folders that were actually some odd unused program files, made an invisible folder at the end of that trail, and put the file to mount inside. So I now have all that protection, plus a password. Overboard? Not at all.

I would recommend every single one of you get TrueCrypt if you never want someone to find your things. There is no possible way to get into your files without a password (which is how your computer should be set up anyways).

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby Coffee » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:17 pm UTC

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby Dvandemon » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:23 pm UTC

mikekearn wrote:Glad to see that xkcd is staying classy as always. :lol:

It really is amazing to see how desensitized kids are these days. I'm only 22 and I feel like an old man when I pick up any of my younger sisters from middle school, hearing the other kids dropping f-bombs and the like. I didn't do that until at least high school!

I've always felt that way (i'm only 15) because I was raised not to cuss. Now I cuss a storm whenever my family isn't around :wink:
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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby ManaUser » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:51 pm UTC

jakerman999 wrote:Adding my recommendations to the hidden folder part of the thread.

•Giving the folder a name of " "(the alt code for space, not a space itself) and setting the folders icon will make invisible, but not hidden. Doesn't work in detail mode though.

Invisible folder. Clever.

P.S. Technically what you probably want is a non-breaking space (Alt+255), the alt code for a normal space is Alt+32, but you still can't use that as a filename, regardless of how you typed it.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby gordysc » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:01 am UTC

FurbyFubar wrote:Yeah, I see what you mean. Who uses Bing?


Win.

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby asdfzxc » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:36 am UTC

If I really need to hide something I'll just put it in some obscure compressed file format (.kgb is my favorite because it's so obscure), then go into some random game install, find some non-standard, hard-to-open extension (my personal favorites are .U and Valve .PAK), and disguise it as one of the other files. It's completely undetectable unless you know that it's there, and even then you have to play Guess The Filetype until you figure it out. :D

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby BioTube » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:48 am UTC

encfs would save all those gymnastics. While you can tell something's there, it'll make it all meaningless gibberish. Oh - and hiding stuff in Windows's system folders doesn't always work right - I once stuck something in a folder that wouldn't let me delete it(I got caught, of course).
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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby IIAOPSW » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:00 am UTC

OR

(this might be crazy talk)

you could just stream your porn from one of those "youtube of porn" sites (red tube, porn tube etc).

that way theres no downloading, no secret folders, no effort.

still a little paranoid?

well then you could use incognito mode of google chrome. doesnt show up in any history or anything really.


but if thats to complicated then sure, download/encrypt/obscure the location of your precious precious porn you voyeuristic, chronic masturbator's (not that i'm any better ;)
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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby IIAOPSW » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:03 am UTC

asdfzxc wrote:If I really need to hide something I'll just put it in some obscure compressed file format (.kgb is my favorite because it's so obscure),




I love your use of ".KGB"

spy much?

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Re: "Swimsuit Issue" Discussion

Postby Doodle77 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:49 am UTC

I seriously keep my porn in %temp%.
And nobody finds it.


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