A town called Eureka

[EdgarJPublius]

I thought there was already a thread for this, but I guess I was thinking of the short discussion in the 'Favorite Shows' thread...
If there is already a thread then please forgive the weakness of my search-fu and merge appropriately.

Anyway, I'm really liking the new season, I was a little skeptical of the promise made by the first episode, but the Arc has proven to be a really strong one, thanks I'm sure in no small part to the ever-excellent Dr. Gaius B- I mean James Callis (actually, I didn't recognize him during the first episode of the season, when I saw his name in the credits I did an honest double takes and had to rewind).

This last episode was especially awesome, but that's not actually why I decided to make this thread. What did inspire me so was the teaser for next weeks episode and the fact that it apparently features one

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Nathan Stark! I always figured he was still out there in the timey-wimey wibbley-wobblyness and was disappointed when he didn't show up after the time-line was changed in 'Founders Day'

though I imagine his return will be temporary.
nonetheless

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Yay Stark!

[mercuryseven]

I have only watched one or two episodes of Eureka in Season 1. However, I did come across this Comic Con Panel where two of the Eureka writers participated. The main topic is about the "Good and Bad of abusing science in science fiction". Here the writers tell the audience how their creative process took place...

[Alder]

I've just started watching Eureka, seen seasons 1 and 2 on DVD, and considering getting the 3rd.

I really like it! It's quirky and amusing, and the characters are (mostly!) interesting and fun. I couldn't resist looking under the spoiler tags despite being behind so I'd just like to say:

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Stark is back? I didn't know he was gone!!! In-ter-est-ing...

Anyway, if anyone wants to talk about what they liked in the first two seasons, or tell me why I should buy the next...

[Durinthal]

The third season has two separate arcs which both have interesting new characters, and then the current season turns everything on its head.

About the current season:

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Old Spice (okay, Grant, but I prefer that moniker ) is an interesting fellow. A bit grating at times to me personally, but I still like him as a character. This is turning out to be my favorite arc so far.

Also, Beverly showing up was a good "WTF?" moment for me. I'm curious where they're going with this.

This last episode was especially awesome, but that's not actually why I decided to make this thread. What did inspire me so was the teaser for next weeks episode and the fact that it apparently features one

Spoiler:

Nathan Stark! I always figured he was still out there in the timey-wimey wibbley-wobblyness and was disappointed when he didn't show up after the time-line was changed in 'Founders Day'

though I imagine his return will be temporary.

I'm looking forward to this. Very, very much so.

[RogueCynic]

I've seen it on a few marathons, it looked interesting. I liked when the season didn't have a central theme, just when the experiments caused problems. I think having a theme for a season drags it down, like "Star Trek: Voyager".

[Zohar]

It really depends on the show and the writers... Look at BSG, True Blood, Babylon 5 etc.

As for Eureka, I liked it, watched the first season, not much after. Didn't know they had a third...

[EdgarJPublius]

The arcs from previous seasons have been pretty lackluster, but they never really got in the way of the show's charm. However, the arc for this season has been pretty incredible and is really playing to the show's strengths.

[ArgonV]

Anyone expecting

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Stark somehow knowing about the time travel already?

[Magnanimous]

I haven't started watching yet, but I'm definitely going to eventually. And I was pretty excited about James Callis being in a few episodes, but apparently they're all in season 4. Angst.

[animeHrmIne]

This is one of my watch-it-when-I-see-it-on shows. I don't actively follow it, but if I flip to it I'll watch it, or if I'm bored I'll catch up on Hulu. I've been bored a lot lately so I've see the whole current season, and I have to say that Grant is a really interesting character. I love what they've done with him, showing how he's adapting and how his perspective is different. But he's just sooooo grating. Sometimes I honestly have to pause for a few minutes to get over how annoying he is when he's on screen. It's like he's awesome as an idea, but I kind of want to slap him when I actually see him.

I like the dynamic changes as well. Fargo is in charge of GD so his involvement makes more sense than just gets-into-trouble-way-too-often. Which lets Allison's story lines be more about her son (who is my brother if my brother were smart) and the love-triangle (which is a necessity for modern shows apparently, so I'm thankful this one is at least not that annoying). I like how they moved Jo so that she could shine on her own, and let Andy and Jack work together more. All in all, I really like the changes they made, it's refreshing without being too out of character.

Looking forward to seeing how they resolve this season's plot, too. I really like time travel plots.

[MJZot]

I'd posted before, but it may have dropped out. I try again. Apologies for first post by me.

Do we need spoilers here or not?

Anyways....

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I'm not a fan of the season open, as time travel is usually used to cover weak writing.
With Stark showing up, it reminds me of why time travel plots annoy me. If Alison and Fargo are half as smart as they are written, they would have checked histories of GD to see what pivotal events changed. They'd know that Stark wasn't dead. Even as such, Alison's son never mentions his father, I guess.....

[You, sir, name?]

I'd posted before, but it may have dropped out. I try again. Apologies for first post by me.

Do we need spoilers here or not?

Anyways....

Spoiler:

I'm not a fan of the season open, as time travel is usually used to cover weak writing.
With Stark showing up, it reminds me of why time travel plots annoy me. If Alison and Fargo are half as smart as they are written, they would have checked histories of GD to see what pivotal events changed. They'd know that Stark wasn't dead. Even as such, Alison's son never mentions his father, I guess.....

But then, the problem with writing smart characters is that you need to be as smart as them to actually pull it off.

[podbaydoor]

Spoiler:

Nathan Stark fans NEED to see this preview. It is full of AWESOME (and shirtless Ed Quinn, and Carter/Stark banter, and...just watch it.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_b6SsLEpFc

[Durinthal]

Great episode all around. And was it just me, or was there a crashed program error message on a monitor at the end of the last scene?

[Xeio]

I knew this season was ending way too cleanly...

[EdgarJPublius]

I was really disappointed with the season ending cliffhanger, though I don't know how much of that was due to me thinking the series was gonna end on the holiday special with out any resolution.

Since there is going to be one more, longer season, I hope the cliffhanger can be turned around into a good plot for a couple of episodes-half season or so. Though considering that

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Like what, half the regular cast? is missing and/or left Eureka

I imagine things will status-quo out extremely rapidly.

[UniqueScreenname]

I love the writers on Eureka. This whole episode had me doubting that I loved them, but then the end made me love them again.

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Carter and Jo being a couple is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Also, she left at the end of the last season, so for them to not at all mention her leaving and why she came back was annoying. So to find out it was all artificial (which wasn't a huge surprise for me) made me happy the writers weren't giving up right before the end.

[Angua]

You're an episode behind, USN. Don't read this spoiler until you've watched the next one:

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I really hope they find away to bring Holly back - it's the last season and it will be so sad to leave Fargo alone (and they were such a cute couple!). Maybe she isn't completely dead - her brain is just fried but will get repaired. I'm wondering if they'll put her in as an NPC, or have her dead from something else within the simulation.

[Will]

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*cry* they killed Felicia Day!
I'm not assuming they'll bring her back--after all, Felicia Day was always credited as a "Guest Star" and never as part of the regular cast.

[You, sir, name?]

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[UniqueScreenname]

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This is sadness upon sadness. But I think it's totally possible for them to program her into the simulation, at least for one episode. Having her completely disappear would certainly raise several red flags to the crew. There will probably be some contrived, obviously simulated breakup scene between her and Fargo, but then no more.

I'm honestly more shocked about how this was the plan from the very beginning. Which I don't understand, because all the people were already working in Eureka, so they could have gotten the ideas from them anyway. Is this just an elaborate plan to get all the credit themselves? Or just something that Beverly came up with because she's crazy and Wen is too coldhearted to really care either way?

[Angua]

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I was wondering about the rational too, given that they still seem to be working (at least in part) with the DoD anyway. I'm wondering if they do more blackmarket stuff as well as the DoD, so get more money this way.

[SirBryghtside]

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I'm honestly more shocked about how this was the plan from the very beginning. Which I don't understand, because all the people were already working in Eureka, so they could have gotten the ideas from them anyway. Is this just an elaborate plan to get all the credit themselves? Or just something that Beverly came up with because she's crazy and Wen is too coldhearted to really care either way?

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I was thinking about this during the episode, and... I have a pretty darn good theory, if I do say so myself.

At first I thought she was just being generic Chaotic Evil. But around 3/4 of the way through, I worked out an alternative. How many times has the world come within an inch of destruction because of the exploits at Eureka? And what if they could remove that danger? That's exactly what's going on here. Wen and Beverly aren't just kidnapping people for kicks, they're doing it to save the world.

Also, mandatory for Felicia

[Angua]

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I'm honestly more shocked about how this was the plan from the very beginning. Which I don't understand, because all the people were already working in Eureka, so they could have gotten the ideas from them anyway. Is this just an elaborate plan to get all the credit themselves? Or just something that Beverly came up with because she's crazy and Wen is too coldhearted to really care either way?

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I was thinking about this during the episode, and... I have a pretty darn good theory, if I do say so myself.

At first I thought she was just being generic Chaotic Evil. But around 3/4 of the way through, I worked out an alternative. How many times has the world come within an inch of destruction because of the exploits at Eureka? And what if they could remove that danger? That's exactly what's going on here. Wen and Beverly aren't just kidnapping people for kicks, they're doing it to save the world.

Also, mandatory for Felicia

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I sort of wonder though - how accurately can this supercomputer portray completely new things that they come up with. Like with the net thing - Zayne didn't even know if it would work, how do they know that it would work in reality (especially as the simulation seemed to be simulating things from the character's minds).

[UniqueScreenname]

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I'm honestly more shocked about how this was the plan from the very beginning. Which I don't understand, because all the people were already working in Eureka, so they could have gotten the ideas from them anyway. Is this just an elaborate plan to get all the credit themselves? Or just something that Beverly came up with because she's crazy and Wen is too coldhearted to really care either way?

Spoiler:

I was thinking about this during the episode, and... I have a pretty darn good theory, if I do say so myself.

At first I thought she was just being generic Chaotic Evil. But around 3/4 of the way through, I worked out an alternative. How many times has the world come within an inch of destruction because of the exploits at Eureka? And what if they could remove that danger? That's exactly what's going on here. Wen and Beverly aren't just kidnapping people for kicks, they're doing it to save the world.

Also, mandatory for Felicia

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I sort of wonder though - how accurately can this supercomputer portray completely new things that they come up with. Like with the net thing - Zayne didn't even know if it would work, how do they know that it would work in reality (especially as the simulation seemed to be simulating things from the character's minds).

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Yeah, cuz all they're getting are prototypes. There's no assurance it's gonna work, and for all we know, the dangerous part could come again when they're building the...Gee Willikers SPINOFF. EVIL EUREKA!!!!!!!

[Angua]

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I felt so sorry for Fargo.

[ArgonV]

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Yeah, I was hoping the glitches still in the program would be due to Holly still being in there, somewhere. Guess not. Wen got what she deserved though

[Angua]

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Hurray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holly's coming back. Hopefully Fargo can build her a new body or something - kind of like Andy's.

[SirBryghtside]

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Hurray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holly's coming back. Hopefully Fargo can build her a new body or something - kind of like Andy's.

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Yeah, I doubt they'll go for a 'Zane and Fargo's adventures in gravedigging' episode

I'm loving how this plotline is turning out, hope she gets more screentime in the next one. Judging from the synopsis I glanced at, it looks like that's the case

[UniqueScreenname]

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Can I just mention Jo never should have said anything? Nothing good would ever have come out of that conversation.

[UniqueScreenname]

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I think they've officially reached the limit of "How many ways can we almost kill Holly?" plot twists that I can take. Just make a decision already. We will move on, because we're going to be forced to anyway when the show ends.

[UniqueScreenname]

2 episodes left

[mr-mitch]

I've heard there is also a Christmas episode, and one is a 2 hour episode.

[Thesh]

I'm kind of getting sick of this show, but I still want to stick it out until the end. I would have enjoyed this last season much better if

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instead of getting everyone out of the matrix, they would have left them in for the whole season and had virtual Lupo and Carter kill off a character or two each episode until there was no one left (or the rescue the remaining handful at the end). The last Senator Wen scene should have been the very last scene of the show.

[EdgarJPublius]

Yea, it looks like they're gonna end it with the conclusion of

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the Evil Holly body-snatcher

storyline, which could have been interesting if it had more than three episodes to play out.

The whole

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new-timeline Deacon spy-ring

thing had a ton of potential too, but again, just not enough time to play out.

[UniqueScreenname]

WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M SOOOOOOOOOOO SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm gonna miss this show so much.

[Dhes]

Well that’s it for Eureka... but at least the SyFy channel had some money to start a new series about Jack Osbourne investigating paranormal activities.
Because what a science fiction channel really need is at least 5 shows about ghosts and stuff. Maybe if we’re lucky we will get some more vampires and werewolf.

Sorry about this post, but I really liked Eureka.

[UniqueScreenname]

That's one of the reasons they switched it from SciFi to SyFy, so they could bend the limitations of that term a bit. So basically I will not watch anything other than the Twilight Zone marathon on that channel. I will forget it exists. This is what you get, SyFy. THIS IS WHAT YOU GET!!!!!

On a more finale based note:

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I love how Zoe got involved in a cause almost as soon as she got there. I loved Zoe. Happy they remembered how to write for her.

[wam]

Yeah Im disappointed that its over. I am glad that they brought back zoe. I did feel that the last season wasn't as good as the early ones, but that may be my dislike of shows that alter timelines.

Final show stuff.

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Does anyone else think that fargo and holly are going to show up in warehouse 13? The whole "project for DARPA that involves a lot of travelling and I get to pick my own team". Especially given fargo has already appeared in warehouse 13.

[wam]

I am running a Eureka themed mafia game.

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