Zamfir wrote:I have to say, I never get convinced by people who engage me when I don't want to listen. I suspect the same is true for nearly everyone else. There would be a lot more Jehovah's Witnesses if you could convince people by being persistent.
Persistence can work though - very effectively. If it didn't, you wouldn't see billboards or the same truck commercial over and over during a football game.
With Jehovah's Witnesses, people like you and me aren't really the point of the door-to-door recruitment. They know that most people are going to slam the door in their face and are ready for it ahead of time. The act of door-to-door recruitment helps build a set of shared experiences (and social interaction) within their community. It helps them fulfill their mission and gives a 'purpose' to their religion. It also does win them some recruits. Some people are curious and listen (and occasionally opt-in), some people are just in a place where they are looking for something / looking to belong.
General Norris wrote:@Zamfir
This is very politiaclly incorrect but I don't think that the Witnesses are using compelling arguments so no matter how much they try they will ultimatedly fail.
Most salesmanship has nothing to do with providing a 'compelling argument'. Rather, it's about creating an emotional response - a desire to have something. It's also the salesperson creating a bond with the buyer, and giving the buyer a feeling of obligation or commitment. If you've ever felt bad about wasting a salesperson's time you are falling victim to some of those techniques and pressures.
Sales techniques work differently on different people, but they do work. If you go to a car dealership ready and excited about buying a new car and knowing pretty much what you want, you are an easy sale. On the other had, if you are just shopping around and not really planning on buying, you are a harder sale. If you are pissed at the dealer and trying to return a lemon, you are probably going to be a nearly impossible sale.
When it comes to say...the Jehovah Witness example, most of us are closer to the third group than the first group. That doesn't mean the first or second groups don't exist.
To get back to the topic of the thread though, just because a movie is about a sensitive topic doesn't mean it was a good movie. It may seem unrealistic or manufactured.
At the same time, to someone who isn't in that position or hasn't been around it before, dealing with a real life abuse case will often seem surreal or unbelievable. It's no different from trying to understand suicide without any experience being in that place. People in those positions make irrational decisions because they have an irrational view of the world.
Of course, the utterly screwed up situation and often unfathomable (from the outside) decisions and behavior in those situations doesn't excuse crappy writing. Bad is bad.