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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 2, Twin deaths

Postby iroZn » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:04 am UTC

OK looks like TS is going to get it. I don't want it to go without a lynch so I'll hammer (I believe). I'm still thinking a negativeone lynch would have been better, roband maybe you could cop them.

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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 2, Twin deaths

Postby Dr Ug » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:08 am UTC

I think you mean e_e should cop them, but I would prefer e_e cop lataro.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 2, Twin deaths

Postby roband » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:09 am UTC

I'm not a cop. And yeah, that's the hammer by my maths.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 2, Twin deaths

Postby Zid » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:40 am UTC

I wonder what e_e will do now considering there are 3 people tied for 2nd. It'd be nice to know but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 2, Twin deaths

Postby ThinkSweet » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:30 pm UTC

Well if that's the hammer, you just lynched the town doctor. I'm the selfless one (meaning I can only target other people). The other doctor is the selfish doctor who can only target themselves. & no I don't know who it is. If there's time, someone please unvote! Otherwise I guess I'll just say good luck, though I have the feeling the remaining townies are now slightly screwed.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 2, Twin deaths

Postby ThinkSweet » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:31 pm UTC

Oh, FWIW:
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 2, Twin deaths

Postby roband » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:32 pm UTC

I don't think we should be posting, let alone unvoting.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 2, Twin deaths

Postby existential_elevator » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:39 pm UTC

Well, on the off-chance ThinkSweet is telling the truth, they are my only hope of survival.

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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 2, Twin deaths

Postby roband » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:49 pm UTC

Guys, it was 5 to lynch. It's unfortunate if the claim is true, but it's done.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 2, Twin deaths

Postby tastelikecoke » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:26 pm UTC

If I remember correctly in some games you can take hammers back, might as well take a chance. Not that I trust TS completely but that's an awfully wrong timing for a defense.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 2, Twin deaths

Postby Zid » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:37 pm UTC

TS said "if that's the hammer" which meant TS assumed that was it. If the vote does successfully get taken back, TS is screwed anyway, as nobody can protect from a NK, which is why there was no claim in the face of voting, which was a smart move. The plea to be unvoted is to try and help us out in this soft lylo situation.

Looking at the other side, and assuming it is possible to take away a hammer, then place your vote elsewhere, otherwise it doesn't really serve much effect. Today is the deadline.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Night 2

Postby BigNose » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:27 pm UTC


Votals:
ThinkSweet - 5, Lataro, Chandani, Dr Ug, TLC, iroZn
Chandani - 1, Roband
McMesher - 1, Zid

ThinkSweet is lynched


Just because the MOD is not around to call NIGHT, doesn't mean that you should continue the conversation.
I am slightly disappointed at some of the older (duration rather than age) players in doing so.

Night Actions please

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Re: Mafia - Twins - Night 2, Dirty Doctor

Postby existential_elevator » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:47 pm UTC

...Just saying, but sometimes when games run to deadlines, especially in turbos, the scheduled night overrides the hammer.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Night 2, Dirty Doctor

Postby roband » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:48 pm UTC

I've never experienced that. But it's night, so I shall shutup
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Night 2

Postby Dr Ug » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:33 pm UTC

BigNose wrote: am slightly disappointed at some of the older (duration rather than age) players in doing so.
That rule varies from mod to mod.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Night 2

Postby BigNose » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:29 am UTC

Dr Ug wrote:
BigNose wrote: am slightly disappointed at some of the older (duration rather than age) players in doing so.
That rule varies from mod to mod.

Noted.


In other news, I am still waiting on some for Night Actions
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Night 2, Dirty Doctor

Postby roband » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:56 am UTC

Any chance of a deadline, so I can stop checking back and being disappointed?

I guess it's only been 2 days so far, but *yawn* :)
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby BigNose » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:27 am UTC

ThinkSweet is lynched and was a Town Doc.
Existential_Elevator is NK'd and was a Town Cop
TasteLikeCoke is NK'd and was the Runt.
Beside him was a note:

Not sure who is who, but these are definitely paired in some way:
Boreeas and Roband
Chandani and Roband
Misnomer and Roband
Zid and Roband


8 alive, 4 votes to lynch - LYLO
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby roband » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:36 am UTC

Well, my thoughts today were mainly going to be based around TS pushing quite a lot against TLC.

If TS did turn out to be doctor (which is a rather large balls up from us, as it happens) I was going to be looking into TLC rather hard.

Now, it seems I don't need to do that. Err, good work scum? But it does seem that the Runt had a night kill which they managed to get off before they were killed themselves.

The e_e death seems unavoidable, but we're still losing lots of town players here. It seems to me that Chandani must be a town supporter alongside myself, in order for us to still be surviving.

Mod, how are we set on MYLO/LYLO?
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby roband » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:50 am UTC

Oh, it says LYLO. Sorry for failing at reading.
Ok.

My other thoughts were on mcmesher potentially being the Runt. Obviously that's not the case.

The only other thing I was considering previously was how quickly Dr Ug jumped on Zid early on D1 for a miswording in a post. I think a FOS would have sufficed, or even just asking for clarification, especially as Zid is a new player.

That caused suspicion to me. FOS at Dr Ug.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby Zid » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:20 am UTC

I agree about TLC, I was going to try and press TLC because I was getting suspicious vibes also.

Chandani, would you care to confirm or deny the Runt's note? The other 75% of the note is true, I'd like to know if it's 100%

Well done to scum for getting the runt, care to tell us how you did it?
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby Zid » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:26 am UTC

EBWOP: Forgot the following smiley at the end of my last post: :roll:

I also think any claims right now might be a bad idea, as indicative of what happened to e_e. Although selfish doctor would be safe, and help our odds, reducing the chance of a mislynch, I guess.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 2, Twin deaths

Postby negativeone » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:56 am UTC

ThinkSweet wrote:Well if that's the hammer, you just lynched the town doctor. I'm the selfless one (meaning I can only target other people). The other doctor is the selfish doctor who can only target themselves. & no I don't know who it is. If there's time, someone please unvote! Otherwise I guess I'll just say good luck, though I have the feeling the remaining townies are now slightly screwed.


The fact that there are two doctors kinda makes me think that there are two cops.
I have a hunch about this. If TS knew he/she was the selfless doctor, and knew that there were a selfish one, why didn't e_e know what differences he had with the other cop?
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby roband » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:03 pm UTC

Selfless/Selfish requires targetting, and therefore info on which you are.

Sane/Insane cop does not - therefore the mod probably hasn't supplied that info.

The selfish doc should claim, so we don't lynch them.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby negativeone » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:09 pm UTC

roband wrote:Selfless/Selfish requires targetting, and therefore info on which you are.

Sane/Insane cop does not - therefore the mod probably hasn't supplied that info.

The selfish doc should claim, so we don't lynch them.


Yeah, makes sense. Since e_e was sane, the other cop may be insane, given that it doesn't work like rolecop/alignment cop. Actually, it's LYLO. Anyone up for a NL?
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby Chandani » Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:37 pm UTC

The note is true. :D
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby roband » Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:43 pm UTC

What can I say? ;)

But seriously, why? Seems very odd.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby Zid » Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:45 pm UTC

Ok, so we're down to picking out of 5 from 8, unless anyone else can be eliminated?
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby Chandani » Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:54 pm UTC

No idea about the others, but I picked you because of your minion avatar that you used to have.

Seeing who's alive:
(-)1. negativeone (loool)
2. ThinkSweet Town
3. roband Town
4. Zid Town
5.Boreeas (Evil Twins FTW) Town
6.mcmesher
7.tastelikecoke (I have a twin?!) Runt
8. existential_elevatorTown
9. iroZn
10.Chandani (let's see how this go) Town
11. Lataro (Quoteblock go!)
12. Dr Ug (Awww you stole my slot)
13. Misnomer (unlucky for some...) Town

So there are three town people and 5 other people.
Not sure what a LYLO would be... anyone could do the math?
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby Chandani » Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:55 pm UTC

EBWOP: Crap, that was suppposed to be strikeout, not underlined, to represent the dead people.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby Lataro » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:01 pm UTC

Okay... so eight of us left, four to vote, and it's LYLO.

I guess this means a three person scum team, or two scum and a supporter.

So as to narrow our odds at this juncture, I am the selfless doctor.

I think I might of drew a NK N1, since there was only one death, and N2 we had two deaths, can't be sure though. I had hoped to remain hidden and draw more deaths since I'm immortal, however at LYLO, I'd rather narrow the field here.

I'll have to do a reread on the other four and see where they lay, my gut is leaning towards negitiveone, mainly because TS and EE whom are now confirmed town were leaning that way. I'm gonna not vote though since we have to be careful here.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby roband » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:14 pm UTC

My thoughts are still on Ug, but I'll wait to hear from him.

mcmesher has also caught my attention. I have noticed that he was absent in the build up to night 1. And absent for the first 4 (IIRC) real life days of day 2. Then he commented on how there was only one NK.

I suspect he could be in charge of one of the NKs in the game...
In fact,
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby Zid » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:30 pm UTC

Ok, 4 from 8, we can still do this. I agree that not claiming earlier on was best for town as so to attempt to draw away more NKs.

Compelling argument from roband.

I'd also like to apologise for bringing up the selfish doctor role, unfortunately I can't un-know that.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby Lataro » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:54 pm UTC

EBWOP:
bah, fail.

Selfish Doctor... that's what I get for typing a message in a hurry. I am the Selfish Doctor
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby mcmesher » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:25 pm UTC

roband wrote:mcmesher has also caught my attention. ... Then he commented on how there was only one NK.

I suspect he could be in charge of one of the NKs in the game...
In fact,
Vote mcmesher

are you saying that my comment about there only being one nk incriminates me? i was merely being observant, and, lo and behold, on n2 there were 2 nk's.

if i had to pick someone, i would go with irozn, because d2 he seemed pretty vehement about voting for me, and then switched right to negativeone and then ts, because
OK looks like TS is going to get it
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby roband » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:28 pm UTC

I was just pointing out my observation.

Your (verging on aggressive) defence of yourself yesterday was also worrying.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby mcmesher » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:35 pm UTC

that i can't argue with. but, as i said before, i was just a little peeved that i was getting lynched for absence. i didn't know that that would happen, and i will try to avoid that mistake in the future.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby Zid » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:22 pm UTC

mcmesher, what do you mean by "lo and behold on n2 there are 2 nks"?
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby mcmesher » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:41 pm UTC

Zid wrote:mcmesher, what do you mean by "lo and behold on n2 there are 2 nks"?

well, roband thought it was suspicious that i commented on there being only one nk n1, which i said because there seemed like multiple roles that granted nk's, and i'm saying that that comment was valid because n2, there were indeed two nk's.
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Re: Mafia - Twins - Day 3, Scum is afoot

Postby Lataro » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:59 pm UTC

This implies that you are responsible for one of those kills. That was the point Roband was suggesting. You're looking worse and worse here.

Vote: mcmesher

You seem like the best candidate in a reread to be scum at this point.
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