[T] Zoo Mafia 2: Camelot. Town wins.

[Mavketl]

Especially one whose sole aim is to get townies killed.

Nowhere does it say that all nautical creatures are town. I would actually expect at least one to be scum, for balance reasons.

(larger post coming up, just wanted to throw that out first)

[Chandani]

I like to randomly speculate. I do. But instead of doing the good random speculating method and randomly speculate on all possible outcomes, I just focused on town/town. Why? Well, not many people had brought it up at the time, and probability wise, there is a pretty high chance that two people at this point in the game are both town (it just depends on how many scum are there, of course). It may also be that a certain person in my household kept on interrupting me when I attempted to write the post, thus losing train of thought. I guess it's weird to bring it up, but that possibility still exists, and not talking about it is wrong.

Frankly, I'm surprised that they are both town. Ibarra's wishy-washiness was slightly bugging me, and I don't like his falseclaiming so that he could get people lynched. But I can't do much about that now.

Once again here is your reasoning that acknowledges that some people are surely town. You said that both cjdrum and me are town without even giving a statement that implies assumption. You just bring up some statement about probability and how we're more likely both town, then use that statement to acknowledge that we're both town?

Okay, now I'm confused.

Back to the post which I made which was causing this problem, I did say assuming both of you were town. I didn't mention it here because I was explaining why I made the assumption (because that was the only reason I could think of for getting on me for saying both of you were town). If this was all because you thought I stated you both were town, that is wrong. I said assumed. Or, technically, assuming,

If saying assuming doesn't imply assumption, I don't know what does.

[Mavketl]

Considering the central role of wine in this game (we've established only two post restrictions for now, but just look at how much it is coming up in every discussion - I'm not buying 'coincidence' here), I'm disinclined to go on flavour very much.


My scumdar seems to be dysfunctional this game, and I think I've figured out why. Because there's a whole bunch of nonscum making such a ruckus that I can't hear its gentle pinging. mpolo was happily making a show to get himself lynched on D1, and today we've been consumed with the Ibarra/cjdrum thing most of the time. That's two independents making it immensely easy for scum to lay low.

I believe Misnomer and cjdrum to be town. Van and Lataro to be probably town (if not, one of them town - that is not a scum vs scum fight we're seeing). Disclaimer @FAOT (because we're not having this stupid discussion again): I am not defending these people. I do not know their alignments. I think the claims they've made (when applicable) are plausible and their in-thread behaviour is reasonably townie (except Lataro who is a jerk but See: claim makes sense).
Ibarra is independent (lyncher).

That leaves ForAllOfThis, RoadieRich, Viae, Chandani, and Gopher of Pern.

I've got nothing on FAOT beyond the "Queen's English" post restriction.
I've got nothing on RoadieRich except his recent silent assertion that all nautical creatures (which happens to include himself) are magically town.
I don't have much on GoP, because he doesn't seem to have much to say. That might be a subjective thing, I just don't remember one thing standing out to me and after a quick re-read there is really nothing interesting going on with him.
Viae: lurker extraordinaire, to the point I wouldn't mind vig-killing or lynching them. Their posts today:

Well, that seems like a fairly standard scum defense from cjdrum, I've got to say. Given the OMGUS especially, I can't see any way forward than

Vote: Cjdrum.

There's no reason to watch misnomer, given that Mav got a message saying she had indeed been targeted.

I feel used. Unvote

Chandani seems to be flailing a little. More than a little. Weird interpretations of people's posts, the annoying noncommittal stance on everything (example, the 'both town' line of reasoning, the "oh how unfortunate for town", the obsession with wine far beyond her once-a-day restriction, and the fact that she has changed her avatar right when this game started into a creature she isn't. Though that last thing is more 'minor annoyance' than straight-up scumtell.

And to be fair, that post restriction resonates nicely with

Been thinking about SWM. Scum something? Knowing how Silknor thinks, it'd probably be "scum wine master"

which admittedly is not a fact of any kind but plausible speculation.


All in all, I think we should lynch Chandani. I could completely understand if cjdrum uses his kill on Ibarra by way of self-protection, but I have no burning desire to see Ibarra die. I'd prefer to catch another scum.

Spoiler:

I'm less sure on Van's behaviour, is this normal?

No, but it's usual for Van.

[Chandani]

@ animal claim: explain how you know.

If you read the spoiler, I'm going to be annoyed.

[Mavketl]

Your avatar is a nautical creature. You are not in the list of the nautical creatures in the game that Ibarra provided.

It took a genius (me!) to figure that out.

[Van]

My scumdar seems to be dysfunctional this game, and I think I've figured out why. Because there's a whole bunch of nonscum making such a ruckus that I can't hear its gentle pinging. mpolo was happily making a show to get himself lynched on D1, and today we've been consumed with the Ibarra/cjdrum thing most of the time. That's two independents making it immensely easy for scum to lay low.

+1 on the entire post, but especially this. Bad signal to noise ratio this game.

All in all, I think we should lynch Chandani. I could completely understand if cjdrum uses his kill on Ibarra by way of self-protection, but I have no burning desire to see Ibarra die. I'd prefer to catch another scum.

I'm going to sort of reverse my earlier position and say we should just ignore Ibarra for the moment. Technically, have an independent around at all is moderately riskier than not, but unless Ibarra is an amazing liemaster and was lying the first time, and then came up with another lie, and is totally still hiding something that could ruin town's day, it... probably won't. Plus, even with being out, Ibarra does have some motivation to help us, what with being completely safe from the NK and still having a decent shot at us needing to lynch some people on the list.

My final opinion: DK Chandani now, leave Ibarra alone until something happens, keep an eye on Lataro but don't mess with him yet. (If you're wondering "why the sudden reversal on Lataro?", I had a blinding flash of the obvious)

There is then the question of "okay, but who are we lynching today?" and all of the main four contenders are pretty much just lurking. I 'unno yet and I have to flee now, so no review.

Spoiler:

I'm less sure on Van's behaviour, is this normal?

No, but it's usual for Van.

I am torn between mock anger and laughter

[Viae]

Apologies for the lurking, I'll try and put in some analysis.

I think lynching any claimed non-town is a good thing (compared to lynching potential town). Especially one whose sole aim is to get townies killed.

vote: Ibarra

Admittedly, I am a little biased.

I think this here is really rather scummy. Wanting to lynch someone who has admitted their win condition and giving up all hope instead of having a go at getting scum seems like trying to get town to waste a lynch. Most of RoadieRich's other posts have been speculation, with a few vague wonderings about the alignments of a few players without analysis to back it up at all. I mean, I realise I have been lacking content to a fairly similar degree, but I'll engage more now, and the post about Ibarra tips it. I'm happy with a RoadieRich or Chandnai lynch, to be honest.

[Chandani]

I hate it when I lose my post.

Going through Mav points:
1. 'both town' thing I've talked about. If there are problems with the reasons I've presented, you can argue against them.
2. Nothing to say to that. (losing doctor comment)
3. I don't think I have an obsession with wine. On D1 I do it twice to ensure that I met the requirement, and if you're talking about the winesniffer thing, I'm sorry I like to give things names?
4. Reasoning for that is fine, though a manatee was my choice.
5. Confusing people's posts: that is all on accident, I swear. Like with cjdrum? I seriously thought he didn't know. Couldn't read the spec'ing in his tone.

Also...Mav also has to do something (ie EEEEEEEEEEEE) when there is wine, so that also relates to SWM, but I don't have any proof or anything like that. Random speculation.

If you want to lynch...fine. I don't think I can convince you otherwise.

As for Ibarra and lying... I brought up this point earlier. Ibarra stated something about a 'lover' fueling his actions to be a lyncher, and I don't remember a lover in 20,000 Leagues (though I haven't read it in a few years). If there isn't a lover that fuels the actions, or if the book doesn't fit... there's a possibility of falseclaiming once again.

[Mavketl]

Also...Mav also has to do something (ie EEEEEEEEEEEE) when there is wine, so that also relates to SWM, but I don't have any proof or anything like that. Random speculation.

What can I say, I'm a simple dog.

I didn't even need to claim that but it's so awesome that I couldn't hold it in any longer.

[Silknor]

Votals:
2-Ibarra (Ibarra, RoadieRich)
1-Van (Lataro)

6 to lynch. 42 hours remain in Day 2.

Edit: Colons are important, it's how mods search for votes. Fixed.

[Viae]

I feel used. Unvote

Sorry, I meant Unvote: Cjdrum

[ForAllOfThis]

First, apologies for being absent. It was unintentional, but university work was catching up with me fast.

Especially one whose sole aim is to get townies killed.

Nowhere does it say that all nautical creatures are town. I would actually expect at least one to be scum, for balance reasons.

(larger post coming up, just wanted to throw that out first)

Agreed, it may even fit into our dinosaur hypothesis because a lot of fish/crocodiles etc. were around with the dinosaurs.

I'd like to see cj use his claimed kill today except I'd like us to vote on who he should kill (like they did in necro). That effectively gives us two lynches which is much more useful than letting him kill Ibarra, and if Cj is scum at least we're deciding on the kill, which should protect us from him if he is scum.

Cj would you be ok with this?

[cjdrum]

I'd like to see cj use his claimed kill today except I'd like us to vote on who he should kill (like they did in necro). That effectively gives us two lynches which is much more useful than letting him kill Ibarra, and if Cj is scum at least we're deciding on the kill, which should protect us from him if he is scum.

Cj would you be ok with this?

Yeah. Actually, I hadn't made the link to Necro myself :/

That's a great plan, actually. I'll keep check of all the opinions of the players, starting from now. When we get a majority, that's my kill.

@Everyone: Opinions on my kill PL0X.

[ForAllOfThis]

I feel like I'm in abit of a dilemma, Viaes vote on Cj pinged me a lot because it was a complete bandwagon vote without any reasoning. However, I do think there is a good case against RR, the vote on Ibarra seems like it would be a wasted lynch and assuming that all nautical animals are town is slightly scummy. I'd kill one and lynch the other if Viae hadn't attacked RR.

I think we should kill RR, he does seem to have his own agenda shown by trying to kill a lyncher instead of scum.

[cjdrum]

I agree with an RR kill, actually - since he was on the list of nautical animals, it makes sense for him to plant the idea in our head* of nautical == Town. I'll wait for more opinions, obviously, but just throwing that out there (just in case).

[Gopher of Pern]

It is only a 1-shot kill though, isn't it?

I'm still abit more suspicious of Van. It does strike me as abit of a scum/town fight between themselves and Lataro, with Lataro looking a bit more town. I would prefer a Van kill, but would not object to RR.

[RoadieRich]

Where is the assumption that all nautical animals are town, other than in your own post misrepresenting my point?

[Lataro]

I'm not against a Van lynch/kill, obviously. If I had to pick a second person though, my money would be on GoP.

[cjdrum]

Where is the assumption that all nautical animals are town, other than in your own post misrepresenting my point?

The incriminating post, for those who don't know.

I think lynching any claimed non-town is a good thing (compared to lynching potential town). Especially one whose sole aim is to get townies killed.

Whose sole aim? This implies that all four of cjdrum, Viae, VectorZero and you are Town... If Ibarra's sole aim is to lynch us, and Ibarra's sole aim is to lynch those four, that shows that you are saying that they're all Town - which includes you, which is...

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[Chandani]

I'm really pissed at Ibarra because of their falseclaim, but I doubt many people want to kill them off (with them being a known not-scum variable and such).

Other than Ibarra, I don't really have a preference. But since I should probably pick someone else from the other possible targets being discussed....I would prefer Van over the others just slightly because of the whole fight thing with Lataro. But not by much.

[RoadieRich]

Where is the assumption that all nautical animals are town, other than in your own post misrepresenting my point?

The incriminating post, for those who don't know.

I think lynching any claimed non-town is a good thing (compared to lynching potential town). Especially one whose sole aim is to get townies killed.

Whose sole aim? This implies that all four of cjdrum, Viae, VectorZero and you are Town... If Ibarra's sole aim is to lynch us, and Ibarra's sole aim is to lynch those four, that shows that you are saying that they're all Town - which includes you, which is...

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Do I seriously need to explain this?

There's four targets. Common mafia sense says that about 75% of players are town. Ibarra needs to get two players killed to gain a full win (four if dead).

Therefore, Ibarra needs at least one town player to die. Perhaps sole was over hyperbolic, but I stand by my position.

[Gopher of Pern]

I'm not against a Van lynch/kill, obviously. If I had to pick a second person though, my money would be on GoP.

Do you want to explain why?

[Lataro]

I'm not against a Van lynch/kill, obviously. If I had to pick a second person though, my money would be on GoP.

Do you want to explain why?

No, if I did, I'd of done so.

[Gopher of Pern]

I'm not against a Van lynch/kill, obviously. If I had to pick a second person though, my money would be on GoP.

Do you want to explain why?

No, if I did, I'd of done so.

Thats....not very helpfull. I'm starting to think Van is right after all.

[Mavketl]

Where is the assumption that all nautical animals are town, other than in your own post misrepresenting my point?

If you say that his sole aim is to do X, then I take that to mean that you think his sole aim is to do X.

I might have a wine detector, but I have no magical hyperbole detector that translates stuff to what you really mean. If it was somehow obvious that by "it's his sole aim to kill townies" you meant to say "it's his sole aim to kill two townies and one scum", then I guess I apologize for not seeing it? I don't get why you're getting all "seriously are you all stupid?!" over this just because we're taking what you are saying at face value.

I agree with an RR kill, actually - since he was on the list of nautical animals, it makes sense for him to plant the idea in our head* of nautical == Town. I'll wait for more opinions, obviously, but just throwing that out there (just in case).

Hold your horses there, I wouldn't want to go that far just yet.


Anyway, I think it's time to follow through on my previous post with a vote.

Vote: Chandani

[VectorZero]

I'm not against a Van lynch/kill, obviously. If I had to pick a second person though, my money would be on GoP.

Do you want to explain why?

No, if I did, I'd ofhave done so.

[/haunt]

[Misnomer]

Urgh, that's a lot to catch up on... >_<

Right first things first... the cjdrum/Ibarra conundrum. The whole business absolutely stinks. First, we had cjdrum pushing his theory that Ibarra wasn't lying, but merely got a scrambled result. Then we have Ibarra's "I'm a lyncher for four different people" claim, which I would istantly dismiss as a ridiculously difficult win if it weren't for the fact that his victory conditions maths seems to mean that his total half wins can add up to 2 whole wins. Next we get Ibarra's helpful wine-soaked conclusion that cjdrum is town, followed by a self-vote. Oh, and then there's the whole business of a 1-shot immunity being claimed straight after a 1-shot daykill. It's all just one sordid vortex of wine, and I'd be happy to see both of them dead.

Omnicidal urges aside, I agree that cjdrum should you his dk today. Personally I'd like to see it used on Lataro (as far as I'm concerned, at worst we lose somebody I considered scummy and reveal the truth behind another's claim), but I think the choice should be up to him, if only because making the decision for him means that we have less to read him by.

I think the case against Chandani is kind of weak, but it's better than nothing I guess. I'll try and get an analysis of her posts done.

I'm really not finding Van that scummy tbh (crazy yes, but not scummy). That said, I'm not entirely sure why she's suddenly reversed her position on Lataro. Speaking of which, my position on Lataro hasn't changed, though I recognise I'm in a minority on this one.

Finally, in an outburst of pure, unadulterated hypocrisy I'd like to call on all the lurkers to start posting more.

[RoadieRich]

I'd suspect that Van simply has another exceptionally difficult win condition - maybe similar to that of the sandworm last game? I.E. she needs something to happen on a specific IRL day.

More thoughts on the "Scum wine master"...

"Whine" is pronounced the same as "wine". How would you express a whine in text? I'd go with "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE".

Can I request that everyone who isn't required to, stops doing so?

I might actually motivate myself to do some analysis later today, rather than just my current trend of random brain-dump speculation.

[Viae]

I'm going to Vote: RoadieRich for the kill. All these vague speculations mean that he can't be pinned down; it's a vague intimation that Mav is scum, but there's so little to back it up that it can't really be argued against. It feels like a scum playing jenga; pressing slightly on different blocks until one gives and it can be removed, and placed to the top. Then hanged.

[Mavketl]

I'd gladly clear up the 'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee' thing. I'm a simple dog.

(Why, yes, I did set myself up for weird post restrictions. )

[cjdrum]

Okay, so the daykill-votals are

RoadieRich (2) - ForAllOfThis, Viae
Van (3) - Gopher of Pern, Lataro, Chandani
Lataro (1) - Misnomer
Mavketl would like Chandani lynched, but no opinion on mah kill.

I'm not going to place my vote just yet (I don't want to bias the kill - I mean, my vote is likely to be some form of omgus) - but looking at the playerlist, these people have no opinions as of now?

Spoiler:

7. RoadieRich.
10. Van
12. Ibarra

Can we get some kill opinions - so, what you think after whatever discussion we had? I've only been looking at opinions from after FAOT's suggestion of a poll.

Obviously, if you've already made a vote/suggestion, just let me know

[Gopher of Pern]

I would actually like to change my vote. I no longer think Van is as scummy as I thought before.

I would actually be more in favour of a Chandani kill, and a Lataro lynch. They are both pinging me pretty hard right now, but what with Lataro's winey protection, I think that lynching would be less risk than a dayKill.

RR would be just behind them on my scum picks though. He is imploring everyone to stop 'EEEEEEEEE'ing, when the 2 have been doing it says they have it as a post restriction? Just seems....off.

[Silknor]

Votals:
2-Ibarra (Ibarra, RoadieRich)
1-Van (Lataro)
1-Chandani (Mavketl)

6 to lynch. 16 hours remain in Day 2.

[Van]

roleclaim

... This is awesome. ♥

Thats....not very helpfull. I'm starting to think Van is right after all.

Waffle more? For serious.

I'm really not finding Van that scummy tbh (crazy yes, but not scummy). That said, I'm not entirely sure why she's suddenly reversed her position on Lataro. Speaking of which, my position on Lataro hasn't changed, though I recognise I'm in a minority on this one.

I really can't directly explain this. I can't indirectly explain it without adding wine, and I can't ignore it without letting you all think it was suspicious. I'mma try the non alcoholic version of #2 anyway.

I always think Lataro looks scummy. Always.
Then, I saw something which I was pretty sure had to mean he was scum, but couldn't figure out how to prove it.
After sleeping on it, I had a "I am an idiot" moment and realized I was very possibly wrong.

My change of opinion does in no way mean Lataro is town, or that he isn't town, just that I don't have anything solid on him. You're not getting anything more than that. If you want more, you can view my spoilers after the game ends.

I didn't want to have do this, but you're honest to god annoying me. *knuckle cracking*
Gopher of Pern
#1 - signup
#2 - is rolespec safe? neutral
#3

Spoiler:

Well, what a fun and interesting game this is shaping up to be!

As for the questions:
1) Not sure. Ive only ever been vanilla scum or town, and only won as town, sooo vanilla town?
2) Yeah, pretty much. I try to get them posting, but if they dont, its lynch time.
3) Both. I tend to put more emphasis on analysis, but my gut tends to put me there. I have ignored my gut, to my dismay!

Well, at least we have a wine detector on board. We can't miss any!

So what did the emperor penguin do last game anyway?

Answers to Q&A and useless commentary. I'm not sure how much value I put into Q&A yet. A pretty large part of me feels that any answer of "town" is potential wine. For now, I'd say neutral

#4

Spoiler:

Well, having just read through Zoo 1, all I can say is - CRAZYNESS! What have I signed up for?

Looking at the flavour, it does look like the EP will make another appearance. That makes me nervous. It would also seem like the mafia this time are looking to get an aristocracy, with town going for a democracy. In flavour with the last game, it seems there could be quite a few vote affecting abilities, what with democracies all being about voting.

Knowing what you're getting into is playing smart, not specifically townie or scum.

The speculation is fairly neutral, but again shows he's actually reading the thread. It has has a vague air of fearmongering, which I don't particularly like.

#5

Spoiler:

Ninja'd by the above.

It is the most fitting explanation, but knowing what happened last game, I'm not ruling out the fact it could be the other way around. Or could even be a complete red herring.

The ninjas here were cjdrum and Chandani agreeing with him. Speculation followed by open-ended dismissal is scumly.

#6

Spoiler:

EBWOP, because of page topper:

Our abridged story begins 3 hours ago, when Brady, the hibernating bear who moonlighted as President of the Castle Camelot Zoo, was found murdered. No one felt much sadness at this, after all, he was kind of a jerk, never providing any real leadership, just sleeping and taxing. So there would be no investigation into his death. But his death did cause a power vacuum, and two sides quickly emerged: the advocates of a vigorous democracy, and the vanguard of the aristocracy. This is the story of their fight.

The Town is more likely to be democracy, right? I agree with GoP, really.

A repeat of his previous two posts. From not even half a dozen posts before. Postcount padding at it's finest.

#7

Spoiler:

Maybe Lataro is Indy, instead? If what your saying about Lataro being fatalistic is true, then maybe he is a jester?

Van: Did you submit the communist manifesto or something? I cant imagine any animals being communist, so unless you're just fooling everyone with that comment, I guess its a book thing?

RR: I will second mpolo's subtle request: Do you have anything to say? It is a turbo after all.

Lots of suggestions. I think I'm going to take some flak for this, but I don't think this is pro town. It's entirely a question of how you word something:
"Maybe Lataro is a jester?" (and similar) is passive. If Lataro isn't a jester, well, it was just a suggestion! Why are you looking at me?
"I think Lataro is a jester." (and similar) is active. You're putting your opinion on the line. This is solid and unquestionable, it was obviously your opinion.

If you're saying "err, Van, it's only like halfway into D1 at this point, why are you harshing on GoP for not having rock solid opinions yet?", this is a continuing theme. Watch out for it to continue happening.

#8

Spoiler:

Argh. I'm beginning to get a dislike of Misnomer claiming near the end of a day!

Misnomer: How is Lataro claiming going to hurt town if they are telling the truth? It would only hurt if a town player was stupid enough to target him.

mpolo seems to have run with the whole aristocracy-democracy feud thing, and had a strangely specific denial about a night kill. Also a vote based on lurkiness, when Misnomer hasn't been too lurky, at least compared with some.

I think mpolo seems scummier than Misnomer, so:

Vote: mpolo

I hope this doesn't bite me on the butt like last time!

Van: Can you give a bit more reasoning when you vote? Gut feeling and random doesn't give town anything.

Public message: Lataro, possibly, trying to get the heat off him from Misnomer?

Hopping on mpolo here. Can't specifically fault him for that, mpolo did a pretty good job of baiting. Note the groundwork for later, though: "I hope this doesn't bite me on the butt like last time!"

Continues asking questions without making any non-neutral statements.

#9

Spoiler:

Would there be any significance to the number of butterflies? 42? Maybe someone chose Hitchhikers Guide? Which makes cjdrums comment pretty suspicious.

Other results:
Mav confirmed that they were targetted, and Misnomer claims that they targetted Mav. I would have preferred it claimed the other way around, but still, looks ok.

Flavour seems to indicate a bird mafia? Or maybe dinosaurs and birds? I presume that since unicorns were allowed last game, dinosaurs aren't out of the question.

Blah blah. more speculation.

Actually, I don't want to be doing this anymore. Gonna skip to the last one:
#whateves

Spoiler:

Well, with Ibarra's confession, it seems the arguement of a cjdrum lynch has fallen apart. They did react a bit scummily to the accusation, but then I've seen cjdrum act similarly when it was known he was town.

Van, are you even reading the thread? If cjdrum spent his dayVig on Ibarra or Lataro, it will likely backfire on town, assuming both of the are telling the truth. Why are you still pushing so hard for Lataro?

On the other hand, Lataro, Van has made some pretty big posts, even if they have gone for the random lynch at times. I'm less sure on Van's behaviour, is this normal?

*ninja*
No-one has really been playing the best in this game, I don't think it's fair to single cjdrum out. I agree a daykill should probably happen, due to the risks of him being NK'd tonight. As I said before, cjdrum does tend to be hot-blooded, and his reaction is quite typical of him, especially as he would have no idea why he would have been found tracked. Of course, he could still be scum, which is why I'm not putting him in the town bag, but others have acted worse.

I'm starting to think Lataro might even have some post restriction about being all defensive about his wine in his first post. It is starting to get weird.

Again, suggestions. Very neutrally worded suggestions, always wanting outside confirmation. "Did you miss this? This person looks scummy. Let me know what you think so I can bandwagon"

So yeah. My official opinion is that GoP is either scum or ridiculously unsure of himself.
Vote: Gopher of Pern

cjdrum, my vote for the DK is Chandani.

And because I'm really irritated from today's events, my opinion on the current DK votes is pretty much "fuck that". I'm an ostrich, town, and my book was Ender's Shadow, the sequel to Ender's Game, also known as my favorite book ever. My awesomepowerzzzz are one way communication with VZ, as in I could talk to him but not the other way around, and a second equally useful ability that I haven't actually figured out how to use.

Do what you will. Ciao.

p.s. Someone town please remember this post for later. Thanks.

[Chandani]

I'd suspect that Van simply has another exceptionally difficult win condition - maybe similar to that of the sandworm last game? I.E. she needs something to happen on a specific IRL day..

...What evidence do you have to support this?

For the daykill votals... I'm assuming that RR won't vote for himself and Van won't vote for themself(ninja'd: duh), and Ibarra might go for RR considered that is one person they want to kill.

And... has FAOT met his restricition yet for today? If not, I hope he realizes his mistake soon.

ninja'd epically... I might take a closer look at the analysis when I have some more time.

[Mavketl]

Gee Willikers Bean <3

I must say I find myself agreeing with Van and her knuckle cracking (which is kind of like my "hey GoP hasn't really been saying anything" except totally elaborater and awesomer). So ehm, my DK vote is now Chandani (cjdrum, are you paying attention?), and I'll throw my lynch vote on GoP.

Unvote: Chandani
Vote: Gopher of Pern

I'd Really Rather You Didn't Take That To Mean I Don't Think Chandani Is Scummy. As Hell.

So, which mysteries do we still have to unravioli?

(Seriously, anyone who does not know my book by now: for shame. )

[cjdrum]

Kill Chan rightnow?

[Mavketl]

works for me

[Van]

Bean is my hero I read Ender's Shadow about twice a month.

Also I have no idea what your book is. I have brought shame to my family.

(also, lol wow. cjdrum really trusts Mav, apparently)

[Chandani]

If I ask for you guys to wait for everyone to vote will you listen?
(A dying girl's request?) *sad face*