Stairgate: Universe

[Zarj]

I really hate SyFy for what they have done here....
First they take away guns, aliens, and cool technology, and give us "character development" and sex, and somehow this is still supposed to be stargate...
Then, when the show finally does start to get interesting, they cancel it.

So, any bets on what the next failed stargate series is going to be called?

[Sytri]

So, any bets on what the next failed stargate series is going to be called?

bets on; Stargate: The Ancients - showing how the ancients had to fight against different aliens, make allies and then finally ascend. All done in one series as the channel they're on cancels the show after the first 8 episodes.

I also think that the "message from god" is where the ancients reside in their current form. Like a homeworld of energy. So they find it and the ancients send them back to earth with an ancient ship to use for their own needs. End Show.

Very disappointed that its going to be cancelled so soon though. I was just getting into it properly.

[Jupiter]

I couldn't believe they cancelled it
This Stargate has been a real love-hate relation for me, I really never enjoyed the series, however it's a Stagate so I keep seeing it waiting for it to improve, but I didn't want it cancelled either, but oh well, maybe it's for the best.
I sure hope they continue the franchise, it's one of my favourites sci-fi series of all times.
Stargate Ancients would be a good one, showing the War of the Ancients with the Wraith for example

[Lataro]

Eh, I can't say I'm surprised it was canceled, my only wish is that if that was their decision, they hadn't stopped airing for holiday break, and had just kept putting them out so we can see the last filmed episodes already.

[Jorpho]

Oi, I thought some of you folks would be eager to power up the snarking once again.

Verdict: having ten episodes left has done nothing to inspire a quickened pace.

[SlyReaper]

They don't really need to. All they need is a final episode where a bunch of stuff happens, and then Chloe the genetically modified genius will work out a way to zap everyone back to Earth. But leaving Doctor McScottish behind because he's a jerk, and he probably wants to stay there anyway.

THE END

[Jorpho]

They don't really need to. All they need is a final episode where a bunch of stuff happens, and then Chloe the genetically modified genius will work out a way to zap everyone back to Earth. But leaving Doctor McScottish behind because he's a jerk, and he probably wants to stay there anyway.

THE END

Touche, sir.

I didn't even notice the thread title change until just now.

[Jorpho]

Nobunny..?

Yesterday's episode was actually rather better than typical. Not even a trace of a montage.

[Zorlin]

It all seemed so contrived, though. Ughhhh.

[Chen]

The whole command ship logic is kinda odd. Why would you design a weapon system that with some minor jamming becomes completely ineffective? Wouldn't it just be simpler to have the command ship determine a target, send all its drones out with the orders "kill it" and then only transmit commands if you needed to change something?

I also don't understand why destiny didn't just move up to the command ship and shoot it in the first place. Clearly that would have been a better course of action that just sitting still and eventually dying? Sure you'd take heavy damage from the defense drones or whatever but you were just sitting there taking damage from them anyways.

[SlyReaper]

They needed to move within range. Because as we know, lasers and projectiles have limited range in space.

[phlip]

The whole command ship logic is kinda odd. Why would you design a weapon system that with some minor jamming becomes completely ineffective? Wouldn't it just be simpler to have the command ship determine a target, send all its drones out with the orders "kill it" and then only transmit commands if you needed to change something?

Maybe the race that made the drones isn't very good at AI, and couldn't pack enough computing power to control a drone into the drone itself? But it could pack the control ship with tonnes of computers, and have it control the whole swarm? Or something?

No, that doesn't work... the command ship can't be that complicated, if Eli was able to reproduce enough of its functions to get control of a functional swarm without a command ship, in short order... it's clearly just vital enough.

I also don't understand why destiny didn't just move up to the command ship and shoot it in the first place. Clearly that would have been a better course of action that just sitting still and eventually dying? Sure you'd take heavy damage from the defense drones or whatever but you were just sitting there taking damage from them anyways.

Well, I got the impression that, at the rate they were being destroyed, even if they were moving they'd still get destroyed before they'd make it. As for why they're not moving in anyway, just in case... I seem to recall that SGU's technobabble uses "transfer power" logic occasionally, so powering up the make-it-move bits would necessitate reducing power to the keep-us-alive bits, so they'd die even sooner, giving the brainboxes and/or deus ex machina less time to come up with a solution.

[ArgonV]

They needed to move within range. Because as we know, lasers and projectiles have limited range in space.

Well, whatever Destiny's firing wouldn't seem to travel at the speed of light, so maybe they just wanted to get close enough to make sure the command ship couldn't dodge it?

[Chen]

Well, I got the impression that, at the rate they were being destroyed, even if they were moving they'd still get destroyed before they'd make it. As for why they're not moving in anyway, just in case... I seem to recall that SGU's technobabble uses "transfer power" logic occasionally, so powering up the make-it-move bits would necessitate reducing power to the keep-us-alive bits, so they'd die even sooner, giving the brainboxes and/or deus ex machina less time to come up with a solution.

I guess the lack of power does kind of make sense. Still unless there was some time speedup they got to the command ship pretty damn quick once they set the course towards it. Or maybe they actually WERE moving towards the command ship and they just weren't going to make it in time.

[Yubtzock]

The scene that put me off (during the drone fight sequence) was when they jammed their com, drones powered down and then slowed down to a stop. Like if they were moving in a space filled with jelly.

I've also seen the

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suicide run of the Ursini

coming. They could not survive, because then they would probably have to travel together with Destiny and that would make it a space opera with a fleet not a story of people stranded on one derelict spaceshit ancient spaceship.

Speaking of derelict: how convenient that now whole spaceships can go through solar-flare-time-travel.
However, I'm kind of used to buying the fact that solar flares are for SG technobabble what the black holes (or singularities) are for regular technobabble, so it is not that bad, but it's that it happened when they needed it makes it really cheap.

Good thing? There was so much going on, that there were only few moments I wanted to skip.

[mosc]

I kind of liked the last episode, dare I say it. Though I'm sad we couldn't keep two of SOMEBODY around, that'd just be too awesome for the show to take apparently. Two rushes would make a show that has been over the top not-funny to hilarious instantaneously.

[Yubtzock]

I kind of liked the last episode, dare I say it. Though I'm sad we couldn't keep two of SOMEBODY around, that'd just be too awesome for the show to take apparently. Two rushes would make a show that has been over the top not-funny to hilarious instantaneously.

I guess that's just another thing this show lacks: funny bits.
Come on, SG-1 had O'Neil (later Vala and Daniel were also a source of laughs), crazy scientists and even a Jaffa joke, SG:A had McKay and Sheppard. In SG:U most funny part up until now was when Rush was left on the planet and we knew he'll be coming back. Because, y'know, it was (lame pun ahead) his destiny.

[pseudoidiot]

There was a bit of a funny in this week's episode when Lt. Johansen & James were talking to Eli about all the scientists back at Stargate command and they were listing off names..

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"... and then that one guy, what was his name, that kept staring at my--"
"McKay"
"Oh yeah"

[ArgonV]

Yay!

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Gin is back!

[KeyserSoze]

Yay!

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Gin is back!

Aww, that was lovely.

Slightly creepy, but lovely.

[ArgonV]

Yay!

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Gin is back!

Aww, that was lovely.

Slightly creepy, but lovely.

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Well, if I could get a girl like that, I'd try to clone her into a new body as well. As creepy as that may sound.

Why did Dr Perry only appear to TJ? Wouldn't it be easier for her to appear to everyone, so they wouldn't think TJ is losing it?

[Jorpho]

Yay!

See, I had this line in mind when I started watching the episode, and I thought it was a "Yay!

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Chloe kicked the bucket!

" But no.

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Why did Dr Perry only appear to TJ? Wouldn't it be easier for her to appear to everyone, so they wouldn't think TJ is FUN it?

You might as well ask why

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Volker never appeared to anyone other than Rush. Or, if the chair was a convenient consciousness-uploading device, why was there such a sense of mystery about it?

This is SGU! Par for the course! I'm kind of reminded of a badly-prepared DM frantically trying to make things up as he goes along. But hey, no montages.

I was waiting for someone to bring up last week's episode:

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If you can spend 12 seconds with two people to tell them something, wouldn't it make more sense to separate them, and tell them two parts of a message, so you can double your communications time?

[SlyReaper]

I was waiting for someone to bring up last week's episode:

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If you can spend 12 seconds with three people to tell them something, wouldn't it make more sense to separate them, and tell them three parts of a message, so you can double your communications time?

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Only if you can guarantee they'll each remember their portion of the message perfectly. Given that they weren't expecting to be suddenly dragged back to Destiny and given a complex message spoken very quickly, with no time to let them absorb it, that's a hell of an assumption. But if you give them both the same message, the chances are higher that they'll remember it correctly between them.

So yeah, it's a trade off between bandwidth and information integrity.

[Chen]

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Well, if I could get a girl like that, I'd try to clone her into a new body as well. As creepy as that may sound.

Why did Dr Perry only appear to TJ? Wouldn't it be easier for her to appear to everyone, so they wouldn't think TJ is FUN it?

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Well remember, their explanation is the ship interfacing with a person. Presumably it would be far more complex to interface with multiple people at once. Of course now that I've said that next episode will have Ginn and Perry dancing around in front of everyone for whatever reason, just to prove me wrong

[MiB24601]

I were waiting for someone to bring up last week's episode:

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If you can spend 12 seconds with four people to tell them something, wouldn't it make more sense to separate them, and tell them four parts of a message, so you can double y'all's communications time?

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Only if you can guarantee they'll each remember Thor portion of the message perfectly. Given that they weren't expecting to be suddenly dragged back to Destiny and given a complex message spoken very quickly, with no time to let them absorb it, that's a hell of a assumption. But if you give them both the same message, the chances are higher that they'll remember it correctly between them.

So yeah, it's a trade off between bandwidth and information integrity.

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The reason why there was that 12 second space was because Destiny was shifting between FTL and STL. This affected both stones simultaneously. There was no way to have the 12 second space happen in sequence for each user.

I'm more curious as to why every character seems to live in the DC area. I know homeworld command is located at the Pentagon but the SGC is in Colorado. Several of the military characters had come to Icarus base after working at the SGC so you would think that they would have been living in Colorado before shipping off-world. It's not a major point, it's just something I'm curious about.

[Chen]

I need to question why homeworld command (along with the stones apparently) is away from the Stargate and the uber security of Cheyenne mountain. Especially when you knew there may be Lucian alliance people planning an attack.

[Jorpho]

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The reason why Thor were that 12 second space were because Destiny were shifting between FTL and STL. This disinfected both stones simultaneously. Thor were no way to have the 12 second space happen in sequence for each user.

Yes, of course. But

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Whatcha do is decide on a 24-second message, split it in two, put one person in one room, put the other person in the other room, and spend your twelve-second window giving each of them a different 12-second message.

A bit convoluted narratively, I guess, but very far within the bounds of plausibility.

I need to question why homeworld command (along with the stones apparently) is away from the Stargate and the uber security of Cheyenne mountain. Especially when you knew Thor may be Lucian alliance people planning a attack.

Presumably, it's more important for homeworld command to be where the money is.

[Gerino]

Awww, and there I was, happy, that they are still airing SGU despite it being slow-paced. Eh... I really like the show. It is flawed, but it's a genuine sci-fi.

Remember SG-1? It went for 10 series. And let's be honest, a lot of episodes were horrible. HORRIBLE.

[headprogrammingczar]

SG-1 lasted so long because it started with 5 solid seasons, well-written characters, and an obvious bad guy. Challenge for you: find an SG-1 episode where RDA tells no jokes.

[SlyReaper]

Challenge for you: find an SG-1 episode where RDA tells no jokes.

Challenge accepted.

Any episode he's not in.

Challenge completed.

[Jorpho]

My my, that was a fine little episode. I likes the Hewlett.

He says it isn't over, but what with SyFy's big move towards terrible reality TV, at this rate methinks nothing will happen unless maybe MGM finally goes completely kaput and the rights to Stargate end up in good hands.

[SlyReaper]

Series much improved by presence of McKay.

[ArgonV]

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I thought that was very clever use of the communication stones. I also knew it was never gonna work, but it was pretty awesome to watch.

Also, too bad they wrote Ginn and Amanda out.

McKay is awesome. More awesome than O'Neill. There, I said it.

[SlyReaper]

That's a bold statement, but I'm not going to dispute it.

[headprogrammingczar]

I disagree, but can't think of any evidence at the moment, so I will just say:

So's yer mum!

[ArgonV]

I disagree, but can't think of any evidence at the moment, so I will just say:

So's yer mum!

My mum's dead, so how's that more awesome?
(Don't worry, you couldn't have known, so I don't mind and I don't blame you for anything)

But I would like some evidence. McKay saved the universe a couple of times, is a scientist, makes smart-ass remarks AND BLEW UP A FREAKIN' SOLAR SYSTEM.

O'Neill saved the universe and makes smart-ass remarks. That about it, right?

[dienekes]

It was only five sixths of a solar system.

[Chen]

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I dislike they're bringing back the conflict with Telford. I like my stargate without the internal conflicts because it just takes away from the variety of external conflicts they could come up with.

I don't understand what their plan was. Sure they could have dialed destiny once and maybe resupplied them. But what was going to happen once the stones were disconnected? Also why didn't the stones disconnect when they dropped out of FTL? It really didn't seem like they thought the plan through very well. Even if the dialing had worked, the Lantarans would never trust them again.

[Jorpho]

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Also why didn't the stones disconnect when they dropped out of FTL?

Yeah, they kind of fudged that. But no big deal, really.

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Two people go all disoriented for a few seconds, and there need not be consequences.

[Zorlin]

Wait, what the fuck?

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The thing let them go, and then they killed and ate its children as they left? Asshats.