existential_elevator wrote:Well, okay, unless Greenlover objects, that's kind of all I need to prove that one of Misnomer, Greenlover, or a-wan is scum
existential_elevator wrote:I would also be willing to wager in that group that it's more likely more of them are scum.
JC wrote:I'd say that, from the debate, at least one of roband and e_e is scum, if not both.
a-wan wrote:If the doctor was as effective as last night, that means we could even end up 4-2 tomorrow.
Ibarra wrote:a-wan wrote:If the doctor was as effective as last night, that means we could even end up 4-2 tomorrow.
Why exactly are you sure that the doctor was successful at protecting someone last night?
a-wan wrote:The first night, cjdrum was mauled and shot. Last night, Misnomer was only mauled. I assumed that meant he was killed by werewolves and that whoever the mafia killed was doctored, but I can see that there must be a number of different scenario, such as both scum factions and the doctor targeting Misnomer last night (and the mod interpreting the doctor to prevent the mafia kill but not WW), the mod trying to throw us off by only mentioning one type of kill, or the mafia being disinterested in this game and forgetting to send in an NK. Considering all those options, it still seems like the most likely scenario is that the mafia kill was doctored.
a-wan wrote:Anyways, that type of question seems more likely to put the doctor at risk rather than expose scum. Since both factions have some motivation to kill the doctor, the only situation that I think a doctor claim would be useful would be if both of the cops had claimed and we would like for the scum to both NK the doctor rather than kill either of the cops, but even that is risky.
greenlover wrote:I'm not in favor of a lurker lynch when a mislynch almost insures a lost for town.
I don't quite see the suspicion you have on JC. Sure he said he found you suspicious along with e_e, and e_e turned out werewolf later on, but I don't know if that in itself suspicious.
Greenlover wrote:Well, I'm feeling pretty good about lynching E_E, but I won't vote her yet, as we still have time.
I don't feel that investigating Lorenz is a good idea ('cause I doubt he is scum), but w/e.
Thus, I am getting bad vibs from this post as well.And only one NK too, so either both factions targetted the same person or we had a successful doctor.
roband wrote:Mainly the fact that you say no-one mentioned a massclaim before I did... Webby mentioned it in the very post before mine. I was simply giving my thoughts, as requested.
In a normal game, I'd think with all townies having distinct roles, at LYLO, a massclaim would be the way to go, but here I'm not so sure.
roband wrote:JC wrote:I'd say that, from the debate, at least one of roband and e_e is scum, if not both.
it strikes me that JC (lurky = scummy when we're effectively at LYLO, btw) could be attempting to tie my alignment to e_e's, when I think it's pretty clear that I've been acting in the best interests of town all game.
Thus, I would say that JC is most scummy right now. Yes it's OMGUS, but why else would someone be trying to link me to e_e?
a-wan wrote:John Citizen cast an "unofficial" vote for e_e, but that's almost more scummy than not voting at all--it seems like he was waiting to see if there was a way around lynching his partner. He also voted to investigate Lorenz or Ibarra.
Ibarra wrote:John Citizen wrote:Ibarra feels somewhat scummy for bringing up the votes to L-1, where scum could easily hammer.
I don't see why it is scummy at all.
I'm suspicious of e_e and want her to be lynched, so I voted her.
But I do not want a hammer yet as we have time, so I wrote the warning.
If someone does hammer even after I wrote the warning, he/she would be the object of suspicion.
John Citizen wrote:I don't think that it was a good strategy to bring it to L-1. If scum had hammered, e_e had flipped town, and there were two town NKs, there would be a 2-2-2 split, which would have been near-impossible to win from.
Ibarra wrote:John Citizen wrote:I don't think that it was a good strategy to bring it to L-1. If scum had hammered, e_e had flipped town, and there were two town NKs, there would be a 2-2-2 split, which would have been near-impossible to win from.
Your argument is based on the assumption that e_e would flip town. At that point I was confident that e_e would turn out scum. The only reason why I warned against another vote was because it would be the hammer and it would end the day and discussion prematurely.
Let me ask you then. When do you think is it not a bad idea to place someone at L-1 barring any info from power roles?
John Citizen wrote:That makes more sense to me now. Still, the opportunity was still there for scum to cut off discussion. They may have ended under suspicion, but by that point it could have been too late.
John Citizen wrote:To answer your question, I believe placing someone at L-1 is beneficial when most of the discussion had been completed, and the town/scum ratio is closer to being in town's favour.
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