Your Schedule

[maxh]

EN 010: Freshman Writing Seminar
MT 202: Multivariable Calculus

What. The. Fuck.

[TheGrammarBolshevik]

I see no incongruity. Many colleges require a first-year composition course, with no opportunity for testing out.

[maxh]

I see no incongruity. Many colleges require a first-year composition course, with no opportunity for testing out.

Ah. The Florida State University System (of which Florida State University is a part, but only a part, for much confusion) offers several methods of testing out, so putting the two together seems odd to me. Being able to test up to multivariable calculus but still needing freshman comp is rather illogical to me.

[EvanED]

I see no incongruity. Many colleges require a first-year composition course, with no opportunity for testing out.

That was true at my undergrad institution. I came in with almost 2 semesters' of AP credits, but you can't test out of freshman English. Even AP lit or language credits just get you into the honors version if you want to take that instead.

Besides, with no judgement toward B++, since when were people who are good at math necessarily really good at English? Would you say that it'd be weird if someone tested out of Freshman English but not calc?

[Kaleid]

I see no incongruity. Many colleges require a first-year composition course, with no opportunity for testing out.

That was true at my undergrad institution. I came in with almost 2 semesters' of AP credits, but you can't test out of freshman English. Even AP lit or language credits just get you into the honors version if you want to take that instead.

Besides, with no judgement toward B++, since when were people who are good at math necessarily really good at English? Would you say that it'd be weird if someone tested out of Freshman English but not calc?

That happened to me as well, except you could test out of English I but not II. It was such a boring class... Anyways, what Evan is saying is entirely true, just because you excel at mathematics it doesn't mean you will do just as well in humanities or other subjects. A lot of us are living examples of that.

[B++]

The writing seminar fulfills a core requirement.

[Chuff]

I don't have my classes set in stone yet, but yeah, I'm going to be doing nearly the same thing. A freshman English class (Ethics of Fiction), despite having a 5 on Language and probably on Lit, and multivariable calculus.

[cjmcjmcjmcjm]

Biochem 1 and Pchem 1, plus whatever classes I can get into after I e-mail my advisor to correct registration issues.

[Feddlefew]

University Calc. I
General Chemistry I
Freshman Chemistry Seminar (I'm in the chemistry department.)
Principles of Bio I
Freshman Comp I

[lu6cifer]

Here's my tentative schedule:

CHEM 101
CHEM LAB
MATH 116 (Multivariable)
MATH 202 (A Freshmen Seminar in proving things)
Writing Seminar
Intro to bioengineering

This adds up to about 22 hours per week...I am in the engineering program, but is 22 hours too much perhaps?

[KestrelLowing]

Here's my tentative schedule:

CHEM 101
CHEM LAB
MATH 116 (Multivariable)
MATH 202 (A Freshmen Seminar in proving things)
Writing Seminar
Intro to bioengineering

This adds up to about 22 hours per week...I am in the engineering program, but is 22 hours too much perhaps?

Is that 22 credit hours? That might be a bit much, especially for your freshman year. But if 22 is some other way of counting classes, you might be fine. For credit hours, I'd say that 15-18 is best for your freshman year, and just for overall.

The way I've always planned is that you expect two hours outside of class for every credit hour you have. While this won't be true for all classes, it usually evens out so that your lab class that takes 4 hours for every credit hour is equaled out by the intro course that only takes 45 minutes for every hour.

This will usually give you a high estimate, unless you tend to be slower at doing work. Because I read very fast, I usually only spend 1 to 1.5 hours outside of class for every credit hour.

So, with 22 credit hours, you should expect to be studying/doing homework 44 hours a week for a total of 66 hours per week - that's ~9.5 hours EVERY day. If you had 18 credit hours, you'd have a total of 54 hours a week - much more manageable. If you're quick (say 1.5 hours for every credit), 22 credits is still a total of 55 hours per week and 18 credit hours is 45 hours per week.

I try to aim for ~40 hours per week so I have time to do everything else that college offers while still finishing my degree in a reasonable time frame.

However, I will say that people pushed me to take 15 credit hours my first semester and I could have taken so much more.

[lu6cifer]

I think I have it down to 19-ish hours a week, which is more or less typical for engineers at my school.


EDIT: Changed "day" to "week"...19 hours a day would be hellish. Thanks for the catch GrammarBolshevik.

[False Prophet]

Fall 2011
IDE50- Statics
Math 22- Calc 3/Multvar
Geo220-Structural Geology
Phil 235- Engineering ethics
14 hours but its literally all I could take without tacking on another physics class.

[TheGrammarBolshevik]

I think I have it down to 19-ish hours a day, which is more or less typical for engineers at my school.

Do you mean per week? Hard to imagine any school where people take five hours per day to sleep, eat, etc.

[Kirby]

Freshman CS Major:

Discrete Math for Computing I
Computer Science II
Computer Architecture
Intro to Engineering & Computer Science
Social Issues & Ethics in CSE
Instrumental Ensemble II
Freshman Seminar

[KestrelLowing]

The people changed my one tech elective's time, so I had to rearrange my schedule, drop one class, and add a different one

I'm now taking:

Heat Transfer
Product Realization I
Engineering Design Processes
Dynamic Systems and Controls
Analytical Vibroacoustics (yes chrome, both of those are words in weird engineer-ese)

and Pilates and Fall Outdoor Adventures as six classes of PE is required to graduate

A 4000 level class, a 5000 level class and two 3000 level classes. It's only 16 credits, but this semester will definitely be my hardest yet. Hopefully it will go well.

[cjmcjmcjmcjm]

Junior Chemist w/ maths minor:

Pchem1+lab
Biochem1+lab
Maths 370 (D&C)
Art 200 (Elective!)
Lab aide for Chem 100
All kinds of other faeces as well.

If you really need to stalk me and know my exact schedule, PM me

[Aodhan]

Third year, second semester BSc in Chem:

CHEM3008 Medicinal and Biological Chemistry
CHEM3011 Physical and Computational Chemistry
CHEM3014 Nanoscience: Synthesis
CHEM3016 Advanced Experimental Chemistry

[raike]

Junior Chemist w/ maths minor:

Pchem1+lab
Biochem1+lab
Maths 370 (D&C)
Art 200 (Elective!)
Lab aide for Chem 100
All kinds of other faeces as well.

If you really need to stalk me and know my exact schedule, PM me

Not that I feel any need to stalk you, but what does "D&C" stand for?

[clever_username]

ECON 2010 - Intro Microecon
HIST 3281 - Genocide
MATH 3310 - Basic Real Analysis
PSYC 2400 - Intro Personality Psych
PHYS 2310 - Classical & Modern Physics 1

First year, prospective math major.

[ChoclatyGoodnes]

Sophomore majoring in Chem-E & Computational Mathematical Sciences (Applied math wasn't a good enough name??):

CHE 211: Intro to Chemical Processing
CHM 233: OChem I
CHM 237: OChem Lab I
CHM 345: PChem I
MAT 300: Mathematical Structures
MAT 420: Scientific Computing

[cjmcjmcjmcjm]

Junior Chemist w/ maths minor:

Pchem1+lab
Biochem1+lab
Maths 370 (D&C)
Art 200 (Elective!)
Lab aide for Chem 100
All kinds of other faeces as well.

If you really need to stalk me and know my exact schedule, PM me

Not that I feel any need to stalk you, but what does "D&C" stand for?

Discrete and combi…something

[nehpest]

Combinatorics? Fun!

[MisterCheif]

Well, the school has finally put up the gradebook, so I know how my classes are arranged for my senior year.

Pd 1: AP Physics B/C
Pd 2: 2 AP Physics lab days, 2 AP Bio lab days, and 2 Study Halls. (That's right bitches, my school actually did something right for the overachieving students and made AP Bio and AP Physics wrap!)
Pd 3: AP Bio
Pd 4A: AP Statistics
Lunch
Pd 5B: Wind Ensemble H (Basically band every day in the cycle, and involvement in wind ensemble which requires auditions, as well as normal concert band that includes everybody)
Pd 6: English 12 H
Pd 7: AP Calculus BC independent study (because the school decided that it is a brilliant idea to put the only period of BC calc during the only period of band.)/chill and take practice tests when my calc teacher finishes teaching me the BC curriculum by winter break.
Unscheduled (aka, not during school hours and/or specific times)
Marching Band
Jazz Band
Gifted

Now all that is left is to get my guidance counselor changed for several reasons:
1. a. The guidance counselor I have now (after they rearranged things and sent my previous counselor to the middle school) holds the belief that it is not possible for somebody to have anything in the arts as a priority. I may love the science fields and know I am going into engineering, but music is a just as an important part of me.
b. Said guidance counselor also dislikes the gifted program, which my independent study probably
2. There are significant advantages to having a counselor different from the rest of your grade:
a. I am able to select a counselor who I had as a freshman, so he actually knows me.
b. The school decided it would be a great idea to have each grade have one counselor all through high school (as opposed to having each grade split equally with one counselor for the same alphabetical range all through high school.) Meaning, instead of having to read recommendation leaders for a quarter of the senior class (about 240ish people) each year, the counselor has to read letters for all of the senior class once every 4 years.

[KestrelLowing]

Spoiler:

Well, the school has finally put up the gradebook, so I know how my classes are arranged for my senior year.

Pd 1: AP Physics B/C
Pd 2: 2 AP Physics lab days, 2 AP Bio lab days, and 2 Study Halls. (That's right bitches, my school actually did something right for the overachieving students and made AP Bio and AP Physics wrap!)
Pd 3: AP Bio
Pd 4A: AP Statistics
Lunch
Pd 5B: Wind Ensemble H (Basically band every day in the cycle, and involvement in wind ensemble which requires auditions, as well as normal concert band that includes everybody)
Pd 6: English 12 H
Pd 7: AP Calculus BC independent study (because the school decided that it is a brilliant idea to put the only period of BC calc during the only period of band.)/chill and take practice tests when my calc teacher finishes teaching me the BC curriculum by winter break.
Unscheduled (aka, not during school hours and/or specific times)
Marching Band
Jazz Band
Gifted

Now all that is left is to get my guidance counselor changed for several reasons:
1. a. The guidance counselor I have now (after they rearranged things and sent my previous counselor to the middle school) holds the belief that it is not possible for somebody to have anything in the arts as a priority. I may love the science fields and know I am going into engineering, but music is a just as an important part of me.
b. Said guidance counselor also dislikes the gifted program, which my independent study probably
2. There are significant advantages to having a counselor different from the rest of your grade:
a. I am able to select a counselor who I had as a freshman, so he actually knows me.
b. The school decided it would be a great idea to have each grade have one counselor all through high school (as opposed to having each grade split equally with one counselor for the same alphabetical range all through high school.) Meaning, instead of having to read recommendation leaders for a quarter of the senior class (about 240ish people) each year, the counselor has to read letters for all of the senior class once every 4 years.

Ah yes, they tried putting AP Calc BC during band one time (I was a freshman and didn't have to worry about it). It was surprising how fast it got changed (basically because nearly everyone in BC was in band). It got to the point where the school actually learned that if you've got an AP class that's one session, you don't put it first hour. That's when band and orchestra are, and that's where a good portion of your smart students are.

[cjmcjmcjmcjm]

Combinatorics? Fun!

Yes!
The best part about my schedule is that it appears Tuesdays may be rather free and that I only have to buy books for Pchem and the lab manual for Biochem

[P13808]

High school junior year coming up

Junior Year
AP English Language and Composition
Precalculus
AP Microeconomics (1st semester)
AP Macroeconomics (2nd semester)
AP Physics B
Driver's Education (1st semester)
AP Psychology (2nd semester)
Latin I

Senior Year
AP English Literature and Composition
AP Calculus BC
AP United States Government
AP Statistics
Music Appreciation (1st semester)
Digital Photography (2nd semester)
AP Computer Science

[cjmcjmcjmcjm]

You're completely mental for having you schedule planned out that far ahead, especially in HS

[TheGrammarBolshevik]

"That far ahead"? Ze's one notch above the bare minimum. And I have trouble seeing what ze loses by having such a plan. It's not like posting a schedule here precludes making changes.

[gorcee]

"That far ahead"? Ze's one notch above the bare minimum. And I have trouble seeing what ze loses by having such a plan. It's not like posting a schedule here precludes making changes.

Also, it's not like High School really gives you a plethora of choices, particularly if you already have a post-secondary plan penciled out.

[nehpest]

"That far ahead"? Ze's one notch above the bare minimum. And I have trouble seeing what ze loses by having such a plan. It's not like posting a schedule here precludes making changes.

Also, it's not like High School really gives you a plethora of choices, particularly if you already have a post-secondary plan penciled out.

Truth. I and a few of my friends had our entire high school schedule planned out within the first month of freshman year, simply because there were only two possible ways to take all the advanced classes. When another class was added to the mix before my junior year started, those two ways became one way; we spent the next two years following each other from room to room.

[raike]

"That far ahead"? Ze's one notch above the bare minimum. And I have trouble seeing what ze loses by having such a plan. It's not like posting a schedule here precludes making changes.

Also, it's not like High School really gives you a plethora of choices, particularly if you already have a post-secondary plan penciled out.

Truth. I and a few of my friends had our entire high school schedule planned out within the first month of freshman year, simply because there were only two possible ways to take all the advanced classes. When another class was added to the mix before my junior year started, those two ways became one way; we spent the next two years following each other from room to room.

Yeah, most of the people I hung out with did this. Then again, the counselors at my high school were pretty obsessive about four-year planning.

Now, in college, I've tried to plan what courses I'll be taking each semester. Sadly, when it comes time to schedule classes, all of my plans tend to fall apart due to various factors such as schedule conflicts, courses not being offered in that particular semester, or courses filling up.

[Alex-J]

"That far ahead"? Ze's one notch above the bare minimum. And I have trouble seeing what ze loses by having such a plan. It's not like posting a schedule here precludes making changes.

Also, it's not like High School really gives you a plethora of choices, particularly if you already have a post-secondary plan penciled out.

Truth. I and a few of my friends had our entire high school schedule planned out within the first month of freshman year, simply because there were only two possible ways to take all the advanced classes. When another class was added to the mix before my junior year started, those two ways became one way; we spent the next two years following each other from room to room.

Entering my freshman year I had my four-years planned out (well, senior year had a few question marks), because you need to see where your priories will lie. At my school AP classes were forbidden for freshmen and sophomores, even if you had the prereqs, making it even more obnoxious and difficult

I was surprised at the number of our advanced students that didn't make plans, and ended up having to skip AP classes (or other classes they wanted) because they didn't take a career-tech or fine arts class they could've gotten out of the way as underclassmen, while they were killing time with filler-classes.

[gorcee]

"That far ahead"? Ze's one notch above the bare minimum. And I have trouble seeing what ze loses by having such a plan. It's not like posting a schedule here precludes making changes.

Also, it's not like High School really gives you a plethora of choices, particularly if you already have a post-secondary plan penciled out.

Truth. I and a few of my friends had our entire high school schedule planned out within the first month of freshman year, simply because there were only two possible ways to take all the advanced classes. When another class was added to the mix before my junior year started, those two ways became one way; we spent the next two years following each other from room to room.

Entering my freshman year I had my four-years planned out (well, senior year had a few question marks), because you need to see where your priories will lie. At my school AP classes were forbidden for freshmen and sophomores, even if you had the prereqs, making it even more obnoxious and difficult

I was surprised at the number of our advanced students that didn't make plans, and ended up having to skip AP classes (or other classes they wanted) because they didn't take a career-tech or fine arts class they could've gotten out of the way as underclassmen, while they were killing time with filler-classes.

In high school, I didn't have anything planned out, because it was pretty much pointless without many choices. It was like, take physics either junior or senior year, and chemistry during the other year. So my friends and I basically just figured out what all was necessary to take the classes we wanted with each other when the schedules came out.

I had things pretty well planned out in college, but then I left school for three years, and when I came back, they shifted some fall-only courses to spring-only, and I didn't have enough money to do an extra semester, so I ended up doing a double major (one of them being a dual program) minus three classes in a total of seven semesters (despite somehow spending eight semesters of financial aid. Yeah. Fuck you, RPI). That still stings.

[benoitowns]

I had things pretty well planned out in college, but then I left school for three years, and when I came back, they shifted some fall-only courses to spring-only, and I didn't have enough money to do an extra semester, so I ended up doing a double major (one of them being a dual program) minus three classes in a total of seven semesters (despite somehow spending eight semesters of financial aid. Yeah. Fuck you, RPI). That still stings.

I've seen a lot of your posts complain about RPI. What did they do to you there? What happened?

[cjmcjmcjmcjm]

"That far ahead"? Ze's one notch above the bare minimum. And I have trouble seeing what ze loses by having such a plan. It's not like posting a schedule here precludes making changes.

Also, it's not like High School really gives you a plethora of choices, particularly if you already have a post-secondary plan penciled out.

Truth. I and a few of my friends had our entire high school schedule planned out within the first month of freshman year, simply because there were only two possible ways to take all the advanced classes. When another class was added to the mix before my junior year started, those two ways became one way; we spent the next two years following each other from room to room.

Entering my freshman year I had my four-years planned out (well, senior year had a few question marks), because you need to see where your priories will lie. At my school AP classes were forbidden for freshmen and sophomores, even if you had the prereqs, making it even more obnoxious and difficult

I was surprised at the number of our advanced students that didn't make plans, and ended up having to skip AP classes (or other classes they wanted) because they didn't take a career-tech or fine arts class they could've gotten out of the way as underclassmen, while they were killing time with filler-classes.

My school had us make plans before we entered, but mine was immediately forgotten. That one had me taking all kinds of math and computer classes and one year of band. That didn't happen, and I am glad of that. I took band all the time and AP history classes I'd've never taken if I didn't have a certain notoriously difficult history teacher my freshman year. Somehow I got into AP CS without the prereq and did just fine.

[mathgeek17]

Junior year in high school:
A: Precalc
B: Accounting I
C: AP Gov (U.S.)
D: Band
E: Computer Maintenance/Repair
F: Chem
G: Marketing (S1)/ Econ (S2)
H: English 11
Online Classes: Latin II & Computer Programming Python/Java

[MisterCheif]

Ah yes, they tried putting AP Calc BC during band one time (I was a freshman and didn't have to worry about it). It was surprising how fast it got changed (basically because nearly everyone in BC was in band). It got to the point where the school actually learned that if you've got an AP class that's one session, you don't put it first hour. That's when band and orchestra are, and that's where a good portion of your smart students are.

I wish that was the case, but unfortunately, there are only about 9 or 10 people from my grade in band, and I am pretty sure I am the only one taking BC calc. Well, at least it means that I get the class as an independent study with one of my favorite teachers, who is also (as I hear from everyone who has taken BC calc) an infinitely better teacher than the BC calc teacher.

Though I am amazed that they were willing to give me an independent study for it, as they don't normally do that if they offer the class. I guess it might have something to do with me most likely being in the top 10 of my class. I say most likely because though my GPA strongly suggests that I am, the school decided during my sophomore year that "class rank makes things too competitive, so we'll only tell the top ten in their class their class rank, once, at the beginning of senior year. Because you know, no colleges might find that information important at all. And its not like we instituted class rank in the first place to try to get people to work harder for the sake of competition..."

Sorry if this turned into a rant about my school, but they've made some other annoying decisions recently. Like when instituting a "pay to participate program" (which I personally have no problem with) they decided to:
1) list band and chorus (not that I'm in chorus but it's the principle) major activities (with a fee of $50), despite them being scheduled classes receiving credit, which they claimed they would not do. I'm trying to get clarification about whether it is just unscheduled ones [marching band (though this is supposed to be a graded class this year), jazz band, vocal ensemble, etc] that have a cost.
2) Considered robotics and physics olympics as major activities as well (meaning, they receive at least $2000 from the school in funding, stipends to the teacher adviser, and/or other payments (transportation, entry fees, etc.) I'm not absolutely sure about physics olympics, except for the fact that it has no funding, but I do know that in robotics, the only money we get is our adviser putting his stipend into our funding, which otherwise consists of only grants. He just removes some as reimbursement for the tax on supplies he buys for the club, for which the school then reimburses him for, except for the tax.
Anyway, I highly doubt teacher stipends amount to more than $2000 for a year, seeing as other clubs, some with multiple advisers, are only considered minor activities (cost of 25$ a person).

It's a good thing there is an individual and family caps, as I would then be paying at least $150 (marching band, robotics, and physics olympics), plus whatever else for scheduled band, once I can get clarification.

I can be thankful that at least the costs are low compared to some other schools around us, where it is $150 for any extracurricular activity, and a family cap of $500 I believe...[/rant]

Again, sorry for the rant. The post just kind of ended up that way.

[gorcee]

I had things pretty well planned out in college, but then I left school for three years, and when I came back, they shifted some fall-only courses to spring-only, and I didn't have enough money to do an extra semester, so I ended up doing a double major (one of them being a dual program) minus three classes in a total of seven semesters (despite somehow spending eight semesters of financial aid. Yeah. Fuck you, RPI). That still stings.

I've seen a lot of your posts complain about RPI. What did they do to you there? What happened?

It's a 2-part story:

My sophomore year, spring semester, the financial aid office screwed up the processing of one of my loans, and did not call me to tell me that until one day before the loan offer expired. Specifically, they lost my promissory note. The loan was for about $8,000, or about the entire balance of what I owed for the semester. I managed some administrative sleight-of-hand to bypass the financial hold, allowing me to continue registering for classes despite the balance.

My senior year, fall semester, I got sick. Early in the semester, I sat down with health services, and subsequently with the engineering school undergraduate chair, who advised me to "tough it out." As the semester wore on, it was apparent that I could not, and I ended up failing my courses. During the winter break, I started treatments, and went back for the spring semester, knowing I would have to re-take my fall courses, and I worked on getting a medical withdrawal applied to my fall semester. I was feeling better and doing better, and even worked on my Capstone project. About 3 weeks from the end of the semester, RPI told me that due to my balance that had been hanging over from my sophomore year, my entire semester would be voided.

I left school, and focused on getting healthy. It took me a year and a half, supporting documentation from four doctors, sit-down meeting with the Dean of Students, Dean of the School of Engineering, Provost, and Vice President for Student Life to get the medical withdrawal applied. Despite the fact that I had documentation dating back to the start of my fall semester, the medical withdrawal was dated for the day after the deadline for any tuition refunds. Which meant that I lost $3k in cash, an entire semester's worth of grant aid (about $10k worth) and took on about another $6k in loans for nothing. This, on top of the fuck-up from my sophomore year with my loans.

Because that $8k balance from Sophomore year still hung around, I couldn't re-register until I paid that off. So, despite being very sick, I worked 2 minimum-wage jobs so I could get health insurance and repay RPI so I could get back and finish my education. My senior year started in the Fall of 2003. I went back to finish school in Fall 2007.

Because my Spring 2004 semester was voided, I still had that financial aid, but I lost Fall 2003. So I only had one semester of aid remaining. I had to drop one of my majors to finish in the time allotted. Also, because four years had passed, college costs went up, but my aid levels did not. I finished my last semester with an $11000 debit (non-loan) hanging over my head. I finished paying that off just last year.

Also, to put the icing on the cake, they fucked up a transfer of some humanities credits, which I had to run around during the last week of the year to get approved (or I could not have graduated). Because of this, they tried telling me that i had to register for a zero-credit semester to graduate or they would have withheld my degree. Of course, I couldn't have registered because I owed them $11,000. I dodged that bullet, as well, using more administrative leverage.

I am still haunted by the idea that they will come after me somehow. I have seven years of documentation in a safe at home. I saved every email, every statement, every piece of correspondence I ever received. I have a ton of documentation that documents everything that I did and that they did, and it's pretty clear that they fucked up bigtime. I even have a notarized witness statement from my roommate who was with me when I handed in my prom. note that sophomore year.

The best part of all this?

In December 2000, I was featured in an article in the Alumni magazine, called "the model student for the new millenium." In SY 2001-2002 (my sophomore year), they used a picture of me (from that article) in the official university catalog... on the financial aid page.

[Lady Macaroni]

Sheesh, makes my entire high school career sound pathetic. Then again, my school had block scheduling and (purposely?) put the few APs it does offer during the same blocks as each other and the required classes...

Freshman, journalism:

• The Golden City (honors seminar about classical Greece)
• Intro to Journalism
• Conversational II: The Spanish-Speaking World (still not sure how I placed into that, considering it's a junior-level course and I haven't taken any Spanish since Spanish 4 junior year...)
• Stagecraft and Theater Production (I was a stage manager in high school, I couldn't resist)
• Intro to the Theater (outsider's view, things like writing reviews)
• Spark: Igniting Your Future in Communication (required for all communications students)

No room for band, unfortunately. Stupid Spark class.

If I had my way, I would've taken more biology instead of the theater intro course, because even though AP Bio didn't really get me anywhere in terms of college placement, it was by far one of the best classes I had taken. As a language person, I have a bit of a fascination with neuroscience, and genetics is just cool by principle.