Bit of an over reaction there EP.
I'm just pointing out flaws in the plan, maybe they are real flaws or maybe it's me having a logic fail. But you seem to have jumped to the conclusion that I've got this entire system totally figured out already and any mistake I make is on purpose to mislead town. I think someone is projecting...
But maybe not, maybe we're both being sensitive. Lets discuss the merits of both plans since I'm still not convinced which one is better. You may convince me you were right still and my objections will be withdrawn.
Elvish Pillager wrote:BoomFrog, seriously, WTF? You try to shoot down the cop plan with worry about scum PGOs, then you say everyone should get a public day action, specifically ones that aren't even unblockable (and hence are vulnerable to Lightning Rod as well as plain old PGO). You also repeatedly suggest taking doctor abilities - you've mentioned doctoring in practically every post - when you "seem" to be acutely aware of the possibility of unblockable kills. Again... wtf?
Doctor's are good because they can protect against PGO and are much cheaper then Kill immunity. If we are throwing around abilities on everyone then we should worry very much about scum PGOs. Although I'll agree everywhere I said Doctor you should replace it with Epic Bodyguard if you can afford it. Even if you bodyguard against an unblockable kill you should still kill the attacker. Also the scum teams natural kill is not unblockable. So more then 50% of the killing I expect to happen is blockable, and we need to prevent some of the killing because if we prevent none then everyone dies in one night and resurrect isn't helping.Can Unblockable be applied to PGO or Epic Bodyguard to make the kill unblockable?
Kill immune still stops an unblockable kill right?
And you know what saves the cop plan from the kind of killing you're talking about? That's right, one-shot unblockable epic resurrects. They don't even have to be day-resurrects, they could be any kind of resurrection that's possible to use D1 or N1 - whatever combination of odd-night and X-shot you like.
Well that's assuming we have all epic day cops with night resurrections which is not what you originally proposed but ok, lets look at that.
20.25 for Alignment Cop. (Oneshot, Odd, Unblockable, Epic Day, Public)
Assuming six town and everyone in town takes that then we've spent 120 points, and it's countered by an Odd day Category disabler for 45 points. Seems like a loss for town now.
Okay, lets say half the people take Double public day cop and the other half take ressurects...
30.37 points for the cops (don't need epic day now only day), but we only need an average of three. That is at least break even with scum assuming 2 town points are worth 1 scum point. I still think this works better as a potential strategy that a few people choose to secretly take rather then a mass strategy where it is public knowledge who is taking what.
Dunno if we'd get their alignment info if we rezzed them N1, but if we decide that PGOs are scummy, then they're pretty much confirmed town for having tripped a PGO on scum while successfully copping them as scum
Not if we have a clear plan to ressurect them in place, no they would not be confirmed anything. And they could false claim about who was the PGO.
And that was your first idea. I have trouble imagining how it could have conveniently slipped your mind if you were town. I mean, I can't really imagine how it could have slipped your mind if you're scum, either, but at least I can sort of imagine how you might have thought that was a plausible way to try to shoot down the cop plan, and either not thought it through completely or thought the townies wouldn't think it through completely.
What was my idea first? Also, with you me and webby here I'd assume everything is going to get thought through a lot.
I mean, sorry to rain on your parade, but I really don't want a repeat of GGL.
For the noobs (me at least) what happened in GGL?