See, I would have far preferred to have some more leftfield candidates, as it were, in my selection, but at this sort of stage in the decision process voting outside the core group is practically wasting a vote, unless there's a sudden sea change. I mean, softchews would have been a satisfactory member on the panel, for example (not so sure about weiyaoli myself) but with no momentum there's no chance of it happening. I'd almost consider an unusual vote as a declaration of indifference and/or scumminess (if the top three at the point in time you arrive to vote suit you, why muck around with them?) if it weren't for the fact that it would probably have helped to have had someone else bar the four big names on the committee. Now I'm kinda regretting not having left my ballot to the morning...webby wrote:Reading back, I see that these aren't popular choices. I didn't think my analysis was that far off everyone else's? :S
Dr. Ug (8) - a-wan, more_people, weiyaoli, jayhsu, Not A Raptor, Ibarra, Sruixan, weiyaoli
1. Is this an okay plan? Please give concrete reasons for yes or no.
2. If we did this plan, should we lock in the there we have currently or choose a different (though not necessarily non-overlapping) group of three.
3. If we choose not to lock in these three, who would you choose?
Elvish Pillager wrote:2. Each game day, you decide on somebody to lynch. Someone will always be lynched each day - you can't choose not to lynch - and there are no vote-affecting or lynch-affecting abilities in the game. If there's no majority by the deadline, then the lynch will be decided by plurality. If there's a tie, it will be decided at random, except that town will always be lynched before scum, because the lynch is the scum's main weapon. The town are also not permitted to decide the lynch based on the player order, cryptography, or any other external source of randomness. You're supposed to vote for who you think is scum.
existential_elevator wrote:No lynch
That's... not the only problem. Here, let me go and do the reading up for you:Lorenz wrote:I don't understand why m_p has so many votes and is so scummy. Yes, he has proposed that proposing plans is not good, but I agree with it. Every plan proposed I think fails in understanding that scum has the bigger voice here, and doesn't really give more information than individual voting. Also, it doesn't really help our chances of lynching scum. I think individual voting is the best choice we have. The only other suggestion I like is having a single person decide, but that leads to less analysis and choosing that one person leads to the same problems.
Sruixan wrote:7. more_people - webby says his posts are "pretty typical of usual posting style", in which case I'll put away this hatchet and look somewhat dejected. See, his first post seemed like a sheeple-esque following of Lorenz, giving no new reasons for why we shouldn't scheme. This reeks of a scumster who isn't quite good enough at distancing himself from those he knows are his teammates and backs them up in a manner that's far too obvious. I get the same sort of feel from his third post, supporting jayhsu. But if he's always like this, how to tell if it's bad town play or terrible mafia play...? *sighs*
Misnomer wrote:The other gut concern was with regards to more_people's post here - perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but this looks like m_p jumping to the defence of jayhsu - and jumping to people's defence is generally a sign of scummyness in my book*.
*The worrying implications of which regarding my state of mind, I will ignore for now...
Not A Raptor wrote:7. more_people
(14): "me too"'s Lorenz, advocates a lack of strategy on the town's part. Either a real strong scum ping or he doesn't know what he's talking about. "no strategy", in my view, is throwing one's hands into the wind and devoting yourself to fickle luck in the hopes that it'll help you.
(17): Criticism of Hausdog. Perhaps picking an easy target? Hell if I know. Certainly legitimate to criticize, at any rate. No ping one way or the other.
(36): Criticizes weiyaoli's suspicion of jayshu. Scum might be "town" in numbers and using the lynch, but terminology mindfuckery is hardly productive.
(70): Suspicious of Sruixan and Hausdog. Is now calling strategizing scheming. Seriously? Sruixan and Hausdog? Sruixan, for not reading the entirety of one of your posts despite lots of consistent contribution and a player analysis? And Hausdog, merely for a gut feeling instead of being a lurking player? I'm about to kick your butt off Slappy Island, here! >.< (Can this place please be Slappy Island in the flavor? )
(72): Forgives Sruixan, answers the questions. Anti-plan forever. Urgh.
softchews wrote:[votes for more_people]
This vote has been a while coming for me, but it was in the reply to Sruixan's vote which seemed unreasonably sharp and defensive, rather then a thought out defence against the vote which is what I would expect in a game like this. This on top of scum-like behaviour earlier (defending scummy thoughts from people and the likes) makes me vote this way.
Guilty as charged, m'lud. I'm a stream-of-conciousness style guy, really, and to top it off I am neither concise nor good at explanation. Sorry if my posts have been dense reads...a-wan wrote:Sruixan - I've liked his posts. The only thing I find troubling is his uncanny ability to make long posts where he doesn't end up really saying that much.
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