Diadem wrote:Density fluctuations in the air are good enough for me. But it's not seeing (unless you're a bat). Electromagnetic repulsion between the atoms of my skin and the atoms of some other object is good enough for me, but it's not seeing either. There are many ways of gathering information about the world. Only one of them is called 'seeing'. Electron microscopy is a technique fundamentally different from seeing. It's cool, it works, but not seeing.
Aha! But the bat is merely turning sound waves into visual information, much as the electron microscope is turning electrons into visual information. If bat's echolocation and television are both "seeing", then the definition of "seeing" relies neither on transmission (in both cases it's transferred by non-photonic means), nor on the actual sensing (bat's hear their echolocation, they don't recieve photons from it), and it's merely the mapping that you define as "seeing".
So clearly that picture is seeing. :p
(also, this is the most rediculous argument ever. I know what you mean, but I'm being obtuse for theatrical reasons)