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by Master Gunner » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:41 pm UTC
I've seen people use the terms i.e. and e.g. pretty much interchangeably to show that they're giving an example. However, I've recently started wondering about what the terms actually mean and whether they should be used like that. I know I could look it up on Google or Wikipedia, but this sub-fora needs more topics.
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by antonfire » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:43 pm UTC
They're different things.
"e.g." means "for example".
"i.e." means "in other words".
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by crazyjimbo » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:55 pm UTC
I.e. literally translates from Latin as 'that is'. Whenever I read i.e., in my head I think 'that is' and it's usually easy to tell if it is used wrongly.
E.g. just screams example to me as it reads like a shortened version of 'example' (although it isn't).
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by Amicitia » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:17 am UTC
I personally think that it's better to stick with English if you're trying to speak or write it, unless there is an exceptionally meaningful non-English replacement.
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by zenten » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:23 am UTC
Amicitia wrote:I personally think that it's better to stick with English if you're trying to speak or write it, unless there is an exceptionally meaningful non-English replacement.
I think you're in the wrong thread.
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by Amicitia » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:39 am UTC
Instead of i.e., "in other words" and instead of e.g., "for example." The Latin abbreviations are better for notes, but I think using them in an English paper demonstrates a certain degree of stuffiness.
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by antonfire » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:01 am UTC
I just use them because I'm used to doing math, where abbreviations are the norm.
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by RealGrouchy » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:48 am UTC
You have died of dysentery.
i.e.
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by shill » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:49 pm UTC
Master Gunner wrote:I know I could look it up on Google or Wikipedia, but this sub-fora needs more topics.
No, this sub-for
um (you'd better have done that on purpose) needs more
interesting topics that have some room for discussion.
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by yeyui » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:44 pm UTC
Since no one else has, here are the Latin phrases that i.e. and e.g. abbreviate:
id est "that is"
exempli gratia "for the sake of example"
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