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Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby Iulus Cofield » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:41 pm UTC

Why men are in trouble

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Editor's note: William J. Bennett, a CNN contributor, is the author of "The Book of Man: Readings on the Path to Manhood." Bennett is the Washington fellow of the Claremont Institute. He was U.S. secretary of education from 1985 to 1988 and was director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy under President George H.W. Bush.

For the first time in history, women are better educated, more ambitious and arguably more successful than men.
Now, society has rightly celebrated the ascension of one sex. We said, "You go girl," and they went. We celebrate the ascension of women but what will we do about what appears to be the very real decline of the other sex?

The data does not bode well for men. In 1970, men earned 60% of all college degrees. In 1980, the figure fell to 50%, by 2006 it was 43%. Women now surpass men in college degrees by almost three to two. Women's earnings grew 44% in real dollars from 1970 to 2007, compared with 6% growth for men.

In 1950, 5% of men at the prime working age were unemployed. As of last year, 20% were not working, the highest ever recorded. Men still maintain a majority of the highest paid and most powerful occupations, but women are catching them and will soon be passing them if this trend continues.

The warning signs for men stretch far beyond their wallets. Men are more distant from a family or their children then they have ever been. The out-of-wedlock birthrate is more than 40% in America. In 1960, only 11% of children in the U.S. lived apart from their fathers. In 2010, that share had risen to 27%. Men are also less religious than ever before. According to Gallup polling, 39% of men reported attending church regularly in 2010, compared to 47% of women.

If you don't believe the numbers, just ask young women about men today. You will find them talking about prolonged adolescence and men who refuse to grow up. I've heard too many young women asking, "Where are the decent single men?" There is a maturity deficit among men out there, and men are falling behind.

This decline in founding virtues -- work, marriage, and religion -- has caught the eye of social commentators from all corners. In her seminal article, "The End of Men," Hanna Rosin unearthed the unprecedented role reversal that is taking place today. "Man has been the dominant sex since, well, the dawn of mankind. But for the first time in human history, that is changing—and with shocking speed," writes Rosin. The changes in modern labor -- from backs to brains -- have catapulted women to the top of the work force, leaving men in their dust.

Man's response has been pathetic. Today, 18-to- 34-year-old men spend more time playing video games a day than 12-to- 17-year-old boys. While women are graduating college and finding good jobs, too many men are not going to work, not getting married and not raising families. Women are beginning to take the place of men in many ways. This has led some to ask: do we even need men?

So what's wrong? Increasingly, the messages to boys about what it means to be a man are confusing. The machismo of the street gang calls out with a swagger. Video games, television and music offer dubious lessons to boys who have been abandoned by their fathers. Some coaches and drill sergeants bark, "What kind of man are you?" but don't explain.

Movies are filled with stories of men who refuse to grow up and refuse to take responsibility in relationships. Men, some obsessed with sex, treat women as toys to be discarded when things get complicated. Through all these different and conflicting signals, our boys must decipher what it means to be a man, and for many of them it is harder to figure out.

For boys to become men, they need to be guided through advice, habit, instruction, example and correction. It is true in all ages. Someone once characterized the two essential questions Plato posed as: Who teaches the children, and what do we teach them? Each generation of men and women have an obligation to teach the younger males (and females of course) coming behind them. William Wordsworth said, "What we have loved, others will love, and we will teach them how." When they fail in that obligation, trouble surely follows.

We need to respond to this culture that sends confusing signals to young men, a culture that is agnostic about what it wants men to be, with a clear and achievable notion of manhood.

The Founding Fathers believed, and the evidence still shows, that industriousness, marriage and religion are a very important basis for male empowerment and achievement. We may need to say to a number of our twenty-something men, "Get off the video games five hours a day, get yourself together, get a challenging job and get married." It's time for men to man up.


Bonus related article from January:

Are women leaving men behind?

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Editor's note: TED is a nonprofit dedicated to "Ideas worth spreading," which it makes available through talks posted on its website. Hanna Rosin is co-founder of the Double X women's section that appears on the Slate website, and is a contributing editor at The Atlantic.

I can't help but notice that while most of the other TED talks shown on the TED website draw comments of "inspiring" or "courageous" or "beautiful," mine is labeled ... "obnoxious." Am I insulted? Of course! But it's perfectly obvious from reading the comments why this is so.

Most people who see one of the tag lines for the talk -- "end of men" or "rise of women" -- assume that my talk is merely the latest volley in the gender wars: men up, women down; now women up, men down. Many commenters even call me a "radical feminist."

To many people who read me on DoubleX, the women's section of Slate I helped found, the notion that I am a "radical feminist" would be funny. Most days I struggle just to be accepted into the camp of plain old feminists. This is mainly because I am not by nature ideological and generally suspicious of people who are.

I came to the conclusion that we have reached this new point in history, where the power dynamics between men and women are shifting rapidly, not by preformed ideology but by connecting the data points: college graduation rates, job projections, marriage patterns, pop culture images.

When you open your eyes to the evidence, you can see that so many of our assumptions about the natural order between men and women are no longer relevant.

In a recent article I wrote for the Atlantic, called "The End of Men" (the basis for the talk), I lay out all the statistics. In the United States, for every two men who receive college degrees, three women will do the same. This past year, for the first time, there were more women than men in the workplace.

Women are starting to flood professional fields -- they are doctors, lawyers, accountants, bankers. They hold more than half of all managerial and professional jobs. They dominate all but two of the professions projected to grow the fastest in the next 15 years (janitor and computer programmer). The worldwide economy is becoming a place where, overall, women are finding more success than men.

Lately this economic success is starting to affect the culture -- our dating lives, our marriages, how we raise our children. The phrase "first-born son" is so deeply ingrained in our culture that this statistic alone opened my eyes: In American fertility clinics, 75 percent of couples are requesting girls.

Why is this? As one fertility expert surmised in my Atlantic story: These mothers "look at their lives and think their daughters will have a bright future their mother and grandmother didn't have, brighter than their sons even, so why wouldn't you choose a girl?"

In certain segments of society, men are struggling to stay relevant in this rapidly changing economy, as manufacturing jobs disappear. Women, meanwhile, are making many more of the decisions: how to raise the children, manage the money, even whether to get married at all.

Let me say this again: This is not feminist gloating. It's not any kind of value judgment. It just is. Women are in so many ways filling the roles that men traditionally filled.

Many of the changes happening are obviously beneficial to women: They have more economic freedom and power than ever. But many of the changes are not all that positive for women.

With more freedom and power comes the burden of managing, heading households alone, being ever more perfect. And the stresses show up in reports of increased rates of unhappiness, alcoholism and even violence among women. Plus, the prospect of women rising is quite threatening to men in many places, so the transition can look ugly.

I have a father, a brother and a husband I love, not to mention innumerable male friends and colleagues. Most importantly I have two darling sons. I talk about the "end of men" not to make them feel hopeless and doomed to failure, but to open their eyes to the idea that gender roles are more fluid than ever, and that they do not have to fill some particular expectation. If you are prepared for it, then the end of a particular kind of macho can be a relief, not a curse.

I grew up with a pretty tough mom. She was a self-appointed neighborhood watchdog and if she saw that any of the local boys were up to no good she would scold them on the spot. Although she is only 5 feet 2, she was famous in our neighborhood for intimidating men three times her size and getting them to do the right thing. In our family, she was definitely the dominant player.

I'm not half as tough as she is. But I do take this lesson from her: You may be the boss, but you'll get nowhere if you don't bring the men up with you.

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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby sourmìlk » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:47 pm UTC

That was slightly sexist. I recognize the problem of sexual inequality in either direction though. But why is creating a manly stereotype an appropriate response?

Also, there's no conflict between video games multiple hours a day and a job. See: me. Okay, my job is part time. See: my boss, who at least plays some video games and who works like hell.
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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby Dauric » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:54 pm UTC

sourmìlk wrote:That was slightly sexist. I recognize the problem of sexual inequality in either direction though. But why is creating a manly stereotype an appropriate response?

Also, there's no conflict between video games multiple hours a day and a job. See: me. Okay, my job is part time. See: my boss, who at least plays some video games and who works like hell.


I think, the way that I read them, the "Macho" stereotype is being presented as part and parcel of the problem. The Macho stereotype that's pushed by the media lately is that men are stupid and insensitive, incurious and immature. Go figure that being presented with this image as the way to be a "real man" results in men who don't/can't hold jobs, can't maintain a relationship and don't get higher education.

Referencing video games as an "Evil" goes along with that "Religion is necessary to a functional man" drivel. It's just as bad as the "Real Man" stereotype and driven by the personal ideology of the writer.
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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby podbaydoor » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:55 pm UTC

Also, there should be a big old "In first world countries" slapped on both articles.
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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby Iulus Cofield » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:02 pm UTC

I am reasonably certain that both articles are talking specifically about the US.

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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby Dauric » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:05 pm UTC

podbaydoor wrote:Also, there should be a big old "In first world countries" slapped on both articles.


Wait, What? There's something.... 'Other' than developed nations? Surely they don't -actually- matter... They can't possibly.... Auggh, Authorities! This heretic is introducing "thoughts" in to my "Thinking Pan" and must be 'disappeared' at once!

(and yes that's sarcasm)

Less flippantly: These are more ... "Local" issues if you will, and may be constrained to the U.S. in particular (the data presented is pretty much US only). It's not like I'd expect an article about the budget of the Colorado Dept. of Transportation to have a caveat about the roads in southern Sudan.
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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby Cheezwhiz Jenkins » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:05 pm UTC

OH NO women are about to become the dominant sex you guys!! Aaaaah!

This is just laughable. Yeah, women's salaries grew faster - and in doing so, closed SOME of the gender wage gap. Don't worry - we still don't earn 90% of what males do.

Women are starting to approach the most prestigious, highly-paid jobs, a prospect unthinkable in years past, so therefore...they threaten men? Yeah, THAT'S a new argument.

Oh and at least large chunks of the article aren't subjective and/or pointless, like the bit about the apparently skyrocketing numbers of immature, irreligious men. Oh, wait.

Please. At least let women attain equality before spouting bs about how all the poor poor mans am threatened by the femnazis. I mean, at least BASE your article on something. Come back to me when the ERA is ratified (hint: hell will freeze over first).

And the term "male empowerment" is positively rage-inducing.
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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby Iulus Cofield » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:07 pm UTC

Cheezwhiz Jenkins wrote:This is just laughable. Yeah, women's salaries grew faster - and in doing so, closed SOME of the gender wage gap. Don't worry - we still don't earn 90% of what males do.

Women are starting to approach the most prestigious, highly-paid jobs, a prospect unthinkable in years past, so therefore...they threaten men? Yeah, THAT'S a new argument.


Did you catch the part about women earning 60% of undergraduate degrees, having one quarter the unemployment rate of men, or outnumbering men in total number of US workers? I think there's more to it than women becoming CEO's.

Also, what is the ERA? Google is crapping out on me.

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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby sourmìlk » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:10 pm UTC

Cheezwhiz, cheezwhiz, that was quite a rant. There are clear areas in which females are performing better than males. Why is noting gender inequality so horrible?
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Postby Triangle_Man » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:12 pm UTC

He may or may not be talking about Male Empowerment, but assuming that his statistics are true than this indicates that we are raising the male population to be a bunch of fuckups.

Of course, I'm sure that one gender becoming increasingly incompetent isn't quite as bad as one gender being oppressed.
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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby kiklion » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:13 pm UTC

I found that line about women's salaries growing faster, and if the trend continues how they will pass men's salaries hilarious. #1, That is not a bad thing. If it is disproportionately set that may be bad, but even then if men continue to work manual labour positions and women rise in the ranks of intellectual positions (traditionally higher earning jobs) then women's average pay should be quite a bit higher than a man's. #2, If women originally earned on average, 1,000 a month and men earned 10,000 a month. And then next year men on average earned 10,010 a month vs women's 1,020... if that trend continues women may earn more eventually!

The entire part about religion could have been left out for a slightly more convincing argument. There are vile religious people, there are nice atheists.

I don't see how playing video games is detrimental compared to other past times such as; drinking, watching sports, illegally racing your car, watching t.v, or complaining.

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I don't have anything against the ERA.... but I don't see how it is necessary. Is male sexism codified in the law somewhere? (ignoring outdated laws that no one listens to that fell through the cracks and were never updated. Example: It is illegal to eat ice cream in the winter in alabama. Or something else that sounds made up)
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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby Dark567 » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:15 pm UTC

If you want to read something a little better then CNN on the topic http://intelligencesquaredus.org/index. ... -finished/

(I tried to put the transcript in spoilers, but it ended up being multiple times the character length)

But this is also good: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... -men/8135/
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IN THE 1970s the biologist Ronald Ericsson came up with a way to separate sperm carrying the male-producing Y chromosome from those carrying the X. He sent the two kinds of sperm swimming down a glass tube through ever-thicker albumin barriers. The sperm with the X chromosome had a larger head and a longer tail, and so, he figured, they would get bogged down in the viscous liquid. The sperm with the Y chromosome were leaner and faster and could swim down to the bottom of the tube more efficiently. Ericsson had grown up on a ranch in South Dakota, where he’d developed an Old West, cowboy swagger. The process, he said, was like “cutting out cattle at the gate.” The cattle left flailing behind the gate were of course the X’s, which seemed to please him. He would sometimes demonstrate the process using cartilage from a bull’s penis as a pointer.

In the late 1970s, Ericsson leased the method to clinics around the U.S., calling it the first scientifically proven method for choosing the sex of a child. Instead of a lab coat, he wore cowboy boots and a cowboy hat, and doled out his version of cowboy poetry. (People magazine once suggested a TV miniseries based on his life called Cowboy in the Lab.) The right prescription for life, he would say, was “breakfast at five-thirty, on the saddle by six, no room for Mr. Limp Wrist.” In 1979, he loaned out his ranch as the backdrop for the iconic “Marlboro Country” ads because he believed in the campaign’s central image—“a guy riding on his horse along the river, no bureaucrats, no lawyers,” he recalled when I spoke to him this spring. “He’s the boss.” (The photographers took some 6,500 pictures, a pictorial record of the frontier that Ericsson still takes great pride in.)



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Feminists of the era did not take kindly to Ericsson and his Marlboro Man veneer. To them, the lab cowboy and his sperminator portended a dystopia of mass-produced boys. “You have to be concerned about the future of all women,” Roberta Steinbacher, a nun-turned-social-psychologist, said in a 1984 People profile of Ericsson. “There’s no question that there exists a universal preference for sons.” Steinbacher went on to complain about women becoming locked in as “second-class citizens” while men continued to dominate positions of control and influence. “I think women have to ask themselves, ‘Where does this stop?’” she said. “A lot of us wouldn’t be here right now if these practices had been in effect years ago.”

Ericsson, now 74, laughed when I read him these quotes from his old antagonist. Seldom has it been so easy to prove a dire prediction wrong. In the ’90s, when Ericsson looked into the numbers for the two dozen or so clinics that use his process, he discovered, to his surprise, that couples were requesting more girls than boys, a gap that has persisted, even though Ericsson advertises the method as more effective for producing boys. In some clinics, Ericsson has said, the ratio is now as high as 2 to 1. Polling data on American sex preference is sparse, and does not show a clear preference for girls. But the picture from the doctor’s office unambiguously does. A newer method for sperm selection, called MicroSort, is currently completing Food and Drug Administration clinical trials. The girl requests for that method run at about 75 percent.

Even more unsettling for Ericsson, it has become clear that in choosing the sex of the next generation, he is no longer the boss. “It’s the women who are driving all the decisions,” he says—a change the MicroSort spokespeople I met with also mentioned. At first, Ericsson says, women who called his clinics would apologize and shyly explain that they already had two boys. “Now they just call and [say] outright, ‘I want a girl.’ These mothers look at their lives and think their daughters will have a bright future their mother and grandmother didn’t have, brighter than their sons, even, so why wouldn’t you choose a girl?”

Why wouldn’t you choose a girl? That such a statement should be so casually uttered by an old cowboy like Ericsson—or by anyone, for that matter—is monumental. For nearly as long as civilization has existed, patriarchy—enforced through the rights of the firstborn son—has been the organizing principle, with few exceptions. Men in ancient Greece tied off their left testicle in an effort to produce male heirs; women have killed themselves (or been killed) for failing to bear sons. In her iconic 1949 book, TheSecond Sex, the French feminist Simone de Beauvoir suggested that women so detested their own “feminine condition” that they regarded their newborn daughters with irritation and disgust. Now the centuries-old preference for sons is eroding—or even reversing. “Women of our generation want daughters precisely because we like who we are,” breezes one woman in Cookie magazine. Even Ericsson, the stubborn old goat, can sigh and mark the passing of an era. “Did male dominance exist? Of course it existed. But it seems to be gone now. And the era of the firstborn son is totally gone.”

Ericsson’s extended family is as good an illustration of the rapidly shifting landscape as any other. His 26-year-old granddaughter—“tall, slender, brighter than hell, with a take-no-prisoners personality”—is a biochemist and works on genetic sequencing. His niece studied civil engineering at the University of Southern California. His grandsons, he says, are bright and handsome, but in school “their eyes glaze over. I have to tell ’em: ‘Just don’t screw up and crash your pickup truck and get some girl pregnant and ruin your life.’” Recently Ericsson joked with the old boys at his elementary-school reunion that he was going to have a sex-change operation. “Women live longer than men. They do better in this economy. More of ’em graduate from college. They go into space and do everything men do, and sometimes they do it a whole lot better. I mean, hell, get out of the way—these females are going to leave us males in the dust.”

Man has been the dominant sex since, well, the dawn of mankind. But for the first time in human history, that is changing—and with shocking speed. Cultural and economic changes always reinforce each other. And the global economy is evolving in a way that is eroding the historical preference for male children, worldwide. Over several centuries, South Korea, for instance, constructed one of the most rigid patriarchal societies in the world. Many wives who failed to produce male heirs were abused and treated as domestic servants; some families prayed to spirits to kill off girl children. Then, in the 1970s and ’80s, the government embraced an industrial revolution and encouraged women to enter the labor force. Women moved to the city and went to college. They advanced rapidly, from industrial jobs to clerical jobs to professional work. The traditional order began to crumble soon after. In 1990, the country’s laws were revised so that women could keep custody of their children after a divorce and inherit property. In 2005, the court ruled that women could register children under their own names. As recently as 1985, about half of all women in a national survey said they “must have a son.” That percentage fell slowly until 1991 and then plummeted to just over 15 percent by 2003. Male preference in South Korea “is over,” says Monica Das Gupta, a demographer and Asia expert at the World Bank. “It happened so fast. It’s hard to believe it, but it is.” The same shift is now beginning in other rapidly industrializing countries such as India and China.

Up to a point, the reasons behind this shift are obvious. As thinking and communicating have come to eclipse physical strength and stamina as the keys to economic success, those societies that take advantage of the talents of all their adults, not just half of them, have pulled away from the rest. And because geopolitics and global culture are, ultimately, Darwinian, other societies either follow suit or end up marginalized. In 2006, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development devised the Gender, Institutions and Development Database, which measures the economic and political power of women in 162 countries. With few exceptions, the greater the power of women, the greater the country’s economic success. Aid agencies have started to recognize this relationship and have pushed to institute political quotas in about 100 countries, essentially forcing women into power in an effort to improve those countries’ fortunes. In some war-torn states, women are stepping in as a sort of maternal rescue team. Liberia’s president, Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, portrayed her country as a sick child in need of her care during her campaign five years ago. Postgenocide Rwanda elected to heal itself by becoming the first country with a majority of women in parliament.

In feminist circles, these social, political, and economic changes are always cast as a slow, arduous form of catch-up in a continuing struggle for female equality. But in the U.S., the world’s most advanced economy, something much more remarkable seems to be happening. American parents are beginning to choose to have girls over boys. As they imagine the pride of watching a child grow and develop and succeed as an adult, it is more often a girl that they see in their mind’s eye.

What if the modern, postindustrial economy is simply more congenial to women than to men? For a long time, evolutionary psychologists have claimed that we are all imprinted with adaptive imperatives from a distant past: men are faster and stronger and hardwired to fight for scarce resources, and that shows up now as a drive to win on Wall Street; women are programmed to find good providers and to care for their offspring, and that is manifested in more- nurturing and more-flexible behavior, ordaining them to domesticity. This kind of thinking frames our sense of the natural order. But what if men and women were fulfilling not biological imperatives but social roles, based on what was more efficient throughout a long era of human history? What if that era has now come to an end? More to the point, what if the economics of the new era are better suited to women?

Once you open your eyes to this possibility, the evidence is all around you. It can be found, most immediately, in the wreckage of the Great Recession, in which three-quarters of the 8 million jobs lost were lost by men. The worst-hit industries were overwhelmingly male and deeply identified with macho: construction, manufacturing, high finance. Some of these jobs will come back, but the overall pattern of dislocation is neither temporary nor random. The recession merely revealed—and accelerated—a profound economic shift that has been going on for at least 30 years, and in some respects even longer.

Earlier this year, for the first time in American history, the balance of the workforce tipped toward women, who now hold a majority of the nation’s jobs. The working class, which has long defined our notions of masculinity, is slowly turning into a matriarchy, with men increasingly absent from the home and women making all the decisions. Women dominate today’s colleges and professional schools—for every two men who will receive a B.A. this year, three women will do the same. Of the 15 job categories projected to grow the most in the next decade in the U.S., all but two are occupied primarily by women. Indeed, the U.S. economy is in some ways becoming a kind of traveling sisterhood: upper-class women leave home and enter the workforce, creating domestic jobs for other women to fill.

The postindustrial economy is indifferent to men’s size and strength. The attributes that are most valuable today—social intelligence, open communication, the ability to sit still and focus—are, at a minimum, not predominantly male. In fact, the opposite may be true. Women in poor parts of India are learning English faster than men to meet the demands of new global call centers. Women own more than 40 percent of private businesses in China, where a red Ferrari is the new status symbol for female entrepreneurs. Last year, Iceland elected Prime Minister Johanna Sigurdardottir, the world’s first openly lesbian head of state, who campaigned explicitly against the male elite she claimed had destroyed the nation’s banking system, and who vowed to end the “age of testosterone.”

Yes, the U.S. still has a wage gap, one that can be convincingly explained—at least in part—by discrimination. Yes, women still do most of the child care. And yes, the upper reaches of society are still dominated by men. But given the power of the forces pushing at the economy, this setup feels like the last gasp of a dying age rather than the permanent establishment. Dozens of college women I interviewed for this story assumed that they very well might be the ones working while their husbands stayed at home, either looking for work or minding the children. Guys, one senior remarked to me, “are the new ball and chain.” It may be happening slowly and unevenly, but it’s unmistakably happening: in the long view, the modern economy is becoming a place where women hold the cards.

In his final book, The Bachelors’ Ball, published in 2007, the sociologist Pierre Bourdieu describes the changing gender dynamics of Béarn, the region in southwestern France where he grew up. The eldest sons once held the privileges of patrimonial loyalty and filial inheritance in Béarn. But over the decades, changing economic forces turned those privileges into curses. Although the land no longer produced the impressive income it once had, the men felt obligated to tend it. Meanwhile, modern women shunned farm life, lured away by jobs and adventure in the city. They occasionally returned for the traditional balls, but the men who awaited them had lost their prestige and become unmarriageable. This is the image that keeps recurring to me, one that Bourdieu describes in his book: at the bachelors’ ball, the men, self-conscious about their diminished status, stand stiffly, their hands by their sides, as the women twirl away.

The role reversal that’s under way between American men and women shows up most obviously and painfully in the working class. In recent years, male support groups have sprung up throughout the Rust Belt and in other places where the postindustrial economy has turned traditional family roles upside down. Some groups help men cope with unemployment, and others help them reconnect with their alienated families. Mustafaa El-Scari, a teacher and social worker, leads some of these groups in Kansas City. El-Scari has studied the sociology of men and boys set adrift, and he considers it his special gift to get them to open up and reflect on their new condition. The day I visited one of his classes, earlier this year, he was facing a particularly resistant crowd.

None of the 30 or so men sitting in a classroom at a downtown Kansas City school have come for voluntary adult enrichment. Having failed to pay their child support, they were given the choice by a judge to go to jail or attend a weekly class on fathering, which to them seemed the better deal. This week’s lesson, from a workbook called Quenching the Father Thirst, was supposed to involve writing a letter to a hypothetical estranged 14-year-old daughter named Crystal, whose father left her when she was a baby. But El-Scari has his own idea about how to get through to this barely awake, skeptical crew, and letters to Crystal have nothing to do with it.

Like them, he explains, he grew up watching Bill Cosby living behind his metaphorical “white picket fence”—one man, one woman, and a bunch of happy kids. “Well, that check bounced a long time ago,” he says. “Let’s see,” he continues, reading from a worksheet. What are the four kinds of paternal authority? Moral, emotional, social, and physical. “But you ain’t none of those in that house. All you are is a paycheck, and now you ain’t even that. And if you try to exercise your authority, she’ll call 911. How does that make you feel? You’re supposed to be the authority, and she says, ‘Get out of the house, bitch.’ She’s calling you ‘bitch’!”

The men are black and white, their ages ranging from about 20 to 40. A couple look like they might have spent a night or two on the streets, but the rest look like they work, or used to. Now they have put down their sodas, and El-Scari has their attention, so he gets a little more philosophical. “Who’s doing what?” he asks them. “What is our role? Everyone’s telling us we’re supposed to be the head of a nuclear family, so you feel like you got robbed. It’s toxic, and poisonous, and it’s setting us up for failure.” He writes on the board: $85,000. “This is her salary.” Then: $12,000. “This is your salary. Who’s the damn man? Who’s the man now?” A murmur rises. “That’s right. She’s the man.”

Judging by the men I spoke with afterward, El-Scari seemed to have pegged his audience perfectly. Darren Henderson was making $33 an hour laying sheet metal, until the real-estate crisis hit and he lost his job. Then he lost his duplex—“there’s my little piece of the American dream”—then his car. And then he fell behind on his child-support payments. “They make it like I’m just sitting around,” he said, “but I’m not.” As proof of his efforts, he took out a new commercial driver’s permit and a bartending license, and then threw them down on the ground like jokers, for all the use they’d been. His daughter’s mother had a $50,000-a-year job and was getting her master’s degree in social work. He’d just signed up for food stamps, which is just about the only social-welfare program a man can easily access. Recently she’d seen him waiting at the bus stop. “Looked me in the eye,” he recalled, “and just drove on by.”

The men in that room, almost without exception, were casualties of the end of the manufacturing era. Most of them had continued to work with their hands even as demand for manual labor was declining. Since 2000, manufacturing has lost almost 6 million jobs, more than a third of its total workforce, and has taken in few young workers. The housing bubble masked this new reality for a while, creating work in construction and related industries. Many of the men I spoke with had worked as electricians or builders; one had been a successful real-estate agent. Now those jobs are gone too. Henderson spent his days shuttling between unemployment offices and job interviews, wondering what his daughter might be doing at any given moment. In 1950, roughly one in 20 men of prime working age, like Henderson, was not working; today that ratio is about one in five, the highest ever recorded.

Men dominate just two of the 15 job categories projected to grow the most over the next decade: janitor and computer engineer. Women have everything else—nursing, home health assistance, child care, food preparation. Many of the new jobs, says Heather Boushey of the Center for American Progress, “replace the things that women used to do in the home for free.” None is especially high-paying. But the steady accumulation of these jobs adds up to an economy that, for the working class, has become more amenable to women than to men.

The list of growing jobs is heavy on nurturing professions, in which women, ironically, seem to benefit from old stereotypes and habits. Theoretically, there is no reason men should not be qualified. But they have proved remarkably unable to adapt. Over the course of the past century, feminism has pushed women to do things once considered against their nature—first enter the workforce as singles, then continue to work while married, then work even with small children at home. Many professions that started out as the province of men are now filled mostly with women—secretary and teacher come to mind. Yet I’m not aware of any that have gone the opposite way. Nursing schools have tried hard to recruit men in the past few years, with minimal success. Teaching schools, eager to recruit male role models, are having a similarly hard time. The range of acceptable masculine roles has changed comparatively little, and has perhaps even narrowed as men have shied away from some careers women have entered. As Jessica Grose wrote in Slate, men seem “fixed in cultural aspic.” And with each passing day, they lag further behind.

As we recover from the Great Recession, some traditionally male jobs will return—men are almost always harder-hit than women in economic downturns because construction and manufacturing are more cyclical than service industries—but that won’t change the long-term trend. When we look back on this period, argues Jamie Ladge, a business professor at Northeastern University, we will see it as a “turning point for women in the workforce.”

The economic and cultural power shift from men to women would be hugely significant even if it never extended beyond working-class America. But women are also starting to dominate middle management, and a surprising number of professional careers as well. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, women now hold 51.4 percent of managerial and professional jobs—up from 26.1 percent in 1980. They make up 54 percent of all accountants and hold about half of all banking and insurance jobs. About a third of America’s physicians are now women, as are 45 percent of associates in law firms—and both those percentages are rising fast. A white-collar economy values raw intellectual horsepower, which men and women have in equal amounts. It also requires communication skills and social intelligence, areas in which women, according to many studies, have a slight edge. Perhaps most important—for better or worse—it increasingly requires formal education credentials, which women are more prone to acquire, particularly early in adulthood. Just about the only professions in which women still make up a relatively small minority of newly minted workers are engineering and those calling on a hard-science background, and even in those areas, women have made strong gains since the 1970s.

Office work has been steadily adapting to women—and in turn being reshaped by them—for 30 years or more. Joel Garreau picks up on this phenomenon in his 1991 book, Edge City, which explores the rise of suburbs that are home to giant swaths of office space along with the usual houses and malls. Companies began moving out of the city in search not only of lower rent but also of the “best educated, most conscientious, most stable workers.” They found their brightest prospects among “underemployed females living in middle-class communities on the fringe of the old urban areas.” As Garreau chronicles the rise of suburban office parks, he places special emphasis on 1978, the peak year for women entering the workforce. When brawn was off the list of job requirements, women often measured up better than men. They were smart, dutiful, and, as long as employers could make the jobs more convenient for them, more reliable. The 1999 movie Office Space was maybe the first to capture how alien and dispiriting the office park can be for men. Disgusted by their jobs and their boss, Peter and his two friends embezzle money and start sleeping through their alarm clocks. At the movie’s end, a male co-worker burns down the office park, and Peter abandons desk work for a job in construction.

Near the top of the jobs pyramid, of course, the upward march of women stalls. Prominent female CEOs, past and present, are so rare that they count as minor celebrities, and most of us can tick off their names just from occasionally reading the business pages: Meg Whitman at eBay, Carly Fiorina at Hewlett-Packard, Anne Mulcahy and Ursula Burns at Xerox, Indra Nooyi at PepsiCo; the accomplishment is considered so extraordinary that Whitman and Fiorina are using it as the basis for political campaigns. Only 3 percent of Fortune 500 CEOs are women, and the number has never risen much above that.

But even the way this issue is now framed reveals that men’s hold on power in elite circles may be loosening. In business circles, the lack of women at the top is described as a “brain drain” and a crisis of “talent retention.” And while female CEOs may be rare in America’s largest companies, they are highly prized: last year, they outearned their male counterparts by 43 percent, on average, and received bigger raises.

Even around the delicate question of working mothers, the terms of the conversation are shifting. Last year, in a story about breast-feeding, I complained about how the early years of child rearing keep women out of power positions. But the term mommy track is slowly morphing into the gender-neutral flex time, reflecting changes in the workforce. For recent college graduates of both sexes, flexible arrangements are at the top of the list of workplace demands, according to a study published last year in the Harvard Business Review. And companies eager to attract and retain talented workers and managers are responding. The consulting firm Deloitte, for instance, started what’s now considered the model program, called Mass Career Customization, which allows employees to adjust their hours depending on their life stage. The program, Deloitte’s Web site explains, solves “a complex issue—one that can no longer be classified as a woman’s issue.”

“Women are knocking on the door of leadership at the very moment when their talents are especially well matched with the requirements of the day,” writes David Gergen in the introduction to Enlightened Power: How Women Are Transforming the Practice of Leadership. What are these talents? Once it was thought that leaders should be aggressive and competitive, and that men are naturally more of both. But psychological research has complicated this picture. In lab studies that simulate negotiations, men and women are just about equally assertive and competitive, with slight variations. Men tend to assert themselves in a controlling manner, while women tend to take into account the rights of others, but both styles are equally effective, write the psychologists Alice Eagly and Linda Carli, in their 2007 book, Through the Labyrinth.

Over the years, researchers have sometimes exaggerated these differences and described the particular talents of women in crude gender stereotypes: women as more empathetic, as better consensus-seekers and better lateral thinkers; women as bringing a superior moral sensibility to bear on a cutthroat business world. In the ’90s, this field of feminist business theory seemed to be forcing the point. But after the latest financial crisis, these ideas have more resonance. Researchers have started looking into the relationship between testosterone and excessive risk, and wondering if groups of men, in some basic hormonal way, spur each other to make reckless decisions. The picture emerging is a mirror image of the traditional gender map: men and markets on the side of the irrational and overemotional, and women on the side of the cool and levelheaded.

We don’t yet know with certainty whether testosterone strongly influences business decision-making. But the perception of the ideal business leader is starting to shift. The old model of command and control, with one leader holding all the decision-making power, is considered hidebound. The new model is sometimes called “post-heroic,” or “transformational” in the words of the historian and leadership expert James MacGregor Burns. The aim is to behave like a good coach, and channel your charisma to motivate others to be hardworking and creative. The model is not explicitly defined as feminist, but it echoes literature about male-female differences. A program at Columbia Business School, for example, teaches sensitive leadership and social intelligence, including better reading of facial expressions and body language. “We never explicitly say, ‘Develop your feminine side,’ but it’s clear that’s what we’re advocating,” says Jamie Ladge.

A 2008 study attempted to quantify the effect of this more-feminine management style. Researchers at Columbia Business School and the University of Maryland analyzed data on the top 1,500 U.S. companies from 1992 to 2006 to determine the relationship between firm performance and female participation in senior management. Firms that had women in top positions performed better, and this was especially true if the firm pursued what the researchers called an “innovation intensive strategy,” in which, they argued, “creativity and collaboration may be especially important”—an apt description of the future economy.

It could be that women boost corporate performance, or it could be that better-performing firms have the luxury of recruiting and keeping high-potential women. But the association is clear: innovative, successful firms are the ones that promote women. The same Columbia-Maryland study ranked America’s industries by the proportion of firms that employed female executives, and the bottom of the list reads like the ghosts of the economy past: shipbuilding, real estate, coal, steelworks, machinery.

IF YOU REALLY want to see where the world is headed, of course, looking at the current workforce can get you only so far. To see the future—of the workforce, the economy, and the culture—you need to spend some time at America’s colleges and professional schools, where a quiet revolution is under way. More than ever, college is the gateway to economic success, a necessary precondition for moving into the upper-middle class—and increasingly even the middle class. It’s this broad, striving middle class that defines our society. And demographically, we can see with absolute clarity that in the coming decades the middle class will be dominated by women.

We’ve all heard about the collegiate gender gap. But the implications of that gap have not yet been fully digested. Women now earn 60 percent of master’s degrees, about half of all law and medical degrees, and 42 percent of all M.B.A.s. Most important, women earn almost 60 percent of all bachelor’s degrees—the minimum requirement, in most cases, for an affluent life. In a stark reversal since the 1970s, men are now more likely than women to hold only a high-school diploma. “One would think that if men were acting in a rational way, they would be getting the education they need to get along out there,” says Tom Mortenson, a senior scholar at the Pell Institute for the Study of Opportunity in Higher Education. “But they are just failing to adapt.”

This spring, I visited a few schools around Kansas City to get a feel for the gender dynamics of higher education. I started at the downtown campus of Metropolitan Community College. Metropolitan is the kind of place where people go to learn practical job skills and keep current with the changing economy, and as in most community colleges these days, men were conspicuously absent. One afternoon, in the basement cafeteria of a nearly windowless brick building, several women were trying to keep their eyes on their biology textbook and ignore the text messages from their babysitters. Another crew was outside the ladies’ room, braiding each other’s hair. One woman, still in her medical-assistant scrubs, looked like she was about to fall asleep in the elevator between the first and fourth floors.

When Bernard Franklin took over as campus president in 2005, he looked around and told his staff early on that their new priority was to “recruit more boys.” He set up mentoring programs and men-only study groups and student associations. He made a special effort to bond with male students, who liked to call him “Suit.” “It upset some of my feminists,” he recalls. Yet, a few years later, the tidal wave of women continues to wash through the school—they now make up about 70 percent of its students. They come to train to be nurses and teachers—African American women, usually a few years older than traditional college students, and lately, working-class white women from the suburbs seeking a cheap way to earn a credential. As for the men? Well, little has changed. “I recall one guy who was really smart,” one of the school’s counselors told me. “But he was reading at a sixth-grade level and felt embarrassed in front of the women. He had to hide his books from his friends, who would tease him when he studied. Then came the excuses. ‘It’s spring, gotta play ball.’ ‘It’s winter, too cold.’ He didn’t make it.”

It makes some economic sense that women attend community colleges—and in fact, all colleges—in greater numbers than men. Women ages 25 to 34 with only a high-school diploma currently have a median income of $25,474, while men in the same position earn $32,469. But it makes sense only up to a point. The well-paid lifetime union job has been disappearing for at least 30 years. Kansas City, for example, has shifted from steel manufacturing to pharmaceuticals and information technologies. “The economy isn’t as friendly to men as it once was,” says Jacqueline King, of the American Council on Education. “You would think men and women would go to these colleges at the same rate.” But they don’t.

In 2005, King’s group conducted a survey of lower-income adults in college. Men, it turned out, had a harder time committing to school, even when they desperately needed to retool. They tended to start out behind academically, and many felt intimidated by the schoolwork. They reported feeling isolated and were much worse at seeking out fellow students, study groups, or counselors to help them adjust. Mothers going back to school described themselves as good role models for their children. Fathers worried that they were abrogating their responsibilities as breadwinner.

The student gender gap started to feel like a crisis to some people in higher-education circles in the mid-2000s, when it began showing up not just in community and liberal-arts colleges but in the flagship public universities—the UCs and the SUNYs and the UNCs. Like many of those schools, the University of Missouri at Kansas City, a full research university with more than 13,000 students, is now tipping toward 60 percent women, a level many admissions officers worry could permanently shift the atmosphere and reputation of a school. In February, I visited with Ashley Burress, UMKC’s student-body president. (The other three student-government officers this school year were also women.) Burress, a cute, short, African American 24-year-old grad student who is getting a doctor-of-pharmacy degree, had many of the same complaints I heard from other young women. Guys high-five each other when they get a C, while girls beat themselves up over a B-minus. Guys play video games in each other’s rooms, while girls crowd the study hall. Girls get their degrees with no drama, while guys seem always in danger of drifting away. “In 2012, I will be Dr. Burress,” she said. “Will I have to deal with guys who don’t even have a bachelor’s degree? I would like to date, but I’m putting myself in a really small pool.”

UMKC is a working- and middle-class school—the kind of place where traditional sex roles might not be anathema. Yet as I talked to students this spring, I realized how much the basic expectations for men and women had shifted. Many of the women’s mothers had established their careers later in life, sometimes after a divorce, and they had urged their daughters to get to their own careers more quickly. They would be a campus of Tracy Flicks, except that they seemed neither especially brittle nor secretly falling apart.

Victoria, Michelle, and Erin are sorority sisters. Victoria’s mom is a part-time bartender at a hotel. Victoria is a biology major and wants to be a surgeon; soon she’ll apply to a bunch of medical schools. She doesn’t want kids for a while, because she knows she’ll “be at the hospital, like, 100 hours a week,” and when she does have kids, well, she’ll “be the hotshot surgeon, and he”—a nameless he—“will be at home playing with the kiddies.”

Michelle, a self-described “perfectionist,” also has her life mapped out. She’s a psychology major and wants to be a family therapist. After college, she will apply to grad school and look for internships. She is well aware of the career-counseling resources on campus. And her fiancé?

MICHELLE: He’s changed majors, like, 16 times. Last week he wanted to be a dentist. This week it’s environmental science.

ERIN: Did he switch again this week? When you guys have kids, he’ll definitely stay home. Seriously, what does he want to do?

MICHELLE: It depends on the day of the week. Remember last year? It was bio. It really is a joke. But it’s not. It’s funny, but it’s not.
Among traditional college students from the highest-income families, the gender gap pretty much disappears. But the story is not so simple. Wealthier students tend to go to elite private schools, and elite private schools live by their own rules. Quietly, they’ve been opening up a new frontier in affirmative action, with boys playing the role of the underprivileged applicants needing an extra boost. In 2003, a study by the economists Sandy Baum and Eban Goodstein found that among selective liberal-arts schools, being male raises the chance of college acceptance by 6.5 to 9 percentage points. Now the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights has voted to investigate what some academics have described as the “open secret” that private schools “are discriminating in admissions in order to maintain what they regard as an appropriate gender balance.”

Jennifer Delahunty, the dean of admissions and financial aid at Kenyon College, in Ohio, let this secret out in a 2006 New York Times op-ed. Gender balance, she wrote back then, is the elephant in the room. And today, she told me, the problem hasn’t gone away. A typical female applicant, she said, manages the process herself—lines up the interviews, sets up a campus visit, requests a visit with faculty members. But the college has seen more than one male applicant “sit back on the couch, sometimes with their eyes closed, while their mom tells them where to go and what to do. Sometimes we say, ‘What a nice essay his mom wrote,’” she said, in that funny-but-not vein.

To avoid crossing the dreaded 60 percent threshold, admissions officers have created a language to explain away the boys’ deficits: “Brain hasn’t kicked in yet.” “Slow to cook.” “Hasn’t quite peaked.” “Holistic picture.” At times Delahunty has become so worried about “overeducated females” and “undereducated males” that she jokes she is getting conspiratorial. She once called her sister, a pediatrician, to vet her latest theory: “Maybe these boys are genetically like canaries in a coal mine, absorbing so many toxins and bad things in the environment that their DNA is shifting. Maybe they’re like those frogs—they’re more vulnerable or something, so they’ve gotten deformed.”

Clearly, some percentage of boys are just temperamentally unsuited to college, at least at age 18 or 20, but without it, they have a harder time finding their place these days. “Forty years ago, 30 years ago, if you were one of the fairly constant fraction of boys who wasn’t ready to learn in high school, there were ways for you to enter the mainstream economy,” says Henry Farber, an economist at Princeton. “When you woke up, there were jobs. There were good industrial jobs, so you could have a good industrial, blue-collar career. Now those jobs are gone.”

Since the 1980s, as women have flooded colleges, male enrollment has grown far more slowly. And the disparities start before college. Throughout the ’90s, various authors and researchers agonized over why boys seemed to be failing at every level of education, from elementary school on up, and identified various culprits: a misguided feminism that treated normal boys as incipient harassers (Christina Hoff Sommers); different brain chemistry (Michael Gurian); a demanding, verbally focused curriculum that ignored boys’ interests (Richard Whitmire). But again, it’s not all that clear that boys have become more dysfunctional—or have changed in any way. What’s clear is that schools, like the economy, now value the self-control, focus, and verbal aptitude that seem to come more easily to young girls.

Researchers have suggested any number of solutions. A movement is growing for more all-boys schools and classes, and for respecting the individual learning styles of boys. Some people think that boys should be able to walk around in class, or take more time on tests, or have tests and books that cater to their interests. In their desperation to reach out to boys, some colleges have formed football teams and started engineering programs. Most of these special accommodations sound very much like the kind of affirmative action proposed for women over the years—which in itself is an alarming flip.

Whether boys have changed or not, we are well past the time to start trying some experiments. It is fabulous to see girls and young women poised for success in the coming years. But allowing generations of boys to grow up feeling rootless and obsolete is not a recipe for a peaceful future. Men have few natural support groups and little access to social welfare; the men’s-rights groups that do exist in the U.S. are taking on an angry, antiwoman edge. Marriages fall apart or never happen at all, and children are raised with no fathers. Far from being celebrated, women’s rising power is perceived as a threat.

WHAT WOULD A SOCIETY in which women are on top look like? We already have an inkling. This is the first time that the cohort of Americans ages 30 to 44 has more college-educated women than college-educated men, and the effects are upsetting the traditional Cleaver-family dynamics. In 1970, women contributed 2 to 6 percent of the family income. Now the typical working wife brings home 42.2 percent, and four in 10 mothers—many of them single mothers—are the primary breadwinners in their families. The whole question of whether mothers should work is moot, argues Heather Boushey of the Center for American Progress, “because they just do. This idealized family—he works, she stays home—hardly exists anymore.”

The terms of marriage have changed radically since 1970. Typically, women’s income has been the main factor in determining whether a family moves up the class ladder or stays stagnant. And increasing numbers of women—unable to find men with a similar income and education—are forgoing marriage altogether. In 1970, 84 percent of women ages 30 to 44 were married; now 60 percent are. In 2007, among American women without a high-school diploma, 43 percent were married. And yet, for all the hand-wringing over the lonely spinster, the real loser in society—the only one to have made just slight financial gains since the 1970s—is the single man, whether poor or rich, college-educated or not. Hens rejoice; it’s the bachelor party that’s over.

The sociologist Kathryn Edin spent five years talking with low-income mothers in the inner suburbs of Philadelphia. Many of these neighborhoods, she found, had turned into matriarchies, with women making all the decisions and dictating what the men should and should not do. “I think something feminists have missed,” Edin told me, “is how much power women have” when they’re not bound by marriage. The women, she explained, “make every important decision”—whether to have a baby, how to raise it, where to live. “It’s definitely ‘my way or the highway,’” she said. “Thirty years ago, cultural norms were such that the fathers might have said, ‘Great, catch me if you can.’ Now they are desperate to father, but they are pessimistic about whether they can meet her expectations.” The women don’t want them as husbands, and they have no steady income to provide. So what do they have?

“Nothing,” Edin says. “They have nothing. The men were just annihilated in the recession of the ’90s, and things never got better. Now it’s just awful.”

The situation today is not, as Edin likes to say, a “feminist nirvana.” The phenomenon of children being born to unmarried parents “has spread to barrios and trailer parks and rural areas and small towns,” Edin says, and it is creeping up the class ladder. After staying steady for a while, the portion of American children born to unmarried parents jumped to 40 percent in the past few years. Many of their mothers are struggling financially; the most successful are working and going to school and hustling to feed the children, and then falling asleep in the elevator of the community college.

Still, they are in charge. “The family changes over the past four decades have been bad for men and bad for kids, but it’s not clear they are bad for women,” says W. Bradford Wilcox, the head of the University of Virginia’s National Marriage Project.

Over the years, researchers have proposed different theories to explain the erosion of marriage in the lower classes: the rise of welfare, or the disappearance of work and thus of marriageable men. But Edin thinks the most compelling theory is that marriage has disappeared because women are setting the terms—and setting them too high for the men around them to reach. “I want that white-picket-fence dream,” one woman told Edin, and the men she knew just didn’t measure up, so she had become her own one-woman mother/father/nurturer/provider. The whole country’s future could look much as the present does for many lower-class African Americans: the mothers pull themselves up, but the men don’t follow. First-generation college-educated white women may join their black counterparts in a new kind of middle class, where marriage is increasingly rare.

As the traditional order has been upended, signs of the profound disruption have popped up in odd places. Japan is in a national panic over the rise of the “herbivores,” the cohort of young men who are rejecting the hard-drinking salaryman life of their fathers and are instead gardening, organizing dessert parties, acting cartoonishly feminine, and declining to have sex. The generational young-women counterparts are known in Japan as the “carnivores,” or sometimes the “hunters.”

American pop culture keeps producing endless variations on the omega male, who ranks even below the beta in the wolf pack. This often-unemployed, romantically challenged loser can show up as a perpetual adolescent (in Judd Apatow’s Knocked Up or The 40-Year-Old Virgin), or a charmless misanthrope (in Noah Baumbach’s Greenberg), or a happy couch potato (in a Bud Light commercial). He can be sweet, bitter, nostalgic, or cynical, but he cannot figure out how to be a man. “We call each other ‘man,’” says Ben Stiller’s character in Greenberg, “but it’s a joke. It’s like imitating other people.” The American male novelist, meanwhile, has lost his mojo and entirely given up on sex as a way for his characters to assert macho dominance, Katie Roiphe explains in her essay “The Naked and the Conflicted.” Instead, she writes, “the current sexual style is more childlike; innocence is more fashionable than virility, the cuddle preferable to sex.”

At the same time, a new kind of alpha female has appeared, stirring up anxiety and, occasionally, fear. The cougar trope started out as a joke about desperate older women. Now it’s gone mainstream, even in Hollywood, home to the 50-something producer with a starlet on his arm. Susan Sarandon and Demi Moore have boy toys, and Aaron Johnson, the 19-year-old star of Kick-Ass, is a proud boy toy for a woman 24 years his senior. The New York Times columnist Gail Collins recently wrote that the cougar phenomenon is beginning to look like it’s not about desperate women at all but about “desperate young American men who are latching on to an older woman who’s a good earner.” Up in the Air, a movie set against the backdrop of recession-era layoffs, hammers home its point about the shattered ego of the American man. A character played by George Clooney is called too old to be attractive by his younger female colleague and is later rejected by an older woman whom he falls in love with after she sleeps with him—and who turns out to be married. George Clooney! If the sexiest man alive can get twice rejected (and sexually played) in a movie, what hope is there for anyone else? The message to American men is summarized by the title of a recent offering from the romantic-comedy mill: She’s Out of My League.

In fact, the more women dominate, the more they behave, fittingly, like the dominant sex. Rates of violence committed by middle-aged women have skyrocketed since the 1980s, and no one knows why. High-profile female killers have been showing up regularly in the news: Amy Bishop, the homicidal Alabama professor; Jihad Jane and her sidekick, Jihad Jamie; the latest generation of Black Widows, responsible for suicide bombings in Russia. In Roman Polanski’s The Ghost Writer, the traditional political wife is rewritten as a cold-blooded killer at the heart of an evil conspiracy. In her recent video Telephone, Lady Gaga, with her infallible radar for the cultural edge, rewrites Thelma and Louise as a story not about elusive female empowerment but about sheer, ruthless power. Instead of killing themselves, she and her girlfriend (played by Beyoncé) kill a bad boyfriend and random others in a homicidal spree and then escape in their yellow pickup truck, Gaga bragging, “We did it, Honey B.”

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Friends, countrypersons, I say unto you this day, as a proud member of the male gender ... derp!


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Postby Falling » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:16 pm UTC

I just scanned through the articles. The most insulting part to me (a man)?
The implication being religious is a measure of superiority. Shouldn't that be a check in the men's column?

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Postby Xeio » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:17 pm UTC

sourmìlk wrote:Cheezwhiz, cheezwhiz, that was quite a rant. There are clear areas in which females are performing better than males. Why is noting gender inequality so horrible?
You can do a lot of things that are all well and good, but still do them in profoundly stupid ways. This would definitely be one of those ways.

Seriously though, religion is required to be successful? What? And as has been noted, women haven't even made up the current wage gap, we'll see about pay rates once those are actually equal...

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Postby philsov » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:18 pm UTC

I don't see how playing video games is detrimental compared to other past times such as; drinking, watching sports, illegally racing your car, watching t.v, or complaining.


It just means it's a generally more desired hobby than paying attention to women.

C'mon women -- step it up. :twisted:
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sourmìlk wrote:Cheezwhiz, cheezwhiz, that was quite a rant. There are clear areas in which females are performing better than males. Why is noting gender inequality so horrible?
You can do a lot of things that are all well and good, but still do them in profoundly stupid ways. This would definitely be one of those ways.

Seriously though, religion is required to be successful? What? And as has been noted, women are barely making up the current wage gap, we'll see about pay rates once those are actually equal...


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Postby sourmìlk » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:21 pm UTC

kiklion wrote:I found that line about women's salaries growing faster, and if the trend continues how they will pass men's salaries hilarious. #1, That is not a bad thing. If it is disproportionately set that may be bad, but even then if men continue to work manual labour positions and women rise in the ranks of intellectual positions (traditionally higher earning jobs) then women's average pay should be quite a bit higher than a man's. #2, If women originally earned on average, 1,000 a month and men earned 10,000 a month. And then next year men on average earned 10,010 a month vs women's 1,020... if that trend continues women may earn more eventually!

Gender inequality is bad. I'm not sue why you think it's okay if women are doing better than men.

The entire part about religion could have been left out for a slightly more convincing argument. There are vile religious people, there are nice atheists.

Yeah, I thought that was idiotic.

I don't see how playing video games is detrimental compared to other past times such as; drinking, watching sports, illegally racing your car, watching t.v, or complaining.

Also idiotic. That was just playing on baseless stigma of a newly popular medium.

I don't have anything against the ERA.... but I don't see how it is necessary. Is male sexism codified in the law somewhere? (ignoring outdated laws that no one listens to that fell through the cracks and were never updated. Example: It is illegal to eat ice cream in the winter in alabama. Or something else that sounds made up)

I'm not quite sure I get it: gender discrimination is subject to intermediate scrutiny in the US courts. How would this change that? And doesn't the 14th amendment essentially guarantee equality in general?
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Postby Garm » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:21 pm UTC

Women make a lot less then men on a high school education so while stopping with high school is a valid option for men, college has become a much more attractive option for women. That's why the majority of degrees go to women now, not video games. What a maroon.
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Postby Dauric » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:24 pm UTC

I won't quibble that the articles are less than ideal to discuss the issues at hand, but they do present some interesting information vis-a-vis education and employment. Top wage earners are going to be the last areas to see this change because it takes time for people to move through the ranks. Give it 20 years or so and that 60% of undergraduate degrees is going to start showing up at the upper rungs of management because they'll be the ones with the qualifications.

Problem is if you wait 20 years to discuss how male participation in education is dropping you'll be dealing with a generation or two where more than a quarter of the population will think that education isn't "manly", and as such will be nigh impossible to train to operate advanced computer and robotic systems because it threatens the mental image of what makes up their penis. When all the jobs that required "Manly Muscle" are taken by robots that media and pop-culture reinforced machismo will be a detriment. At that point college degrees will be popular among male students (or even mandatory if the education requirements of the society have moved that far) but the damage will be done and the fix won't shift the demographics for- another- two decades.

The above being a hypothetical and potentially hyperbolic situation, but illustrative of the issue of putting off the discussion entirely.
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Postby Iulus Cofield » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:25 pm UTC

Garm wrote:Women make a lot less then men on a high school education so while stopping with high school is a valid option for men, college has become a much more attractive option for women. That's why the majority of degrees go to women now, not video games. What a maroon.


Things like this being pointed out is why I posted the article. Very interesting.

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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby Dark567 » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:25 pm UTC

Xeio wrote:Seriously though, religion is required to be successful? What?
In some places atheism is seriously looked down upon.

It also wouldn't surprise me if religion correlated with hard-workers for some reason(anecdotal experience I think).
Falling wrote:I just scanned through the articles. The most insulting part to me (a man)?
The implication being religious is a measure of superiority. Shouldn't that be a check in the men's column?
That was my thought too... This has clearly also been a problem in my dating life... but that's another topic.

Garm wrote:Women make a lot less then men on a high school education so while stopping with high school is a valid option for men, college has become a much more attractive option for women. That's why the majority of degrees go to women now, not video games. What a maroon.
Although I think your right here, I think the jobs generally associated with men with only a high school diploma are being lost a lot faster then the ones associated with women. So although they might make more, they are also more likely to be unemployed.
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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby ShootTheChicken » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:27 pm UTC

There may be some valid points buried beneath the shit about needing religion, and how being married is so unbelievably important, and how video games and maturity are mutually exclusive things.

The article was... poor.

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Postby Nordic Einar » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:37 pm UTC

sourmìlk wrote:
kiklion wrote:I found that line about women's salaries growing faster, and if the trend continues how they will pass men's salaries hilarious. #1, That is not a bad thing. If it is disproportionately set that may be bad, but even then if men continue to work manual labour positions and women rise in the ranks of intellectual positions (traditionally higher earning jobs) then women's average pay should be quite a bit higher than a man's. #2, If women originally earned on average, 1,000 a month and men earned 10,000 a month. And then next year men on average earned 10,010 a month vs women's 1,020... if that trend continues women may earn more eventually!

Gender inequality is bad. I'm not sue why you think it's okay if women are doing better than men.


Because men losing employment in outdated manufacturing sectors and manual labor during a recession (thus falling below as a sex in aggregate employment) != men are now the oppressed or unequal sex. Nor does the growth of women's salaries to ALMOST that of a man's equate to men doing "worse" than women.

The entire fucking premise is asinine and is used to erase or whitewash the generations of systematic oppression of women.

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Postby IcedT » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:39 pm UTC

I particularly enjoyed how the author says religion and marriage lead to higher educational and professional achievement like it's totally obvious and requires no evidence.

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Garm wrote:Women make a lot less then men on a high school education so while stopping with high school is a valid option for men, college has become a much more attractive option for women. That's why the majority of degrees go to women now, not video games. What a maroon.


Things like this being pointed out is why I posted the article. Very interesting.

I seem to recall a statistic from a talk on the economy that I watched(I will try to track it down) showing that in the same region (united states) it was almost universally believed that a degree was REQUIRED for success. The statistic made no discrimination between males or females, as I recall. I know that in my area (Alberta, Canada), males KNOW there is money in the oilpatch, and believe they can get it without significant training (heavy machine operating or drilling and such). We do have more females than males being educated.

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Postby sourmìlk » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:42 pm UTC

Nobody here or in the article is suggesting that historical sexism was okay. But if there's gender in equality coming up, whether or not it's based on oppression or incompetence, that isn't good.
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Dark: thank you for posting that article from the atlantic. It reminded me that I had seen that article before, and read a counter point by point rebuttal to it, here.
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Postby Iulus Cofield » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:50 pm UTC

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sourmìlk wrote:
kiklion wrote:I found that line about women's salaries growing faster, and if the trend continues how they will pass men's salaries hilarious. #1, That is not a bad thing. If it is disproportionately set that may be bad, but even then if men continue to work manual labour positions and women rise in the ranks of intellectual positions (traditionally higher earning jobs) then women's average pay should be quite a bit higher than a man's. #2, If women originally earned on average, 1,000 a month and men earned 10,000 a month. And then next year men on average earned 10,010 a month vs women's 1,020... if that trend continues women may earn more eventually!

Gender inequality is bad. I'm not sue why you think it's okay if women are doing better than men.


Because men losing employment in outdated manufacturing sectors and manual labor during a recession (thus falling below as a sex in aggregate employment) != men are now the oppressed or unequal sex. Nor does the growth of women's salaries to ALMOST that of a man's equate to men doing "worse" than women.
The entire fucking premise is asinine and is used to erase or whitewash the generations of systematic oppression of women.


What do think of this (from the Atlantic article Dark567 posted?

To avoid crossing the dreaded 60 percent threshold, admissions officers have created a language to explain away the boys’ deficits: “Brain hasn’t kicked in yet.” “Slow to cook.” “Hasn’t quite peaked.” “Holistic picture.” At times Delahunty has become so worried about “overeducated females” and “undereducated males” that she jokes she is getting conspiratorial. She once called her sister, a pediatrician, to vet her latest theory: “Maybe these boys are genetically like canaries in a coal mine, absorbing so many toxins and bad things in the environment that their DNA is shifting. Maybe they’re like those frogs—they’re more vulnerable or something, so they’ve gotten deformed.”

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The sociologist Kathryn Edin spent five years talking with low-income mothers in the inner suburbs of Philadelphia. Many of these neighborhoods, she found, had turned into matriarchies, with women making all the decisions and dictating what the men should and should not do. “I think something feminists have missed,” Edin told me, “is how much power women have” when they’re not bound by marriage. The women, she explained, “make every important decision”—whether to have a baby, how to raise it, where to live. “It’s definitely ‘my way or the highway,’” she said. “Thirty years ago, cultural norms were such that the fathers might have said, ‘Great, catch me if you can.’ Now they are desperate to father, but they are pessimistic about whether they can meet her expectations.” The women don’t want them as husbands, and they have no steady income to provide. So what do they have?

“Nothing,” Edin says. “They have nothing. The men were just annihilated in the recession of the ’90s, and things never got better. Now it’s just awful.”


You don't think it's the slightest bit possible that there is a trend of men being economic liabilities who can't get married?

Edit: Ninja'd. Reading your article now, Jessica. Um. I really don't know what to say. There was a lot of swearing and yelling and saying things were wrong. I don't quite see how it was a "point by point rebuttal".

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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby Dark567 » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:10 pm UTC

Jessica wrote:Dark: thank you for posting that article from the atlantic. It reminded me that I had seen that article before, and read a counter point by point rebuttal to it, here.
So, I can see where shes coming from on the Patriarchy and criticism of the "girls being selected over boys part". The economics criticisms I am more skeptical of, particularly:
Articles like this make achieving those goals (impossible in any case, I know) more and more difficult because the unquestioningly accept masculinity as subtractive: Whatever women are men don't want to be and whatever men are women cannot be, must not be allowed to be. They set up a seesaw where any gains women make are seen as losses to the men: IF being a man requires that one is the head of the household and the breadwinner, THEN that also requires that women cannot be breadwinners and that they must subject themselves to male authority. You cannot talk about the former without mentioning the latter.
Economics isn't zero sum, but its not 100% elastic either. If you double the size of the workforce, the people previously in the workforce are going to suffer for it. At least some of the gains here will be loses to men.

This part also is a little weird
What is happening in working class families (IF it is happening) has much more to do with outsourcing and globalization than anything some matriarchal schemers are planning to do. Though it probably also has to do with the idea that the role of men is to be the heads of the households and that requires that they make the money.
I don't think Rosin is denying that globalization and outsourcing aren't causes of this at all. In fact at least some of her argument is that globalization and outsourcing are leading to better opportunities for women then previously and men don't seem to be going after those same opportunities.
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Nordic Einar wrote:
sourmìlk wrote:
kiklion wrote:I found that line about women's salaries growing faster, and if the trend continues how they will pass men's salaries hilarious. #1, That is not a bad thing. If it is disproportionately set that may be bad, but even then if men continue to work manual labour positions and women rise in the ranks of intellectual positions (traditionally higher earning jobs) then women's average pay should be quite a bit higher than a man's. #2, If women originally earned on average, 1,000 a month and men earned 10,000 a month. And then next year men on average earned 10,010 a month vs women's 1,020... if that trend continues women may earn more eventually!

Gender inequality is bad. I'm not sue why you think it's okay if women are doing better than men.


Because men losing employment in outdated manufacturing sectors and manual labor during a recession (thus falling below as a sex in aggregate employment) != men are now the oppressed or unequal sex. Nor does the growth of women's salaries to ALMOST that of a man's equate to men doing "worse" than women.

The entire fucking premise is asinine and is used to erase or whitewash the generations of systematic oppression of women.


THIS. I was scrolling down on my way to type essentially this but you saved me the trouble. :D

Sourmilk, the fact that you've never even heard of the Equal Rights Amendment kinda proves my point (speaking from a US-centric POV, of course). Not only are women not dominating men, we're not even constitutionally guaranteed equal rights! And not only THAT, but people don't know/care - the ERA is this little-known (in the general population) thing that has languished for decades. You know what it is? The Civil War Amendments, but with "sex" this time instead of "race, color, or previous condition of servitude."

Women aren't doing "better" than men. We're still playing catchup in almost every area. A few percentage points higher university enrollment just is not evidence of The Coming Matriarchy. There's just not this huge gender equality skewed in favor of women "coming up" based on the fact that women are slowly becoming more equal. There really is not.

Also? I'm female (as opposed, as always, to the default gender: male). But thanks for assuming things!
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Postby podbaydoor » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:19 pm UTC

The Atlantic article seems to leave a couple things hanging. In the scene that she describes in the Fathering class, the instructor starts out by getting their attention with a lot of their angst about the changing of the patriarchal structures. And then...what? Does he help them adapt to the new paradigm? Or does he just continue to feed them anger and bluster about the need for patriarchy.

Also, the bit about traditionally female-dominated industries continuing where male-dominated industries are losing - she doesn't bring up the fact that many of these "female jobs" are low-paying. And also she never addresses the reasons why men are not adapting. Why aren't there male nurses? Why aren't men going back to the classroom? Why does Rosin keep painting this picture where the man has to stay in his gender roles? Why can't the male gender role evolve?
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Postby Iulus Cofield » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:30 pm UTC

Cheezwhiz Jenkins wrote:Also? I'm female (as opposed, as always, to the default gender: male). But thanks for assuming things!


When did someone call you a male? I read all of Souris' posts again and couldn't find any gendered nouns addressed at you or anyone besides the male author of the original article, so I did a search for he, him, and his, and couldn't find any that weren't referring to the male author of the original article.

podbaydoor wrote:The Atlantic article seems to leave a couple things hanging. In the scene that she describes in the Fathering class, the instructor starts out by getting their attention with a lot of their angst about the changing of the patriarchal structures. And then...what? Does he help them adapt to the new paradigm? Or does he just continue to feed them anger and bluster about the need for patriarchy.

Also, the bit about traditionally female-dominated industries continuing where male-dominated industries are losing - she doesn't bring up the fact that many of these "female jobs" are low-paying. And also she never addresses the reasons why men are not adapting. Why aren't there male nurses? Why aren't men going back to the classroom? Why does Rosin keep painting this picture where the man has to stay in his gender roles? Why can't the male gender role evolve?


The first is a good question. A support group is good for emotional well being, but unemployed and underemployed, single, middle-aged men clearly need more than that. The not going back to the classroom was answered in the Atlantic article at least partially, in the part where it talked about males of all ages tending to perform poorly at all levels of school and tending to drop out of college due to anxiety and isolation. Male nurses, in my anecdotal experience, are usually humiliated by their peers, and no one likes to remain in or join a profession where they are consistently humiliated.

I would like to know the answer to your last two questions.

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Postby Dark567 » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:35 pm UTC

podbaydoor wrote:Also, the bit about traditionally female-dominated industries continuing where male-dominated industries are losing - she doesn't bring up the fact that many of these "female jobs" are low-paying. And also she never addresses the reasons why men are not adapting. Why aren't there male nurses? Why aren't men going back to the classroom? Why does Rosin keep painting this picture where the man has to stay in his gender roles? Why can't the male gender role evolve?
I agree with the your first part(actually the whole Father class part was also kinda clunky).

But the "female jobs" she is talking about aren't low paying. They are specifically the ones requiring Bachelors and Masters degrees, both of which are generally the first step in obtaining affluence. She specifically brings up medicine and law, neither of which are considered "low paying".
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Postby Cheezwhiz Jenkins » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:36 pm UTC

I understood

He may or may not be talking about Male Empowerment, but assuming that his statistics are true than this indicates that we are raising the male population to be a bunch of fuckups.


to be referring to me; if that is not the case then I apologize. (Also, I mixed up you and sourmilk, sorry.)
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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby Iulus Cofield » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:44 pm UTC

Cheezwhiz Jenkins wrote:I understood

He may or may not be talking about Male Empowerment, but assuming that his statistics are true than this indicates that we are raising the male population to be a bunch of fuckups.


to be referring to me; if that is not the case then I apologize.


Oh don't worry about these thing ha--

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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby Cheezwhiz Jenkins » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:45 pm UTC

*snerk* :lol: :lol: :lol:
That explosion was so big it blew off his mullet :-O

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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby Tomlidich » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:47 pm UTC

hey guys: 98% of statistics are wrong. also, 33% of us wealth is still owned by the abraham lincoln estate.

anyone can shout statistics until their ears bleed, but until we have actual social equality, the numbers just don't mean much. i believe the pant thread has a discussion just like this one.

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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby Prefanity » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:49 pm UTC

Iulus Cofield wrote:Male nurses, in my anecdotal experience, are usually humiliated by their peers, and no one likes to remain in or join a profession where they are consistently humiliated.


When you say "peers" do you mean other male nurses or their non-nurse friends? Granted, the latter would still elicit shock from me.

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Re: Why men are in trouble (CNN Op-Ed)

Postby Iulus Cofield » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:52 pm UTC

Non-nurse friends and sometimes non-male nurse coworkers. Have you heard of the term "murse"? On the admittedly few occasions I've heard it used, it was accompanied by some sort of gesture (snickering, eye rolling, etc.) to indicate it was meant derogatorily.


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