[S] All The King's Men - Loyalists win!
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D2 That was easy...
Mav: Why are you still bringing up the "If you lynch me, town will lose" thing? Weiyaoli already said if a scum who has truthified "I am town" says that when there are 3 left, it'll come up as true, same as if a townie said it in that position. It's useless.
If you're looking for something to lie detect, we have my statement and the statements from Boom's plan.
If you're looking for something to lie detect, we have my statement and the statements from Boom's plan.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D2 That was easy...
EBWOP: Something for someone else to lie detect that should say, since you used yours already.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D2 That was easy...
[Deity] allmighty I fucking fail at reading modresponses correctly this game. Ignore everything I ever said about that, please.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D2 That was easy...
New statement time!
Same deal as last time, I'm asking everyone to either post these, explain why they will come up as false despite being a townie, or offer a good reason why posting these statements would be bad for the town.
As of the time of this post, the only ability I have used that alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, is the inherent truthify, outlined in the Mod's OP, which was granted to all players, and I have used this ability, or the same ability granted through another means, exactly once.
As of the time of this post, I have not used any ability that alters or reverses the truth value of Statement X, or any subset thereof, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, where Statement X is, without quotations: "As of the time of this post, I have not used an ability, including but not limited to the truthify each player begins with and the truthify that the mod granted to a scum due to the modkill, that alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's."
As of the time of this post, the only statement I have truthified, or used any other ability which alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, is, without quotes, "The sum of all prime numbers is 42."
You should fill in your nonsense statement from earlier in place of mine.
Now of course, let us not make the same mistake Angua did and assume that any false result means they are scum. As I have maintained all game, it is possible that the scum have some ability to interfere with our ability to use the lie detector beyond that which is publicly known. Angua might rightly object it is unlikely that a falsify ability be used on that specific statement of Boomfrog's when there were statements more likely to be checked, but if there is such an ability, it could easily be one that target and impairs any statement that target player lie detects or that any statement of target played that someone else lie detects.
Still, it should be a warning flag for someone to fail, without reason, one of these tests (even after accounting for the fact that the reporter might be scum).
None of these should be covered by a golding of "I am town" because they only concern the actual use of the truthifies. Since a scum need not have truthified more than once, or have truthified my Statement X, they are not substantially identical statements, only ones that are likely, but not guaranteed, to be useful, because it is likely but not guaranteed the scum will fail one or both of them by this point in the game.
Same deal as last time, I'm asking everyone to either post these, explain why they will come up as false despite being a townie, or offer a good reason why posting these statements would be bad for the town.
As of the time of this post, the only ability I have used that alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, is the inherent truthify, outlined in the Mod's OP, which was granted to all players, and I have used this ability, or the same ability granted through another means, exactly once.
As of the time of this post, I have not used any ability that alters or reverses the truth value of Statement X, or any subset thereof, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, where Statement X is, without quotations: "As of the time of this post, I have not used an ability, including but not limited to the truthify each player begins with and the truthify that the mod granted to a scum due to the modkill, that alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's."
As of the time of this post, the only statement I have truthified, or used any other ability which alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, is, without quotes, "The sum of all prime numbers is 42."
You should fill in your nonsense statement from earlier in place of mine.
Now of course, let us not make the same mistake Angua did and assume that any false result means they are scum. As I have maintained all game, it is possible that the scum have some ability to interfere with our ability to use the lie detector beyond that which is publicly known. Angua might rightly object it is unlikely that a falsify ability be used on that specific statement of Boomfrog's when there were statements more likely to be checked, but if there is such an ability, it could easily be one that target and impairs any statement that target player lie detects or that any statement of target played that someone else lie detects.
Still, it should be a warning flag for someone to fail, without reason, one of these tests (even after accounting for the fact that the reporter might be scum).
None of these should be covered by a golding of "I am town" because they only concern the actual use of the truthifies. Since a scum need not have truthified more than once, or have truthified my Statement X, they are not substantially identical statements, only ones that are likely, but not guaranteed, to be useful, because it is likely but not guaranteed the scum will fail one or both of them by this point in the game.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D2 That was easy...
As of the time of this post, the only ability I have used that alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, is the inherent truthify, outlined in the Mod's OP, which was granted to all players, and I have used this ability, or the same ability granted through another means, exactly once.
As of the time of this post, I have not used any ability that alters or reverses the truth value of Statement X, or any subset thereof, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, where Statement X is, without quotations: "As of the time of this post, I have not used an ability, including but not limited to the truthify each player begins with and the truthify that the mod granted to a scum due to the modkill, that alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's."
As of the time of this post, the only statement I have truthified, or used any other ability which alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, is, without quotes, "clouds are made of lead."
As of the time of this post, I have not used any ability that alters or reverses the truth value of Statement X, or any subset thereof, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, where Statement X is, without quotations: "As of the time of this post, I have not used an ability, including but not limited to the truthify each player begins with and the truthify that the mod granted to a scum due to the modkill, that alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's."
As of the time of this post, the only statement I have truthified, or used any other ability which alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, is, without quotes, "clouds are made of lead."
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D2 That was easy...
As of the time of this post, the only ability I have used that alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, is the inherent truthify, outlined in the Mod's OP, which was granted to all players, and I have used this ability, or the same ability granted through another means, exactly once.
As of the time of this post, I have not used any ability that alters or reverses the truth value of Statement X, or any subset thereof, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, where Statement X is, without quotations: "As of the time of this post, I have not used an ability, including but not limited to the truthify each player begins with and the truthify that the mod granted to a scum due to the modkill, that alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's."
As of the time of this post, the only statement I have truthified, or used any other ability which alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, is, without quotes, "All manatees are rainbow coloured."
As of the time of this post, I have not used any ability that alters or reverses the truth value of Statement X, or any subset thereof, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, where Statement X is, without quotations: "As of the time of this post, I have not used an ability, including but not limited to the truthify each player begins with and the truthify that the mod granted to a scum due to the modkill, that alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's."
As of the time of this post, the only statement I have truthified, or used any other ability which alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, is, without quotes, "All manatees are rainbow coloured."
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D2 That was easy...
As of the time of this post, the only ability I have used that alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, is the inherent truthify, outlined in the Mod's OP, which was granted to all players, and I have used this ability, or the same ability granted through another means, exactly once.
As of the time of this post, I have not used any ability that alters or reverses the truth value of Statement X, or any subset thereof, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, where Statement X is, without quotations: "As of the time of this post, I have not used an ability, including but not limited to the truthify each player begins with and the truthify that the mod granted to a scum due to the modkill, that alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's."
As of the time of this post, the only statement I have truthified, or used any other ability which alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, is, without quotes, "All Elephants are green."
@Silknor: I thought that you were against breaking the game on principle? Why the change of heart?
@Angua: I have a theory but it's not useful to discuss it until D3.
As of the time of this post, I have not used any ability that alters or reverses the truth value of Statement X, or any subset thereof, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, where Statement X is, without quotations: "As of the time of this post, I have not used an ability, including but not limited to the truthify each player begins with and the truthify that the mod granted to a scum due to the modkill, that alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's."
As of the time of this post, the only statement I have truthified, or used any other ability which alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, is, without quotes, "All Elephants are green."
@Silknor: I thought that you were against breaking the game on principle? Why the change of heart?
@Angua: I have a theory but it's not useful to discuss it until D3.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D2 That was easy...
I place a much lower value on the lie detectors than you do, as I've explained previously. I'm more interested in gaining information from the way people react to well-formulated questions than in trusting the results we get from them (I feel free to say this as it's both probably fairly obvious and I want to encourage again no one to take the lie detector results without a grain of salt, or a shaker full of it). Also I know that, unless townies have been lying, we have at most 2 lie detectors remaining. Those aren't very good odds for finding the non-truthified false statements. In an open setup with no abilities beyond what we know exists, and on day 1, sure, I might have been able to screw the scum over, or break the game as it may be, with this set of questions. But that does not appear to be the case here.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D2 That was easy...
Sorry I was late for the day ending.
After much debate, the council decided to postpone their decision for king another day. One particular member though was not so fortunate, slbub was seized by a mob as they exited the palace and lynched. His body lost within the crowd, Maybe it will be calmer the next day and you will be able to find out more about slbub.
N2 begins. It will end in 3 days from now (So Saturday) or earlier if all of the actions are in quickly and I find the time to open up day.
After much debate, the council decided to postpone their decision for king another day. One particular member though was not so fortunate, slbub was seized by a mob as they exited the palace and lynched. His body lost within the crowd, Maybe it will be calmer the next day and you will be able to find out more about slbub.
N2 begins. It will end in 3 days from now (So Saturday) or earlier if all of the actions are in quickly and I find the time to open up day.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D3 Death of an investigator
The next day, reports of slbub filtered through to the (now depleted) council.
Slbub was Jacob Webster, a Loyalist
One of the council did not return. Search parties found the body of Angua, smothered in their sleep.
Angua was Dean Quincy, a Loyalist Cop, that could investigate someone each night and receive either Revolutionary or Loyalist (or unknown if independent).
D3 begins now. 3 alive, 2 to lynch. It is LYLO. There shouldn't be any need to set a deadline so no deadline yet.
Slbub was Jacob Webster, a Loyalist
One of the council did not return. Search parties found the body of Angua, smothered in their sleep.
Angua was Dean Quincy, a Loyalist Cop, that could investigate someone each night and receive either Revolutionary or Loyalist (or unknown if independent).
D3 begins now. 3 alive, 2 to lynch. It is LYLO. There shouldn't be any need to set a deadline so no deadline yet.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D3 Death of an investigator
Well either Silknor is a godfather and redirector and lie detect manipulator or Mav is a very good player. I find the latter much more likely.
I used up my detect truth on Webby D1 anyway.
Vote Mav
I used up my detect truth on Webby D1 anyway.
Vote Mav
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D3 Death of an investigator
Retroactively claiming that you've already used up your lie detector a long time ago... that's like even more convenient than me using it stupidly but owning up to it. (Note: don't confuse "that's a convenient claim for scum" with "that would be a bad decision for town".)
I think it's clear that I would've voted for BoomFrog yesterday if it weren't for the no-lynch numbers, and honestly... that post convinced me even more. If you're town, why would you not at least await Silknor's lie detector claim (there is no reason for him to not use it now and tell us) before making up your mind? You must be aware that that vote you just posted ends the game (the wrong way) if Silknor is scum.
I think it's clear that I would've voted for BoomFrog yesterday if it weren't for the no-lynch numbers, and honestly... that post convinced me even more. If you're town, why would you not at least await Silknor's lie detector claim (there is no reason for him to not use it now and tell us) before making up your mind? You must be aware that that vote you just posted ends the game (the wrong way) if Silknor is scum.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D3 Death of an investigator
I think its safe to say that the Mods did not give one scum player three powers. Silknor is confirmed town at this point. The game is in his hands.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D3 Death of an investigator
Boom: Why did you not mention having used your lie detector earlier?
Time for me to use my lie detector at long last.
Time for me to use my lie detector at long last.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D3 Death of an investigator
I investigated Boom saying:
I got back true.
As of the time of this post, the only ability I have used that alters or reverses the truth value of any statement, or set of statements, or ensures it will be considered true or false, be it mine or another's, is the inherent truthify, outlined in the Mod's OP, which was granted to all players, and I have used this ability, or the same ability granted through another means, exactly once.
I got back true.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D3 Death of an investigator
Meh, fine. Either way, Angua's lie detector result from yesterday should be enough to settle this game.
Vote: BoomFrog
Vote: BoomFrog
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D3 Death of an investigator
Silknor wrote:Boom: Why did you not mention having used your lie detector earlier?
Time for me to use my lie detector at long last.
I didn't see the benifit of claiming, it only would give scum more information without helping town.
Thinking about this more, I don't get you logic (again). Scum could safly claim anything at this point. If I was scum I could say I used my detect on you and got a false or my detect on silknor and got a true. Either way wouldn't matter. Why is claiming it's already been used "more convienient"?Mavketl wrote:Retroactively claiming that you've already used up your lie detector a long time ago...
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D3 Death of an investigator
You already tried false-claiming a result on me, and it didn't work out so well. ;P
Saying you had recently used it on Silknor would be a huge red flag as it seems kind of wasteful since we had a cop result on him.
Saying you had recently used it on Silknor would be a huge red flag as it seems kind of wasteful since we had a cop result on him.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D3 Death of an investigator
I don't trust Mav. I never do, I know she's too silky smooth to be trusted. But there's not much I have to suspect her of, either because she's a good townie or a very good scum. The lie detectors don't help much either, there's too many possibilities given the tension between Angua and my results.. But Boom has seemed more suspicious for much of the game.
Vote: Boomfrog
Vote: Boomfrog
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - D3 Death of an investigator
Well, good game then. I've still never won as scum. I think I was doing pretty well until about halfway through D2 I thought things were going against me so I decided to falseclaim watcher. I had somehow convinced myself that Mav had copped me because she was trusting me so much D2 (I'm a godfather btw) but that really doesn't fit with her wierd "experiment" D1 if I'd thought about it enough.
This is not a complaint, I think I could have won if I was good enough. But I don't think the set up was very balanced. 1 cop, 1 doc, 3 vanilla town, 1 survivor/jester, 1 goon, 1 godfather. (unless Misnomer had a power I was unaware of). Anyway, that's a fair setup without the truthdetectors, and besides the possibility of a detector manipulating scum the truth detectors are almost a one-shot cop per town player, or at least a half a cop.
This is not a complaint, I think I could have won if I was good enough. But I don't think the set up was very balanced. 1 cop, 1 doc, 3 vanilla town, 1 survivor/jester, 1 goon, 1 godfather. (unless Misnomer had a power I was unaware of). Anyway, that's a fair setup without the truthdetectors, and besides the possibility of a detector manipulating scum the truth detectors are almost a one-shot cop per town player, or at least a half a cop.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - Loyalists win
BF is lynched. Loyalists win.
After exiling BF, the deaths in the palace stopped and a new king was elected. The fledgling revolution was crushed by the army of knights without their leaders or any experienced troops.
Apologies for the lateness of processing stuff and bare flavor towards the end. Quite a lot of this game was a struggle. Here is the original setup for those who are interested, that had a different mechanic that I couldn't really make work with 8 people without it being very very swingy (thanks again to lataro for helping out with the balancing at the beginning:
Special Rules:
Roles:
Remember, you only have three days to name a king.
After exiling BF, the deaths in the palace stopped and a new king was elected. The fledgling revolution was crushed by the army of knights without their leaders or any experienced troops.
Apologies for the lateness of processing stuff and bare flavor towards the end. Quite a lot of this game was a struggle. Here is the original setup for those who are interested, that had a different mechanic that I couldn't really make work with 8 people without it being very very swingy (thanks again to lataro for helping out with the balancing at the beginning:
Special Rules:
Spoiler:
Roles:
Spoiler:
Remember, you only have three days to name a king.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - Loyalists win!
What the fuck, BoomFrog... why did you kill the cop if you're a Godfather?
You completely had me on D1, and on D2 I only started to doubt you because everyone else was being so god damn townie as well (barring slbub, but yeah, modkill). And then your weird claim happened and Angua had copped Silknor as town and everything cleared up.
weiyaoli, can you clarify something about the lie detector system?
If someone would trutify "I am not town" (presumably that would be scum truthifying someone else's statement), any "I am scum" statement that person makes will show up as true, correct? How does that make sense when
a) the original statement was ALREADY TRUE, so how come everything changes when it is truthified?
b) clearly that person is not scum and nobody has truthified that they are scum?
I still can't get my head around how this works if there are more than two factions...
You completely had me on D1, and on D2 I only started to doubt you because everyone else was being so god damn townie as well (barring slbub, but yeah, modkill). And then your weird claim happened and Angua had copped Silknor as town and everything cleared up.
The feeling is completely mutual. ;PSilknor wrote:I don't trust Mav. I never do, I know she's too silky smooth to be trusted.
weiyaoli, can you clarify something about the lie detector system?
If someone would trutify "I am not town" (presumably that would be scum truthifying someone else's statement), any "I am scum" statement that person makes will show up as true, correct? How does that make sense when
a) the original statement was ALREADY TRUE, so how come everything changes when it is truthified?
b) clearly that person is not scum and nobody has truthified that they are scum?
I still can't get my head around how this works if there are more than two factions...

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Re: [S] All The King's Men - Loyalists win!
Oh, @trusting BoomFrog, I was getting paranoid because I was still alive so maybe scum was someone I was trusting too much and FFS WHY AM I STILL ALIVE <-- my thought process for much of this game. So confused.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - Loyalists win!
ALSO I can't just think of what I want to say and then post all of it, I have to EBWOP the hell out of myself.
I think the D3 jester was a great role for this set-up. Barring extreme luck/skillz on one side, it was always going to be a 3-day game, so having someone try to be really townie for two days (... theoretically, if they're not Adam H
) and then scum out on D3 would've been interesting. And if played well, it would also really help scum, so I think it was a good balancing tool.
I think the D3 jester was a great role for this set-up. Barring extreme luck/skillz on one side, it was always going to be a 3-day game, so having someone try to be really townie for two days (... theoretically, if they're not Adam H

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Re: [S] All The King's Men - Loyalists win!
I goofed a little on the original ruling regarding that. At that point though, I don't think there was any actions sent in anyway. After that, I treated the jester separately from the rest of the game (ignoring the fact that there were technically three "factions") because it would just confuse everyone and wouldn't fix the problem with truthify. Sorry if I confused you with my mistake there, totally my fault.
If anyone is interested, here is the action log:
If anyone is interested, here is the action log:
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And you thought I was crazy...
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - Loyalists win!
is that no protect from webby and no cop from Angua because they didn't send one in, or because they were killed?

you bastardBoomFrog lie detected "I am not town" from Mavketl, receives FALSE and then truthifies "I am a revolutionary" from Mavketl

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Re: [S] All The King's Men - Loyalists win!
They didn't send any actions in.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - Loyalists win!
I actually forgot about me having an action in this game on N2, then when I remembered weiyaoli had just pronounced me dead.
I think we would have been big trouble if boomfrog hadn't killed me, though I guess it would have been obvious that by not killing the cop, someone was a godfather, and I would have suspected boomfrog for lying about the targeting thing anyway.
I think we would have been big trouble if boomfrog hadn't killed me, though I guess it would have been obvious that by not killing the cop, someone was a godfather, and I would have suspected boomfrog for lying about the targeting thing anyway.
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Re: [S] All The King's Men - Loyalists win!
Exactly, the only reason I wouldn't kill Angua is if I was going to go for the "there is no cop in this game" argument and say angua is scum. Although leaving her alive would cast doubt on Silknor since there is obviously a GF present, but I'd already got cought in too many lies already. For Silk to be scum from my view he would have had to have three powers.
Oh, and Mav I left you alive because a) I thought it likely you would be doctored. b) I thought you'd acted really scummy D1. There was no benifit to asking everyone to keep making "I am scum" statements except to allow scum to truthify them. But unfortunatly no one picked up on that issue besides me... I was REALLY hoping someone would detect your "I am town".
Interestingly I never had any good reason to use my 2nd truthify. I probably should have truthified something random late on D2 before people started detecting. If Angua had gotten a true I might have still pulled it out.
I think my best chance was if I had claimed vanilla, I was still likely to get a detect used on me but maybe not.
Oh, and Mav I left you alive because a) I thought it likely you would be doctored. b) I thought you'd acted really scummy D1. There was no benifit to asking everyone to keep making "I am scum" statements except to allow scum to truthify them. But unfortunatly no one picked up on that issue besides me... I was REALLY hoping someone would detect your "I am town".

I think my best chance was if I had claimed vanilla, I was still likely to get a detect used on me but maybe not.
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