EdgarJPublius wrote:And again, it's not clear to me at all that medical tourism figures even constitute a valid measure of healthcare system efficiency, as there are many other variables that can greatly influence those figures.
Originally, gavin wasn't making a point. He was just showing that cphite was wrong.gavin wrote:This simply isn't true. Let's compare the US to Canada and the UK.cphite wrote:Statistically, the United States has higher survival rates for trauma care, serious illness, long-term illness, you name it, than nearly anyplace else in the world. We also enjoy shorter wait times for both emergency and non-emergency medical care. There is a reason that people come here from around the world when it really matters, rather than vice-versa.[snip]
If the insurance industry was a cartel, then yes, you would be right.gavin wrote:Insurance companies benefit as the prices are driven higher because they usually get the same percentage of profit regardless (so a larger pie means more money). They don't accept some hospitals because they still need to keep their premiums in competition with other companies so they need to have some sort of control over their intake vs. output.nitPhyre wrote:The person walking into a hospital doesn't buy healthcare. They buy insurance. Insurance companies buy healthcare. And yes, hospitals advertise their prices to insurance companies. That's why there are a bunch of Insurance policies that only cover services received in certain hospitals.
It isn't a problem, it is how the market works. Do you know what would happen if your idea came to pass, if there was a sign with all the prices of the different procedures listed on it? People would walk right past it without giving it a glance. They have insurance, they aren't buying their care piece-meal. Why would they care about piece-meal prices when they have insurance?gavin wrote:This seperation between the person and the cost of the care they're recieving is exactly one of the problems I'm talking about.
Additionally, can you even put up a price list? Something can go wrong in a surgery and it can take all day instead of a couple of hours. How do you reflect that on advertised prices? Although it would be kind of funny:
-$1500 per bullet removed (Stitches extra)