Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby mercutio_stencil » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:40 am UTC

WarDaft wrote:I unfortunately seem to have weird taste in beer, in that I don't like any bitterness at all or, well, to me it seems like a burnt toast flavour, but other people seem to call it a bready flavour. So that's the sort of beer people tend to reccomend to me when I say I like the bready flavour in beers I've had... but I want bready, not burnt toasty =/

So far, the two beers I like most are Molsom M and Ricards Red. M more than Ricards, because Ricards has more bitterness, or at least non draught it does. Anyone have any suggestions?


I'd consider more classic British and German styles if I were you, avoiding the obvious Porters and Rauchbeers. Something like a German Marzen or Oktoberfest beer might be a good place to start, plus, they are usually on a good sale this time of year, with the 'fest' just ending. If you can find a classic British ESB, you might like it; it would be pushing the hop bitterness a bit, but it should have a nice bready backbone that should moderate it. You could also try a less special bitter, which would have less hops.

If you can find a Scottish style ale, they might also be a good fit, they tend to be very malt forward and have a rich sweetness without being especially bitter. If you could provide a geographic location, I might be able to recommend you some specific brands. Actually, Molson implies Canada, doesn't it? I have no idea what goes on in America's cap, so someone else is going to have to step in for that.

Also, has anyone else had a Lagunitas Hop Stoopid recently? I swear they changed their recipe, or else I've just had a few really fresh kegs. All of a sudden it tastes nothing like I remember it. Maybe they are trying to make up for Brown Shugga.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Bakemaster » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:16 am UTC

I have acquired Pangaea and Midas Touch. We we we so excited.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Heisenberg » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:50 pm UTC

Made it out to the Rehoboth Beach brewpub over the summer. They didn't have the Pangaea on tap, to my dismay, but they did have the Chicory Stout, which is definitely the best beer I've had this year.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Azrael » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:56 pm UTC

I was in Rehoboth in early September, and was startlingly disappointed in Pangaea. But not nearly as confused as I was with Red & Black -- the mint-chocolate cough syrup experimental batch that will hopefully never make bottles. Although my love for high-gravity beers like 120 and World Wide is no secret, my favorite Dogfish pint ever has been 90 Minute through a Randall over fresh cascade hops. It was phenomenal.

Although, after having kicked a keg of St. Botolph's Town over the weekend for my birthday shindig, I feel the need to remind the rest of the world that if they don't have Pretty Things distribution yet, they're missing out.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby TheAmazingRando » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:53 am UTC

Azrael wrote:Although, after having kicked a keg of St. Botolph's Town over the weekend for my birthday shindig, I feel the need to remind the rest of the world that if they don't have Pretty Things distribution yet, they're missing out.
I've been dying to try their beers for a long time, nothing on tap anywhere around here but a brief google search tells me a few bottle shops in the area have recently started stocking them. Time to see what all the fuss is about.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Azrael » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:29 pm UTC

If you can find any of theirs, you ought to be able to find Jack D'or (saison) and Botolphs (dark ale) which are excellent. Baby Tree (their quad) is nothing special. Babayaga (stout, current seasonal) is good as well, but not earth shattering.

Their historic brews (the ones with dates in the names) are all good, but ... odd.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Bakemaster » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:09 pm UTC

Midas Touch had much less presence than I was hoping for, but it was still pretty good. Not quite what I look for most in a beer but I'd drink it again.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby mercutio_stencil » Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:56 pm UTC

Just had a tasting of the Rasputin 12, Firestone Walker Parabola, and Goose Island Kentucky Breakfast Stout.

That was tasty.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby PictureSarah » Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:31 pm UTC

Pangaea tasted like yeast to me. And the friend who tasted it with us said it tasted like Rice Dream. I was disappoint.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Bakemaster » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:30 am UTC

It kind of reminded me of my first homebrew, except without any clove and with just a sad hint of ginger. I want SO MUCH GINGER, guys.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Malconstant » Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:21 pm UTC

mercutio_stencil wrote: Goose Island Kentucky Breakfast Stout.


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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby netcrusher88 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:26 pm UTC

I've had someone else's breakfast stout. It was like, bacon & eggs stout. Part of a complete breakfast for the discerning alcoholic.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Azrael » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:36 pm UTC

mercutio_stencil wrote:Just had a tasting of the Rasputin 12, Firestone Walker Parabola, and Goose Island Kentucky Breakfast Stout.

That was tasty.

KBS is made by Founders, not Goose Island. Goose did a breakfast once that I'm aware of, but it never made it to bottles. So if it was KBS, it was made by Founders. If it was Goose Island, I'd imagine you mean Bourbon County Stout.

Or, of course, option C) None of the above
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Malconstant » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:08 pm UTC

Yeah, I've got a KBS, a regular founder's breakfast stout and a backwoods bastard lining my fridge at the moment. My money's on backwoods bastard for best of the genre, though I've got huge sympathies for Goose Island's Bourbon County Stout. I really need to get my hands on one of their rare releases or coffee stouts.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Dark567 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:17 pm UTC

Malconstant wrote:Yeah, I've got a KBS, a regular founder's breakfast stout and a backwoods bastard lining my fridge at the moment. My money's on backwoods bastard for best of the genre, though I've got huge sympathies for Goose Island's Bourbon County Stout. I really need to get my hands on one of their rare releases or coffee stouts.

Neapolitan Bourbon County Stout. If you can find it you will thank me.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby mercutio_stencil » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:21 pm UTC

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mercutio_stencil wrote:Just had a tasting of the Rasputin 12, Firestone Walker Parabola, and Goose Island Kentucky Breakfast Stout.

That was tasty.

KBS is made by Founders, not Goose Island. Goose did a breakfast once that I'm aware of, but it never made it to bottles. So if it was KBS, it was made by Founders. If it was Goose Island, I'd imagine you mean Bourbon County Stout.

Or, of course, option C) None of the above


You're right; my bad for posting right after the tasting (read just a little tipsy). It was Bourbon County Stout. At least my tasting notes are accurate...
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby TheAmazingRando » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:09 pm UTC

This past week was San Diego Beer Week, and while unfortunately I didn't make it to many events, I did manage to go to a tapping of twelve one-off varieties of Alesmith's Speedway Stout. I ordered a flight of seven, which included the original and also had chipotle pepper, coconut and vanilla bean, mole surprise, madagascar cocoa and vanilla, traditional mexican chocolate, and Kopi Luwak (which was on cask, and tasted more like a good espresso than any other coffee stout I've tried). I didn't take any notes, but they were all surprisingly well balanced. They'll probably be doing it again next year, if you're in the area.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Whitekiboko » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:38 am UTC

The only kopi luwak beers I've drank were from Mikkeller, but I'm not much (read I don't drink) of a coffee person.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby dubsola » Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:12 am UTC

I'm thinking Kopi Luwak beer is about as niche as it gets. You wouldn't be able to make it in Australia, as Australian customs do not like weird organic things coming in the country (my friend got his confiscated recently).
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby dubsola » Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:58 am UTC

Where is a nice place to drink beer in Copenhagen?
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Ulc » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:45 pm UTC

dubsola wrote:Where is a nice place to drink beer in Copenhagen?


When are you going to be in Copenhagen?

Anyway, good places would (in my opinion) be in the following rough order

Ørsted ølbar - I almost have to say that, I work there after all, but I do genuinely think it's the best beer bar in Copenhagen
Mikkellers - fairly quiet atmosphere, and it's a bit on the small side, so there wont be a whole lot of people before it's really crammed.
Plan B - mix of beer bar and café, they have a lower selection than the two above though
Fermentoren - run by the guy that owns the crooked moon brewery, quite good, but the ceiling is crap, so the acoustics are quite bad, and as soon as there is 30 people in there, you basically can't talk anymore due to the noise
Ølbaren - a decent beer bar, but they close fairly early (and occasionally the bartenders will invade Ørsted), and something about the fact that they have a happy hour annoys me. It's not a place I've been a whole lot, since the fact that I'm working at ørsted means I save money by drinking my beer there ;)

Those are the serious beer bars really. Though a lot of bars have at least a few good beers.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby dubsola » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:07 pm UTC

Thanks for the tips! I'm going next weekend.

I had another pint of the Nøgne Saison the other day, it really is a spectacular beer.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Dream » Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:00 pm UTC

No words can describe this. Wait, no. One word captures it all: MmmHop.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Ulc » Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:28 pm UTC

Dream wrote:No words can describe this. Wait, no. One word captures it all: MmmHop.


I can't see how that can go wrong.. or wait, I totally can.

Though It'd be cool if they actually made something decent rather than totally bland - thus exposing tons of pop fans to a decent beer.

I've tasted Nøgle Ø Saison, but like most saison it isn't really my style - it's too light in hops, and I don't appreciate the very sweety fruity taste, and the spices doesn't go well with me either. I can drink it (unlike German style wheatbeer which I avoid like the plague), but it's not something I'm terrible fond of.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Bakemaster » Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:43 pm UTC

Hmm. IPA is not the first style that would come to mind if you asked me to associate a beer with Hanson.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Whitekiboko » Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:10 pm UTC

Bakemaster wrote:Hmm. IPA is not the first style that would come to mind if you asked me to associate a beer with Hanson.


Well zima has been out of business for so long...
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby dubsola » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:50 pm UTC

Beer Advent Calendar. The writing is pretty funny:
some brewers [...] are quietly going about their business of making quality, interesting IPAs that have enough about them to excite the palate but aren't so overbearing you don't know whether you're drinking beer or going down on a cannabis flower.


I just bought a bunch of Christmassy ales for a Christmas lunch I'm hosting tomorrow. I'm hoping they'll be as delicious as the pork loin I'm going to roast. Some are from the US, some from the UK, some Belgian, and some German.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Belial » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:38 pm UTC

Ulc wrote:Though It'd be cool if they actually made something decent rather than totally bland - thus exposing tons of pop fans to a decent beer.


So...wait...is the plan to send the beer back to the 90s?
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Ulc » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:01 pm UTC

Belial wrote:
Ulc wrote:Though It'd be cool if they actually made something decent rather than totally bland - thus exposing tons of pop fans to a decent beer.


So...wait...is the plan to send the beer back to the 90s?


I have no idea who they are, the article however, made it seem like they were still quite popular, so I guessed the article was right.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby TheAmazingRando » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:01 am UTC

I just tried my first BrewDog beer tonight, Tokyo*. I've always been pretty skeptical of them, their beers always seemed gimmicky and I went into it expecting mediocrity, but the 18% ABV was actually very well balanced and the taste was delicious, dark chocolate with a hint of cranberry tanginess and not nearly as boozy as I was expecting.

I want to try some of their less "extreme" beers. Any suggestions?
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby dubsola » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:22 am UTC

Punk IPA.

Ulc, I went to your bar and to Mikkeller over the weekend, your bar was way too busy to say hello but I did try a couple of your delicious beers, and Mikkeller was very impressive with their 20 taps. What a great city. So much good beer! I found out where I can obtain said beers here in London, so I'm going to do that.

Also, I couldn't help but notice that both bars had Pipers crisps - the best, but rarest, crisps of them all.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Ulc » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:29 am UTC

dubsola wrote:Punk IPA.

Ulc, I went to your bar and to Mikkeller over the weekend, your bar was way too busy to say hello but I did try a couple of your delicious beers, and Mikkeller was very impressive with their 20 taps. What a great city. So much good beer! I found out where I can obtain said beers here in London, so I'm going to do that.


Yeah, Ørsted can be quite busy.

When it comes to beer, Copenhagen really is a great city - and there's quite a few of the Danish brewers that I think are awfully good (Mikkel has his ups and downs, due to the whole "only the most extreme beers are worth brewing attitude), but Amager, Beer Here and a few others are pretty consistently awesome.

In related news: Yesterday I helped brew 1000 l stout.

The bar I work at have rented a fermentor at a local brewery, so all the staff were invited for the brew-day, and we all participated in making a stout for our bar, that wont be available anywhere else. I'm so looking forward to tasting it in about four weeks. I might add that brewing industrial scale is actually seriously easier than brewing small scale at home!
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby TheAmazingRando » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:48 am UTC

dubsola wrote:Punk IPA.
They've got it at my liquor store, I'll pick it up. Have you tried their Mikkeller collab?
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Dream » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:44 pm UTC

dubsola wrote:I had another pint of the Nøgne Saison the other day, it really is a spectacular beer.

Tried that bottled last week. I was impressed, but I wasn't €7.30 impressed. It was delicious, but I couldn't find anything that justified a high price tag. Now I'm wondering whether it's ridiculous Scandinavian taxes, or just another high priced beer that's only as good as its excellent lesser priced peers.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby dubsola » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:47 am UTC

I had another of those last night at home, and it just tasted like a fruity wheat beer. I wasn't into it. Beer is strange like that.

Just about everything a tourist might buy in Copenhagen is wincingly expensive (and I live in London, remember). I think pints are about 40% more there. That said, the UK government is doing it's best to make alcohol more expensive here. http://www.camra.org.uk/media/attachments/333593/CAMRA%20Tax%20Briefing%202011.pdf
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby Ulc » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:02 am UTC

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dubsola wrote:Punk IPA.
They've got it at my liquor store, I'll pick it up. Have you tried their Mikkeller collab?


Which of them? They've made a few, but both Atlantic IPA and I Hardcore You are really good :)

dubsola, Copenhagen really is a bloody expensive city, pints, dinners, everything cost a minor fortune.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby dubsola » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:05 am UTC

Sure is. I ordered a glass of wine before realising that it was £18. Bloody good glass of wine (it was Danish wine!), mind you.

One thing I did notice was that real estate seems to be quite a bit cheaper, is that the case?
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Postby TheAmazingRando » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:12 pm UTC

Ulc wrote:Which of them? They've made a few, but both Atlantic IPA and I Hardcore You are really good :).
I Hardcore You is the one I was thinking of. I'll need to find a good time to try it, it's a bit expensive for a 12oz bottle.

Punk IPA was really good. Very different hop profile than most of the US west coast IPAs and DIPAs, probably won't supplant any of my favorites but it's nice to have variety. I'll definitely be drinking it again.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby clockworkmonk » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:53 pm UTC

So, quick question thingy.

Any advice on good Reds?

I've found I enjoy the sourness and flavor of them.
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Re: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy

Postby mercutio_stencil » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:59 pm UTC

Ulc wrote:. I might add that brewing industrial scale is actually seriously easier than brewing small scale at home!


I'm with you there; having a complete set of equipment, made for the task at hand, that is all designed to work together makes a huge difference. It's hard to go back to a system of kludged together pots and pans. Not to mention, steam heated vessels and glycol cooled fermentation vessels are powerful forced for good.
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