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Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby Zarq » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:54 am UTC

I always thought the only difference between an original version and a movie tie-in version was that they changed the original cover to a still from the movie, and that's it. However, on another forum I frequent there's a guy who says movie tie-ins often change stuff in the book so it's closer to the movie. Books he says where that happened are the Eragon series, My Sister's Keeper, the Twilight series, The Golden Compass and The Help. I can't find anything about this on Google, and it just seems counterintuitive to me. They'd have to actually put effort in that, instead of just slapping on a new cover.

Can anyone debunk or prove this?
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby Fedechiar » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:18 pm UTC

"In extremely rare cases, a movie tie-in book may also be a "re-telling" or abridgement of an original novel. For instance, H. Rider Haggard's She was re-told/abridged by author Don Ward when it was issued as a mapback in 1949 although it is not directly related to a specific filmed adaptation—the number of characters was reduced, the activities of the plot were simplified to match the plot of the film, and the language of the original novel was simplified."

From wiki - so yeah, if the author says it's OK and works on it him- or herself, the book may be changed, but I don't think there are a lot of writers who would accept that
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby Zarq » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:32 pm UTC

Yeah, that's what he told me. Using an example of something that's not a movie tie-in to prove that movie tie-ins sometimes change stuff? I'm surprised it even stayed on wikipedia that long. The version that paragraph is talking about also clearly specified it was "Retold" version.
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby AvatarIII » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:45 pm UTC

The Golden Compass was originally called The Northern Lights before the movie came out, but as far as I know there is no difference in content.
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby semicharmed » Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:20 pm UTC

AvatarIII wrote:The Golden Compass was originally called The Northern Lights before the movie came out, but as far as I know there is no difference in content.


It was actually released as The Golden Compass in the US originally; my grandparents gave it to me for a birthday or Christmas when I was somewhere between 11-13, so late 90s/early 00s, the book had an image of the aelethiometer on the cover and so the title fit pretty well. Same thing with Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, it was Sorcerer's Stone in the US. And I've read the movie tie-in LOTR series - after someone else read them for the second time - and he didn't say anything about the content being different.
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby Adacore » Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:11 am UTC

semicharmed wrote:It was actually released as The Golden Compass in the US originally; my grandparents gave it to me for a birthday or Christmas when I was somewhere between 11-13, so late 90s/early 00s, the book had an image of the aelethiometer on the cover and so the title fit pretty well. Same thing with Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, it was Sorcerer's Stone in the US.

The difference there, though, is that in the UK the Harry Potter movie was still called Philosopher's Stone (in agreement with the book, not with the US movie), whereas the Dark Materials movie was titled The Golden Compass (as opposed to the book's Northern Lights title, in order to conform with the US movie title). Therefore, in the UK, it made sense to retitle the book for the film (otherwise people may not have realised that The Golden Compass and Northern Lights were the same thing); it made no sense to do so for Harry Potter, where the film title and book title were already the same in the UK.
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby SurgicalSteel » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:45 am UTC

Well, there are these:
http://www.amazon.com/Jurassic-Park-Jun ... 044840172X
http://www.amazon.com/Lost-World-Jurass ... 0448415763

They're novelizations of the movies and have no ties to the books unless it was in the film. I remember reading the Lost World one when I was a kid, and later reading the actual Lost World. It wasn't a simplification of the novel, like the Great Illustrated Classics books, it was a narrative of the movie.
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby PatrickRsGhost » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:59 am UTC

SurgicalSteel wrote:Well, there are these:
http://www.amazon.com/Jurassic-Park-Jun ... 044840172X
http://www.amazon.com/Lost-World-Jurass ... 0448415763

They're novelizations of the movies and have no ties to the books unless it was in the film. I remember reading the Lost World one when I was a kid, and later reading the actual Lost World. It wasn't a simplification of the novel, like the Great Illustrated Classics books, it was a narrative of the movie.


Never read those two specific ones, but I do remember reading other movie novelizations. The main one that sticks out in my mind is novelization of "The Addams Family", with Raul Julia and Angelica Houston. The novelization actually had more "meat" as far as the plot went. There were a few minor differences, such as at the very beginning, the carolers are singing "Deck the Halls" in the movie; in the novelization, they're described as singing "Jingle Bells".

One would suspect that some of the novelizations were taken from an original script of the movie, or else before the final script was approved, and before the movie was edited to what we saw in the theaters or on video. Sometimes scenes were filmed, tested, and found to drag the storyline out too long, so it's shortened and refilmed. Other parts are left out, either because they didn't add too much to the general plot, or dragged the story out too long.
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby PAstrychef » Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:30 pm UTC

And then there's The Thing. It started out as a short story, Who Goes There?, then became an episode of Outer Limits on TV, then became a movie, then Alan Dean Foster wrote a novelization of the movie, which was then remade at least twice. Although one remake I saw was in claymation, and used penguins for characters.
I've known authors to write scenes to make the book match the cover art. I know that my favorite hero of thrillers, a 6'4" 250 lb brick shithouse, is being played by Tom Cruise. I sort of doubt they could change the seventeen novels written to date to make Jack Reacher match Tom Cruise in height or heft.
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby semicharmed » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:19 am UTC

Adacore wrote:The difference there, though, is that in the UK the Harry Potter movie was still called Philosopher's Stone (in agreement with the book, not with the US movie), whereas the Dark Materials movie was titled The Golden Compass (as opposed to the book's Northern Lights title, in order to conform with the US movie title). Therefore, in the UK, it made sense to retitle the book for the film (otherwise people may not have realised that The Golden Compass and Northern Lights were the same thing); it made no sense to do so for Harry Potter, where the film title and book title were already the same in the UK.


Ahh, I didn't realize that. It makes sense, though - The Golden Compass and The Northern Lights don't seem related, at all, while the first book/movie was still "Harry Potter and the *Stone".

And Tom Cruise playing Reacher... seems wrong. I've only read a few of the Reacher books, but my head-Reacher looks nothing like Cruise. Also, I have seen (and used) a brick shithouse, and I think it might be smaller than the picture in my head of Reacher.
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby AvatarIII » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:19 am UTC

PAstrychef wrote:And then there's The Thing. It started out as a short story, Who Goes There?, the. Became an episode of Outer Limits on TV, then became a movie, then Alan Dean Foster wrote a novelization of the movie, which was then remade at least twice. Although one remake I saw was in claymation, and used penguins for characters.
I've known authors to write scenes to make the book match the cover art. I know that my favorite hero of thrillers, a 6'4" 250 lb brick shithouse, is being played by Tom Cruise. I sort of doubt they could change the seventeen novels written to date to make Jack Reacher match Tom Cruise in height or heft.


I'm not sure if the Pingu remake really counts,
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby Jorpho » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:31 am UTC

As I recall, The Bridges of Madison County had a book based on the movie based on the book, I guess since there was Money To Be Made. No idea what the differences are, though.
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby Adacore » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:16 am UTC

Obviously not quite the same, but most comic book movies qualify - they were all based on source material that was originally in book format, and many have novelisations which differ substantially from the original comic.
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby roband » Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:49 pm UTC

PAstrychef wrote:I know that my favorite hero of thrillers, a 6'4" 250 lb brick shithouse, is being played by Tom Cruise. I sort of doubt they could change the seventeen novels written to date to make Jack Reacher match Tom Cruise in height or heft.

Slight necro here, but are you aware of www.reddit.com/r/JackReacher?

I enjoy discussing the books and find it quite interesting.
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby rmsgrey » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:12 pm UTC

Hollywood isn't a big fan of Philip K Dick - though they seem to like some of his ideas - he kept the novelisation rights to Blade Runner and stuck with the original text of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep (the only changes being to the cover) - though there are official tie-in sequel novels. We Can Remember It For You Wholesale got turned into Total Recall, then Piers Anthony (of all people) wrote the novel version of Total Recall.
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Re: Differences between original version and movie tie-in.

Postby addams » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:02 pm UTC

Hell-o;
I want to type about a book.

The Book: F. 451.
It was made into a Movie.

I loved the Ending in The Movie.
The book may have ended differently.

It looked like a Happy Ending to Me.
It, sort of, looked like my life...

The Ending looked like two people walking in the woods.
They were talking about books. Memorized portions?

If I study up a bit I can do some Lincon Barnet. You?
What do you have memorized?

Back to The Book. This is about Books.
Books that were made into Movies.

F. 451 may have been better as aMovie.
I don't know. I did not read it. I watched the Movie.

One Movie/Book combo deals are Common.
Nearly everyone says, "The Book Was Better."

I think the Movie, ''Cannery Row", was better than The Book.
There may have been a recording of The Author reading that book.

I still liked The Movie. It was like a Song and Dance Musical.
Dark subject matter. I did not understand some of The Story; I liked The Dancing.

I read The Book on a Field Trip. What a weird trip. The teacher did not approve of Reading.
I was not watching my child or anyone else's. I was reading. On the bus; Reading. What?

Are parents asked to go along to work Security? oh. oooops.
Steinbeck. I was required to read Grapes of Wrath.
I read, Cannery Row, because The Movie was so Great.

That movie is a templet for a Community Theater.
A Cast of Tens. Everybody in Town can have a Camio performance!

F. 451. I liked The Movie. I liked it because The Ending was a good beginning.
People wandering around in The Woods talking about Books.

I like to do that. With the internet and small devices no one needs to memoize AnyThing!,,,,,oh much?
Is it easier to Memorize, "Uniqueness is so common a quality of living things, There is really, nothing Unique about it."

Or; The name of the Biologist, The name of the book, The password into Google, the jeeze....What if the cell tower is not in Line of Sight?

!Gasp! Some of those little devices can carry whole books or parts of books. !Gasp!
Those people may have a Library in their pocket. That's ok. What kind of Library?
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