Fire Brns wrote:No, I said it had purpose; the age is irrelevent. I could argue it has stayed in practice so long because it is a good idea.
Okay, I'll bite: What purpose is that? Because I haven't seen an actual purpose explained here beyond some nebulous notion that felons are going to vote in a way that isn't in our best interest.
CorruptUser wrote:2)It doesn't increase the prosperity of felons, but it increases everyone else's prosperity more than it reduces felons'. As for why it is ok to sacrifice the few for the many, it's because "fuck them, they are a menace to society anyway". Assuming the law actually was fair*, I really don't have a problem with that even as a quasi-Libertarian.
3)Poor voting decision would be something that harms society. Like, cutting the police force. It's an argument against felon voting, because again, assuming the law is fair*, fuck felons.
Let's not even get into the fact that you can't actually prove that felons would all vote to cut police funding, or vote for candidates who want to do the same. Let's just address the fact that you consider cutting police funding to be a poor voting decision.
Okay. So, anyone who votes to cut police funding has made a bad voting decision. Why not ban them from voting? "They haven't done anything wrong!"--Yes, they have
. They voted to cut police funding. And that's a 'poor voting decision' by your own words; decisions like that are why we aren't letting felons vote.
So let's just take this to its logical conclusion: Anyone who votes to cut police funding has made a poor voting decision, and is, by definition, someone who shouldn't vote: I.e., a felon. So let's make voting to cut police funding illegal. Anyone who votes for it--or runs on that platform--will be immediately made into a felon.
Fire Brns wrote:3)Disenfranchisement is the government removing the rights of the people; felons waive their right when they commit a felony.
. We do not strip your rights away the moment you commit a felony in America. If we did, it would be permissible to inject felons with crack-infused steroids and throw them into televised death-cage matches for sport.
We violate your rights to protect the rights of others. Your rights still exist, but we're selectively violating some of them for the sake of protecting everyone else. How does stripping you of your right to representation protect other people's rights? The burden of proof is on you; you
want to take rights away. Prove that what we gain is worth it.