Steax wrote: jakovasaur wrote: Princess Marzipan wrote:
jakovasaur wrote:This shit is extremely annoying. I am pro-SOPA after these shenanigans.
A taste of what SOPA would be like is so infuriating that you like SOPA now?
It's just spite, mostly. I'd prefer to have somebody try to screw me over in pursuit of their own interests, rather somebody screwing me over and pretending like they're helping me. I don't really think there is much to be worried about, so this seems like an unnecessary hassle.
I'm assuming you're SOPA/PIPA-neutral. Care to elaborate why you assume that position? I'm curious.
Jakovasaur: you're fine with people suing you over alleged copyright infringement and taking down your site from DNS, from the ISP, taking away your advertisements and removing your financial services before
Even Wikipedia, despite having a lawyer, would be forced to comply with SOPA takedowns, with no legal recourse. (It is the responsibility of the hyperlink's owner to challenge the decision. Wikipedia would not have the power to legally defend the links on its site for you). Much like DMCA, (which has at least a 37% abuse rate according to Google), SOPA will be abused. According to Google, 37% of the DMCA takedowns it requests don't even have to deal with copyright infringement. The problem is, with so much more power in the SOPA takedowns, you'd be risking more than just a single image or video clip. Entire sites can be wiped off the internet if they so choose. And by "they", I mean the corporations with lawyers and the Attorney General.
(As stated before, I might be fine with the Attorney General having the powers against only foreign sites. But that goes into the DNSSEC issues and other online security problems.)
Obviously, websites like Google and Wikipedia would be affected, as people force Google / Wikipedia to take down LINKS
to websites. (It is no longer just a problem to have copyrighted material on your site, but to even link to a website that allegedly has copyrighted material. And again, that alleged site could be put on this blacklist before a trial was conducted). Fortunately, they have lawyers and wouldn't be subjected to the worst of SOPA. The smaller hobby sites like XKCD, small companies (say... employing less than 10 people), hiring a legal defense team to beat back unproven allegations
so that you can keep your site up just seems bad for the internet in general.
And for what? Its not like "The Pirate Bay" will be hard to get to anymore. You'd be able to proxy that tracker and still download all your stuff peer-to-peer. It doesn't address the issue of "Magnet Links" at all either.
I am glad that Google, Wikipedia, Reddit, xkcd, etc. etc. are all raising awareness on this issue. Well... maybe not glad... it'd be suicidal to not raise awareness. These are bills that affect the very fabric of the internet, written by ignorant congressmen who don't know how things were worked. With 80% of the money going to support of SOPA
, the risk that these bills will pass is non-negligible.
First Strike +1/+1 and Indestructible.