New (old) anti-piracy threats -- ACTA etc.

For the serious discussion of weighty matters and worldly issues. No off-topic posts allowed.

Moderators: Azrael, Moderators General, Prelates

New (old) anti-piracy threats -- ACTA etc.

Postby 1337stephen » Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:33 am UTC

I have a fairly serious question, for the members of this forum and for Randall himself.

Why are we not drawing attention to the ACTA? With all of the anti-SOPA/PIPA folks (myself included, mind you) feeling rather satisfied with themselves right about now, shouldn't this be on all of our minds right now?

In the unlikely event one of you doesn't know what I'm referring to, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement in my opinion, this is a bigger threat than SOPA or PIPA because its effects would be global.

I actually wanted to email Randall directly about this, but the only two email addresses I could readily locate were the store and press emails, and this doesn't really fit in to either of those. I actually made a forum account just to see if I could get an answer.
1337stephen
 
Posts: 4
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:16 am UTC

Re: A new (old) threat

Postby Azrael » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:32 pm UTC

If you're looking to contact Randall directly, you've come to the wrong place.

I might add that if he wanted to publicize a general contact email besides the two you mention, I'm sure he would have done so.
Image
User avatar
Azrael
Unintentionally Intoxicated
 
Posts: 5779
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:16 am UTC
Location: Boston

Re: A new (old) threat

Postby 1337stephen » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:33 pm UTC

Well, regardless, my question still stands to everyone else. Why is this issue not being put in the spotlight just as much as SOPA or PIPA?
1337stephen
 
Posts: 4
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:16 am UTC

Re: A new (old) threat

Postby Randomizer » Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:02 am UTC

Could you add ACTA to the thread title? Thanks.

Sure.

- Az


I didn't really know what it was but heard it mentioned in the course of SOPA/PIPA discussions, and I've just started branching out to finding out other bullshit going on. I just looked around and I found one video from 2009 that explains why ACTA (Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement) sucks well enough. According to the video it was being negotiated in secret so all they had was leaked documents to go on, and one of the things the act would do is force ISPs to spy on their users. I don't know how/if it's changed since that video.

Looking around some more... Wait, this got signed into law? But it still needs ratification, so does that mean there's any way to stop it, or would it have to be repealed now, which is a whole 'nother process? http://www.ustr.gov/acta
The United States, Australia, Canada, Korea, Japan, New Zealand, Morocco, and Singapore signed the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) at a ceremony on October 1, 2011, in Tokyo, marking an important step forward in the international fight against trademark counterfeiting and copyright piracy. Representatives of the remaining ACTA negotiating parties, the European Union, Mexico, and Switzerland, attended the ceremony and confirmed their continuing strong support for and preparations to sign the Agreement as soon as practicable. The next step in bringing the ACTA into force is the deposit of instruments of ratification, acceptance, or approval from each of the signatories. The agreement will enter into force following the deposit of the sixth such instrument.
The Final Text of the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (May 2011) is here. (.pdf)

There's actually a whole bunch of bullshit going on that needs to be dealt with - we should compile a list. The eff has a page of things to get angry about: https://www.eff.org/action Apparently there's something called the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement going on. From the eff:
Don't Let TPP Become the New ACTA: Contact Your Lawmakers and Demand Transparency!

The Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement is a trade agreement currently being negotiated by the United States and eight other countries. Like ACTA, the TPP is being negotiated in secret, and on a fast timetable. We don’t know what’s in the TPP IP chapter, and that’s what worries us. Entertainment industry executives who are members of the Industry Trade Advisory Committee will likely get to see the agreement drafts – again – but the rest of us will be kept in the dark unless we speak up now.

From http://www.ustr.gov/tpp :
On November 12, 2011, the Leaders of the nine Trans-Pacific Partnership countries – Australia, Brunei Darussalam, Chile, Malaysia, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, Vietnam, and the United States – announced the achievement of the broad outlines of an ambitious, 21st-century Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement that will enhance trade and investment among the TPP partner countries, promote innovation, economic growth and development, and support the creation and retention of jobs. President Obama along with the other eight TPP leaders agreed to seek to finalize an agreement in the coming year.
Belial wrote:I'm all outraged out. Call me when the violent rebellion starts.
Randomizer
 
Posts: 280
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:23 am UTC
Location: My walls are full of hungry wolves.

Re: A new (old) threat

Postby Proginoskes » Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:56 am UTC

Randomizer wrote:Could you add ACTA to the thread title? Thanks.

I didn't really know what it was but heard it mentioned in the course of SOPA/PIPA discussions, and I've just started branching out to finding out other bullshit going on. I just looked around and I found one video from 2009 that explains why ACTA (Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement) sucks well enough. According to the video it was being negotiated in secret so all they had was leaked documents to go on, and one of the things the act would do is force ISPs to spy on their users. I don't know how/if it's changed since that video.


According to ACTA, the person being charged with copyright violation would have to prove that their material does not violate copyright. This is the exact opposite of the rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights (due process, "innocent until proven guilty", etc.). It is NOT constitutional.
User avatar
Proginoskes
 
Posts: 309
Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:07 am UTC
Location: Sitting Down

Re: New (old) anti-piracy threats -- ACTA etc.

Postby 1337stephen » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:07 pm UTC

There certainly must be something we can do, but the issue itself needs to be brought to the attention of everyone it would affect, just like SOPA and PIPA were. Even given the amount of secrecy surrounding the ACTA, I find it surprising to say the least that there isn't a huge amount of internet rage over it - the leaks took place a long time ago, I found out about this in something like late 2009, and I even remember reading articles about it and talking to people who wanted to organize some kind of protest over it. After a while all of that seemed to quiet down though, which I guess is in and of itself pretty frightening.

Another issue that deserves attention is a bill called PCIPA, being pushed by our good friend Representative Lamar Smith. The bill is designed to expand laws against child pornography. I'm not arguing against its goals, it's the kind of thing that needs to be stamped out wherever possible. However, part of the bill requires all ISPs to keep an 18 month log of everything that every customer does on the internet, including bank transactions, personal email, and purchases from online stores, in addition to EVERYTHING else. Am I the only one who gets VERY FRIGHTENED to see someone in our government trying to do something like this?

Edit: I forgot to mention, with that PCIPA bill being pushed, guess what the federal government has to do to access your 18 month long log of internet activity? Ask for it. As long as you are suspected of a crime, that's any crime and I mean suspected, not charged or arrested or convicted, they may access that log with no warrant.
1337stephen
 
Posts: 4
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:16 am UTC

Re: A new (old) threat

Postby Proginoskes » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:35 am UTC

Proginoskes wrote:According to ACTA, the person being charged with copyright violation would have to prove that their material does not violate copyright. This is the exact opposite of the rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights (due process, "innocent until proven guilty", etc.). It is NOT constitutional.


Of course, if you're in that situation, you might want to try the Starbuck's Pebbles Defense ( see http://jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia ... bbles.html if this term is unfamiliar to you, ye unenlightened ones), which is: "All the file is, is a sequence of 0s and 1s. It's only when inputted into a program that it becomes a copyright violation."

If you open a Michael Jackson MP3 with Paint, you don't get an illegally-downloaded song. It's the actual player (most likely WiMP) that is creating the copyright violation, so Microsoft is the true criminal here.

Also, a program can be written to turn any file into a copyright violation. So it's not the file; it's how it's interpretted.

Now give me back my 0s and 1s.
User avatar
Proginoskes
 
Posts: 309
Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:07 am UTC
Location: Sitting Down

Re: New (old) anti-piracy threats -- ACTA etc.

Postby Randomizer » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:32 am UTC

For what we can do, currently there's a poll happening to determine which companies that support SOPA we should mass boycott. (Page with information and the poll) (Poll by itself) Also, there's a whitehouse.gov petition: End ACTA and Protect our right to privacy on the Internet. If someone, or a group, wanted to make a video, factsheet, or somesuch talking about the related things going on and how they fit together, that would be a great thing to pass around. Here's an image (It's too wide to display fully on the forum. :p). It focuses on SOPA, but ACTA does get a mention. Are there any changes/additions you think would be good to make to it? Here's some music: "Weird Al" Yankovic - Don't Download This Song, MC Lars - Download This Song [Official Music Video], INTERNET FIGHT SONG! (Anti-SOPA/PIPA/ACTA song - Funk Vigilante), Stop the SOPA Song, STOP SOPA - ANTI SOPA SONG, "Firewall" (Say NO to #SOPA and #Protect-IP). This Ted Talk has Eric Whitacre: A virtual choir 2,000 voices strong, which to me demonstrates the power of unpaid artistic collaboration over the internet. Here's the final version of the piece: Eric Whitacre - Eric Whitacre's Virtual Choir 2.0, 'Sleep'. Here's the first one he made, with 185 people: Eric Whitacre's Virtual Choir - 'Lux Aurumque'

Here's a pretty good image. It's about SOPA/PIPA, but mentions OPEN, URAA, ACTA, TPP, PCIPA, and the Commercial Felony Streaming Act:
Spoiler:
Image

For another thing to raise an eyebrow at, this with regards to patents, there's this from Wikipedia:
A first-to-file rule is followed in most countries other than the United States. Under the rule, regardless of who the first inventor was, the person or legal entity who files a patent application first is the one who is granted the patent. In 2011, President Obama signed the Leahy-Smith America Invents Act which changes the US to a first to file system for patent applications filed on or after March 16, 2013.
Legislation information and text of H.R.1249. Sponsor: Rep Smith, Lamar [TX-21] (introduced 3/30/2011)

Um... shouldn't the person who invented the thing get priority over the guy who filed first? >_> And it's the same Lamar Smith is the same guy who sponsored SOPA and HR 1981 (PCIPA). What a guy! Oh, and Lamar Smith Caught Infringing On Photographer's Copyright.

Another thing to take a look at is OPEN, which is being promoted as an alternative to SOPA/PIPA.

For Canadians, there's a short YouTube video, The Fight for Fair Copyright. The petition it links to is out of date, as it lists the bill as C-32, which died last session. The petition says that bill C-32 is good in a lot of ways, but that the anit-DRM circumvention portion needs to be removed. The bill was reintroduced as Bill C-11. Text of the bill is here.

A college student is being extradited from the UK over a copyright infringement case. There's a related Should UK citizens face charges for US crimes? thread in Serious Business.

Music industry sues Irish government for refusing to bring in a SOPA style law which blocks websites.

Italian Wikipedia Shuts Down in Protest of Wiretap Act is something that happened last October, and from my recollection the protest was successful.

There's the Megaupload shutdown thread. Before that the Universal Music Group had filed a false take down notice on the Megaupload song (song here), and then Universal has 'Tech News Today' episode yanked from YouTube for reporting on MegaUpload promo video. A music artist on Youtube made a song criticizing the shutdown.

In February of last year a domain with 84,000 (mostly legal) websites was seized by the ICE during a child pornography investigation.

Also, I have a couple posts in the SOPA talk, yo. thread: Post one: Supreme Court Chooses SOPA/PIPA Protest Day To Give A Giant Middle Finger To The Public Domain Here's the .PDF of the ruling: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/10-545.pdf and post two with links to info on how CNET, Disney, etc. were promoting piracy.

Sockmonkey on the SOPA thread said "Has nobody pointed out that crap like SOPA is to make things impossible for the small independant artists who offer their stuff cheaper or even for free online and are the chief threat to the recording industry?" - Given everything I've seen, I think it's a fair assessment of the situation. And in regards to Lamar Smith, Steax said "Isn't it clear this guy just wants ways to be able to take down people/things online?" - I'd agree with that.

Also, don't forget how we're being X-rayed and felt up by the Transportation Security Administration in the name of safety! And they're not just in airports anymore. Besides being against SOPA, the Ronpaul is holding a campaign to end the TSA (official campaign site here). In the other direction, from Wikipedia "On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama signed a four-year extension of three key provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act: [2] roving wiretaps, searches of business records (the "library records provision"), and conducting surveillance of "lone wolves" — individuals suspected of terrorist-related activities not linked to terrorist groups.[3]" News article: Obama Signs Last-Minute Patriot Act Extension.
Belial wrote:I'm all outraged out. Call me when the violent rebellion starts.
Randomizer
 
Posts: 280
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:23 am UTC
Location: My walls are full of hungry wolves.

Re: New (old) anti-piracy threats -- ACTA etc.

Postby 1337stephen » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:27 pm UTC

For anyone interested there's this www.stopacta.info

It appears to be a collection of much of the information on the ACTA available, along with ways people can help, both on and off the internet.
1337stephen
 
Posts: 4
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:16 am UTC

Re: New (old) anti-piracy threats -- ACTA etc.

Postby Randomizer » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:39 am UTC

Time for round two!

There's an "Internet Whiteout" planned for April 20th, 2012. (reddt thread here)
Spoiler:
Image

The Serval Rhizome Retriever Prototype allows file transfers (and phone calls) between cell phones not connected by ISPs or cell phone towers - they link directly to each other. (Not sure of the range, though). Here is the project's website.

The EFF has a page on How to Remove Your Google Search History Before Google's New Privacy Policy Takes Effect March 1st.

In Canada there's Bill C-309 to make it illegal to wear a mask "during riots or unlawful assemblies."
According to RT "The Investigative Powers for the 21st Century Act (Bill C-51) is legislation that isn’t new to Canadian Parliament, but after a series of additions and other changes, lawmakers there are expected to begin discussion on it this week. If passed, law enforcement there will be able to monitor all Internet and telephone activity from anyone, anywhere in the country, without having to obtain a warrant."
Conservative Bill C-30 will let police spy on Canadians online: "Bill C-30 includes, as CBC.ca reports online: requiring telecommunications and Internet providers to give up subscriber data, including name, address, mobile phone number and IP address (your online ID). And that’s before they get a warrant."

In Germany, February 25th, 2012 (Saturday) is scheduled for more anti-ACTA demonstrations. Here's the German version of the video and Locations of the demonstrations. Here's other countries holding demonstrations.

SOPA, meet SOCA - British Police Take Down Pirates: The Serious Organised Crime Agency, "SOCA – an organisation intended to combat gang violence, terrorism and organised crime – is here being aimed and released by the music industry at those it feels have wronged it." and "Although the proposed changes to Sweden’s Electronic Communications Act (LEK) are ostensibly being proposed to target fine-punishable offenses such as child grooming or even bullying, their scope would encompass petty file-sharing too."

Reddit wants us to skip Batman and produce a corresponding call flood Friday, July 20th on its opening weekend, and to see the movie later instead. "Millions will be spent on advertising to ensure that people will see TDKR opening weekend, unlike gas companies that don't care when you buy their gas. It will be easy to hijack the movie's hype, as news programs would rather show a contraversial debate that can go viral than fans dressed in Batman costumes waiting in line."

Good news in the Netherlands: Loosen up copyright law, says Dutch government. (Well, they're talking about it anyway - I didn't see any specific laws being proposed)

Single Movie Download Could See Swedes Prosecuted: "The Swedish Government wants to implement a change in the law which has the potential to make Sweden one of the toughest countries in the world to share files. Currently file-sharer identities can only be obtained following crimes worthy of a prison sentence, but if the authorities have their way the threshold will be lowered to include any offenses which could lead to a fine."

We have a thread about how, in the US, the FCC seeks public comment on communication blackouts.
There is H.R. 3523, sponsored by: Rep. Michael Rogers [R-MI8]. According to the EFF, "H.R. 3523, also known as the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act of 2011, would let companies spy on users and share private information with the federal government and other companies with near-total immunity from civil and criminal liability."
Here's another article talking about H.R. 3523 as well as three other related bills, Former Chairmen of the 9/11 Commission Call for Speedy Consideration of Cybersecurity Legislation, mentioning the Cybersecurity Act of 2012 (S 2105), the Strengthening and Enhancing Cybersecurity by Using Research, Education, Information and Technology (SECURE IT) Act of 2012 (S 2151) and the Promoting and Enhancing Cybersecurity and Information Sharing Effectiveness (PRECISE) Act (HR 3674).
I have no idea if the bill is good or bad, but here's another article about the Cybersecurity Act of 2012, S. 2105. From Mother Nature Network: New cybersecurity bill would define 'critical' infrastructure. There's a governmental press release: LIEBERMAN, COLLINS, ROCKEFELLER, FEINSTEIN OFFER BIPARTISAN, COMPREHENSIVE BILL TO SECURE FED AND CRITICAL PRIVATE SECTOR CYBER SYSTEMS. The bill is 205 pages long and I haven't found anything giving a case against it yet, but I'm thinking it's worth keeping an eye on. Here's a video of Liberman introducing the act.

From techdirt: How Much Is Enough? We've Passed 15 'Anti-Piracy' Laws In The Last 30 Years.

Oh, and the US Congressional Election is on Tuesday, November 6, 2012, the same day as the Presidential election.
Here's the list of co-sponsors for SOPA and here's the list for PIPA, if you want to vote against them.
The US congressmen coming up for re-election in 2012 are all Representatives in all states, and the following Senators (ordered by state):

I wrote an email to my congressmen about the Uruguay Round Agreement Act and got a response about ACTA. A slightly better version of the pic I used is here, and here is the original public domain image (no text). Here's my letter to Texas congressman Kay Hutchison:
Hi,

I would like to encourage you to repeal the Uruguay Round Agreement Act. I took an image from the public domain and superimposed some words on it to express my sentiment, and then uploaded it here: http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3237 ... aeckel.png

Information on and the text of the bill can be found here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d103:h.r.05110:

The Uruguay Round Agreement Act, which passed in congress in 1994 but which I only became aware of in the past few months, set a terrible precedent. Under the act, certain material which had already passed into the public domain was removed from it and copyright re-applied. I think it should be obvious why this is bad. For one it destabilizes the public domain, as now there can be no guarantee that material which is legal to use, copy, and make derivative works from today will be legal to do so tomorrow. I would not want those who publish Mother Goose, Brothers Grimm, and other cultural legacies to suddenly be forced to stop printing. I would not want someone who, inspired by a novel which had recently gone in the public domain and has worked hard making a movie adaptation to find his investment suddenly worthless and what have become a new work of art snuffed in the cradle because the laws changed out from under him. I would not want the time I spent to find materials and ensure the legality and copyright status of, which I had gathered to legally use and distribute how I wished, to then become a mass of illegal content which I no longer had rights to. I do not want our culture chipped away from us.

I encourage you to restore our culture and press back against the terrible precedent set by the Uruguay Round Agreement Act by sponsoring and voting for legislation to repeal it.

Thank you,

[my name here]

P.S. I am also against SOPA and PROTECT IP, ACTA, HR 1981 (PCIPA), the Transportation Security Administration (the airlines should handle security, not the government), and: war, assassinations, and/or sanctions against Iran. I just mailed in my voter registration card today so I can vote this year.

This is the response I got on the 24th of February:
Dear Friend:
Thank you for contacting me regarding the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA). I welcome your thoughts and comments.

The ACTA is an agreement negotiated by nearly forty industrialized countries, including the United States. The agreement's intended purpose is the establishment of minimum international standards for intellectual property rights (IPR), and the prevention of counterfeiting and piracy of digital products.

The Obama Administration negotiated the ACTA as an executive agreement. Therefore, the agreement does not require congressional approval, unless the agreement contains statutory changes to current U.S. law. The United States Trade Representative (USTR) claims that ACTA is consistent with U.S. law and enacting legislation from Congress is unnecessary.

Counterfeiting and theft of intellectual property affect many American businesses and jeopardize hundreds of thousands of American jobs (including many Texas businesses and workers). Appropriate efforts to prevent counterfeiting and piracy are important to our economy. They are in our national interest.

The Obama Administration's unilateral actions, however, raise two important questions. First, is the Administration's end-run to avoid Congressional review constitutionally supportable? Second, without Congressional review, how can we be satisfied that the ACTA would strike a constructive balance between protecting U.S. economic interests and individuals' online privacy?

As these questions (including potential litigation) are debated, and as the Administration seeks to move forward with ACTA implementation, please be assured that I will follow developments closely and keep your comments in mind.

I appreciate hearing from you, and I hope that you will not hesitate to contact me on any issue that is important to you.

Sincerely,
Kay Bailey Hutchison
United States Senator

284 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
202-224-5922 (tel)
202-224-0776 (fax)
http://hutchison.senate.gov

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY to this message as this mailbox is only for the delivery of outbound messages, and is not monitored for replies. Due to the volume of mail Senator Hutchison receives, she requests that all email messages be sent through the contact form found on her website at http://hutchison.senate.gov/?p=email_kay .

If you would like more information about issues pending before the Senate, please visit the Senator's website at http://hutchison.senate.gov . You will find articles, floor statements, press releases, and weekly columns on current events.

Thank you.

While I appreciate the response about ACTA, the letter I received indicates that no one actually read my letter, as if they had, then in their response they would have at least acknowledged that ACTA wasn't the only thing in my letter to them. Obviously next time I contact my congressmen I will have to make a phone call, as when speaking to a live human I will know my thoughts will have at least been heard.

I had sent the same message to John Cornyn (just a couple words were different) at the same time as Kay, and apparently neither John nor his staff read my letter either, as it too does not acknowledge any content exists besides ACTA. Here is what I received on the 16th of March:
Dear [my name here]:

Thank you for contacting me regarding global efforts to combat intellectual property theft. I appreciate having the benefit of your comments on this matter.

Rapid advances in technology have led to the development of numerous products and services Americans use every day; including, digital television and radio, cellular communications, life-saving medications, and computer hardware and software. Continued technological advancement is vital to the growth of our country's economy, and as such lawmakers must continue to protect intellectual property rights while preserving an open market for ideas and personal expression.

However, in today’s global marketplace, U.S. law enforcement officials are often hampered in their efforts to combat intellectual property infringements that originate abroad. Many developing nations with lax technology policies and limited enforcement mechanisms are responsible for the loss of billions of dollars in intellectual property, harming the growth of U.S. technology developers and manufacturers. However, violators are not limited to developing countries; several fully developed nations have outdated policies that do not reflect the reality of today’s global marketplace.

For these reasons, the office of the U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) has commenced a multilateral discussion concerning global intellectual property rights, known as the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA). The final text of ACTA was released by USTR on November 15, 2010, and proposes a plurilateral agreement to strengthen international cooperation, enforcement practices, and legal frameworks for addressing counterfeiting and piracy. The full, final text of ACTA may be viewed at: http://www.ustr.gov/acta.

The United States is a leader in innovation, and to protect the investment made by our innovators, we must also lead the effort to combat global piracy. While the USTR is the lead trade negotiator on behalf of the executive branch of government, any change in international trade policy must be enacted by Congress before entering into effect. I understand your concerns, and you may be certain that I will keep your views in mind should relevant legislation come before the full Senate.

I appreciate having the opportunity to represent you in the United States Senate. Thank you for taking the time to contact me.

Sincerely,
JOHN CORNYN
United States Senator


517 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Tel: (202) 224-2934
Fax: (202) 228-2856
http://www.cornyn.senate.gov

Please sign up for my monthly newsletter at http://www.cornyn.senate.gov/newsletter.

PLEASE NOTE:
Due to the nature of electronic communication, if you did not receive this e-mail directly from my office, I cannot guarantee that the text has not been altered. If you have questions about the validity of this message, or would like to respond to this message, please use the web form available at my website, http://www.cornyn.senate.gov/contact.
Belial wrote:I'm all outraged out. Call me when the violent rebellion starts.
Randomizer
 
Posts: 280
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:23 am UTC
Location: My walls are full of hungry wolves.

Re: New (old) anti-piracy threats -- ACTA etc.

Postby freakish777 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:05 pm UTC

Randomizer wrote:Oh, and the US Congressional Election is on Tuesday, November 6, 2012, the same day as the Presidential election.
Here's the list of co-sponsors for SOPA and here's the list for PIPA, if you want to vote against them.
The US congressmen coming up for re-election in 2012 are all Representatives in all states, and the following Senators (ordered by state):



Bump.

Being that I live in NY State, my research is only on Gillibrand. But according to OpenCongress.org, Gillibrand received $2.5 million+ to support SOPA and $800,000+ to support PIPA. Furthermore she continued to support both of them well after the large public outcry against them (including rallies in the streets outside her and Schumer's offices).
User avatar
freakish777
 
Posts: 328
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:14 pm UTC


Return to Serious Business

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Farpappestals, IronicalVitriol and 9 guests