Griffin wrote:Because seriously, thread after thread, the only thing I've ever really seen you demonstrate is an inability to see things from any point of view other than your own. If it doesn't fit into YOU (irrational, poorly informed) worldview, then by definition it is irrational and poorly informed.
Frankly, I find that fairly laughable coming from you, but such a response doesn't really get us anywhere. If you hold this opinion of me, then kudos. I continually correct myself and admit fault in my own arguments when I find it/have it pointed out to me, a forum/community/argumentative strength I cannot claim to have ever witnessed in you.
I have on at least one point here given cited reasoning backing my assumption that this publicity stunt is stupid (The EQ of Orcas compared to dolphins), and have suggested looking to further reading provided that suggests PETA isn't really about the 'ET' it claims to be. If you find it so shocking that one could continue holding an opinion that differs from your own, I would ask you to keep it to yourself in the future.
But, given that we had an almost verbatim exchange in the Occupy Thread, I'm going to simply state that, once again, washing everyone who disagrees with YOU into a fine category of irrational or poorly informed, in the face of demonstrating their rational and informed perspectives is pretty childish.
Griffin wrote:Also, chickens ARE fully sentient and have a range of emotions.
Citation needed. I think there's even a thread dedicated to defining 'sentience'. I would strongly suggest that chickens are not. Out of curiosity, do you have any experience with animal behavior, biology, or the like?
omgryebread wrote:PETA is also not representative of animal rights activists!
This is certainly true, I'll grant. I wager there are informed animal rights activists out there, but because this thread is about PETA, and I wrote 'my experiences with MOST activists', the point still comes down to awaiting some sensibility or intelligence from this group. I will clarify and state that I am not under the impression that animal rights activist = idiot, but the particular activists we are talking about here, and everyone I have ever personally encountered, are.
Also, I'm a little surprised no one jumped on my statement about SeaWorld not definitively doing any harm to these animals by holding them in captivity; after a bit of reading, I'm completely redacting that claim. I wouldn't call it slavery, because Orcas aren't people, but I would readily accept that it is cruel to keep an animal used to swimming hundreds of km a day, in an enclosure twice it's length. As a PR stunt drawing attention to the mistreatment of Orcas, this is of questionable efficacy. But I fully agree with Dream's statement that 'decent treatment of Orcas' and 'Orcas in captivity' is not a statement SeaWorld is capable of making, nor I in claiming.