TheHMan wrote:davver wrote: I judge people based on how they treat other people, and women treat beta males worse then animals. They are selfish, shallow, and cruel. How will you feel guilty about some beta male trying to even the playing field against that. When I look for spiritual guidance, I usually feel something within me telling me what the right thing to do is. With women I simply accept that their sexual natures are perverse and selfish, and that I have to satisfy those perverse needs if HULK WANT to get laid. Sometimes its worth the trouble, sometimes its not.
I agree with some of your points, but I disagree that it's women's nature selfish, shallow and cruel towards beta males. Think about it from a evolutionary standpoint : women are attracted to alpha males simply because those are the guys that are the most likely to protect and provide for their offspring. They don't consciously go "Wow, this is such a nice guy. He's got a good job and nice shoes, therefore I could feel attracted", they simply react to what their hearts tells them (as do men). Sure, there are those who are needlessly cruel when they could simply be cordial and polite, but remember the laws of attraction. Blaming either men or women for being attracted by X and not Y is as futile as blaming human nature.
Your right. In fact the #1 thing you will get from evo-pysch is to not hate on peoples (flawed, regrettable, depressing) natures. Its inevitable. Its fate. You can't get mad at fate.
I mostly rage against people using others. Women use beta males, a lot. Women are not up front about their intentions, a lot. Women are not honest, a lot. Some of this is confusion, but a lot of it is deliberate selfishness. **misogyny not found** is real, and people like to cash in on it. Personally, politically, even in a stupid internet argument.
The extent to which you hate depends on what kind of agency you ascribe to people. If women are adults and the moral equivalent of men, they should be judged on the same moral grounds, regardless of their primal natures. Modern women would fail such a test. If they are not to be treated as adults with agency, but rather tool using monkees who respond to brain chemistry and an evolutionary strategy that told them to manipulate men for their personal advantage to survive, then you can't hate on them. Of course if you adopt the latter people will rail on you for "de-humanizing" women. You can't have it both ways though. If I had to sum up modern feminism, "having it both ways," would do a good job.