Nomic 16.0

[careyhammer]

I abstain from voting on Fiery's motion to honor titles. (Now 1 for, 1 against, 1 abstain).
Buy: investment for 8 points

D'oh!
Carey is a him!

[orangedragonfire]

The most recent State of the Nomic is wrong: Odin's motion to introduce Drinks at Dusk had its votes reset to 0 when Odin amended his motion. That means all vote counts since have been wrong.

Actually, it only resets votes for the motion.

People aren't interested in a duelling tournament? It has prizes!

I don't think we can get 8 active players for a tournament. That's my main problem with the idea.


@Snarky: You forgot to update the link to the chess game board.

[Snark]

@Fiery
Can you give me tips on where to move in chess next? I was thinking d4, but I'm not that good at chess.
Also, I fixed the link.

@Carey
My most sincere and heartfelt apologies to you, sir.
Charity: Give 1 of my points to Carey.

[careyhammer]

Now drinks at dusk is no more random than sabers at dawn.

Maybe we should use the wiki to post the list of all motions?

I make a motion to introduce a new dueling method, Midnight Thread Necromancy.
After the post by the judge that starts the duel, every post by one of the participants scores square minutes equal to the square of the number of minutes since the previous post to this thread. The duel is won by the first participant to reach 3600 square minutes. For purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as Carey's motion to introduce Thread Necromancy.

[orangedragonfire]

The problem with d4 is that is would allow them to take e4 with their horse. And that can lead to a whole lot of trouble, as far as I can see. I suggest Ng5, but I'm not really very good at chess either, so there may be something important I have missed.

/edit: I cast my vote in favor of Carey's motion to introduce Thread Necromancy. (now 1 for, 0 against)
/edit2: We have a wiki?

[careyhammer]

I was thinking we might use the Xkcd wiki. http://Wiki.xkcd.com
Does Fiery have two current motions? Isn't that against the rules?

[Snark]

I cast my vote against Carey's motion to introduce Thread Necromancy. (now 1 for, 1 against) because I don't want Nomic to be filled with a bunch of useless posts.

White: Bg5
Current board

I make a motion to introduce a new dueling method, which shall be added to the dueling rule if this motion is accepted.
Dueling method: Mousetrap at Sunset

1. The duel starts when the judge says so in a post and will last 24 hours from the time of that post.
2. In the opening post, the judge will provide links to two Wikipedia articles, which he will title A1 and A2.
3. Duelers will then post link paths from A1 to A2 with the goal of minimizing the number of links it takes to travel from A1 to A2, while staying within Wikipedia and clicking only on links within the article (not Random Article, Featured Content, or the like).
4. Duelers may post as many different link paths as they like.
5. Any edited posts of the duelers will be entirely disregarded for the purposes of the duel.
6. Players who are not dueling (including the judge) who try to help the duelers in any way will incur a penalty of 5 points.
7. Players are not allowed to edit Wikipedia articles in ways that would help themselves or hurt their opponent. Any violations of this rule will result in a 10 point deduction, loss of the duel, and permanent loss of honor (and failure to regain honor).
8. After 24 hours from the time of the judge's duel-starting post, no more submissions are accepted from the duelers.
9. After the 24 hour submission period is over, the judge verifies the solutions and declares a winner. The winner is the dueler who has posted the shortest link path. In case of a tie, the dueler who posted their solution first wins.

For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as Snarky's motion to add an epic dueling method involving Wikipedia.

An example game:
Judge: A1 and A2
Dueler 1: A1, Step 1, Step 2, A2
Dueler 2: A1, Step 1, A2
Judge: Dueler 2 wins! Blah, blah, blah!

[careyhammer]

I cast my vote in favor of Snarky's motion to add an epic dueling method involving Wikipedia (now 1 for, 0 against)
Snarky, please penalize Fiery four points for breaking rule §005 and remove his motion from the state of the Nomic.

[Snark]

He's Grand High Poobah of the Nomic and thus allowed to have two motions active at once.

[careyhammer]

D'oh! You're right, my bad.
I request clarification on rules 5 and 19. They contradict.

[Snark]

(6 points to Snarky for investments)
(4 points to Carey for investments, because he bought the third investment AFTER page 7 started)
(6 points to Fiery for investments)
(2 points to Odin for investments)
(4 points to Spikey for investments)
(5 points to Carey for having honor)
(5 points to Fiery for having honor)
(5 points to Odin for having honor)
(-1 point to Snarky for giving point to Carey)
(1 point to Carey for receiving point from Snarky)
(-8 points to Carey for buying third investment)
(0 points to Snarky for The State of the Nomic because no new motions have been passed, failed, withdrawn, or amended since the previous SotN)

The State of the Nomic:

Players:

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Username         Nickname Points Notes
Snark            Snarky    51    Double Down, 3 Investments
orangedragonfire Fiery     20    Arbiter, Grand High Poobah of the Nomic, Double Down, 3 Investments, Honor
ahammel          Alex      18
Odilo            Odin      14    1 Investment, Honor
careyhammer      Carey     13    Double Down, 3 Investments, Honor
Story Weaver     Spikey    12    2 Investments
shirosuzume      Suz       10
clockworkmonk    Monty     10
JesseScottOwen   Godwin     9
matt96           QQQVAR     4
Giallo           Yellow     0
BcNexus          Rezo       0
ostrichguy       Osrich     0

Chess Game:

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Board
Note to fellow Nomicans: Follow the link, make your move, click url, and copy and paste the first link to update this url.

Turn history:

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Team White      Team Black
Snarky 1. e4    e5    Carey
Fiery  2. d3    Nf6   matt96
Snarky 3. Nc3   Bb4   Odin
Fiery  4. a3    Bxc3+ Carey
Snarky 5. bxc3  c5    Odin
Fiery  6. Nf3   Nc6   Carey
Snarky 7. Bg5

Current Wagers:

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Accepted Wagers
Spikey's Wager #1 - I wager 2 points that the XKCD comic tomorrow (Monday 26th) will contain someone wearing a hat. Accepted by Snarky.
Winner: Snarky.

Carey's Wager #1 - I wager 1 point that Spikey will win a duel against Fiery before Sunday, April 1 2012 23:59:59 UTC. Accepted by Fiery

Unaccepted Wagers
None

Current Rules

Spoiler:

§001:
Any player may set forth a motion to take some official action. Official actions include, but are not limited to, amendment of or additions of rules.

§002:
All official motions must be in bold and italics and begin with "I make a motion to..." Additionally, official motions must end with "For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as [username]'s motion to...", followed by a summary of the motion's actions, with "[username]" replaced by the motion-maker's username. For example, one could say "I make a motion to promote ahammel to the cerimonial position of Grand High Poobah of the Nomic. For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as ahammel's motion to grant himself a meaningless title."

§003:
To vote in favor of or against a motion, one must declare one's vote by saying "I cast my vote [in favor of/against] [motion-maker]'s motion to [motion summary]." For example, one could say "I cast my vote in favor of ahammel's motion to grant himself a meaningless title.". No player shall vote for his own motion, and no player may vote for or against a motion more than once (though they may change their vote).

A player may also abstain from a vote by saying "I abstain from voting on [motion-maker]'s motion to [motion summary]."

The player who makes the deciding vote on a motion must after his/her vote write "Motion [passed/denied or appropriate synonym]. [Player name/nickname] [awarded/penalized or appropriate synonym] [# of points] points." where the number of points is as specified in the rules. For example, one could write "I cast my vote in favor of Alex's motion to grant himself a meaningless title. Motion passed. Alex awarded 4 points."

§004:
If at any point there are three votes from three different players in favor of a motion, the motion passes and is acted upon. If at any point there are three votes from three different players against a motion, the motion fails. If the motion passes, the next person to make a State of the Nomic post has to include any changes to the rules in their post.

§005:
At any time each player can only have one active motion. Before a player can make a new motion, his/her last motion must have been either accepted, refused or retracted.

§006:
Any player may at any point retract their active motion.

§007:
All players must pick a nickname. They are not allowed to vote or make motions until such time as they have chosen one. Nicknames cannot be more than six letters long. A nickname is officially chosen by writing "I pick the nickname [nickname]". Other players may cast votes against nicknames if they deem them inappropriate. Should a nickname receive three votes against, the player has to pick a new nickname.

§008:
One player will have the position of arbiter. Any other player may request clarification on any of the rules by posting "I request clarification on rule [rule number]...", followed by a brief description of the ambiguity. The arbiter will have the ability to amend the rule set to remove the ambiguity. The decisions of the arbiter may be overturned only by passing a motion to amend the rule set.
In the event that this motion passes an arbiter will be selected by the following procedure: any player may nominate any other player (including himself or herself) for the position by posting "I nominate [nickname] for the position of arbiter." Any player aside from the nominator may second the nomination by posting "I second the nomination of [nickname] for the position of arbiter". Once a player has been nominated and seconded by two different players, he or she must accept the positon by posting "I accept the position or arbiter". The first player to do so becomes the arbiter.
The arbiter may also be called upon to resolve disagreements regarding the outcome of wagers. If the arbiter himself is involved in the wager in question, the arbiter shall appoint a neutral party, a temporary assistant arbiter, to decide the outcome of the wager in which the arbiter is involved.
The arbiter may also force two parties to duel in cases where the two parties disagree, and the arbiter does not wish to decide the fate of the matter for them. The winner of the duel gets to decide the matter, whatever the matter may be.

§009:
After a new rule is passed, it must remain in effect for at least three days. If a rule is by any means set to be removed within this period, it will stay active until the end of the three days and only then be removed.

§010:
Each player may gain or lose points in the following manner. Players start with zero points. If a person gets their motion passed, they get 4 points. If it fails, they lose 2 points. If you break a rule, you lose 2 points, unless you broke a rule due to an error made in a State of the Nomic Post. Players may give their points, or any integer subset of their points, to another player. Negative points revert to zero. Players may not give more points than they currently have.
Points may be used to buy the following:
250 - Winner of the Nomic status (can't be bought except by a current Grand High Poobah of the Nomic)
40 - Remove a player's Double Down perk
35 - Grand HIgh Poobah of the Nomic status (available for only 1 player at a time meaning you can't buy it while someone else has it)
25 - Remove a player's Grand HIgh Poobah of the Nomic status
20 - Double Down perk - every motion of yours that passes/fails is worth double the normal amount (which is currently +4/-2). No single player may have two or more copies of the Double Down perk at once. They may buy it, somehow lose it, and repurchase it.
3x - Greed. Remove x amount of a player's points. Example: Alice pays 30 points to destroy/remove (NOT steal) 10 of Bob's points
x - Charity. Give x amount of points to a player. Example: Alice pays 30 points to add 30 points to Bob (note that this is already part of the rules)
2^n - Investments. The n-th investment a player buys costs 2^n points (so the first investment for each player costs 2, then doubles for each new one). At the start of each page in this thread, each player shall receive 2 points for each investment he/she owns.
Points are used with these types of commands:
Buy: Double Down perk for 20 points
Charity: Give 15 of my points to Alice
Greed: Pay 45 points to remove 15 of Alice's points

§011:
A State of the Nomic post has the following properties

- It begins with the phrase: The State of the Nomic:
- It contains the following information, wrapped in spoiler tags:
-- The rule set at the time of posting
-- A list of the current players with one or more points, along with their scores and investments. Players names shall be removed from the State of the Nomic after they haven't posted for 3 weeks in a row.
-- A list of the active motions and a summary of the votes for and against

Any player who makes a State of the Nomic post will be awarded 2 points if a) the information is accurate or later edited for accuracy and b) at least one motion has passed, failed, been withdrawn, or been amended since the last State of the Nomic post. It is forbidden to vote on a motion, making it pass or fail, then post a state of the nomic, then double posting to pass or fail another motion and state of the nomic in an attempt to maximize the number of points they can get from it.

§012:
It is not allowed to include the number of the rule you think a motion will get if it passes in the motion. The rulenumber will be given naturally at the time of approval of the motion; the new rule will get the lowest natural number not currently used by any other rule.

§013:
Motions shall not directly reward everyone who votes in favor of it, anyone who votes in favor of it, or only those who vote in favor of it.

§014:
Any player who promotes this game of Nomic with a link in their signature gets 5 points as long as the link remains in their sig.

§015:
When a winner is declared, he or she shall make a post in the Games section of the xkcd fora titled Nomic 16.1 declaring the start of a new Nomic with an inital set of rules. These rules should be simple and suitable for the beginning of a Nomic, but shall otherwise be chosen at the winner's sole discresion. A winner shall be declared either by a motion to that effect, or according to a rule stating a victory condition.

§016:
Players can make bets and wagers within the game, wagering points earned in the game. A player does this by writing "I wager <positive integer value> point(s) that <some event> will happen by <certain time>. This wager's name will be <player's nickname> Wager #<current wager number>" in bold. Another play may accept the bet by writing "I accept <nickname>'s Wager #<wager number>" in bold. Each wager may be accepted by a maximum of one person. If either player's points fall below the amount of the wager, the wager is cancelled, and the player who had insufficient points is penalized 6 points. Any outstanding wagers (in progress or not yet accepted) should be recorded after the player list in the subsequent State of the Nomic. A player may withdrawal a wager at any time if it has not yet been accepted. A player may not have more than 1 wager active at any given time. Disagreements over the rightful winner of a wager will be settled by the arbiter.

§017:
Any agreement to transfer points amongst players must be made by posting in this thread and only by posting in this thread.

§018:
When you cast your vote for or against a motion, you must also include a summary of the status of the motion in the form "(Now X for, Y against)".
An example: "I cast my vote in favour of Snark's motion for extreme bribery. (Now 2 for, 2 against)"

§019:
The person holding the title of Grand High Poobah of the Nomic has:
1) The ability to veto the last motion that has been passed. This ability takes preference to rules concerning the minimum amount of time a motion must remain active. This ability may be used only once per day (a day being defined as being from midnight to midnight, GMT).
2) The privilege to doublepost in this thread.
3) Permission to have two active motions at once.
4) Permission to have two active wagers at once.
5) The right to brag about this title.
*Note that in order for someone to hold this title, there must first be a rule stating that it is given to someone.

§020:
Editing posts is disallowed in this forum except 1) When a correction needs to be made to a State of the Nomic or 2) One is adding to their post without changing anything already written (one would not be allowed to add the running count after one of their votes) AND a new State of the Nomic has not been written since the time of that post, or 3) The post in question is the last post.

§021:
Once a motion is made and before it is accepted, it may be amended. Amendments of purely grammatical nature do not affect votes; amendments that alter the content of a motion render all votes for the motion void. To amend a motion, one has to write "I amend my [motion name] in the following way: [Description of changes] The complete revised motion is now as follows: [Complete amended motion]"
An example:

I amend my motion to encourage voting in the following way: Instead of "voted on" it shall now say "voted on or abstained from". The complete revised motion is now as follows:

Motion to include the following rule in the rules: In order to make a motion, a player has to have voted on or abstained from all active motions at that time.

§022:
Once per day (a day being defined at midnight to midnight, GMT) a player may attempt to guess the name of the next poster. They cannot guess that they themselves will be the next poster. if they are correct, they are awarded one point.

§023:
Rules on dueling:

1. Anyone may challenge another person to a duel by saying "I challenge [name] to a duel by [method]" where "name" is the username or nick name of the person challenged, and "method" is one of the prescribed methods of duelling (see below).
2. If you have challenged X to a duel, and they have not responded, you can retract your challenge by saying "I retract my challenge to X".
3. If you have been challenged to a duel by X you can respond to the challenge. Either you can refuse the duel by saying "I refuse X's challenge", or you can accept by saying "I accept X's challenge and request Y to be judge", where "Y" is the username or nick name of a proposed judge.
4. After a duel has been accepted matters proceed informally until a judge chosen by the person challenged has agreed to act as judge.
5. Once a duel has been accepted, and a judge selected, the duel may proceed according to the method in the original challenge.
6. When the duel has been resolved the winner of the duel gains 3 points, and the loser loses 2 point. The judge must declare this by saying "X has won a duel against Y. X gains 3 points, Y loses 2 point"
7. If any player takes more than 48 hours between turns, they forfeit the duel.
8. If a judge is taking too long, the players may request a new judge.
9. If a player with honor takes more than 48 hours to accept a duel challenge, the player is assumed to have refused to duel.

Dueling method: Sabres at dawn.

1. There are multiple rounds in this method.
2. In each round the participants choose either "Strike", "Parry", or "Feint" and send their decision via PM to the judge
3. The winner of the round is the participant whose action beats their opponents. Strike beats Feint, Feint beats Parry, Parry beats Strike. If both particpants choose the same action then the round is a draw.
4. After the judge has received each participant's action, the judge must post the result like this: "[challenger][strikes/parries/feints], [challengee][strikes/parries/feints]. [challenger/challengee] scores a hit! OR Neither scores a hit."
5. Once one participant has won two rounds, the duel is resolved, and they are the winner

Dueling method: Pistols at High Noon.

1. The duel starts when the judge says so in a post. This post is counted as post 0 for the duel.
2. For the next five posts (posts 1 through 5), nothing duel related happens. (this symbolizes taking five steps away from each other before shooting) The participants may still post during this period, and their posts count as steps, but it doesn't affect the outcome of the duel.
3. After these five posts, the first of the participants to make a post wins.
4. For the entire duration of the duel (from post 0 to the winning post) both participants are forbidden from double posting. This takes precedence over all other rules that might allow double posting. If a participant double posts during this time, he/she is immediately disqualified, and looses the duel.

§024:
Players may play chess in the following manner. Any player may join the game as part of Team Black or Team White at any time by posting in bold italics "I join team [Black / White]." Once a member of one team, a player may not switch teams. A player can make a move for their team by posting to the forum in bold italics using standard chess move notation. No player can post two consecutive moves for their team. A player is awarded 1 point for capturing a pawn, 3 for capturing a bishop or knight, 5 for a rook, and 8 for a queen. The player who makes the winning checkmate move is awarded 15 points and every other winning team member is awarded 10 points.

§025:
Player's may use the status of "honor" in the following manner. A player may say "I have honor." in order to get honor. The State of the Nomic Post shall have an account of which people have honor. People with honor shall receive 5 points at the start of each page in this thread, but all penalties they get are to be doubled. People with honor also shall be penalized 3 points for refusing any duel (note that this penalty will also be doubled). A player may lose his honor by writing "I no longer have honor.", in which event he/she will immediately be penalized 5 points (not doubled).

§026:
In order to make any action defined in the rules other than voting or abstaining from voting (including, but not limited to, making, amending, or withdrawing a motion, making a State of the Nomic post, making or accepting a wager, participating in a duel, making a chess move, spending points, declaring honor, guessing the next poster, or asking for clarification) a player must first vote on or abstain from voting on every active motion.

All motions:

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Motion #11 JesseScottOwen's motion to give due respect to the Chairman
Motion to add the following rule: If someone plays a King, or uses a word starting with "k", the next poster must preface their post with, "All hail Chairman Mao."
Votes: 0 for, 3 against (orangedragonfire, ahammel, matt96)
Motion refused

Motion #12 orangedragonfire's motion to mess with the first post
Motion to give the following powers to the person holding the title of Grand High Poobah of the Nomic:
1) The ability to veto the last motion that has been passed.
2) The privilege to doublepost in this thread.
3) Permission to have two active motions at once.
4) The right to brag about this title.
Note that in order for someone to hold this title, there must first be a rule stating that it is given to someone.
Votes: 4 for (matt96, JesseScottOwen, Snark, ahammel), 0 against
Motion passed

Motion #13 Alex's motion to create the position of arbiter
Motion to ammend the rule set to include the following rule:
§008 One player will have the position of arbiter. Any other player may request clarification on any of the rules by posting "I request clarification on rule [rule number]...", followed by a brief description of the ambiguity. The arbiter will have the ability to amend the rule set to remove the ambiguity. The decisions of the arbiter may be overturned only by passing a motion to amend the rule set.
In the event that this motion passes an arbiter will be selected by the following procedure: any player may nominate any other player (including himself or herself) for the position by posting "I nominate [nickname] for the position of arbiter." Any player aside from the nominator may second the nomination by posting "I second the nomination of [nickname] for the position of arbiter. Once a player has been nominated and seconded by two different players, he or she must accept the positon by posting "I accept the position or arbiter". The first player to do so becomes the arbiter.
Votes: 3 for (matt96, Snark, orangedragonfire), 0 against
Motion passed (§008 is amended according to this motion)

Motion #14 Snark's motion to have a political campaign
Motion to elect Snark Grand High Poobah of the Nomic.
Votes: 0 for, 3 against (orangedragonfire, matt96, ahammel)
Motion failed

Motion # 15 Fiery's motion to reward the creator of the game
Motion to give 5 points to Alex. After all, he made the game, so he deserves it.
Votes: 3 for (JesseScottOwen, matt96, ahammel), 1 against (Snark)
Motion passed. Alex awarded 5 points.

Motion # 16 Godwin's motion to justify the existence of nicknames
You must refer to players by their nickname. Failure to do so is penalized the same way breaking any rule is.
Votes 0 for, 3 against (Fiery, Snark, matt96)
Motion failed.

Motion #17 Matt96's motion to formalize a rule we have been observing that isn't actually in the rules.
You may not vote for/against your own motion.
Motion retracted.

Motion #18 Alex's motion to reward helpful Nomicers.
To give points to people who create a State of the Nomic post.
Votes 3 for (orangedragonfire, matt96,shirosuzume), 0 against.
Motion passed; rule §011 created.

Motion #19 Fiery's motion to avoid rule numbering confusion.
To prevent numbering of rules before the rules have been installed.
Votes 3 for (ahammel, matt96, orangedragonfive), 0 against.
Motion passed; rule §012 created.

Motion #20 Snark's second attempt at bribery
To give points to people who vote for it.
Votes 1 for (Snark), 3 against (orangedragonfire, matt96, Alex)
Motion failed. Snark lost 1 point, to -1, reverted to 0.

Motion #21 Fiery's motion to fix things.
To prevent people from voting for their own motions, and to prevent Snark from winning points for his motion.
Votes 1 for (Fiery), 2 against (Suz, Alex)
Motion retracted.

Motion #22 Matt96's (untitled motion)
To prevent the rewarding of people for voting for motions.
Votes 3 for (Alex, Fiery, Suz), 0 against
Motion passed. Rule §013 created.

Motion #23 Suz's simplified obvious rule
To prevent you from voting on your own motion or making more than one vote on a motion.
Votes 3 for (Alex, Fiery, Snark), 0 against
Motion passed; §003 amended accordingly.

Motion #24 Snark's motion that involves bribery in almost no way whatsoever and concerns only Poobah-related material.
To delineate who becomes Grand High Poobah of the Nomic.
Votes 2 for (Alex, Suz), 1 against (Fiery)
Motion retracted

Motion #25 Alex's motion to establish the duties of the winner.
To denote what the winner does, whenever the winner happens to be chosen.
Votes 3 for (Suz, Fiery, clockworkmonk), 0 against
Motion passed, added to rules as S015

Motion #26 JesseScottOwen's attempt to draw more players to the game.
To award 5 points to any player keeping a link to Nomic 16.0 in their sig
Votes 3 for (Alex, Suz, Fiery), 0 against.
Motion passed, added to rules as §014

Motion #27 Fiery's motion to create a new title
Motion to create the title of Defender of the Nomic. This title shall have bragging rights, and be awarded to anyone else who saves the Nomic (there may be more than one Defender of the Nomic.). Should a Defender of the Nomic make an action that harms the Nomic, the title will be removed, although it can be re-earned.
Votes 0 for, 2 against (Suz, Alex)
Motion retracted

Motion #28 Suz's attempt to create a somewhat convoluted definition of The Winner
Motion to create the definition of Winner of this Nomic:

The Winner shall have previously attained the rank of Grand High Poobah of the Nomic (GHPotN)
At some point while holding this status, another player will garner enough points to be considered GHPotN; at this time, the player can officially challenge the GHPotN by stating, "I challenge your status as GHPotN and request a vote to determine the true holder of the rank."
A vote shall take place among the GHPotN, the challenger, and any Poobahs Emeriti (see below); when 24 hours have passed or 2/3 of players have voted, whichever comes later, the tally shall be counted.
If the current holder of the GHPotN title has won the tally, that player becomes The Winner.
If the challenger wins the tally, that player becomes GHPotN until such time as that player is challenged as set forth here; in that case, the previous GHPotN becomes Poobah Emeritus.
Any and all Poobahs Emeritus are included in each Challenger's Vote and can re-attain status of GHPotN if they win the tally.
Poobahs Emeriti can re-challenge the current GHPotN when they have gained 5 points from the time of being made Poobah Emeritus.
Only if the current holder of the GHPotN title can become the Winner, if and only if they win the tally.

Votes: 3 for (Alex, Fiery, Yellow), 1 against (Snarky)
Motion passed, added to rules as §016

Motion #29 Fiery's motion to make it clear when a motion is decided
Motion to add the following to rule §003:

The player who makes the deciding vote on a motion must after his/her vote write "Motion [passed/denied or appropriate synonym]. [Player name/nickname] [awarded/penalized or appropriate synonym] [# of points] points." where the number of points is as specified in the rules. For example, one could write "I cast my vote in favor of Alex's motion to grant himself a meaningless title." Motion passed. Alex awarded 2 points.

Votes: 3 for (ahammel, clockworkmonk, spikey), 0 against
Motion passed, added to rules as an amendment to §003.

Motion #30 Monty's motion to recognize the tallest hat.
Motion to add the title "The Tallest Hat". To acquire the title, a post must be made stating the following: "I Believe I have the tallest hat, Look!" and a picture of the player wearing a tall hat is posted. If it is recognized as the tallest hat by three people who subsequently post "[nickname] indeed has the tallest hat." that player is recognized as "The Tallest Hat". Only one player at a time can be the Tallest Hat.
Votes: 2 for (Yellow), 2 against (Godwin, Snarky)
Motion retracted.

Motion #31 Snarky's motion to establish a points system
Motion to establish the following points system. Points may be used to buy the following:

250 - Winner of the Nomic status (can't be bought except by a current Grand High Poobah of the Nomic)
35 - Grand HIgh Poobah of the Nomic status (available for only 1 player at a time meaning you can't buy it while someone else has it)
25 - Remove a player's Grand HIgh Poobah of the Nomic status
20 - Double Down perk - every motion of yours that passes/fails is worth double the normal amount (which is currently +4/-2). No single player may have two or more copies of the Double Down perk at once. They may buy it, somehow lose it, and repurchase it.
20 - Remove a player's Double Down perk
3x - Greed. Remove x amount of a player's points. Example: Alice pays 30 points to destroy/remove (NOT steal) 10 of Bob's points
x - Charity. Give x amount of points to a player. Example: Alice pays 30 points to add 30 points to Bob (note that this is already part of the rules)
Points are used with these types of commands:
Buy: Double Down perk for 20 points
Charity: Give 15 of my points to Alice
Greed: Pay 45 points to remove 15 of Alice's points

Votes: 3 for (Fiery, Spikey, Monty), 1 against (Yellow)
Motion passed. Added to §010.

Motion #32 Yellow's motion to avoid paradoxical motions
Motion to add the following rule: "If a motion which would cause a paradox is proposed, it will be ignored and the player proposing it will be fined for 5 points. If a rule is accepted and it causes a paradox (alone or with other rules already present), the rule (resp. the rules) will be ignored and all other mentions suspended while the players vote on what rules to keep. This pause in the game will remain active until either 2/3 of the players have voted or 3 days have passed."
Votes: 0 for, 3 against (Godwin, Alex, Snark)
Motion failed

Motion #33 JesseScottOwen's motion to introduce gambling
Motion to make the following rule. Players can make bets and wagers within the game, wagering points earned in the game.
Votes 3 for (Yellow, Alex, Snarky), 0 against
Motion passed, added as rule §017

Motion #34 Alex's motion to prevent secret diplomacy.
Motion to create a rule stating that any agreement to transfer points amongst players must be made by posting in this thread and only by posting in this thread. Votes 2 for (Snarky, Godwin, Fiery), 0 against
Motion passed added as rule §018

Motion #35 Spikey's motion to reduce voting confusion.
Motion to create a rule stating that when you cast your vote for or against a motion, you must also include a summary of the status of the motion in the form "(Now X for, Y against)".
An example: "I cast my vote in favour of Snark's motion for extreme bribery. (Now 2 for, 2 against)"
Votes: 3 for (Fiery, Snarky, Monty), 1 against (Godwin)
Motion passed, §019 created.

Motion #36 Fierys motion to encourage voting
Motion to include the following rule in the rules: In order to make a motion, a player has to have voted on all active motions at that time.
Votes: 2 for (Snarky, Monty), 2 against (Godwin, Spikey)
Motion retracted.

Motion #37 Monty's motion to allow abstention
Motion to modify rule three to read as follows:
§003:
To vote in favor of or against a motion, one must declare one's vote by saying "I cast my vote [in favor of/against] [motion-maker]'s motion to [motion summary]." For example, one could say "I cast my vote in favor of ahammel's motion to grant himself a meaningless title.". No player shall vote for his own motion, and no player may vote for or against a motion more than once (though they may change their vote).
A player may also abstain from a vote by saying "I abstain from voting on [motion-maker]'s motion to [motion summary]."
The player who makes the deciding vote on a motion must after his/her vote write "Motion [passed/denied or appropriate synonym]. [Player name/nickname] [awarded/penalized or appropriate synonym] [# of points] points." where the number of points is as specified in the rules. For example, one could write "I cast my vote in favor of Alex's motion to grant himself a meaningless title. Motion passed. Alex awarded 2 points."
Votes: 3 for (Snarky, Godwin, Fiery), 0 against
Motion passed. §003 amended accordingly.

Motion #38 Snark's motion to establish rules for gambling
Motion to expand upon §017. Snarky would like it to say:

Players can make bets and wagers within the game, wagering points earned in the game. A player does this by writing "I wager <positive integer value> point(s) that <some event> will happen. This wager's name will be <player's nickname> Wager #<current wager number>" in bold. Another play may accept the bet by writing "I accept <nickname>'s Wager #<wager number>". Each wager may only be accepted by one person. If either player's points fall below the amount of the wager, the wager is cancelled, and the player who had insufficient points is penalized 3 points. Any outstanding wagers (in progress or not yet accepted) should be recorded after the player list in the subsequent State of the Nomic.

Votes: 0 for, 1 against (Monty)
Motion retracted

Motion #39 Monty's motion to allow more trivial point gain.
Motion to double all current point awards, excepting the points awarded for having the link in your signature. For example having a motion passed will result in 4 points as opposed to 2.
Votes: 4 for (Spikey, Carey, Osrich, QQQVAR), 0 against
Motion passed, rules amended accordingly

Motion #40 Snark's motion to establish improved rules for gambling
Motion to expand upon §017. Snarky would like it to say:

Players can make bets and wagers within the game, wagering points earned in the game. A player does this by writing "I wager <positive integer value> point(s) that <some event> will happen by <certain time>. This wager's name will be <player's nickname> Wager #<current wager number>" in bold. Another play may accept the bet by writing "I accept <nickname>'s Wager #<wager number>" in bold. Each wager may be accepted by a maximum of one person. If either player's points fall below the amount of the wager, the wager is cancelled, and the player who had insufficient points is penalized 3 points. Any outstanding wagers (in progress or not yet accepted) should be recorded after the player list in the subsequent State of the Nomic. A player may withdrawal a wager at any time if it has not yet been accepted. A player may not have more than 1 wager active at any given time.

Votes: 4 for (Spikey, Carey, Osrich, QQQVAR), 0 against
Motion passed, §017 amended accordingly.

Motion #41 Story Weaver's motion to reward dedication to the realm.
Motion to reward Fiery for his tireless work in the service of the great nation of Nomic, writing so many of State of the Nomic posts which take quite a bit of work to put together correctly. If this motion passes each player at the time the motion is passed who has a positive number of points will give Fiery 1 point. To simplify administration, these points will be transferred immediately upon the motion being passed (so that everyone doesn't have to explicitly say "I give...") to appear in the next State of the Nomic
Votes: 0 for, 2 against (Carey, Snarky), 1 abstain (Osrich)
Motion retracted

Motion #42 Carey's motion to give everyone a chance to vote.
Motion to amend rule 4 to allow for the following: Voting for a motion shall remain open for at least 48 hours. After 48 hours a motion passes if there are at least three votes in favor and there are more votes in favor than against. A motion fails if there are at least three votes against and there are more votes against than in favor. If there is a tie with at least three votes in favor and three votes against then the motion will be decided by the next vote. Otherwise, voting will remain open until there are three votes in favor or three votes against.
Votes: 0 for, 3 against (Snarky, Spikey, Odin)
Motion failed

Motion #43 Snarky's motion to create accountability and reduce confusion.
Motion to disallow editing posts in this forum except when a correction needs to be made to a State of the Nomic.
Votes: 3 for (Carey, Fiery, Spikey), 0 against
Motion passed. Added as rule §021

Motion #44 Carey's motion to require four votes.
Motion to amend rule §004 to require four votes to accept or refuse a motion.
Votes: 1 for (Monty), 2 against (Spikey, Snarky, Alex)
Motion denied.

Motion #45 Fiery's motion to allow motion amending
Motion to add the following rule:

Once a motion is made and before it is accepted, it may be amended. Amendments of purely grammatical nature do not affect votes; amendments that alter the content of a motion render all votes for the motion void. To amend a motion, one has to write "I amend my [motion name] in the following way: [Description of changes] The complete revised motion is now as follows: [Complete amended motion]"
An example:

I amend my motion to encourage voting in the following way: Instead of "voted on" it shall now say "voted on or abstained from". The complete revised motion is now as follows:

Motion to include the following rule in the rules: In order to make a motion, a player has to have voted on or abstained from all active motions at that time.

Votes: 3 for (Spikey, Snarky, Carey), 1 against (Monty)
Motion passed. Added as rule §022

Motion #46 Monty's motion for added silliness
Motion to begin a mini-game thingy.
Once per day (a day being defined at midnight to midnight, GMT) a player may attempt to guess the name of the next poster. if they are correct, they are awarded one point.
Votes: 2 for (Fiery, Spikey), 2 against (Snarky, Carey)
Motion retracted

Motion #47 Snarky's motion to remove an overcomplicated rule
Motion to remove §016 (quoted below) because it's so incredibly confusing and intricate, and we have another simpler method for determing the winner already in place.

The Winner shall have previously attained the rank of Grand High Poobah of the Nomic (GHPotN)
At some point while holding this status, another player will garner enough points to be considered GHPotN; at this time, the player can officially challenge the GHPotN by stating, "I challenge your status as GHPotN and request a vote to determine the true holder of the rank."
A vote shall take place among the GHPotN, the challenger, and any Poobahs Emeriti (see below); when 24 hours have passed or 2/3 of players have voted, whichever comes later, the tally shall be counted.
If the current holder of the GHPotN title has won the tally, that player becomes The Winner.
If the challenger wins the tally, that player becomes GHPotN until such time as that player is challenged as set forth here; in that case, the previous GHPotN becomes Poobah Emeritus.
Any and all Poobahs Emeritus are included in each Challenger's Vote and can re-attain status of GHPotN if they win the tally.
Poobahs Emeriti can re-challenge the current GHPotN when they have gained 5 points from the time of being made Poobah Emeritus.
Only if the current holder of the GHPotN title can become the Winner, if and only if they win the tally. However, a player may also gain the status of the Winner by any other method to do so described in the rules.

Votes: 3 for (Spikey, Carey, Monty), 1 against (Fiery)
Motion passed. §016 removed.

Motion #48 Monty's motion for added silliness, now with flavor
I make a motion to begin a mini-game thingy.
Once per day (a day being defined at midnight to midnight, GMT) a player may attempt to guess the name of the next poster. They cannot guess that they themselves will be the next poster. if they are correct, they are awarded one point.
For the purposes of voting, this motion will be referred to as Monty's motion for added silliness, now with flavor.
Votes: 3 for (Fiery, Spikey, Carey), 0 against.
Motion passed. Added to rules as §022.

Motion #49 Fiery's motion to keep track of the score
Motion to add the following rule:

Whenever any player gains or looses points an updated table of current scores must be included in the post where it first became apparent that points where lost or gained.

Votes: 1 for (Carey), 3 against (Snarky, Alex, Spikey)
Motion denied

Motion #50 Snark's motion to prevent disputes regarding wagers.
Motion to add deciding wagers to the duties of the arbiter. I'd like to add the following sentence to the rule detailing the duties of the arbiter:

The arbiter may also be called upon to resolve disagreements regarding the outcome of wagers. If the arbiter himself is involved in the wager in question, the arbiter shall appoint a neutral party, a temporary assistant arbiter, to decide the outcome of the wager in which the arbiter is involved.

And add the following sentence to the rule detailing how wagers are made:

Disagreements over the rightful winner of a wager will be settled by the arbiter.

Votes: 2 for (Spikey, Carey, Fiery), 0 against
Motion passed. Rules §008 and §016 edited accordingly

Motion #51 Spikey's motion to give everyone cookies.
Motion that every player in this game of Nomic receive one internet cookie. If and when this motion is passed, Story Weaver will post pictures of delicious cookies equal in number to the number of players listed in the most recent State of the Nomic post.
Votes: 2 for (Carey, Alex, Odin), 1 against (Fiery)
Motion passed.

Motion #52 Snarky's motion to prevent the Poobah from being a juggernaut and vetoing a cheeseload of motions.
Motion to alter the powers of the Grand High Poobah of the Nomic. See the proposed new wording below. The underlined words indicate new additions.

The person holding the title of Grand High Poobah of the Nomic has:
1) The ability to veto the last motion that has been passed. This ability takes preference to rules concerning the minimum amount of time a motion must remain active. This ability may be used only once per day (a day being defined as being from midnight to midnight, GMT).
2) The privilege to doublepost in this thread.
3) Permission to have two active motions at once.
4) Permission to have two active wagers at once.
5) The right to brag about this title.
*Note that in order for someone to hold this title, there must first be a rule stating that it is given to someone.

Votes: 4 for (Alex, Spikey, Fiery, Carey), 0 against.
Motion passed, §019 amended accordingly

Motion #53 Fierys motion to add investments
Motion to make the following amendments to rule $010:
- raise the cost of removing the double down perk to 40 points
- add a new item that can be bought: Investments. The first investment a player buys costs 2 points, each subsequent investment cost twice of the one bought before that (so the n-th investment for each player will cost 2^(n-1) points). At the start of each page in this thread, each player shall receive 2 points for each investment he/she owns.
For the purposes of voting, this motion will be referred to as Fierys motion to add investments.
Votes: 3 for (Snarky, Carey), 0 against.
Motion passed. Rule §010 amended accordingly.

Motion #54 Carey's motion to play chess
Motion to establish a game of team chess. Any player may join the game as part of team black or team white at any time. A player can make a move by posting to the forum using standard chess move notation. No player can post two consecutive moves for their team. A player is awarded 1 point for capturing a pawn, 3 for capturing a bishop or knight, 5 for a rook, and 8 for a queen. The player who makes the winning checkmate move is awarded 15 points and every other winning team member is awarded 10 points.
Votes: 1 for, 0 against
Motion retracted.

Motion #55 Fiery's motion to not penalize people for others mistakes
Motion to amend rule §010 in the following way:
Instead of "If you break a rule, you lose 2 points." I want it to say: "If you break a rule, you lose 2 points, unless you broke a rule due to an error made in a State of the Nomic Post."
Votes: 3 for (Carey, Spikey, Snarky), 0 against
Motion passed. Rule §010 amended.

Motion #56 Carey's new motion to play chess
Motion to establish a game of team chess. Any player may join the game as part of Team Black or Team White at any time by posting in bold italics "I join team [Black / White]." Once a member of one team, a player may not switch teams. A player can make a move for their team by posting to the forum in bold italics using standard chess move notation. No player can post two consecutive moves for their team. A player is awarded 1 point for capturing a pawn, 3 for capturing a bishop or knight, 5 for a rook, and 8 for a queen. The player who makes the winning checkmate move is awarded 15 points and every other winning team member is awarded 10 points.
Votes: 3 for (Fiery, Odin, Snarky), 0 against
Motion passed and added to rules as §024

Motion #57 Spikey's motion to seek honour for his cookies (and introduce duelling)
motion to add the following new rule:

Rules on duelling:

1. Anyone may challenge another person to a duel by saying "I challenge [name] to a duel by [method]" where "name" is the username or nick name of the person challenged, and "method" is one of the prescribed methods of duelling (see below).
2. If you have challenged X to a duel, and they have not responded, you can retract your challenge by saying "I retract my challenge to X".
3. If you have been challenged to a duel by X you can respond to the challenge. Either you can refuse the duel by saying "I refuse X's challenge", or you can accept by saying "I accept X's challenge and request Y to be judge", where "Y" is the username or nick name of a proposed judge.
4. After a duel has been accepted matters proceed informally until a judge chosen by the person challenged has agreed to act as judge.
5. Once a duel has been accepted, and a judge selected, the duel may proceed according to the method in the original challenge.
6. When the duel has been resolved the winner of the duel gains 3 points, and the loser loses 2 point. The judge must declare this by saying "X has won a duel against Y. X gains 2 points, Y loses 1 point"
7. Players who attempt to start a duel when they are already in one, or who attempt to challenge someone who is already dueling will lose 2 points

Duelling method: Sabres at dawn.

1. There are multiple rounds in this method.
2. In each round the participants choose either "Strike", "Parry", or "Feint" and send their decision via PM to the judge
3. The winner of the round is the participant whose action beats their opponents. Strike beats Feint, Feint beats Parry, Parry beats Strike. If both particpants choose the same action then the round is a draw.
4. After the judge has received each participant's action, the judge must post the result like this: "[challenger][strikes/parries/feints], [challengee][strikes/parries/feints]. [challenger/challengee] scores a hit! OR Neither scores a hit."
5. Once one participant has won two rounds, the duel is resolved, and they are the winner

Votes: 3 for (Fiery, Odin, Carey), 0 against
Motion passed, rule §023 added

Motion #58 Snarky's motion to keep it fresh
Motion to remove player's names from the State of the Nomic after they haven't posted for 3 weeks in a row.
Votes: 3 for (Carey, Spikey, Fiery), 0 against
Motion passed, rule §011 edited accordingly

Motion #59 Fierys motion to create honor
Motion to create honor. A player may say "I have honor." in order to get honor. The State of the Nomic Post shall have an account of which people have honor. People with honor shall receive 5 points at the start of each page in this thread, but all penalties they get are to be doubled. People with honor also shall be penalized 3 points for refusing any duel (note that this penalty will also be doubled). A player may loose his honor by writing "I no longer have honor.", in which event he/she will immediately be penalized 5 points (not doubled).
Votes: 3 for (Carey, Spikey, Snarky), 0 against
Motion passed and added to the rules as §025

Motion #60 Spikey's motion to encourage financial scrutiny
Motion to amend rule §011 so that investments have to be listed in State of the Nomic posts. Specifically, I want it to read:

A State of the Nomic post has the following properties
- It begins with the phrase: The State of the Nomic:
- It contains the following information, wrapped in spoiler tags:
-- The rule set at the time of posting
-- A list of the current players with one or more points, along with their scores and investments
-- A list of the active motions and a summary of the votes for and against

Any player who makes a State of the Nomic post will be awarded 2 points if a) the information is accurate or later edited for accuracy and b) at least one motion has passed, failed, been withdrawn, or been amended since the last State of the Nomic post.

Votes: 3 for (Carey, Fiery, Snarky), 0 against
Motion passed, §011 amended accordingly

Motion #61 Matt96's motion to prevent manipulation of points awarded
Motion to prevent people from voting on a motion, making it pass or fail, then post a state of the nomic, then double posting to pass or fail another motion and state of the nomic in an attempt to maximize the number of points they can get from it.
Votes: 3 for (Fiery, Carey, Spikey), 0 against
Motion passed, added to rule §011

Motion #62 Fierys motion to introduce Pistols at High Noon
Motion to introduce a new dueling method, which shall be added to rule §023 if this motion is accepted.
Duelling method: Pistols at High Noon.

1. The duel starts when the judge says so in a post. This post is counted as post 0 for the duel.
2. For the next five posts (posts 1 through 5), nothing duel related happens. (this symbolizes taking five steps away from each other before shooting) The participants may still post during this period, but it doesn't affect the outcome of the duel.
3. After these five posts, the first of the participants to make a post wins.
4. For the entire duration of the duel (from post 0 to the winning post) both participants are forbidden from double posting. This takes precedence over all other rules that might allow double posting. If a participant double posts during this time, he/she is immediately disqualified, and looses the duel.

Votes: 3 for(matt96, Odin, Carey), 0 against
Motion passed, rule §023 amended.

Motion #63 Snarky's motion to really integrate dueling.
Motion to allow the arbiter to force two parties to duel in cases where the two parties disagree, and the arbiter does not wish to decide the fate of the matter for them. The winner of the duel gets to decide the matter, whatever the matter may be.
Votes: 3 for (Carey, Odin, Fiery), 0 against
Motion passed, rule §008 edited accordingly

Motion #64 Carey's motion to encourage voting
Motion to add the following rule:
In order to make any action defined in the rules other than voting or abstaining from voting (including, but not limited to, making, amending, or withdrawing a motion, making a State of the Nomic post, making or accepting a wager, participating in a duel, making a chess move, spending points, declaring honor, guessing the next poster, or asking for clarification) a player must first vote on or abstain from voting on every active motion. For purposes of voting this motion will be referred to as Carey's motion to encourage voting.
Votes: 3 for (Fiery, Snarky, Spikey), 1 against (Odin)
Motion passed and added to rules as §026

Motion #65 Fiery's motion to add another title to the game
Motion to introduce the title of Gamemaster.
A person who is a Gamemaster may decide any disputes regarding games (currently Chess, Wagers and Duels. This list is to be updated if new games are added to the game.) Furthermore, only a Gamemaster may judge a duel. More than one person may have the title of Gamemaster. A Gamemaster is chosen in the following manner:
Any player may nominate any other player (including himself or herself) for the title by posting "I nominate [nickname] for the title of Gamemaster." Any player aside from the nominator may second the nomination by posting "I second the nomination of [nickname] for the title of Gamemaster". Once a player has been nominated and seconded by two different players, he or she must accept the title by posting "I accept the title or Gamemaster".
Votes: 1 for (Snarky), 1 against (Spikey), 1 abstain (Carey)

Motion #66 Odin's motion to introduce Drinks at Dusk
Motion to introduce a new dueling method, which shall be added to rule §023 if this motion is accepted.
Duelling method: Drinks at Dusk.
1. The duel starts when the judge says that he/she sets out two drinks. The challenger poisons one of them, and messages the judge.
2. The other participant choses drink 1 or drink 2.
3. The judge reveals which drink was poisoned. If the participant drank the poisoned drink, he/she loses, otherwise he/she wins the duel.
4. No player is immune to poison.
Votes: 2 for (Carey, Fiery), 2 against (Spikey, Snarky)

Motion #67 Snarky's motion to prevent duel spamming
Motion to prevent anyone from fighting in more than 1 duel at a time. Players who attempt to start a duel when they are already in one, or who attempt to challenge someone who is already dueling will lose 2 points
Votes: 3 for (Spikey, Fiery, Carey), 0 against
Motion passed, rule amended

Motion #68 Spikey's motion to give everyone a chance to duel
Motion to add the following new rule:

Rules for duelling tournaments.

1. A tournament may only be proposed by way of a motion. This motion must at a minimum set out who the Tournament Organizer is and what duelling method will be used in the tournament.
2. Once a tournament motion has been passed, 8 competitors must register their interest. The three who voted for the motion are already assumed to have done this. The others must do so by saying "[name] wants to compete in the tournament". If there are not 8 interested competitors after 72 hours of the motion being passed, the Organizer must make a sad face, and explain the state of affairs in haiku form.
3. Once 8 competitors have registered their interest, the tournament begins. The Organizer receives 1 point.
4. The Organizer must publish a list of randomized pairings for the first round, and a randomly assigned judge for each (judges will be drawn from the competitors only). Each of these pairs must duel by the chosen method, and the judge must judge. Duels are assumed to automatically have been challenged and accepted.
5. Play proceeds by knockout, and after all the duels in a round have been fought, the Organizer posts a new randomized list of pairings for the next round made up of the winners of the previous round.
6. The normal rules for point gain and loss for duels do not apply. Instead, a victory in Round 1 wins 2 points, in Round 2, 3 points, and in Round 3 (the final round) 5 points. No points are lost for losing a duel.
7. The motion that proposed the tournament may define additional prizes.
8. There cannot be two tournaments simultaneously.

and to propose a tournament, entitled "Challenge of the Desert Blade", with myself as the Organizer, and with Sabres at Dawn as the chosen method. The winner of this tournament acquires the title of Blademaster.
Votes: 1 for (Carey), 1 against (Snarky)

Motion #69 Snarky's motion to establish time limits.
Motion to impose a maximum time period for any responses or turns during dueling. If any player takes more than 48 hours between turns, they forfeit the duel. If a judge is taking too long, the players may request a new judge. If a player with honor takes more than 48 hours to accept a duel challenge, the player is assumed to have refused to duel.
Votes: 3 for (Carey, Fiery, Spikey), 0 against
Motion passed, §023 amended accordingly

Motion #70 Fiery's motion to honor titles
Motion to introduce honorable titles, by adding the following to rule §025:

Titles may also be honorable. Honorable titles may only be taken by people who have honor. If a person looses his/her honor, he/she also looses all honorable titles. If a new title is introduced by a motion, it has to be specified whether the title is honorable or not.

and to make the titles of Arbiter and Grand High Poobah of the Nomic honorable.
Votes: 1 for (Spikey), 1 against (Snarky), 1 abstain (Carey)

Motion #71 Carey's motion to introduce Thread Necromancy
Motion to introduce a new dueling method, Midnight Thread Necromancy.
After the post by the judge that starts the duel, every post by one of the participants scores square minutes equal to the square of the number of minutes since the previous post to this thread. The duel is won by the first participant to reach 3600 square minutes.
Votes: 1 for (Fiery), 1 against (Snarky)

Motion #72 Snarky's motion to add an epic dueling method involving Wikipedia
Motion to introduce a new dueling method, which shall be added to the dueling rule if this motion is accepted.
Dueling method: Mousetrap at Sunset

1. The duel starts when the judge says so in a post and will last 24 hours from the time of that post.
2. In the opening post, the judge will provide links to two Wikipedia articles, which he will title A1 and A2.
3. Duelers will then post link paths from A1 to A2 with the goal of minimizing the number of links it takes to travel from A1 to A2, while staying within Wikipedia and clicking only on links within the article (not Random Article, Featured Content, or the like).
4. Duelers may post as many different link paths as they like.
5. Any edited posts of the duelers will be entirely disregarded for the purposes of the duel.
6. Players who are not dueling (including the judge) who try to help the duelers in any way will incur a penalty of 5 points.
7. Players are not allowed to edit Wikipedia articles in ways that would help themselves or hurt their opponent. Any violations of this rule will result in a 10 point deduction, loss of the duel, and permanent loss of honor (and failure to regain honor).
8. After 24 hours from the time of the judge's duel-starting post, no more submissions are accepted from the duelers.
9. After the 24 hour submission period is over, the judge verifies the solutions and declares a winner. The winner is the dueler who has posted the shortest link path. In case of a tie, the dueler who posted their solution first wins.

Votes: 1 for (Carey), 0 against

Active motions:

Spoiler:

Motion #65 Fiery's motion to add another title to the game
Motion to introduce the title of Gamemaster.
Votes: 1 for (Snarky), 1 against (Spikey), 1 abstain (Carey)

Motion #66 Odin's motion to introduce Drinks at Dusk
Motion to introduce a new dueling method.
Votes: 2 for (Carey, Fiery), 2 against (Spikey, Snarky)

Motion #68 Spikey's motion to give everyone a chance to duel
Motion to add a rule about tournaments and to propose a tournament.
Votes: 1 for (Carey), 1 against (Snarky)

Motion #70 Fiery's motion to honor titles
Motion to introduce honorable titles.
Votes: 1 for (Spikey), 1 against (Snarky), 1 abstain (Carey)

Motion #71 Carey's motion to introduce Thread Necromancy
Motion to introduce a new dueling method, Midnight Thread Necromancy.
Votes: 1 for (Fiery), 1 against (Snarky)

Motion #72 Snarky's motion to add an epic dueling method involving Wikipedia
Motion to introduce a new dueling method, Mousetrap at Sunset
Votes: 1 for (Carey), 0 against

[careyhammer]

Snarky, please update the SotN to show that I have 3 investments.

[Odilo]

Buy: Investment for 4 points.

I cast my vote against Fiery's motion to add another title to the game. (Now 1 for, 2 against, 1 abstain)
I cast my vote in favour of Spikey's motion to give everyone a chance to duel. (Now 2 for, 1 against)
I cast my vote in favour of Fiery's motion to honor titles. (Now 2 for, 1 against, 1 abstain)
I cast my vote against Carey's motion to introduce Thread Necromancy. (Now 1 for, 2 against)
I cast my vote in favour of Snarky's motion to add an epic dueling method involving Wikipedia. (Now 2 for, 0 against)

I guess that Fiery will post next.

[Snark]

@Carey
Done. Sorry about that.

[Snark]

@ Odin/Carey
We have a duel going on. Which one of you needs to do something?

[frogman]

Hi! I'd like to play.

From what I have understood, I need a nickname, right? I'll be "froggy".

I cast my vote in favor of Snarky's motion to add an epic dueling method involving Wikipedia (now 3 for, 0 against) Motion passes, Snarky receives 8 points
I cast my vote in favor of Carey's motion to introduce Thread Necromancy. (now 2 for, 2 against)
I cast my vote in favor of Fiery's motion to honor titles. (Now 3 for, 1 against, 1 abstain) Motion passes, Fiery receives 8 points
I cast my vote in favor of Odin's motion to introduce Drinks at Dusk (now 3 for, 2 against) Motion passes, Odin receives 4 points.
I abstain from voting on Spikey's motion to give everyone a chance to duel(now 2 for, 1 against, 1 abstain)
I cast my vote against Fiery's motion to add another title to the game(now 1 for, 3 against, 1 abstain) Motion fails, Fiery loses 4 points.

I have honor.

Also, it was fairly difficult to find the posts describing motions, so:

I make a motion to introduce links into the list of active motions in the State of the Nomic post.
In a State of the Nomic posts, weblinks shall be included with each motion listed under "Active motions" that shall direct to the post that originally describes that motion.

For purposes of voting this motion will be referred to as "Froggy's motion to put links in the State of the Nomic post"

EDIT: ninja'd, updated vote counts

[Snark]

@FrogMan

You must say "I pick the nickname [nickname]" in order to have a nickname. This makes everything else you did invalid.

When you redo your votes, be sure to include an updated summary with the correct number of for's and against's.

Also: Welcome to the game!!!

[Snark]

@FrogMan
Also note that you're not allowed to edit posts top fix vote counts.

[frogman]

I pick the nickname "froggy"

I cast my vote in favor of Snarky's motion to add an epic dueling method involving Wikipedia (now 3 for, 0 against) Motion passes, Snarky receives 8 points
I cast my vote in favor of Carey's motion to introduce Thread Necromancy. (now 2 for, 2 against)
I cast my vote in favor of Fiery's motion to honor titles. (Now 3 for, 1 against, 1 abstain) Motion passes, Fiery receives 8 points
I cast my vote in favor of Odin's motion to introduce Drinks at Dusk (now 3 for, 2 against) Motion passes, Odin receives 4 points.
I abstain from voting on Spikey's motion to give everyone a chance to duel(now 2 for, 1 against, 1 abstain)
I cast my vote against Fiery's motion to add another title to the game(now 1 for, 3 against, 1 abstain) Motion fails, Fiery loses 4 points.

I have honor.

Also, it was fairly difficult to find the posts describing motions, so:

I make a motion to introduce links into the list of active motions in the State of the Nomic post.
In a State of the Nomic posts, weblinks shall be included with each motion listed under "Active motions" that shall direct to the post that originally describes that motion.

For purposes of voting this motion will be referred to as "Froggy's motion to put links in the State of the Nomic post"

Is that correct? Sorry for any errors that I may have made.

[careyhammer]

Welcome Froggy! SotN posts are hard enough to get right, so

I cast my vote against Froggy's motion to put links in the State of the Nomic post (Now 0 for, 1 against)

Snarky Feints, Odin Feints, neither scores a hit!

I amend my motion to introduce Thread Necromancy to read as follows:
Motion to add the following into the dueling rule:
Dueling Method: Midnight Thread Necromancy

1. The judge begins the duel by writing in bold italics Let the duel begin!
2. Every post made by a duel participant scores a number of minutes² equal to the square of the number of minutes since the last post. (Note that using the square of the time ensures that post spamming is not an effective strategy)
3. Any double post or pointless post by a participant results in disqualification, and the other participant is the winner.
4. A pointless post is defined to be any post that does not make an action defined in the rules or contribute meaningfully to the thread conversation. (Yes, this is intentionally vague.)
5. Post pointlessness is determined by the judge, whose decision is final.
6. The first participant to score 3600 minutes² is the winner

[Story Weaver]

Quick note: I think I should have received 4 points from my investments at the beginning of this page. That wasn't reflected in the State of the Nomic.

Also, I would say that we have about 8 players who are still posting (out of a total of 13 listed in the last State of the Nomic), if not all of them several times a day, so I think a tournament would work.

Will vote on motions when I have more time...

[t1mm01994]

I pick the nickname "Tim".
Gosh-darn, that's an awesome nickname. I should probably use that in real life, too..
I request clarification on rule 23, Rules of Dueling, rule 6. "Winner gets 3, loser loses 2, this has to be announced by saying he gains 2 loses 1. Wut.
No votes on motions yet, far, far too much to read up to to have any idea how to vote.

[careyhammer]

As arbiter, I declare that rule §023.6 shall be changed to the following:

When the duel has been resolved the winner of the duel gains 3 points, and the loser loses 2 points. The judge must declare this by saying "X has won a duel against Y. X gains 3 points, Y loses 2 points"

in order to be consistent. (the bold parts are the changes)
The next person to do a State of the Nomic post should include these changes in their post.

Snarky, please fix

Welcome back, Tim

[patzer]

Hi, I'd like to play. If there's something wrong in my post please tell me-this is a confusing game...
I pick the nickname "Patzer"
I'm a serious chess player so the first thing I'll do is join the chess game.
Wait...oops I've got to vote first.
I cast my vote in favour of Froggy's motion to put links in the State of the Nomic post (Now 1 for, 1 against)
I cast my vote against Carey's motion to introduce Thread Necromancy. (now 0 for, 1 against)
(I think the vote count gets reset after an amendment, please confirm)
I abstain from voting on Spikey's motion to give everyone a chance to duel(now 2 for, 1 against, 2 abstain)
I join team Black
I move 7...h7-h6
I don't know if I've got to give the current chess moves, so here they are-
Team White Team Black
Snarky 1. e4 e5 Carey
Fiery 2. d3 Nf6 matt96
Snarky 3. Nc3 Bb4 Odin
Fiery 4. a3 Bxc3+ Carey
Snarky 5. bxc3 c5 Odin
Fiery 6. Nf3 Nc6 Carey
Snarky 7. Bg5 h6 Patzer
I make a motion to reward the player who makes the first post on a new page with 1 point. For the purposes of voting, this will be referred to as INt€rN€t WaNd€r€R's motion to reward the first poster on a new page.

[Snark]

Added Spikey's investment points
Fixed the 3,2 and 2,1 points for dueling problem

Thanks guys. Welcome back, Tim!

[careyhammer]

The State of the Nomic:

Edit: now obsolete

[Snark]

Cheater. You shouldn't do in progress SotN's.

[careyhammer]

Not against the rules! SotN are edited all the time.

[Snark]

I cast my vote in favor of Spikey's motion to give everyone a chance to duel (Now 3 for, 0 against, 1 abstain) Motion passes. Spikey awarded 4 points.
I cast my vote against Carey's motion to introduce Thread Necromancy (Now 0 for, 1 against.)
I cast my vote against Froggy's motion to put links in the State of the Nomic post (Now 0 for, 2 against)

I make a motion to disallow players from posting "In Progress" State of the Nomics in an effort to guarantee their ability to post one whether or not they're the fastest to complete it. Players must believe, to the best of their knowledge, that a State of the Nomic is correct in its entirety before posting it. For the purposes of voting, this motion will be referred to as Snarky's motion to prevent SotN's from not representing the true SotN.

Note: This SotN may have some updates that are identical to Carey's SotN above, but I did NOT re-add or re-subtract points that Carey already took care of.

(-4 points to Odin for second investment)
(8 points to Snarky for his motion to add an epic dueling method involving Wikipedia passing)
(8 points to Fiery for his motion to honor titles passing)
(4 points to Odin for his motion to introduce Drinks at Dusk passing)
(-4 points to Fiery for his motion to add another title to the game failing)
(Reset Carey's motion vote count for amending)
(4 points to Spikey for his motion to give everyone a chance to duel passing)
(2 points to Snarky for State of the Nomic)
(deleted motions 11-30 due to character limit constraints)

The State of the Nomic:

Players:

Spoiler:

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Username         Nickname Points Notes
Snark            Snarky    61    Double Down, 3 Investments
orangedragonfire Fiery     24    Arbiter, Grand High Poobah of the Nomic, Double Down, 3 Investments, Honor
ahammel          Alex      18
Story Weaver     Spikey    16    2 Investments
Odilo            Odin      14    2 Investments, Honor
careyhammer      Carey     13    Double Down, 3 Investments, Honor
shirosuzume      Suz       10
clockworkmonk    Monty     10
JesseScottOwen   Godwin     9
matt96           QQQVAR     4
frogman          froggy     0
t1mm01994        Tim        0
Giallo           Yellow     0
BcNexus          Rezo       0
ostrichguy       Osrich     0

Chess Game:

Spoiler:

Board
Note to fellow Nomicans: Follow the link, make your move, click url, and copy and paste the first link to update this url.

Turn history:

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Team White      Team Black
Snarky 1. e4    e5    Carey
Fiery  2. d3    Nf6   matt96
Snarky 3. Nc3   Bb4   Odin
Fiery  4. a3    Bxc3+ Carey
Snarky 5. bxc3  c5    Odin
Fiery  6. Nf3   Nc6   Carey
Snarky 7. Bg5

Current Wagers:

Spoiler:

Accepted Wagers
Spikey's Wager #1 - I wager 2 points that the XKCD comic tomorrow (Monday 26th) will contain someone wearing a hat. Accepted by Snarky.
Winner: Snarky.

Carey's Wager #1 - I wager 1 point that Spikey will win a duel against Fiery before Sunday, April 1 2012 23:59:59 UTC. Accepted by Fiery

Unaccepted Wagers
None

Tournaments:

Spoiler:

"Challenge of the Desert Blade", Organizer - Spikey, Method - Sabres at Dawn. The winner of this tournament acquires the title of Blademaster. Signups: Carey, Odin, Snarky, ...

Current Rules

Spoiler:

§001:
Any player may set forth a motion to take some official action. Official actions include, but are not limited to, amendment of or additions of rules.

§002:
All official motions must be in bold and italics and begin with "I make a motion to..." Additionally, official motions must end with "For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as [username]'s motion to...", followed by a summary of the motion's actions, with "[username]" replaced by the motion-maker's username. For example, one could say "I make a motion to promote ahammel to the cerimonial position of Grand High Poobah of the Nomic. For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as ahammel's motion to grant himself a meaningless title."

§003:
To vote in favor of or against a motion, one must declare one's vote by saying "I cast my vote [in favor of/against] [motion-maker]'s motion to [motion summary]." For example, one could say "I cast my vote in favor of ahammel's motion to grant himself a meaningless title.". No player shall vote for his own motion, and no player may vote for or against a motion more than once (though they may change their vote).

A player may also abstain from a vote by saying "I abstain from voting on [motion-maker]'s motion to [motion summary]."

The player who makes the deciding vote on a motion must after his/her vote write "Motion [passed/denied or appropriate synonym]. [Player name/nickname] [awarded/penalized or appropriate synonym] [# of points] points." where the number of points is as specified in the rules. For example, one could write "I cast my vote in favor of Alex's motion to grant himself a meaningless title. Motion passed. Alex awarded 4 points."

§004:
If at any point there are three votes from three different players in favor of a motion, the motion passes and is acted upon. If at any point there are three votes from three different players against a motion, the motion fails. If the motion passes, the next person to make a State of the Nomic post has to include any changes to the rules in their post.

§005:
At any time each player can only have one active motion. Before a player can make a new motion, his/her last motion must have been either accepted, refused or retracted.

§006:
Any player may at any point retract their active motion.

§007:
All players must pick a nickname. They are not allowed to vote or make motions until such time as they have chosen one. Nicknames cannot be more than six letters long. A nickname is officially chosen by writing "I pick the nickname [nickname]". Other players may cast votes against nicknames if they deem them inappropriate. Should a nickname receive three votes against, the player has to pick a new nickname.

§008:
One player will have the position of arbiter. Any other player may request clarification on any of the rules by posting "I request clarification on rule [rule number]...", followed by a brief description of the ambiguity. The arbiter will have the ability to amend the rule set to remove the ambiguity. The decisions of the arbiter may be overturned only by passing a motion to amend the rule set.
In the event that this motion passes an arbiter will be selected by the following procedure: any player may nominate any other player (including himself or herself) for the position by posting "I nominate [nickname] for the position of arbiter." Any player aside from the nominator may second the nomination by posting "I second the nomination of [nickname] for the position of arbiter". Once a player has been nominated and seconded by two different players, he or she must accept the positon by posting "I accept the position or arbiter". The first player to do so becomes the arbiter.
The arbiter may also be called upon to resolve disagreements regarding the outcome of wagers. If the arbiter himself is involved in the wager in question, the arbiter shall appoint a neutral party, a temporary assistant arbiter, to decide the outcome of the wager in which the arbiter is involved.
The arbiter may also force two parties to duel in cases where the two parties disagree, and the arbiter does not wish to decide the fate of the matter for them. The winner of the duel gets to decide the matter, whatever the matter may be.

§009:
After a new rule is passed, it must remain in effect for at least three days. If a rule is by any means set to be removed within this period, it will stay active until the end of the three days and only then be removed.

§010:
Each player may gain or lose points in the following manner. Players start with zero points. If a person gets their motion passed, they get 4 points. If it fails, they lose 2 points. If you break a rule, you lose 2 points, unless you broke a rule due to an error made in a State of the Nomic Post. Players may give their points, or any integer subset of their points, to another player. Negative points revert to zero. Players may not give more points than they currently have.
Points may be used to buy the following:
250 - Winner of the Nomic status (can't be bought except by a current Grand High Poobah of the Nomic)
40 - Remove a player's Double Down perk
35 - Grand HIgh Poobah of the Nomic status (available for only 1 player at a time meaning you can't buy it while someone else has it)
25 - Remove a player's Grand HIgh Poobah of the Nomic status
20 - Double Down perk - every motion of yours that passes/fails is worth double the normal amount (which is currently +4/-2). No single player may have two or more copies of the Double Down perk at once. They may buy it, somehow lose it, and repurchase it.
3x - Greed. Remove x amount of a player's points. Example: Alice pays 30 points to destroy/remove (NOT steal) 10 of Bob's points
x - Charity. Give x amount of points to a player. Example: Alice pays 30 points to add 30 points to Bob (note that this is already part of the rules)
2^n - Investments. The n-th investment a player buys costs 2^n points (so the first investment for each player costs 2, then doubles for each new one). At the start of each page in this thread, each player shall receive 2 points for each investment he/she owns.
Points are used with these types of commands:
Buy: Double Down perk for 20 points
Charity: Give 15 of my points to Alice
Greed: Pay 45 points to remove 15 of Alice's points

§011:
A State of the Nomic post has the following properties

- It begins with the phrase: The State of the Nomic:
- It contains the following information, wrapped in spoiler tags:
-- The rule set at the time of posting
-- A list of the current players with one or more points, along with their scores and investments. Players names shall be removed from the State of the Nomic after they haven't posted for 3 weeks in a row.
-- A list of the active motions and a summary of the votes for and against

Any player who makes a State of the Nomic post will be awarded 2 points if a) the information is accurate or later edited for accuracy and b) at least one motion has passed, failed, been withdrawn, or been amended since the last State of the Nomic post. It is forbidden to vote on a motion, making it pass or fail, then post a state of the nomic, then double posting to pass or fail another motion and state of the nomic in an attempt to maximize the number of points they can get from it.

§012:
It is not allowed to include the number of the rule you think a motion will get if it passes in the motion. The rulenumber will be given naturally at the time of approval of the motion; the new rule will get the lowest natural number not currently used by any other rule.

§013:
Motions shall not directly reward everyone who votes in favor of it, anyone who votes in favor of it, or only those who vote in favor of it.

§014:
Any player who promotes this game of Nomic with a link in their signature gets 5 points as long as the link remains in their sig.

§015:
When a winner is declared, he or she shall make a post in the Games section of the xkcd fora titled Nomic 16.1 declaring the start of a new Nomic with an inital set of rules. These rules should be simple and suitable for the beginning of a Nomic, but shall otherwise be chosen at the winner's sole discresion. A winner shall be declared either by a motion to that effect, or according to a rule stating a victory condition.

§016:
Players can make bets and wagers within the game, wagering points earned in the game. A player does this by writing "I wager <positive integer value> point(s) that <some event> will happen by <certain time>. This wager's name will be <player's nickname> Wager #<current wager number>" in bold. Another play may accept the bet by writing "I accept <nickname>'s Wager #<wager number>" in bold. Each wager may be accepted by a maximum of one person. If either player's points fall below the amount of the wager, the wager is cancelled, and the player who had insufficient points is penalized 6 points. Any outstanding wagers (in progress or not yet accepted) should be recorded after the player list in the subsequent State of the Nomic. A player may withdrawal a wager at any time if it has not yet been accepted. A player may not have more than 1 wager active at any given time. Disagreements over the rightful winner of a wager will be settled by the arbiter.

§017:
Any agreement to transfer points amongst players must be made by posting in this thread and only by posting in this thread.

§018:
When you cast your vote for or against a motion, you must also include a summary of the status of the motion in the form "(Now X for, Y against)".
An example: "I cast my vote in favour of Snark's motion for extreme bribery. (Now 2 for, 2 against)"

§019:
The person holding the title of Grand High Poobah of the Nomic has:
1) The ability to veto the last motion that has been passed. This ability takes preference to rules concerning the minimum amount of time a motion must remain active. This ability may be used only once per day (a day being defined as being from midnight to midnight, GMT).
2) The privilege to doublepost in this thread.
3) Permission to have two active motions at once.
4) Permission to have two active wagers at once.
5) The right to brag about this title.
*Note that in order for someone to hold this title, there must first be a rule stating that it is given to someone.

§020:
Editing posts is disallowed in this forum except 1) When a correction needs to be made to a State of the Nomic or 2) One is adding to their post without changing anything already written (one would not be allowed to add the running count after one of their votes) AND a new State of the Nomic has not been written since the time of that post, or 3) The post in question is the last post.

§021:
Once a motion is made and before it is accepted, it may be amended. Amendments of purely grammatical nature do not affect votes; amendments that alter the content of a motion render all votes for the motion void. To amend a motion, one has to write "I amend my [motion name] in the following way: [Description of changes] The complete revised motion is now as follows: [Complete amended motion]"
An example:

I amend my motion to encourage voting in the following way: Instead of "voted on" it shall now say "voted on or abstained from". The complete revised motion is now as follows:

Motion to include the following rule in the rules: In order to make a motion, a player has to have voted on or abstained from all active motions at that time.

§022:
Once per day (a day being defined at midnight to midnight, GMT) a player may attempt to guess the name of the next poster. They cannot guess that they themselves will be the next poster. if they are correct, they are awarded one point.

§023:
Rules on dueling:

1. Anyone may challenge another person to a duel by saying "I challenge [name] to a duel by [method]" where "name" is the username or nick name of the person challenged, and "method" is one of the prescribed methods of duelling (see below).
2. If you have challenged X to a duel, and they have not responded, you can retract your challenge by saying "I retract my challenge to X".
3. If you have been challenged to a duel by X you can respond to the challenge. Either you can refuse the duel by saying "I refuse X's challenge", or you can accept by saying "I accept X's challenge and request Y to be judge", where "Y" is the username or nick name of a proposed judge.
4. After a duel has been accepted matters proceed informally until a judge chosen by the person challenged has agreed to act as judge.
5. Once a duel has been accepted, and a judge selected, the duel may proceed according to the method in the original challenge.
6. When the duel has been resolved the winner of the duel gains 3 points, and the loser loses 2 point. The judge must declare this by saying "X has won a duel against Y. X gains 3 points, Y loses 2 point"
7. If any player takes more than 48 hours between turns, they forfeit the duel.
8. If a judge is taking too long, the players may request a new judge.
9. If a player with honor takes more than 48 hours to accept a duel challenge, the player is assumed to have refused to duel.

Dueling method: Sabres at dawn.

1. There are multiple rounds in this method.
2. In each round the participants choose either "Strike", "Parry", or "Feint" and send their decision via PM to the judge
3. The winner of the round is the participant whose action beats their opponents. Strike beats Feint, Feint beats Parry, Parry beats Strike. If both particpants choose the same action then the round is a draw.
4. After the judge has received each participant's action, the judge must post the result like this: "[challenger][strikes/parries/feints], [challengee][strikes/parries/feints]. [challenger/challengee] scores a hit! OR Neither scores a hit."
5. Once one participant has won two rounds, the duel is resolved, and they are the winner

Dueling method: Pistols at High Noon.

1. The duel starts when the judge says so in a post. This post is counted as post 0 for the duel.
2. For the next five posts (posts 1 through 5), nothing duel related happens. (this symbolizes taking five steps away from each other before shooting) The participants may still post during this period, and their posts count as steps, but it doesn't affect the outcome of the duel.
3. After these five posts, the first of the participants to make a post wins.
4. For the entire duration of the duel (from post 0 to the winning post) both participants are forbidden from double posting. This takes precedence over all other rules that might allow double posting. If a participant double posts during this time, he/she is immediately disqualified, and looses the duel.

Dueling method: Mousetrap at Sunset

1. The duel starts when the judge says so in a post and will last 24 hours from the time of that post.
2. In the opening post, the judge will provide links to two Wikipedia articles, which he will title A1 and A2.
3. Duelers will then post link paths from A1 to A2 with the goal of minimizing the number of links it takes to travel from A1 to A2, while staying within Wikipedia and clicking only on links within the article (not Random Article, Featured Content, or the like).
4. Duelers may post as many different link paths as they like.
5. Any edited posts of the duelers will be entirely disregarded for the purposes of the duel.
6. Players who are not dueling (including the judge) who try to help the duelers in any way will incur a penalty of 5 points.
7. Players are not allowed to edit Wikipedia articles in ways that would help themselves or hurt their opponent. Any violations of this rule will result in a 10 point deduction, loss of the duel, and permanent loss of honor (and failure to regain honor).
8. After 24 hours from the time of the judge's duel-starting post, no more submissions are accepted from the duelers.
9. After the 24 hour submission period is over, the judge verifies the solutions and declares a winner. The winner is the dueler who has posted the shortest link path. In case of a tie, the dueler who posted their solution first wins.

Duelling method: Drinks at Dusk.

1. The duel starts when the judge says that he/she sets out two drinks. The challenger poisons one of them, and messages the judge.
2. The other participant choses drink 1 or drink 2.
3. The judge reveals which drink was poisoned. If the participant drank the poisoned drink, he/she loses, otherwise he/she wins the duel.
4. No player is immune to poison.

§024:
Players may play chess in the following manner. Any player may join the game as part of Team Black or Team White at any time by posting in bold italics "I join team [Black / White]." Once a member of one team, a player may not switch teams. A player can make a move for their team by posting to the forum in bold italics using standard chess move notation. No player can post two consecutive moves for their team. A player is awarded 1 point for capturing a pawn, 3 for capturing a bishop or knight, 5 for a rook, and 8 for a queen. The player who makes the winning checkmate move is awarded 15 points and every other winning team member is awarded 10 points.

§025:
Player's may use the status of "honor" in the following manner. A player may say "I have honor." in order to get honor. The State of the Nomic Post shall have an account of which people have honor. People with honor shall receive 5 points at the start of each page in this thread, but all penalties they get are to be doubled. People with honor also shall be penalized 3 points for refusing any duel (note that this penalty will also be doubled). A player may lose his honor by writing "I no longer have honor.", in which event he/she will immediately be penalized 5 points (not doubled). Titles may also be honorable. Honorable titles may only be taken by people who have honor. If a person loses his/her honor, he/she also loses all honorable titles. If a new title is introduced by a motion, it has to be specified whether the title is honorable or not. Current honorable titles: Grand High Poobah of the Nomic, Arbiter

§026:
In order to make any action defined in the rules other than voting or abstaining from voting (including, but not limited to, making, amending, or withdrawing a motion, making a State of the Nomic post, making or accepting a wager, participating in a duel, making a chess move, spending points, declaring honor, guessing the next poster, or asking for clarification) a player must first vote on or abstain from voting on every active motion.

§027:
Rules for duelling tournaments.

1. A tournament may only be proposed by way of a motion. This motion must at a minimum set out who the Tournament Organizer is and what duelling method will be used in the tournament.
2. Once a tournament motion has been passed, 8 competitors must register their interest. The three who voted for the motion are already assumed to have done this. The others must do so by saying "[name] wants to compete in the tournament". If there are not 8 interested competitors after 72 hours of the motion being passed, the Organizer must make a sad face, and explain the state of affairs in haiku form.
3. Once 8 competitors have registered their interest, the tournament begins. The Organizer receives 1 point.
4. The Organizer must publish a list of randomized pairings for the first round, and a randomly assigned judge for each (judges will be drawn from the competitors only). Each of these pairs must duel by the chosen method, and the judge must judge. Duels are assumed to automatically have been challenged and accepted.
5. Play proceeds by knockout, and after all the duels in a round have been fought, the Organizer posts a new randomized list of pairings for the next round made up of the winners of the previous round.
6. The normal rules for point gain and loss for duels do not apply. Instead, a victory in Round 1 wins 2 points, in Round 2, 3 points, and in Round 3 (the final round) 5 points. No points are lost for losing a duel.
7. The motion that proposed the tournament may define additional prizes.
8. There cannot be two tournaments simultaneously.

All motions:

Spoiler:

Motion #31 Snarky's motion to establish a points system
Motion to establish the following points system. Points may be used to buy the following:

250 - Winner of the Nomic status (can't be bought except by a current Grand High Poobah of the Nomic)
35 - Grand HIgh Poobah of the Nomic status (available for only 1 player at a time meaning you can't buy it while someone else has it)
25 - Remove a player's Grand HIgh Poobah of the Nomic status
20 - Double Down perk - every motion of yours that passes/fails is worth double the normal amount (which is currently +4/-2). No single player may have two or more copies of the Double Down perk at once. They may buy it, somehow lose it, and repurchase it.
20 - Remove a player's Double Down perk
3x - Greed. Remove x amount of a player's points. Example: Alice pays 30 points to destroy/remove (NOT steal) 10 of Bob's points
x - Charity. Give x amount of points to a player. Example: Alice pays 30 points to add 30 points to Bob (note that this is already part of the rules)
Points are used with these types of commands:
Buy: Double Down perk for 20 points
Charity: Give 15 of my points to Alice
Greed: Pay 45 points to remove 15 of Alice's points

Votes: 3 for (Fiery, Spikey, Monty), 1 against (Yellow)
Motion passed. Added to §010.

Motion #32 Yellow's motion to avoid paradoxical motions
Motion to add the following rule: "If a motion which would cause a paradox is proposed, it will be ignored and the player proposing it will be fined for 5 points. If a rule is accepted and it causes a paradox (alone or with other rules already present), the rule (resp. the rules) will be ignored and all other mentions suspended while the players vote on what rules to keep. This pause in the game will remain active until either 2/3 of the players have voted or 3 days have passed."
Votes: 0 for, 3 against (Godwin, Alex, Snark)
Motion failed

Motion #33 JesseScottOwen's motion to introduce gambling
Motion to make the following rule. Players can make bets and wagers within the game, wagering points earned in the game.
Votes 3 for (Yellow, Alex, Snarky), 0 against
Motion passed, added as rule §017

Motion #34 Alex's motion to prevent secret diplomacy.
Motion to create a rule stating that any agreement to transfer points amongst players must be made by posting in this thread and only by posting in this thread. Votes 2 for (Snarky, Godwin, Fiery), 0 against
Motion passed added as rule §018

Motion #35 Spikey's motion to reduce voting confusion.
Motion to create a rule stating that when you cast your vote for or against a motion, you must also include a summary of the status of the motion in the form "(Now X for, Y against)".
An example: "I cast my vote in favour of Snark's motion for extreme bribery. (Now 2 for, 2 against)"
Votes: 3 for (Fiery, Snarky, Monty), 1 against (Godwin)
Motion passed, §019 created.

Motion #36 Fierys motion to encourage voting
Motion to include the following rule in the rules: In order to make a motion, a player has to have voted on all active motions at that time.
Votes: 2 for (Snarky, Monty), 2 against (Godwin, Spikey)
Motion retracted.

Motion #37 Monty's motion to allow abstention
Motion to modify rule three to read as follows:
§003:
To vote in favor of or against a motion, one must declare one's vote by saying "I cast my vote [in favor of/against] [motion-maker]'s motion to [motion summary]." For example, one could say "I cast my vote in favor of ahammel's motion to grant himself a meaningless title.". No player shall vote for his own motion, and no player may vote for or against a motion more than once (though they may change their vote).
A player may also abstain from a vote by saying "I abstain from voting on [motion-maker]'s motion to [motion summary]."
The player who makes the deciding vote on a motion must after his/her vote write "Motion [passed/denied or appropriate synonym]. [Player name/nickname] [awarded/penalized or appropriate synonym] [# of points] points." where the number of points is as specified in the rules. For example, one could write "I cast my vote in favor of Alex's motion to grant himself a meaningless title. Motion passed. Alex awarded 2 points."
Votes: 3 for (Snarky, Godwin, Fiery), 0 against
Motion passed. §003 amended accordingly.

Motion #38 Snark's motion to establish rules for gambling
Motion to expand upon §017. Snarky would like it to say:

Players can make bets and wagers within the game, wagering points earned in the game. A player does this by writing "I wager <positive integer value> point(s) that <some event> will happen. This wager's name will be <player's nickname> Wager #<current wager number>" in bold. Another play may accept the bet by writing "I accept <nickname>'s Wager #<wager number>". Each wager may only be accepted by one person. If either player's points fall below the amount of the wager, the wager is cancelled, and the player who had insufficient points is penalized 3 points. Any outstanding wagers (in progress or not yet accepted) should be recorded after the player list in the subsequent State of the Nomic.

Votes: 0 for, 1 against (Monty)
Motion retracted

Motion #39 Monty's motion to allow more trivial point gain.
Motion to double all current point awards, excepting the points awarded for having the link in your signature. For example having a motion passed will result in 4 points as opposed to 2.
Votes: 4 for (Spikey, Carey, Osrich, QQQVAR), 0 against
Motion passed, rules amended accordingly

Motion #40 Snark's motion to establish improved rules for gambling
Motion to expand upon §017. Snarky would like it to say:

Players can make bets and wagers within the game, wagering points earned in the game. A player does this by writing "I wager <positive integer value> point(s) that <some event> will happen by <certain time>. This wager's name will be <player's nickname> Wager #<current wager number>" in bold. Another play may accept the bet by writing "I accept <nickname>'s Wager #<wager number>" in bold. Each wager may be accepted by a maximum of one person. If either player's points fall below the amount of the wager, the wager is cancelled, and the player who had insufficient points is penalized 3 points. Any outstanding wagers (in progress or not yet accepted) should be recorded after the player list in the subsequent State of the Nomic. A player may withdrawal a wager at any time if it has not yet been accepted. A player may not have more than 1 wager active at any given time.

Votes: 4 for (Spikey, Carey, Osrich, QQQVAR), 0 against
Motion passed, §017 amended accordingly.

Motion #41 Story Weaver's motion to reward dedication to the realm.
Motion to reward Fiery for his tireless work in the service of the great nation of Nomic, writing so many of State of the Nomic posts which take quite a bit of work to put together correctly. If this motion passes each player at the time the motion is passed who has a positive number of points will give Fiery 1 point. To simplify administration, these points will be transferred immediately upon the motion being passed (so that everyone doesn't have to explicitly say "I give...") to appear in the next State of the Nomic
Votes: 0 for, 2 against (Carey, Snarky), 1 abstain (Osrich)
Motion retracted

Motion #42 Carey's motion to give everyone a chance to vote.
Motion to amend rule 4 to allow for the following: Voting for a motion shall remain open for at least 48 hours. After 48 hours a motion passes if there are at least three votes in favor and there are more votes in favor than against. A motion fails if there are at least three votes against and there are more votes against than in favor. If there is a tie with at least three votes in favor and three votes against then the motion will be decided by the next vote. Otherwise, voting will remain open until there are three votes in favor or three votes against.
Votes: 0 for, 3 against (Snarky, Spikey, Odin)
Motion failed

Motion #43 Snarky's motion to create accountability and reduce confusion.
Motion to disallow editing posts in this forum except when a correction needs to be made to a State of the Nomic.
Votes: 3 for (Carey, Fiery, Spikey), 0 against
Motion passed. Added as rule §021

Motion #44 Carey's motion to require four votes.
Motion to amend rule §004 to require four votes to accept or refuse a motion.
Votes: 1 for (Monty), 2 against (Spikey, Snarky, Alex)
Motion denied.

Motion #45 Fiery's motion to allow motion amending
Motion to add the following rule:

Once a motion is made and before it is accepted, it may be amended. Amendments of purely grammatical nature do not affect votes; amendments that alter the content of a motion render all votes for the motion void. To amend a motion, one has to write "I amend my [motion name] in the following way: [Description of changes] The complete revised motion is now as follows: [Complete amended motion]"
An example:

I amend my motion to encourage voting in the following way: Instead of "voted on" it shall now say "voted on or abstained from". The complete revised motion is now as follows:

Motion to include the following rule in the rules: In order to make a motion, a player has to have voted on or abstained from all active motions at that time.

Votes: 3 for (Spikey, Snarky, Carey), 1 against (Monty)
Motion passed. Added as rule §022

Motion #46 Monty's motion for added silliness
Motion to begin a mini-game thingy.
Once per day (a day being defined at midnight to midnight, GMT) a player may attempt to guess the name of the next poster. if they are correct, they are awarded one point.
Votes: 2 for (Fiery, Spikey), 2 against (Snarky, Carey)
Motion retracted

Motion #47 Snarky's motion to remove an overcomplicated rule
Motion to remove §016 (quoted below) because it's so incredibly confusing and intricate, and we have another simpler method for determing the winner already in place.

The Winner shall have previously attained the rank of Grand High Poobah of the Nomic (GHPotN)
At some point while holding this status, another player will garner enough points to be considered GHPotN; at this time, the player can officially challenge the GHPotN by stating, "I challenge your status as GHPotN and request a vote to determine the true holder of the rank."
A vote shall take place among the GHPotN, the challenger, and any Poobahs Emeriti (see below); when 24 hours have passed or 2/3 of players have voted, whichever comes later, the tally shall be counted.
If the current holder of the GHPotN title has won the tally, that player becomes The Winner.
If the challenger wins the tally, that player becomes GHPotN until such time as that player is challenged as set forth here; in that case, the previous GHPotN becomes Poobah Emeritus.
Any and all Poobahs Emeritus are included in each Challenger's Vote and can re-attain status of GHPotN if they win the tally.
Poobahs Emeriti can re-challenge the current GHPotN when they have gained 5 points from the time of being made Poobah Emeritus.
Only if the current holder of the GHPotN title can become the Winner, if and only if they win the tally. However, a player may also gain the status of the Winner by any other method to do so described in the rules.

Votes: 3 for (Spikey, Carey, Monty), 1 against (Fiery)
Motion passed. §016 removed.

Motion #48 Monty's motion for added silliness, now with flavor
I make a motion to begin a mini-game thingy.
Once per day (a day being defined at midnight to midnight, GMT) a player may attempt to guess the name of the next poster. They cannot guess that they themselves will be the next poster. if they are correct, they are awarded one point.
For the purposes of voting, this motion will be referred to as Monty's motion for added silliness, now with flavor.
Votes: 3 for (Fiery, Spikey, Carey), 0 against.
Motion passed. Added to rules as §022.

Motion #49 Fiery's motion to keep track of the score
Motion to add the following rule:

Whenever any player gains or looses points an updated table of current scores must be included in the post where it first became apparent that points where lost or gained.

Votes: 1 for (Carey), 3 against (Snarky, Alex, Spikey)
Motion denied

Motion #50 Snark's motion to prevent disputes regarding wagers.
Motion to add deciding wagers to the duties of the arbiter. I'd like to add the following sentence to the rule detailing the duties of the arbiter:

The arbiter may also be called upon to resolve disagreements regarding the outcome of wagers. If the arbiter himself is involved in the wager in question, the arbiter shall appoint a neutral party, a temporary assistant arbiter, to decide the outcome of the wager in which the arbiter is involved.

And add the following sentence to the rule detailing how wagers are made:

Disagreements over the rightful winner of a wager will be settled by the arbiter.

Votes: 2 for (Spikey, Carey, Fiery), 0 against
Motion passed. Rules §008 and §016 edited accordingly

Motion #51 Spikey's motion to give everyone cookies.
Motion that every player in this game of Nomic receive one internet cookie. If and when this motion is passed, Story Weaver will post pictures of delicious cookies equal in number to the number of players listed in the most recent State of the Nomic post.
Votes: 2 for (Carey, Alex, Odin), 1 against (Fiery)
Motion passed.

Motion #52 Snarky's motion to prevent the Poobah from being a juggernaut and vetoing a cheeseload of motions.
Motion to alter the powers of the Grand High Poobah of the Nomic. See the proposed new wording below. The underlined words indicate new additions.

The person holding the title of Grand High Poobah of the Nomic has:
1) The ability to veto the last motion that has been passed. This ability takes preference to rules concerning the minimum amount of time a motion must remain active. This ability may be used only once per day (a day being defined as being from midnight to midnight, GMT).
2) The privilege to doublepost in this thread.
3) Permission to have two active motions at once.
4) Permission to have two active wagers at once.
5) The right to brag about this title.
*Note that in order for someone to hold this title, there must first be a rule stating that it is given to someone.

Votes: 4 for (Alex, Spikey, Fiery, Carey), 0 against.
Motion passed, §019 amended accordingly

Motion #53 Fierys motion to add investments
Motion to make the following amendments to rule $010:
- raise the cost of removing the double down perk to 40 points
- add a new item that can be bought: Investments. The first investment a player buys costs 2 points, each subsequent investment cost twice of the one bought before that (so the n-th investment for each player will cost 2^(n-1) points). At the start of each page in this thread, each player shall receive 2 points for each investment he/she owns.
For the purposes of voting, this motion will be referred to as Fierys motion to add investments.
Votes: 3 for (Snarky, Carey), 0 against.
Motion passed. Rule §010 amended accordingly.

Motion #54 Carey's motion to play chess
Motion to establish a game of team chess. Any player may join the game as part of team black or team white at any time. A player can make a move by posting to the forum using standard chess move notation. No player can post two consecutive moves for their team. A player is awarded 1 point for capturing a pawn, 3 for capturing a bishop or knight, 5 for a rook, and 8 for a queen. The player who makes the winning checkmate move is awarded 15 points and every other winning team member is awarded 10 points.
Votes: 1 for, 0 against
Motion retracted.

Motion #55 Fiery's motion to not penalize people for others mistakes
Motion to amend rule §010 in the following way:
Instead of "If you break a rule, you lose 2 points." I want it to say: "If you break a rule, you lose 2 points, unless you broke a rule due to an error made in a State of the Nomic Post."
Votes: 3 for (Carey, Spikey, Snarky), 0 against
Motion passed. Rule §010 amended.

Motion #56 Carey's new motion to play chess
Motion to establish a game of team chess. Any player may join the game as part of Team Black or Team White at any time by posting in bold italics "I join team [Black / White]." Once a member of one team, a player may not switch teams. A player can make a move for their team by posting to the forum in bold italics using standard chess move notation. No player can post two consecutive moves for their team. A player is awarded 1 point for capturing a pawn, 3 for capturing a bishop or knight, 5 for a rook, and 8 for a queen. The player who makes the winning checkmate move is awarded 15 points and every other winning team member is awarded 10 points.
Votes: 3 for (Fiery, Odin, Snarky), 0 against
Motion passed and added to rules as §024

Motion #57 Spikey's motion to seek honour for his cookies (and introduce duelling)
motion to add the following new rule:

Rules on duelling:

1. Anyone may challenge another person to a duel by saying "I challenge [name] to a duel by [method]" where "name" is the username or nick name of the person challenged, and "method" is one of the prescribed methods of duelling (see below).
2. If you have challenged X to a duel, and they have not responded, you can retract your challenge by saying "I retract my challenge to X".
3. If you have been challenged to a duel by X you can respond to the challenge. Either you can refuse the duel by saying "I refuse X's challenge", or you can accept by saying "I accept X's challenge and request Y to be judge", where "Y" is the username or nick name of a proposed judge.
4. After a duel has been accepted matters proceed informally until a judge chosen by the person challenged has agreed to act as judge.
5. Once a duel has been accepted, and a judge selected, the duel may proceed according to the method in the original challenge.
6. When the duel has been resolved the winner of the duel gains 3 points, and the loser loses 2 point. The judge must declare this by saying "X has won a duel against Y. X gains 2 points, Y loses 1 point"
7. Players who attempt to start a duel when they are already in one, or who attempt to challenge someone who is already dueling will lose 2 points

Duelling method: Sabres at dawn.

1. There are multiple rounds in this method.
2. In each round the participants choose either "Strike", "Parry", or "Feint" and send their decision via PM to the judge
3. The winner of the round is the participant whose action beats their opponents. Strike beats Feint, Feint beats Parry, Parry beats Strike. If both particpants choose the same action then the round is a draw.
4. After the judge has received each participant's action, the judge must post the result like this: "[challenger][strikes/parries/feints], [challengee][strikes/parries/feints]. [challenger/challengee] scores a hit! OR Neither scores a hit."
5. Once one participant has won two rounds, the duel is resolved, and they are the winner

Votes: 3 for (Fiery, Odin, Carey), 0 against
Motion passed, rule §023 added

Motion #58 Snarky's motion to keep it fresh
Motion to remove player's names from the State of the Nomic after they haven't posted for 3 weeks in a row.
Votes: 3 for (Carey, Spikey, Fiery), 0 against
Motion passed, rule §011 edited accordingly

Motion #59 Fierys motion to create honor
Motion to create honor. A player may say "I have honor." in order to get honor. The State of the Nomic Post shall have an account of which people have honor. People with honor shall receive 5 points at the start of each page in this thread, but all penalties they get are to be doubled. People with honor also shall be penalized 3 points for refusing any duel (note that this penalty will also be doubled). A player may loose his honor by writing "I no longer have honor.", in which event he/she will immediately be penalized 5 points (not doubled).
Votes: 3 for (Carey, Spikey, Snarky), 0 against
Motion passed and added to the rules as §025

Motion #60 Spikey's motion to encourage financial scrutiny
Motion to amend rule §011 so that investments have to be listed in State of the Nomic posts. Specifically, I want it to read:

A State of the Nomic post has the following properties
- It begins with the phrase: The State of the Nomic:
- It contains the following information, wrapped in spoiler tags:
-- The rule set at the time of posting
-- A list of the current players with one or more points, along with their scores and investments
-- A list of the active motions and a summary of the votes for and against

Any player who makes a State of the Nomic post will be awarded 2 points if a) the information is accurate or later edited for accuracy and b) at least one motion has passed, failed, been withdrawn, or been amended since the last State of the Nomic post.

Votes: 3 for (Carey, Fiery, Snarky), 0 against
Motion passed, §011 amended accordingly

Motion #61 Matt96's motion to prevent manipulation of points awarded
Motion to prevent people from voting on a motion, making it pass or fail, then post a state of the nomic, then double posting to pass or fail another motion and state of the nomic in an attempt to maximize the number of points they can get from it.
Votes: 3 for (Fiery, Carey, Spikey), 0 against
Motion passed, added to rule §011

Motion #62 Fierys motion to introduce Pistols at High Noon
Motion to introduce a new dueling method, which shall be added to rule §023 if this motion is accepted.
Duelling method: Pistols at High Noon.

1. The duel starts when the judge says so in a post. This post is counted as post 0 for the duel.
2. For the next five posts (posts 1 through 5), nothing duel related happens. (this symbolizes taking five steps away from each other before shooting) The participants may still post during this period, but it doesn't affect the outcome of the duel.
3. After these five posts, the first of the participants to make a post wins.
4. For the entire duration of the duel (from post 0 to the winning post) both participants are forbidden from double posting. This takes precedence over all other rules that might allow double posting. If a participant double posts during this time, he/she is immediately disqualified, and looses the duel.

Votes: 3 for(matt96, Odin, Carey), 0 against
Motion passed, rule §023 amended.

Motion #63 Snarky's motion to really integrate dueling.
Motion to allow the arbiter to force two parties to duel in cases where the two parties disagree, and the arbiter does not wish to decide the fate of the matter for them. The winner of the duel gets to decide the matter, whatever the matter may be.
Votes: 3 for (Carey, Odin, Fiery), 0 against
Motion passed, rule §008 edited accordingly

Motion #64 Carey's motion to encourage voting
Motion to add the following rule:
In order to make any action defined in the rules other than voting or abstaining from voting (including, but not limited to, making, amending, or withdrawing a motion, making a State of the Nomic post, making or accepting a wager, participating in a duel, making a chess move, spending points, declaring honor, guessing the next poster, or asking for clarification) a player must first vote on or abstain from voting on every active motion. For purposes of voting this motion will be referred to as Carey's motion to encourage voting.
Votes: 3 for (Fiery, Snarky, Spikey), 1 against (Odin)
Motion passed and added to rules as §026

Motion #65 Fiery's motion to add another title to the game
Motion to introduce the title of Gamemaster.
A person who is a Gamemaster may decide any disputes regarding games (currently Chess, Wagers and Duels. This list is to be updated if new games are added to the game.) Furthermore, only a Gamemaster may judge a duel. More than one person may have the title of Gamemaster. A Gamemaster is chosen in the following manner:
Any player may nominate any other player (including himself or herself) for the title by posting "I nominate [nickname] for the title of Gamemaster." Any player aside from the nominator may second the nomination by posting "I second the nomination of [nickname] for the title of Gamemaster". Once a player has been nominated and seconded by two different players, he or she must accept the title by posting "I accept the title or Gamemaster".
Votes: 1 for (Snarky), 3 against (Spikey, Odin, froggy), 1 abstain (Carey)
Motion failed

Motion #66 Odin's motion to introduce Drinks at Dusk
Motion to introduce a new dueling method, which shall be added to rule §023 if this motion is accepted.
Duelling method: Drinks at Dusk.
1. The duel starts when the judge says that he/she sets out two drinks. The challenger poisons one of them, and messages the judge.
2. The other participant choses drink 1 or drink 2.
3. The judge reveals which drink was poisoned. If the participant drank the poisoned drink, he/she loses, otherwise he/she wins the duel.
4. No player is immune to poison.
Votes: 3 for (Carey, Fiery, froggy), 2 against (Spikey, Snarky)
Motion passed, rule §023 amended.

Motion #67 Snarky's motion to prevent duel spamming
Motion to prevent anyone from fighting in more than 1 duel at a time. Players who attempt to start a duel when they are already in one, or who attempt to challenge someone who is already dueling will lose 2 points
Votes: 3 for (Spikey, Fiery, Carey), 0 against
Motion passed, rule amended

Motion #68 Spikey's motion to give everyone a chance to duel
Motion to add the following new rule:

Rules for duelling tournaments.

1. A tournament may only be proposed by way of a motion. This motion must at a minimum set out who the Tournament Organizer is and what duelling method will be used in the tournament.
2. Once a tournament motion has been passed, 8 competitors must register their interest. The three who voted for the motion are already assumed to have done this. The others must do so by saying "[name] wants to compete in the tournament". If there are not 8 interested competitors after 72 hours of the motion being passed, the Organizer must make a sad face, and explain the state of affairs in haiku form.
3. Once 8 competitors have registered their interest, the tournament begins. The Organizer receives 1 point.
4. The Organizer must publish a list of randomized pairings for the first round, and a randomly assigned judge for each (judges will be drawn from the competitors only). Each of these pairs must duel by the chosen method, and the judge must judge. Duels are assumed to automatically have been challenged and accepted.
5. Play proceeds by knockout, and after all the duels in a round have been fought, the Organizer posts a new randomized list of pairings for the next round made up of the winners of the previous round.
6. The normal rules for point gain and loss for duels do not apply. Instead, a victory in Round 1 wins 2 points, in Round 2, 3 points, and in Round 3 (the final round) 5 points. No points are lost for losing a duel.
7. The motion that proposed the tournament may define additional prizes.
8. There cannot be two tournaments simultaneously.

and to propose a tournament, entitled "Challenge of the Desert Blade", with myself as the Organizer, and with Sabres at Dawn as the chosen method. The winner of this tournament acquires the title of Blademaster.
Votes: 3 for (Carey, Odin, Snarky), 0 against, 1 abstain (froggy)
Motion passed and added to rules as §027

Motion #69 Snarky's motion to establish time limits.
Motion to impose a maximum time period for any responses or turns during dueling. If any player takes more than 48 hours between turns, they forfeit the duel. If a judge is taking too long, the players may request a new judge. If a player with honor takes more than 48 hours to accept a duel challenge, the player is assumed to have refused to duel.
Votes: 3 for (Carey, Fiery, Spikey), 0 against
Motion passed, §023 amended accordingly

Motion #70 Fiery's motion to honor titles
Motion to introduce honorable titles, by adding the following to rule §025:

Titles may also be honorable. Honorable titles may only be taken by people who have honor. If a person looses his/her honor, he/she also looses all honorable titles. If a new title is introduced by a motion, it has to be specified whether the title is honorable or not.

and to make the titles of Arbiter and Grand High Poobah of the Nomic honorable.
Votes: 3 for (Spikey, Odin, froggy), 1 against (Snarky), 1 abstain (Carey)
Motion passes, §025 amended accordingly.

Motion #71 Carey's motion to introduce Thread Necromancy
Motion to introduce a new dueling method, Midnight Thread Necromancy.
Dueling Method: Midnight Thread Necromancy

1. The judge begins the duel by writing in bold italics Let the duel begin!
2. Every post made by a duel participant scores a number of minutes² equal to the square of the number of minutes since the last post. (Note that using the square of the time ensures that post spamming is not an effective strategy)
3. Any double post or pointless post by a participant results in disqualification, and the other participant is the winner.
4. A pointless post is defined to be any post that does not make an action defined in the rules or contribute meaningfully to the thread conversation. (Yes, this is intentionally vague.)
5. Post pointlessness is determined by the judge, whose decision is final.
6. The first participant to score 3600 minutes² is the winner

Votes: 0 for, 1 against (Snarky)

Motion #72 Snarky's motion to add an epic dueling method involving Wikipedia
Motion to introduce a new dueling method, which shall be added to the dueling rule if this motion is accepted.
Dueling method: Mousetrap at Sunset

1. The duel starts when the judge says so in a post and will last 24 hours from the time of that post.
2. In the opening post, the judge will provide links to two Wikipedia articles, which he will title A1 and A2.
3. Duelers will then post link paths from A1 to A2 with the goal of minimizing the number of links it takes to travel from A1 to A2, while staying within Wikipedia and clicking only on links within the article (not Random Article, Featured Content, or the like).
4. Duelers may post as many different link paths as they like.
5. Any edited posts of the duelers will be entirely disregarded for the purposes of the duel.
6. Players who are not dueling (including the judge) who try to help the duelers in any way will incur a penalty of 5 points.
7. Players are not allowed to edit Wikipedia articles in ways that would help themselves or hurt their opponent. Any violations of this rule will result in a 10 point deduction, loss of the duel, and permanent loss of honor (and failure to regain honor).
8. After 24 hours from the time of the judge's duel-starting post, no more submissions are accepted from the duelers.
9. After the 24 hour submission period is over, the judge verifies the solutions and declares a winner. The winner is the dueler who has posted the shortest link path. In case of a tie, the dueler who posted their solution first wins.

Votes: 3 for (Carey, Odin, froggy), 0 against
Motion passed, rule §023 amended.

Motion #73 Froggy's motion to put links in the State of the Nomic post
Motion to introduce links into the list of active motions in the State of the Nomic post.
In a State of the Nomic posts, weblinks shall be included with each motion listed under "Active motions" that shall direct to the post that originally describes that motion.
Votes: 0 for, 2 against (Carey, Snarky)

Motion #74 Snarky's motion to prevent SotN's from not representing the true SotN
Motion to disallow players from posting "In Progress" State of the Nomics in an effort to guarantee their ability to post one whether or not they're the fastest to complete it. Players must believe, to the best of their knowledge, that a State of the Nomic is correct in its entirety before posting it.
Votes: 0 for, 0 against[/b][/i]

Active motions:

Spoiler:

Motion #68 Spikey's motion to give everyone a chance to duel
Motion to add a rule about tournaments and to propose a tournament.
Votes: 2 for (Carey, Odin), 1 against (Snarky), 1 abstain (froggy)

Motion #71 Carey's motion to introduce Thread Necromancy
Motion to introduce a new dueling method, Midnight Thread Necromancy.
Votes: 0 for, 1 against (Snarky)

Motion #73 Froggy's motion to put links in the State of the Nomic post
Motion to introduce links into the list of active motions in the State of the Nomic post.
Votes: 0 for, 2 against (Carey, Snarky)

Motion #74 Snarky's motion to prevent SotN's from not representing the true SotN
Motion to disallow players from posting "In Progress" State of the Nomics
Votes: 0 for, 0 against

[Snark]

Charity: Give 7 of my points to Carey

I change my vote so that I cast my vote in favor of Carey's motion to introduce Thread Necromancy (Now 1 for, 0 against)

[careyhammer]

Sorry, Snarky. I should have checked to see if you were working on one too.
I cast my vote against Snarky's motion to prevent SotN's from not representing the true SotN.(Now 0 for, 1 against)
Charity: Give 2 of my points to Snarky
Edit: Snarky Parries, Odin Feints, Odin scores a hit!


I cant post anything right the first time.
The five points for honor are not awarded until the next page I believe .

[Snark]

@Carey
You're right about the honor thing. Thanks. Second time I've messed that up.

The motion doesn't say it has to be perfect, just that you should try. There is a preview button.

[Snark]

In any case, I won't be a jerk and try to race to finish any SotN's before you in the future.

[careyhammer]

Agreed. Me neither. I actually think that an in progress post is a good idea because it lets other players know not to bother with the effort because I am already working on it.

[careyhammer]

Buy: investment for 16 points

[Snark]

Ok Carey, I see your point so...
I retract my motion to prevent SotN's from not representing the true SotN.

I make a motion to edit the dueling method, Sabres at dawn, in the following way:
Dueling method: Sabres at dawn.

1. There are multiple rounds in this method.
2. In each round the participants choose either "Strike", "Parry", or "Feint" and send their decision via PM to the judge. All 3 rounds worth of actions should be sent in a single PM.
3. The winner of the round is the participant whose action beats their opponents. Strike beats Feint, Feint beats Parry, Parry beats Strike. If both particpants choose the same action then the round is a draw.
4. After the judge has received each participant's action, the judge must post the result like this: "[challenger][strikes/parries/feints], [challengee][strikes/parries/feints]. [challenger/challengee] scores a hit! OR Neither scores a hit."
5. Once one participant has won two rounds, the duel is resolved, and they are the winner. The judge should announce the winner.

For the purposes of voting, this motion will be referred to Snarky's motion to quicken Sabres at dawn and prevent an excessive number of PMs.

[Odilo]

I put a link in my signature, so the next person to post a SotN should add 5 points to my score. Thanks.

Black's move: Qa5
Board

I cast my vote against Carey's motion to introduce Thread Necromancy (Now 1 for, 1 against)
I cast my vote against Froggy's motion to put links in the State of the Nomic post (Now 0 for, 3 against) Motion fails. Froggy penalized 2 points.
I abstain from voting for Snarky's motion to quicken Sabres at dawn and prevent an excessive number of PMs. (Now 0 for, 0 against, 1 abstain)

[Snark]

Carey, would you do the honor of making the next SotN? Odin just failed a motion.

[Story Weaver]

I cast my vote against Snarky's motion to quicken Sabres at dawn and prevent an excessive number of PMs (Now 0 for, 1 against, 1 abstain).

The reason being that, despite what others have said, Sabres at Dawn (unlike Drinks at Dusk) isn't completely random. It is basically rock, paper, scissors, and as you may know, it's a game that may seem random, but actually has a lot of psychology and skill involved. I don't think all of it transfers over to the Internet, but it still helps.

However, I have a possible solution to your problem that I have been mulling over. I will make a motion tomorrow and also post the tournament listings tomorrow my time (GMT).

Spikey wants to compete in the tournament.

Duellists for the tournament please declare yourselves! So far we have Carey, Odin, Snarky, and myself.

[careyhammer]

Thanks, Snarky. I'm going to wait until the next page, which should be in just a few minutes.

Odin, the rule says you have to vote first, so I think thats a penalty for not writing the votes first.

Snarky parries, Odin strikes, Snarky scores a hit!
(Thats 1 hit each, with 1 tie, we need another round. You might want to amend your motion Snarky.)