niende wrote:also, "hero of humble origins" is not exactly patented by Tolkien. Luke skywalker grew up on a farm, superman was riased in Smallville. even Moses was a sheepherder (or goat-herder?). not to mention king david or Jesus. You can't claim those were ripped from LoTR.
Actually, we can. Star Wars and Superman postdate LOTR. I would put good money on many of the plot points of Star Wars being... greatly
influenced by LOTR.
I would agree that the "hero of humble origins", as you said, is a trope as old as storytelling. I've seen it in myths and legends from all around the world, including the slaves-to-rulers stories of the Hebrews and the Aztecs (have a look-see--the two are remarkably similar). Hell, look at your average, run-of-the-mill fairy tale: Puss in Boots, Jack and the Beanstalk, the boy who managed to stay all night in a haunted castle....
The agricultural origin is a throwback to our origins: not a 100 years ago, all civilizations depended on agricultural laborers who made up the great majority of the population, and most nations in the present day still have this arrangement. So, you were either a farmer or a nobleman; noblemen were already great, so the only way to have a rags-to-riches story would be to go from a farmer to a nobleman.
This seems especially less silly when most fantasy worlds are set in world resembling feudal Europe. In fact, the sillier thing is that you don't see or hear of more farmers in these stories. For all their worldbuilding, I get the feeling that a great many writers forgot to figure out the economy. Of course, most also seem to have D&D or WoW as their major influence, which doesn't help.
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