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by **orangedragonfire** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:35 pm UTC

I cast my vote in favor of Odin's motion to get the chess game moving. (now 1 for, 0 against)

I have no idea what duels Snarky was in. 2 points to anyone who can write a complete list of all active duels, with participants, judge, and their current status.

(charged Patzer 4 points for investment)
(would have penalized Patzer 2 points for not updating the wiki, but he was at 0 already)
(-3 to Carey and +3 to Patzer due to Charity)
(awarded Fiery 8 points for passed motion)
(awarded 3 points each to Fiery, Carey, Spikey, matt96, Null)
(awarded Odin 8 points for passed motion)
(awarded Carey 8 points for passed motion)
(charged Odin a total of 15 for lottery tickets)
(charged Carey a total of 15 for lottery tickets)
(charged Fiery a total of 10 for lottery tickets)
(awarded Odin 1 point for guessing correctly)
(awarded Patzer 4 points for motion passing)
(awarded Fiery 40 points for winning the lottery)
(charged Odin 8 points for investment)
(awarded 2 points to Fiery for State of the Nomic post)

Honor: 5 points
Fiery
Odin
Carey
Froggy
Chia
Spikey

Investments:
12 Carey
10 Fiery
6 Snarky
6 Alex
6 Spikey
6 Odin
4 Patzer

The State of the Nomic
Rules
All Motions

Players:

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Chess Game:

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Current Wagers:

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Tournaments:

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Open Trades:

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Active motions:

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by **careyhammer** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:18 pm UTC

I cast my vote in favor of Odin's motion to get the chess game moving. Now 2 for, 0 against.

by **patzer** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:29 pm UTC

I cast my vote in favour of Odin's motion to get the chess game moving. Now 3 for, 0 against.
I cast my vote in favour of Spikey's motion to make it easier to just play a little Nomic at a time. Now 4 for, 1 against, 2 abstain. Motion passes, Spikey awarded 8 points
I cast my vote in favour of Null's motion to clarify incorrect voting rules. Now 4 for, 0 against. Motion passes, null awarded 4 points
I cast my vote in favour of Fiery's motion to introduce more perks. Now 4 for, 0 against. Motion passes, Fiery awarded 8 points

Edit: Fiery you forgot to add on the points for investments in your SotN.

by **aleph-null** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:40 pm UTC

I cast my vote in favour of Odin's motion to get the chess game moving. Now 4 for, 0 against. Odin is awarded 8 points

by **orangedragonfire** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:59 pm UTC

(awarded Spikey 8 points for motion passing)
(awarded null 4 points for motion passing)
(awarded Fiery 8 points for motion passing)
(awarded Odin 8 points for motion passing)
(awarded Fiery 2 points for State of the Nomic Post)

The State of the Nomic
Rules
All Motions

Players:

Spoiler:

Chess Game:

Spoiler:

Current Wagers:

Spoiler:

Tournaments:

Spoiler:

Open Trades:

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Active motions:

Spoiler:

by **patzer** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:27 pm UTC

I buy: Investment for 8 points

by **Odilo** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:54 am UTC

Fiery, am I supposed to be poisoning a drink? I wasn't sure if my duel with Carey had started yet or if we were supposed to wait for you to say something in a post.

I make a motion to create a new honourable title, Duelist. The duelist is allowed to be in a maximum of 5 duels, but will lose the title if they refuse a duel.
Players may challenge the Duelist to a normal duel, or they may challenge him/her to a duel for the title. This is done by the challenger saying, "I challenge [name] to a duel by [method] for the title of Duelist". If the challenger wins, neither player wins or loses points, but the challenger gains the title Duelist (and the challenged loses it). However, if the challenger loses, points gained and lost are doubled.
If no one holds the title Duelist, the title may be claimed by the first person to win a duel and say, "I claim the title of Duelist" within 24 hours of their victory.
The starting Duelist will be Odin.
For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as Odin's motion to introduce the title Duelist.

I guess Carey will post next.

by **Carlington** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:52 am UTC

I cast my vote in favour of Odin's motion to introduce the title Duelist. (Now 1 for, 0 against).
Buy: 4 investments for 16 points.
Also, does this mean I automatically progress to the next round of the tournament?

by **orangedragonfire** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:00 pm UTC

I cast my vote in favor of Odin's motion to introduce the title Duelist.

Carlington (The Aussie) wrote:Buy: 4 investments for 16 points.

The fourth invesment alone costs 16 points; you'd have to buy investments 1, 2 and 3 first. (which cost 2, 4 and 8 points)

I make a motion to allow Double Motions. Making the same motion in both Nomy 1.0 and Nomic 16.0 within 10 minutes of each other shall be referred to as making a Double Motion. The "For the purposes of voting..." part of the motion need not be present in Nomy for the motion to be counted as a Double Motion. If the Double Motion gets accepted in both games, the rewards for acceptance shall be tripled.
For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as Fiery's motion to allow Double Motions.

by **aleph-null** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:11 pm UTC

orangedragonfire wrote:I cast my vote in favor of Odin's motion to introduce the title Duelist.

You didn't give the current vote count after voting there, which breaks Rule §03.01, though I don't believe there is a penalty associated with that.

I cast my vote in favor of Odin's motion to introduce the title Duelist. (Now 3 for, 0 against)
I cast my vote in favor of Fiery's motion to allow Double Motions (Now 1 for, 0 against)

by **orangedragonfire** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:18 pm UTC

aleph-null wrote:You didn't give the current vote count after voting there, which breaks Rule §03.01, though I don't believe there is a penalty associated with that.

There is one. Rule §05.01 says that you get a 2 point penalty for breaking any rule. (since I have honor, this is doubled to 4 points as per rule §04.05)

by **Carlington** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:25 pm UTC

orangedragonfire wrote:
Carlington (The Aussie) wrote:Buy: 4 investments for 16 points.

The fourth invesment alone costs 16 points; you'd have to buy investments 1, 2 and 3 first. (which cost 2, 4 and 8 points)

In that case, Buy: 3 investments for 14 points.

by **careyhammer** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:45 pm UTC

So what kinds of things do you guys like to bet on? xkcd comics? Duels? Motions passing or failing? winner of the chess game? Sports? elections? The next poster? Anything else? I am taking any and all reasonable wagers about anything.

Also, I lost that wager to Fiery.

by **aleph-null** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:41 pm UTC

Buy: Investment 1 for 2 points

I think before we accept wagers on in-game events like motions we should make sure that player's can't bet 'dishonestly' to their gain.

I make a motion to restrict players betting on and issuing wagers on some events, particularly events which they can affect in their favour. This includes but is not limited to betting on a motion which they have previously voted positively on, or voting positively on a motion on which they have previously placed a bet. Furthermore, betting on duels, by the duellers or the judge, once the duel has started, is not permitted. The Arbiter has final say on whether a wager is valid under this rule.
For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to Null's motion to restrict improper gambling.

by **careyhammer** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:42 pm UTC

You there, Froggy? You need to judge my tournament duel.

by **Odilo** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:07 am UTC

I cast my vote in favour of Null's motion to restrict improper gambling. (Now 1 for, 0 against)

I wager 10 points against 10 points that Monday's xkcd comic (April 9, 2012) will be Easter-related. This wager's name will be Odin's Wager #1.

by **careyhammer** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:07 am UTC

I accept that wager # 1

by **orangedragonfire** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:28 am UTC

I cast my vote against Null's motion to restrict improper gambling. (now 1 for, 1 against) because, let's face it, cheating is what makes bets fun =D

I wager 5 points against 6 points that no new player will join Nomic 16.0 within 48 from the time that this wager is accepted. This wager's name will be Fiery's Wager #1.

If I loose, at least we'll have a new player. ^^

The duel between Odin and Carey starts now.

by **Odilo** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:11 pm UTC

Buy: Lottery ticket #50 for 5 points.

I guess that Fiery will post next.

by **orangedragonfire** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:14 pm UTC

You are correct.

--

Carey, you may choose your drink.

by **Odilo** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:11 pm UTC

No one wants to buy a ticket? This is going to be a pretty lame lottery if all I win are my points back.

by **careyhammer** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:10 am UTC

I cast my vote against Null's motion to restrict improper gambling. (now 1 for, 2 against)
I cast my vote in favor of Odin's motion to introduce the title Duelist. (Now 4 for, 0 against) Odin awarded 8 points.
I accept Fiery's Wager #1

-Let me put it this way: have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
-Yes.
-Morons.
-Really! In that case, I challenge you to a battle of wits.
-For the princess? To the death? I accept!
-Good, then pour the wine...Inhale this, but do not touch.
-I smell nothing
-What you do not smell is iocane powder. It is odorless, tasteless, dissolves instantly in liquid and is among the most deadly poisons known to man.
-Hmm
-All riight: where is the poison? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink and who is right and who is dead.
-But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine it from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own cup or his enemies. Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet because he would know that only a great fool would reach or what he is given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known that I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
-You've made your decision then?
-Not remotely! Because Iocane comes from Australia. As everyone knows, Australia is entirely peopled with criminals. And criminals are used to having people not trust them as you are not trusted by me. So I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you.
-Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
-Wait 'til I get going! Where was I?
-Australia.
-And you must have suspected that I would have known the poison's origin, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me!
-You're just stalling now.
-You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've beaten my giant, which means that you're exceptionally strong...so you could have put the poison in your own cup, depending on your strength to save you, so clearly I cannot choose the wine in front of you. But you've also bested my Spaniard, which means you must have studied and in studying you must have learned that man is mortal, so you wouldhave put the poison as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
-You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work.
-It has worked! You've given everything away! I know where the poison is!
-The make your choice.
-I will and I choose...What in the world can that be?

I choose the cup in front of me aka drink 1

by **aleph-null** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:24 am UTC

I hereby retract Null's motion to restrict improper gambling.

by **orangedragonfire** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:04 pm UTC

Drink #2 was poisoned. Carey wins the duel.

I offer to trade 10 points for an Extra Vote Perk.
I offer to trade 15 points for the title of Duelist.

Since Odin was the only one who bought a ticket, he wins the lottery (I'm not even bothering to check the number of the day)

(charged Patzer 8 points for investment)
(penalized Fiery 3 points for not giving a vote count)
(charged Chia 14 points for 3 investments)
(+1 point to Fiery and -1 to Carey due to wager)
(charged null 2 points for investment)
(charged Odin 5 points for lottery ticket)
(awarded Odin 5 points for winning the lottery)
(awarded Odin 1 point for guessing correctly)
(awarded Odin 8 points for motion passing)
(+3 to Carey and -2 to Odin for duel)
(awarded Fiery 2 points for State of the Nomic Post)

The State of the Nomic
Rules
All Motions

Players:

Spoiler:

Chess Game:

Spoiler:

Current Wagers:

Spoiler:

Tournaments:

Spoiler:

Open Trades:

Spoiler:

Active motions:

Spoiler:

by **Odilo** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:53 pm UTC

Fiery, Carey accepted my wager #1. Or does it not count because it wasn't in bold?

I abstain from voting of Fiery's motion to allow Double Motions. (Now 1 for, 0 against, 1 abstain)

I challenge Carey to a duel by Midnight Thread Necromancy.
I challenge Fiery to a duel by Pistols at High Noon.
I challenge Null to a duel by Sabres at Dawn to first blood.

I guess that Carey will post next.

by **orangedragonfire** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:43 pm UTC

I'm actually not sure whether I'm currently in a duel or not. Could someone please make an account of all active duels? The 2 points reward I offered for that still stands.

And yes, Carey didn't accept your bet according to the rules because he didn't write it in bold.

White: 13. dxe5
Board

by **patzer** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:03 pm UTC

I cast my vote in favour of Fiery's motion to allow Double Motions. (Now 2 for, 0 against, 1 abstain)
Black: 13... Nxd1
http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?m=e4_e5_d3_Nf6_Nc3_Bb4_a3_Bxc3*_bxc3_c5_Nf3_Nc6_Bg5_h6_Be3_Qa5_Bd2_O-O_d4_d6_Bc4_Nxe4_O-O_Nxc3_dxe5_Nxd1--Board (doesn't let me link it.)

by **careyhammer** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:35 pm UTC

I cast my vote in favour of Fiery's motion to allow Double Motions. (Now 3 for, 0 against, 1 abstain)

by **careyhammer** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:37 pm UTC

I accept Odin's wager #1.

by **orangedragonfire** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:43 pm UTC

White: 14. Bxa5

Board

by **patzer** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:09 pm UTC

Black:14...Nxa5
EDIT: Board--http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?m=e4_e5_d3_Nf6_Nc3_Bb4_a3_Bxc3*_bxc3_c5_Nf3_Nc6_Bg5_h6_Be3_Qa5_Bd2_O-O_d4_d6_Bc4_Nxe4_O-O_Nxc3_dxe5_Nxd1_Bxa5_Nxa5

by **orangedragonfire** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:58 pm UTC

White: 15. Bd5

Board

by **careyhammer** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:17 pm UTC

Black:Nc3

by **careyhammer** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:18 pm UTC

http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.p ... d5_Nc3&f=1

by **Odilo** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:45 pm UTC

Is it possible to accept a wager after the deadline has been passed? Because my wager was that Monday's comic would be Easter-related, and Carey accepted it on Monday.

I just went through all the posts since dueling started, and it looks like all the duels except for the tournament and the ones I just started have finished.

I guess that Fiery will post next.

by **orangedragonfire** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:24 pm UTC

Fine, then. I accept Odin's challenge, and request Null to be judge.

Charity: Give 2 point to Odin.

by **careyhammer** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:54 am UTC

If you did not want the wager anymore you should have withdrawn it. Sorry. :cry:

by **Odilo** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:42 am UTC

careyhammer wrote:If you did not want the wager anymore you should have withdrawn it. Sorry.

Aww... I'm sad now. You accepted it before I woke up today, so I didn't have a chance to withdraw it.

I wager 5 points against 5 points that tomorrow's winning lottery number (April 11, 2012) will be over 50.

I make a motion to add a new rule to bets and wagers. If the wager is not accepted before the deadline, it is automatically cancelled. For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as Odin's motion to prevent people from accepting wagers when they know the outcome.

by **careyhammer** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:34 am UTC

I cast my vote against Odin's motion to prevent people from accepting wagers when they know the outcome. Now 0 for, 1 against.

I accept Odin's wager.

by **cjquines** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:56 am UTC

I pick the nickname cjq.

I cast my vote against Odin's motion to prevent people from accepting wagers when they know the outcome. Now 0 for, 2 against.

I make a motion that all new players shall start with 3 points, instead of 0, for the purposes of wagers, and the reduction of negative values in the game. This motion shall also encourage wagers, and help new players start in the game match faster. For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as cjq's motion to give new players 3 points.

I wager 0 points against 0 points that nobody will vote against cjq's motion to give new players 3 points by the time the person accepts this wager.

I guess that Fiery will post next.

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