[T] PYPokémafia - Game ended - SK (Lataro) Wins!

[Deva]

Check the spoilers, when able.

[t1mm01994]

Official Votals:
5 – Gojoe (Mostlynormal, Deva, fearless, Woopate, Lataro)

Gojoe has been lynched. It technically has been night for 20 hours now... Ah well. Be soon to send in night actions, please.

[t1mm01994]

Rumours spread on who the voice was, but everyone seemed even more divided about who it was. While discussing this, suddenly someone shouted: "We should lynch Gojoe!" After a small period of conversation, everyone agreed. Gojoe tried to fly away, but after a while dropped down as if he was hit by some invisible power.
Gojoe is now dead. He was Zubat, one of the Abandoned Pokémon.
Everyone gathered around his body, and they saw a note attached to his left wing; all it said was "Cave 2nd floor"... But it was already getting dark, so the pokémans decided to discuss it in the morning.
In the nighttime, many frustration was to be heard in the hallways;

"How could he just get himself get caught like that?"


"Oh Arceus, when is the time I can finally do something"

"Arceus, stop torturing me with bad luck, as it is currently the ownly thing inhibiting my intelligence"

The sun didn't show itself this day, clouds were too thick, the rain was too heavy.. But even in the light of Arcanine's firey breath, they could easily see that someone was missing; Deva. He was found lying in the rain, struck by a mysterious power that had not only left frostbite, but burn marks as well...
Deva is now dead. He was Jolteon, on Ash's side.

On that bombshell, N4 has ended. D5 will last for 55 hours.

[Woopate]

Rumours spread on who the voice was, but everyone seemed even more divided about who it was. While discussing this, suddenly someone shouted: "We should lynch Gojoe!" After a small period of conversation, everyone agreed. Gojoe tried to fly away, but after a while dropped down as if he was hit by some invisible power.
Gojoe is now dead. He was Zubat, one of the Abandoned Pokémon.
Everyone gathered around his body, and they saw a note attached to his left wing; all it said was "Cave 2nd floor"... But it was already getting dark, so the pokémans decided to discuss it in the morning.
In the nighttime, many frustration was to be heard in the hallways;

"How could he just get himself get caught like that?"


"Oh Arceus, when is the time I can finally do something"

"Arceus, stop torturing me with bad luck, as it is currently the ownly thing inhibiting my intelligence"

The sun didn't show itself this day, clouds were too thick, the rain was too heavy.. But even in the light of Arcanine's firey breath, they could easily see that someone was missing; Deva. He was found lying in the rain, struck by a mysterious power that had not only left frostbite, but burn marks as well...
Deva is now dead. He was Jolteon, on Ash's side.

On that bombshell, N4 has ended. D5 will last for 55 hours.

Huh. Well isn't THAT interesting. Looks like we finally hit paydirt. And someone lost a nk. Buys us time.

[matt96]

"Arceus, stop torturing me with bad luck, as it is currently the only thing inhibiting my intelligence"

I think it might be useful to look for things in the flavor, as yet again, the person I recruited got night killed, and even with my IQ of over 5000, I was helpless to do anything about it, so the things said in the flavor probably each correspond to someone, and that might be usefull.

So, anyone want to claim the how could he get caught line from the flavor?

About the single night kill; Personally, I believe that Deva got hit with both of them, not that we eliminated one from the game, leaving only Lataro's. What I am planning to do now is go back through the thread, and see who might have been always agreeing with Gojoe, and those who might have been distancing themselves from him, and if I am not too lazy, I will make and post a chart of everyone's "relationship" with Gojoe, possibly also separated by which day the actions and agreements or disagreements happened on.

[Woopate]

I agree with assessing the flavour in more detail. I remember Jolteon showing up in previous flavour. I thought the mod mighta been choosing flavour Namedrops based on pokèmon that WEREN'T in the game. I now kinda think the opposite it true. I'll comPile flavour to date when I get home in 40 mins. Doing that by phone sucks.

[Woopate]

Spoiler:

Every day was business as usual, in the quiet Pallet Town, where Ash xKcdetchum resided, along with his many Pokémon. Some were large, some were small, some were short, some were tall; all were Pokémon, and they all lived together in harmony, with the loving care of Ash...

Until this day. Suddenly, when Psyduck got downstairs, he noticed something was different. The front door was still open. The table didn't stand where it used to stand.. And most importantly, Ash was gone. In his loudest voice, Psyduck cried out to his fellow Pokémon. Many Pokémon rushed down to the living room to see what had happened, but some stayed on their rooms rather reluctantly. The ones that were downstairs figured this must have been done from the inside, as there were no signs of forced entry. They decided to solve this stuff the way Pokémon always battle stuff out: through majority vote lynches.


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This was the moment he had been waiting for.. After all this time, finally, he could peacefully die. With a last "Geo... Geodude"* he walked up to greenlover, embraced him with his rocky arms, and blew himself to pieces.
ChickenFish is dead and has won. He was Geodude, a jesterbomb. Congratulations!
greenlover is now dead. He was Ditto, not aligned.

After that, everyone tried to sleep, shocked about what just happened.. No-one could really sleep, and as such there was a lot of activity in Pallet town. But even then, shock after shock kept happening.
First off, there was this huge, vast Pokémon lying in the middle of everything, eating a couple of grapefruits, with a terrified gaze on his face, dead. No-one knows what might have happened.. But you're quite sure you didn't want to be him.
Upon closer inspection, he wasn't the only pokémon dead.. There was a much smaller Pokémon, lying behind him, looking as if he had been annoyed to death!
No sign of vicious killers to be seen...



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Cries came out from Angua: Watch out for Lataro! He'll kill all of you! Not everyone agreed, but quite rapidly, the majority decided he had to die, and he was killed, and left in a dark alleyway.
Comforted that at least one killer is taken care of, everyone peacefully went to sleep, in their own beds... Or so it seemed. When Jolteon looked out to the stars, pondering about what to do the next day, in a flash it saw something small fly over a mountain.. But it never got the chance to identify it.
Unnerved by this, it moved out of bed, and started wandering around. The first surprise came in Misnomer's room: he looked like he was sleeping, but he really wasn't.. He was killed, almost like someone sucked the life out of him.. But the surprise became even bigger when in that same room, roband lay dead!
In horror, Jolteon cried out, and everyone joined around him.. No one knew what happened to roband, or to Misnomer. They went on to discuss what to do this night when they suddenly they heard a dark voice behind them:
"Missing someone?


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As confusion reigned in Pallet Town, no one really seemed to care about Ash anymore.. All anyone cared about was whiping out whoever was killing them, with no interest in where Ash went in the first place. Unsure of who to lynch, the majority decided ConMan had to die, and they took him out with a swift bolt of electricity.

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Confusion reigned in Pallet town, but Lataro was the only one that really got struck by it.. He hit himself fatally in his confusion, which made sure he died a nightly death. Determined to dispose of him this time, you buried him in the back yard.
He wasn't the only one to bury though. There was ConMan, the majestic Gyarados, that had been slain by electrocuting. He got a captain's burial, and got thrown into the sea below Pallet Town.
The night was awfully calm compared to earlier nights, and everyone lay awake, suddenly remembering that Ash was gone, and wondering where he was..
At that point, a high-pitched voice appeared from the sky, saying the following:

"To those of you loyal to Ash, if you ever want to see him again, now is the time for action.. Seeing how you haven't got a single clue at where he is yet, things may come to an end soon.

Oh, and you might want to take a look at Chandani, she's not really doing well."
Everyone rushed out of bed, some out of curiosity, some appearingly just to blend in, to see Chandani, lying dead in her bed, with tiny bitewounds all over.
When everyone gathered again in the town square, from the back came the voice they had heard before:
"Guys, what did I miss? I believe I zoned out for the night.. But don't worry, I'm back!"

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Rumours spread on who the voice was, but everyone seemed even more divided about who it was. While discussing this, suddenly someone shouted: "We should lynch Gojoe!" After a small period of conversation, everyone agreed. Gojoe tried to fly away, but after a while dropped down as if he was hit by some invisible power.
Gojoe is now dead. He was Zubat, one of the Abandoned Pokémon.
Everyone gathered around his body, and they saw a note attached to his left wing; all it said was "Cave 2nd floor"... But it was already getting dark, so the pokémans decided to discuss it in the morning.
In the nighttime, many frustration was to be heard in the hallways;

"How could he just get himself get caught like that?"


"Oh Arceus, when is the time I can finally do something"

"Arceus, stop torturing me with bad luck, as it is currently the ownly thing inhibiting my intelligence"

The sun didn't show itself this day, clouds were too thick, the rain was too heavy.. But even in the light of Arcanine's firey breath, they could easily see that someone was missing; Deva. He was found lying in the rain, struck by a mysterious power that had not only left frostbite, but burn marks as well...
[b]Deva is now dead. He was Jolteon, on Ash's side.

Mystery voices:

"Missing someone?"

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"To those of you loyal to Ash, if you ever want to see him again, now is the time for action.. Seeing how you haven't got a single clue at where he is yet, things may come to an end soon.
Oh, and you might want to take a look at Chandani, she's not really doing well."
"Guys, what did I miss? I believe I zoned out for the night.. But don't worry, I'm back!"

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"How could he just get himself get caught like that?"
"Oh Arceus, when is the time I can finally do something"
"Arceus, stop torturing me with bad luck, as it is currently the ownly thing inhibiting my intelligence"

Pokèmon mentioned before death:
Psyduck - Roband
Jolteon - Deva
Arcanine - ???

Mystery note:
"Cave 2nd floor"

The mystery note is probably talking about Cerulean Cave, Mewtwo lives on the second floor. Maybe that's where Ash is.

Both Psyduck and Jolteon were players. Good chance Arcanine is too.
Arcanine spec:
-Arcanine is Gary's Pokèmon. Rival to Ash
-Arcanine appeared in the episode "Fire and Ice". Deva died with both frostburn and scorches.
-One of the faster pokes.
-Fire type.
-Is called a "Legendary" (in China, no seriously) pokèmon, despite not possessing the prerequisite unique nature.

About the single night kill; Personally, I believe that Deva got hit with both of them, not that we eliminated one from the game, leaving only Lataro's

As a clarification, by "lost" I meant last night only. I do not believe that we will be down to 1 nk per night from now on. Someone is now 1 kill behind schedule. Which is good.

[Mostlynormal]

Ok, first off I'm sorry Deva for being so stubborn. I was going to post something backing off but the the day ended. Yeah, I guess someone would have claimed by then. It's just you were on my scum list and I didn't want to beleive you were town.

Speaking of which, all my major suspicions are now dead. I think there's a good chance that Woopate might be scum. His posts have been rather sparse and even his posts today are mostly flavorspec.

I'll post in more detail later.

[Angua]

Mostlynormal - are you soft claiming cop? Does anyone know how likely it is that the miller would also be a cop?

Anyway, back to opening flavour spec - 'one of the abandoned pokemon' means that we've hit a team of some sort - someone ironic that it happens the night after deva said we probably didn't have a cult because we hadn't seen them yet. With the number of indies around, it means that the team is probably quite small - either 2 or 3 players, so that should leave us with 1 or 2 left now.

That's all for now - Easter is turning out to be busier than expect.

[Mostlynormal]

No, I'm not softclaiming cop. After thinking about who that is left could be scum, Woopate sorta jumped out to me. When I have time I'll do an actual analysis.

[Angua]

I thought you were apologising to deva about not defending them because you were the cop so could corroborate their story.

[Angua]

Rereading the opening flavour for today - we must have at least 2 abandoned pokemon left, because they're talking to each other.

[t1mm01994]

Due to extreme lack of activity, I'm pushing deadline back 24 hours. That's all the extension you get so GET MOVING

[Mostlynormal]

I'm going to go ahead and

Vote: Woopate

Many of their posts have been unusually long without much real content. The only people left for me to suspect are Angua, fearless and Woopate. Fearless has posted a lot of short, chatty posts but she seems to do that in most games and at least she's not dressing it up as content. Angua was out of suspicion for awhile after the one shot cop but if the "benefactor" doesn't turn up soon I'll start beleiving that either there is none (and she is scum by elimination) or that she herself is Lataro's benefactor, an idea that would make a lot of sense considering the benefactor might know who he is and claim in order to to buy a no lynch while keeping suspicion off of herself.

[fearless]

I just want to say that I've been a bad player and I'm sorry I don't even know if this is the right time but I think we're pretty much at the end so rather spill it than leave it.

I'm the cop. Infirna investigated boomfrog N1 (innocent) but he turned up dead. I investigated Angua on N2 (I really don't know why). I think it might be because I didn't read the thread thoroughly enough and she came across as scummy - it really was quite random. Anyways she came up innocent too. N3, I investigated matt (came up innocent) - and that's why I kept pushing Deva to tell me who *he* targeted. Anyways, bascially I've been pretty much useless because neither N2 or N3's investigations can be relied on. N4, I went for matt again and didn't get a result. So Ive probably been roleblocked. Sorry -_-

[Mostlynormal]

I can confirm that fearless speaks the truth. I am an RB Immune Watcher and Miller. I saw her visit Deva (he absorbed Angua) N2 so I knew she was the cop. I was actually on the verge of claiming it last post. I also watched her visit matt last night, not that I needed more evidence.

So yeah, at least I don't have to give some weak justification for not lynching fearless now. She is as good as confirmed town in my eyes. By process of elimination, Woopate and Angua are the only possible scum. It's pretty likely that they both are, but I think Woopate is the one who's almost certainly scum. So now you know the real reason for my vote.

[fearless]

ok, cool. I'll go with that because he seemed to know what's going on more than me.
vote woodpate

[Lataro]

Vote: woopate

This lynch does not conflict with my interests.

[Woopate]

Vote: woopate

This lynch does not conflict with my interests.

Because I'm the one who blocked him. My block has a condition so it took me a few nights to figure it out. I need to know the pokes type. Seriously. And I can continue to block Lataro. Brass tax here, you can't afford to lynch me. You lynch me tonight, Lataro gets his kill back. He kills one, the Abandoned pokèmon kill one, that leaves one mafia and the sk alive and two town. A CONFIRMED TOWN LOSS. DO NOT KILL ME OR YOU WILL LOSE

A much much much safer vote is on MostlyNormal. Who is Lataro's benefactor.

Vote:MostlyNormal

[Woopate]

EBWOP: Also, about the contentless posto, I don't really have a meta yet, but if you search me up. It's my M.O. Seriously, my contributions to this forum are all light and flakey like a delicious pastry.

[fearless]

why do you say he's the benefactor? I'm so confused

[Woopate]

I'm going to go ahead and

Vote: Woopate

Many of their posts have been unusually long without much real content. The only people left for me to suspect are Angua, fearless and Woopate. Fearless has posted a lot of short, chatty posts but she seems to do that in most games and at least she's not dressing it up as content. Angua was out of suspicion for awhile after the one shot cop but if the "benefactor" doesn't turn up soon I'll start beleiving that either there is none (and she is scum by elimination) or that she herself is Lataro's benefactor, an idea that would make a lot of sense considering the benefactor might know who he is and claim in order to to buy a no lynch while keeping suspicion off of herself.

If you read this, by MN's own admission there are few candidates for benefactor. And he keeps bringing it up. And we haven't seen the benefactor yet. Also, RB immune watcher/miller sounds like an indy role to me. If you look at his spec, ALL of it seems to exclude the possibility of him being anything. It doesn't make sense for there to a be "null" faction, which means he wants to hide something. Mostlynormal will win when Lataro does.

[fearless]

fine fine
unvote

[Mostlynormal]

Me? I'm town. I thought the assumption that I was town was an obvious part of that post.

It seems we're dangerously close to a Zombie Apocalypse-esque scenario right now. In order to win at this point, we need at least one or preferably both of the anti-town factions to kill each other. This means that no townie who doesn't have reason to be certain (fearless and matt, basically) should overcommit to a decision on whether I'm scum or not. The only way to win is to make scum beleive it's in their best interest to not kill town, which is only possible if they beleive they can lynch me tommorrow (and remember scum, they can't necessarily beleive me, so you really do have a chance) Also, Woopate, though his reaction is obvi-scum, especially from my perspective, may be telling the truth about that roleblock. We might get better results if we lynch Angua.

Unvote

Vote: Angua

[Angua]

So, mostly normal is:
1) miller
2) roleblock immune
3) watcher/tracker

Not really buying it....
Also, if fearless was roleblocked last night, it either means that matt is uncoppable, or someone else did it. I believe woopate's claim that htey roleblocked lataro, which leaves us with mostly normal as well. They could be lying about the rb immune and watcher/tracker (as all they're doing is confirming what fearless has told us).

vote: mostlynormal

[Woopate]

Me? I'm town. I thought the assumption that I was town was an obvious part of that post.

It seems we're dangerously close to a Zombie Apocalypse-esque scenario right now. In order to win at this point, we need at least one or preferably both of the anti-town factions to kill each other. This means that no townie who doesn't have reason to be certain (fearless and matt, basically) should overcommit to a decision on whether I'm scum or not. The only way to win is to make scum beleive it's in their best interest to not kill town, which is only possible if they beleive they can lynch me tommorrow (and remember scum, they can't necessarily beleive me, so you really do have a chance) Also, Woopate, though his reaction is obvi-scum, especially from my perspective, may be telling the truth about that roleblock. We might get better results if we lynch Angua.

Unvote

Vote: Angua

Back down, redirect, duck and cover. Evidence to me.

[Mostlynormal]

Me? I'm town. I thought the assumption that I was town was an obvious part of that post.

It seems we're dangerously close to a Zombie Apocalypse-esque scenario right now. In order to win at this point, we need at least one or preferably both of the anti-town factions to kill each other. This means that no townie who doesn't have reason to be certain (fearless and matt, basically) should overcommit to a decision on whether I'm scum or not. The only way to win is to make scum beleive it's in their best interest to not kill town, which is only possible if they beleive they can lynch me tommorrow (and remember scum, they can't necessarily beleive me, so you really do have a chance) Also, Woopate, though his reaction is obvi-scum, especially from my perspective, may be telling the truth about that roleblock. We might get better results if we lynch Angua.

Unvote

Vote: Angua

Back down, redirect, duck and cover. Evidence to me.

Not backing down. I fully beleive you are scum. I also beleive that if there's any chance your ability claim is true, it'd be in town's better interest to lynch Angua first.

Also, you apparently know Lataro's type now. Do you plan on sharing that anytime soon?

[Woopate]

He's rock.

[Angua]

Also, mostlynormal said that they were suspicious of fearless, but after fearless claimed cop, they suddenly said they've been watching them all along (sorry, I'm a bit tired at the moment, it's taking rereads to get my head round things).

[matt96]

He's rock.

that supports what had been Deva's idea that Lataro is one of the fossil pokemon, which would also fit with the scientist benefactor thing Lataro claimed as it was the scientists that brought the fossil pokemon back to life (at least in the pokemon games I played)

[Mostlynormal]

Also, mostlynormal said that they were suspicious of fearless, but after fearless claimed cop, they suddenly said they've been watching them all along (sorry, I'm a bit tired at the moment, it's taking rereads to get my head round things).

When exactly did I say that? If you're talking about my post right before fearless, of course I had to address her short posts so as not to look like her scumbuddy for ignoring the same problem in her that I saw in Woopate. However, I tried to put as good a spin on it as possible. In fact, I think the biggest evidence that I already knew she was a cop is that I didn't immediately go off and vote her instead of Woopate.

[Angua]

You put suspicion on her so you don't look like her scum buddy? Her short posts have also been explained by the fact that she replaced in and felt out of depth, as well as the fact that she's new. If you'd just not mentioned her, I would have taken that as possibly a hint that you knew something we didn't. There are different arguments against her versus woopate, so really, I still don't buy that.

[Mostlynormal]

From my perspective, not mentioning her would've looked like a double standard. I don't really beleive anything you're saying about how you'd react. If was to say "Well, the only two possibilities left are Woopate and Angua," you'd know something was up, and I wouldn't have been able to explain my knowledge without lying or outing a cop against her will. You have to admit that I was straining the limits of plausibility with my argument that Woopate was a better target.

[matt96]

I think it might be best to no lynch today, as if woopate really is a role blocker, and stops Lataro's kill, that puts us at 2-2-1, which is like Zombie appocolypse was, but with unconfirmed scum (Lataro could hit scum instead of town, and won't know who he needs to kill to have a chance of winning if we lynch someone who might be scum tommorow, and then there are a bunch of powers, that might give Town a chance to possibly win) personally, if Lataro was not role blocked, I think I probably would have died last night, and just have been happy to have survived this long (significantly better than the 2 other new players for this game, but one of them doesn't count for the survival thing, as they were a highly successful jester bomb, and I am just confused about what is going on right now) I'll probably have a vote down in about 6 1/2 hours when I wake up, so I just hope I guess correctly then.

[Lataro]

Personally, I have no care one way or the other. I withheld my kill last night so as to avoid too many deaths, the same would be in my interest tonight anyway.

Hey town, does having a townie whose role block immune, and having a role blocker who isn't scum make sense? Engage the brain, either way, I've no interest in using my kill here, have fun with it.

[matt96]

Me? I'm town. I thought the assumption that I was town was an obvious part of that post.

It seems we're dangerously close to a Zombie Apocalypse-esque scenario right now. In order to win at this point, we need at least one or preferably both of the anti-town factions to kill each other. This means that no townie who doesn't have reason to be certain (fearless and matt, basically) should overcommit to a decision on whether I'm scum or not. The only way to win is to make scum beleive it's in their best interest to not kill town, which is only possible if they beleive they can lynch me tommorrow (and remember scum, they can't necessarily beleive me, so you really do have a chance) Also, Woopate, though his reaction is obvi-scum, especially from my perspective, may be telling the truth about that roleblock. We might get better results if we lynch Angua.

Unvote

Vote: Angua

Well, based on what you said needs to happen for town to win, that should happen, as I am prettymuch ok with lynching you, Angua, or woopate, of which 2 are scum, I'll make my final guess tomorrow morning, and then hope for the best.

[matt96]

I think that the 3 main lynch candidates (mostlynormal, woopate, and Angua) should probably claim now, as if they are town, it will only help other town make a better informed decision about who to vote, and the only thing I see that is meant to punish claiming is woopate's claimed role block, and I think Woopate might not have actually targeted Lataro, but may have been scum and targeted Fearless, stopping the cop result, which mostlynormal claims to have seen happen, but then there are Angua's posts, I still haven't ruled out Angua playing really well as scum yet, but the most important piece of evidence I see to the contrary of Angua being scum is calling my idea not that bad (not exact quote) on day one, assuming Angua to be scum, Angua doesn't know I am recruiting mason, doesn't expect me to survive to this crucial point of the game, and has no scummy incentive to point out my idea wasn't horrible, however, there is still the place where gojoe(now known to have been scum) calls Chickenfish suspicious for voting Angua, which might have been Gojoe protecting a scum-buddy, or just trying to make sure that if he went down, a town player would be subsequently found scummy and lynched, I certainly am too tired now to think about it, but then again, if the claims of roleblocker and roleblock-immune are true, and as Lataro suggests, are not both scum, then Angua is scum by default unless Deva was wrong in our PM exchange where Deva mentioned having pegged fearless as cop, and fearless is scum false claiming cop, but now my head just hurts, and it isn't simply sleep deprivation, or dehydration, and I forget where I was going with this post.




I hope 4 hours 45 minutes is enough sleep for me to formulate a good opinion on who to lynch.

[fearless]

Eh sorry tim actually forgot to send me the PM. He sent it last night, and matt is town so I wasn't role blocked.

[Mostlynormal]

I'm not going to say anymore for my case. I want it to be as ambiguous for scum as possible. You make your decision. Think hard: there's a lot of things I've left unsaid on purpose. Good luck with your decision tommorrow. Also, if you really can't be convinced to vote Angua and want to vote Woopate instead, I'll switch my vote if it at least means a scum lynch today.

We can still win this, town! Once again, good luck.

Ninja'd: I will not be claiming. My pokemon gives you no new information and a falseclaim would be ridiculously easy for scum anyway. We don't know whether we know the full extent of anti-claim mechanics yet, and claiming does not really help us at all.

[Angua]

Woopate using their power on Lataro makes sense - in one of the previous days he said that he had a feeling lataro wasn't mewtwo (a psychic type).

I think mostlynormal is roleblockimmune, but I think they're lataro's benefactor. I can be convinced to no lynch if necessary, but I still think mostly normal is a threat.