Werewolf - Game Over: The Dark Lord Rises

[ahammel]

NINJA'D: Still can't unvote due to 3-way tie on 4 votes if I do, and still the likeliness of Krong coming in and 1-upping me. One more vote on Adam and I'll unvote Snark and leave him for the beasts.

There are currently four votes on Adam. Did you count matt96's?

Unofficial votals:
Snark (5): ForAllOfThis, wam, Webby, fearless, t1mm01994
Adam H (4): Angua, BoomFrog, matt96, ahammel
t1mm01994 (4): Adam H, JesseScottOwen, Snark, CaptainFinglass
Lataro (1): Krong
BoomFrog (1): Lataro

[Angua]

Yeah - tim if you vote now, you should be safe, lynchwise. Also, it would decrease a vote for snark, meaning that Krong is unlikely to manage to change votes.

[Angua]

ebwop - by krong changing votes, I meant changing the vote count to lynch you.

sorry

[t1mm01994]

Great!
Unvote
Vote: Adam H
In that case, I'll be killed by werewolves, and krong/Snark by some other faction.
By the way, I think there are only 2 killing facitons; vamps and wolves. DBC's flavour doesn't sound like he was night killed, it sounds like he killed himself for whichever reason. Wolves won't kill snark.. Ah well. We'll see.

[Lataro]

unvote
vote adam h

Strictly to help prevent a tie if someone comes in a votes for another player.

[Adam H]

I am absolutely astounded.

It's a fact that you have changed arguments a lot.

Never once!!! I just posted some arguments that I think are more neutral, like vote-hopping or whatever, AS YOU REQUESTED.

It's a fact that in one of your more recent posts you've admitted to that comment being the only reason your vote is on me now.

If it's the only reason, it's a good enough reason. I'm trying not to take too much account into your OMGUSy reaction, but you are making it EXTREMELY difficult.

It's a fact that you admitted to overreacting to my comment; yet it's a fact your vote is still on me.

No, I didn't overreact!!! Nor did I admit to overreacting!!! My reaction was a desperate attempt to undo the damage that you did with your horrible horrible comment!

It's a fact that you defended Snark in finding fearless scummy; it's a fact I find Snark's theory unbelievable, and as such your defense fairly scummy.

In the last scumteam I was on (Amy's surprise game), my scummates all agreed that since A) there were more than one faction, and B) no one pays any attention to the NKs, that we should kill the people most suspicious of us. THAT is the consensus opinion of this forum, and until I see that change, I think Snark made a COMPLETELY valid point.

It's a fact that you jokingly attacked JSO and not made a vote out of it.

That's just 100% absurdity. I cannot believe these desperate attempts are working.

You're right, it's not a strong point. Vote someone for being suspicious of someone else? Suspicious.

Vote: Angua

Lolololol. You're voting someone for being suspicious of someone else for being suspicious of someone else! I really want to vote you for being suspicious of someone else for being suspicious of someone else for being suspicious of someone else, just for the fun of it. But I won't.

I'm an investigator. An "amateur sleuth", to be precise. I investigated Lataro last night and found that he has an arson ability, and is a miller.

[Adam H]

Great!
Unvote
Vote: Adam H
In that case, I'll be killed by werewolves, and krong/Snark by some other faction.

Are you seriously COORDINATING SCUM KILLS?!?!?

[Lataro]

I'm an investigator. An "amateur sleuth", to be precise. I investigated Lataro last night and found that he has an arson ability, and is a miller.

From re-reading my role PM, I can see this being info gained. Not 100% as I figured it, but wholly possible.

unvote
vote snark

Next mostly likely to be scum, and I'd rather a NL then an Adam H lynch after that info.

[matt96]

I'm an investigator. An "amateur sleuth", to be precise. I investigated Lataro last night and found that he has an arson ability, and is a miller.

From re-reading my role PM, I can see this being info gained. Not 100% as I figured it, but wholly possible.

unvote
vote snark

Next mostly likely to be scum, and I'd rather a NL then an Adam H lynch after that info.

can you answer my earlier question about what you think about Krong?

[Adam H]

Still trying to find what arguments of t1mm I haven't shown to be complete bull.

@Adam, claiming I'm uniting scum factions against town:

On discussing scum strat, I figured it was common knowledge. However, it appears to be that killing scummy people works to, so to the scum in this and future games: Kill who you want!

on wednesday, 7:07 pm UTC.
By the way, you admitted to it being just an off-hand comment at first, and turned it into a 3-page discussion. I'm sure most of everyone would have read over it if not for you posting it out that greatly.

Hmmm, compare that defense with this post that came just hours before:

@ everyone who thinks I'm scummy: I don't understand why, when I compare me to Adam. Look at his reasons to lynch me. According to his most recent post it's all about one comment I made which I still claim is true.
He's had 4 reasons for lynching me, dropped 3, but is still very, very keen on getting me lynched; he even said that all this going on around this discussion is to distract you from my scumminess! ('cause, y'know, it's an excellent plan to all guard your most suicidal member)

[Lataro]

I'm an investigator. An "amateur sleuth", to be precise. I investigated Lataro last night and found that he has an arson ability, and is a miller.

From re-reading my role PM, I can see this being info gained. Not 100% as I figured it, but wholly possible.

unvote
vote snark

Next mostly likely to be scum, and I'd rather a NL then an Adam H lynch after that info.

can you answer my earlier question about what you think about Krong?

Can you take your vote off a cop?

I didn't see your question, but at this juncture, this is more important if you are on and able to vote.

[Lataro]

Same for you ahammel, I see you online... just posting that info in case you don't change before deadline so that tomorrow it is well known that you sat there and left a vote on a cop to cause a NL rather than lynch someone else.

[matt96]

fine
Unvote
But I am prepared to vote again if people think Adam H might be a mafia role cop, or scum buddies with Lataro.

[Angua]

When it comes to lataro, it's hard to tell.

Also, I'm not really sure how Adam would find out that Lataro is a miller? Is that usual for role cops vs normal cops?

[Lataro]

I don't really understand it myself, however, reading my role PM flavor, both fit rather well, and thus, I don't see how he could have made it up. Thus, I've no option but to believe him.

[Angua]

The problem is - I don't quite believe you.

[matt96]

Now will you tell me what you thought of Krong yesterday?

[Lataro]

The problem is - I don't quite believe you.

Thats nice.

I'll keep that in mind tomorrow when looking at players trying to lynch the claimed cop after he dies tonight and is revealed as telling the truth.

As to matt96, I had mixed feelings, nothing that I'm going to go deeply into as I'm leaving in a couple minutes for work.

[Angua]

You do that - if it was anyone else that he'd given the results of, I would probably have believed him. As it is, I'm not sure what to think. I also think being able to find out someone is a miller somewhat defeats the purpose of the role.

[Angua]

Fine,

unvote


Mainly because I don't want a no lynch, though I'm not convinced snark deserves to be lynched.

[Angua]

Mainly because I've seen just how wrong snark can be while still convinced he's right in other games.

[Snark]

9 to lynch. Deadline is at 9pm BST, Thursday 19th April, just over 12.5 hours from now. As it is likely that I will be offline when the deadline occurs, I would like to remind you all that you are free to continue posting past the nominal deadline until I actually call night, as long as a majority vote has not been reached.

This is me posting after the nominal deadline.

I would really love to not be lynched. I seriously can't believe I'm still being lynched after I told you all that I'm a lover with Krong.

I need an unvote of me or another vote on Adam or Tim. I'll vote with the majority between the two to try and save myself.

[Snark]

Unvote
Vote: Adam H

[Adam H]

I'm not too broken up about a snark lynch because if t1mm's right (and no one's said otherwise) then usually one of the lovers is scum. 1 for 1 is an OK tradeoff, I think. Couple that with the possibility that Snark is lying (which means he's scum).

But I still can't believe t1mm survived today. I'd be absolutely flabbergasted if t1mm was not scum.

[Adam H]

EBWOP: if by chance that vote is valid, by my count snark will still be lynched anyway, so my vote's staying on t1mm. I don't think Snark's scum and when/if he comes back town tomorrow I want to be able to look all of you t1mm-protectors in the eye and say told-you-so.

[Snark]

If you don't think I'm scum then vote for yourself. That will tie the votes and neither of us will be lynched.

[Adam H]

That's... surprisingly tempting. But no, I'm not so arrogant as to think I can't be wrong.

[Snark]

And with that, Adam vanishes offline. How helpful.

Anyone else out there think that Adam is scummier than me? Or Tim? Either one works for me.

I'd love you to start putting votes down.

Unofficial votals
Snark (5): ForAllOfThis, wam, Webby, fearless, Lataro
Adam H (4): BoomFrog, ahammel, Tim, Snark
t1mm01994 (3): Adam H, JesseScottOwen, CaptainFinglass
Lataro (1): Krong

I'll switch back to Tim if anyone else does.

[CaptainFinglass]

Not sure I want to see a Snark lynch. I've played a couple of other games with him, and to be honest I think it's just his general playing style that comes across as scummy. This is exactly how he's acted in both the games I've seen him as town. For that reason alone, I'm inclined to think he isn't scum. My vote on T1mm stays, because between him and Adam, I think he's a dash more likely to be scum.

[webby]

I'm not really convinced by the towniness of either claim.

The cop seems extremely detailed and sounds like a scum rolecop, a town rolecop who gets that much information seems a bit powerful. Being lovers is no guarantee that both are town, but no guarantee that one is scum, either. According to mafiascum, lovers of all alignments are possible. Often if they're both town they are given this information, but in this case it seems that they weren't.

I'm going to keep my vote on Snark because Krong + Snark are weaker than two average townies given that if one dies the other does too, and also because I think that just as likely as both being town is that they're from opposing scum teams. Another option I can think of is that they are both dusk druids wanting to be nightkilled.

I'm not going to risk lynching the cop, although I wish to note that I don't think rolecop is necessarily a town role.

[Snark]

Not sure I want to see a Snark lynch. I've played a couple of other games with him, and to be honest I think it's just his general playing style that comes across as scummy. This is exactly how he's acted in both the games I've seen him as town. For that reason alone, I'm inclined to think he isn't scum. My vote on T1mm stays, because between him and Adam, I think he's a dash more likely to be scum.

If you don't want me lynched, then tie it up by voting for Adam please.

I need help. Not flip-flopppy-ness.

[matt96]

If someone else votes Adam, I'll go there too, but I don't want a no lynch scenario, because we would have the same scenario, and a few less townies doing the voting tomorrow.

[Snark]

BoomFrog, you're online and you said you're not happy with lynching me.

If that's still the case, will you switch to Tim with me to tie it up?

[Snark]

And with that, BoomFrog goes offline.

Can we get a little audience participation here?

Sorry for sounding desperate, but I am. Call me crazy, but I'd really like to not die if possible.

I really am sorry for blowing up the wall with posts here, but surely someone out there understands.

[matt96]

I'll
Vote:Adam H.
but if no one else votes with me before the new deadline, I'm unvoting, happy now, Snark?

[matt96]

EBWOP: Now that I see it is already after the deadline, I'm going to
Unvote
if anyone else wants to vote Adam H, I'll go there too.

[Snark]

Yeah I was happy. For about 4 minutes. Until your second post.

I'm on pins and needles here. I like mafia games with strict deadlines.

[Misnomer]

DAY END!

No more posts please - this will be replaced with the day end post shortly.

Edit...

Votals:

Snark (5): ForAllOfThis, wam, Webby, fearless, Lataro
Adam H (4): BoomFrog, ahammel, t1mm01994, Snark
t1mm01994 (3): Adam H, JesseScottOwen, CaptainFinglass
Lataro (1): Krong

Not Voting (4): Outnuendo, greenlover, matt96, Angua


...shadows... lies... return... demon...


...kill.

Misnomer cried out with horror at the sight before him - or at least he would have, had not the sheer terror of his predicament not robbed him of all ability to speak. There before him the mutilated body lay and in his hands - oh God, in HIS hands - was the bloodied axe. How had this happened? How had become a weapon for the use of others? Driven by fear he once again ran. He ran and he ran until he tripped and -

Misnomer woke up in his bed in the infirmary. Collecting his senses, he realised that it was just a dream. I mean, it must have just been a dream, right? As Misnomer calmed himself down and allowed a far more pleasant sleep to return to him, the mutilated body of Outnuendo waited in a side street of Xkcdia for the new dawn to uncover it...

Outnuendo has been modkilled for inactivity.

Meanwhile, the townsfolk were getting pretty violent themselves. Despite their best efforts, there was no consensus on who should be lynched, and the town divided into three groups, each accusing a different person of being a supernatural monstrosity. Some claimed that the werewolf was Snark, others that it was T1mm01994, others still that it was Adam H.

As the sun began to set in the sky, the arguing still continued, and tempers began to fray. Realising that there was no way any peaceful agreement could come about, ForAllOfThis decided to take matters into his own hands. Grabbing a nearby rifle, he set his sights upon his target and fired.

'SNAAARRRRK!!'

Suddenly, Krong dived in front of Snark as the rifle fired, taking the full force of the shot. With a gasp, he collapsed to the ground, mortally wounded.

'Krong...? KROOONG!! NO! NOOOO! YOU CA-'

The sound of the rifle shooting rang out again, and this time ForAllOfThis hit his intended target. The life draining from him, Snark fell to the ground as well.

Using the last of his energy, Krong reached out and took Snark's hand. Smiling at the man he tried to save from his fate, Krong laugh weakly... 'Heh... I guess it looks like we're dying together Snark...'

'What did I tell your Krong?' Snark whispered back, tears streaming from his eyes as he squeezed Krong's hand tight, 'I said we'd always do everything important together...'

And with that, Krong and Snark passed on from this world to the next, hand in hand all the way.

Snark has been lynched and is now dead.

Krong has also died, from a broken heart.

All role details will be revealed at the start of the next day.

For those that remained in the mortal world however, the story was far from over. Indeed, as the townsfolk made their way back to their homes, many were of the opinion that the battle for Xkcdia has only just begun...

It is now Night 2. The deadline for actions to be sent in is 6pm BST Sunday 22nd of April.

[Misnomer]

I'm still waiting on quite a lot of actions back - if you haven't sent them in, do so ASAP. A hard deadline is now in place for 6pm BST Monday April 23rd. If I still haven't got actions from you by then, then you've lost your chance to do anything this night.

[Misnomer]

The night was long and fitful... and dark things were on the move.

Outside of Webby's house, the cloaked figure watched and waited. To any casual observer, the figure would have appeared most unextraordinary... unless, of course, they happened to glance at the lake and noticed that the figure left no reflection. However, no casual observer interrupted the strangers' vigil, and with the morning's first light they were gone.

The daylight brought with it two further bodies, adding to the three from the night before. Both Lataro and Angua had joined the ranks of the dead.

Turning to Lataro first, they found him surrounded by bomb-making equipment and revolutionary literature. It looks like they'd all been living with an anarchist in their midst!

Lataro is now dead. He was an Anarchist, Town. He had the ability to target a player each night to rig them with explosives, and then a 1-shot day power that would have killed everyone he had targeted. He would also have appeared as a miller to certain investigations.

The townsfolk were in two minds about whether or not it was a good thing that they wouldn't be suddenly blown up when they least suspected it. However, they were soon distracted by a far more momentous discovery...

Examining the bodies of Angua, Krong and Outnuendo, the townsfolk noticed something very strange. The eyes of all three of them had turned bright red. Could this be the work of the supernatural? They were soon to find out.

As the moon finally set beneath the horizon of the morning sky, the wind suddenly picked up and howled through the town. In front of their very eyes, they saw the trio transform into their true forms for the final time. Fur, claws, razor-sharp teeth... they were werewolves, all three of them! And they were all dead!

Angua is now dead. She was the Werewolf Graverobber, Anti-town. She received information at the start of each night about the role and alignment of that day's lynchee.
Outnuendo was the Werewolf Huntmaster, Anti-town. He had a tracking ability.
Krong was the Werewolf Mage, Anti-town. He had the power to redirect people from their chosen target to a target of his choice. He was also the Lover of Snark, and could send him love letters on odd-numbered nights.

The townsfolk rejoiced at the news: only yesterday the situation had looked bleak, but now there was no doubt that things were looking up for Xkcdia. However, the morning had one more surprise in store...

'Ermm... guys?' said wam, standing over Snark's corpse, 'You might want to look at this...'

wam was holding in his hands a letter that he had found in Snark's jacket pocket. A quick inspection revealed it to be a set of instructions for the protection of certain 'favourable' targets. The names were all heavily encoded, but the repeated references to the 'family business' made things perfectly clear.

Xkcdia may have been out in the sticks, but its people still read the news. They knew about what was going on in the cities. Terrifying criminal gangs, seizing power by force... and now it was happening in their very own neighbourhood. The Mafia had come to Xkcdia.

Snark was a Mafia Soldier, Anti-town. He had an all-purpose protection ability. He was also lovers with Krong, and could send him love letters on even-numbered nights.

For all their earlier celebration, the townsfolk now knew that the situation was as dangerous as ever. Clearly, they would need to lynch again, and lynch well...

It is now Day 3. 13 12 of you left alive, so 7 votes needed for a majority lynch. Provisional deadline set for 6pm BST, Saturday 29th April.