[Probably obvious, but trigger warning for pretty much everything to do with rape culture, rape, rape description and general unpleasantness]
Even with both of those, shouldn't that just mean that we'd be obligated to inform women these figures before signing up, then letting them make their own choices, instead of denying them the right to do so outright? Denying them that right is punishing them for something that they might suffer, instead of punishing the people that would make them suffer it or the system that allows those people to do so.
I think our responsibility exceeds simply informing women. While it's not up to the government to force women to engage in safe behaviour, neither is it ethical for the government to create
a situation in which rape is going to happen very often.
YES! This Argument so much, we should not create a situation where women can be raped, we must prohibit women drinking alcohol! And we certainly can't allow them out the door without being accompanied by a male family member! Or at least a proxy of one, where the male family member has agreed that the proxy can be trusted! And no showing bare skin either! We reduce the chance of rape!
In case anyone didn't notice, the above is irony.
We cannot in any ethical way deny women rights that men have, without enforcing a culture where each individual woman's agency are taken away from her, and she's left without the ability to hold a independent agenda - and that's exactly the culture that we call rape-culture, a culture where women are property, and taking the sex you see them "owing you", against their will, is an common act that a lot of people nod at and say "sure, I can understand him" (even if they publicly criticize him). In the short term, denying women the right to enter the military might seem like it's combating rape, but in the long term, it's exactly
the kind of rules that directly lead to the base-line rape incident rate being 16-25% (depending on studies and estimates of dark numbers).
When dealing with a sick culture that thinks it's okay to ignore people's consent, the worthwhile action is not to make sure that women are kept from that culture, but to fix that culture! If nothing else because the male service members are not kept strictly in the military, they are members of society, and do you really believe that a man willing to rape while on the job, is unwilling to rape when he goes on vacation?
What is wrong with us?
People like you
is what is wrong with us. It's people like you that make well intentioned arguments that directly works against women, it's the idea of "we must protect women, even against their will" that in a few steps gets twisted into "women are not capable of protecting themselves" which in a few more steps means "doing things to a woman without her consent is okay" - and the next step should be so obvious that I'm not even going to show it.
It's people saying "All rapists are irredeemable evil monsters" - because the logical step is "pat is not a irredeemable evil monster, he has two kittens and he gives money to the poor, ergo he can't be a rapist, she must be lying". It's people saying saying "Surprise butt sex!" and expecting everyone to laugh.
It's people being offended of the concept of schrödingers rapist, and saying "no one I know is a rapist", when all odds say that unless you have a social circle of <10 men, at least one of them is a rapist, likely more than one.
People like me
is what is wrong with us. Because despite being a well informed individual, who is generally thought to be rather obsessive with being respectful towards others, I still occasionally laugh when my friends describe yet another run-in with the administration as "then I got bent over, and the bastards didn't even use lube!". It's people like me that talk about rape culture - and yet are more protective of my female friends than my male friends! Even worse, I think I can defend that with a call to "but the danger is greater"!
Rape culture, it exist, we're all part of it.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it - Aristotle
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