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by **Odilo** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:48 pm UTC

I cast my vote in favour of Patzer's motion to create a new chess game. (Now 3 for, 0 against) Motion passed. Patzer awarded 4 points.
I cast my vote in favour of Fiery's motion to get reduce the waste of space in the SotN. (Now 3 for, 0 against) Motion passed. Fiery awarded 32 points.

Ky strikes, Fiery strikes. No one scores a hit. (0 points Ky, 2 points Fiery)

by **orangedragonfire** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:55 pm UTC

Carey strikes, Odin parries, Odin scores a hit! Odin wins!

Odin has won a duel against Carey. Odin gains 3 points, Carey looses 2 points.

by **Odilo** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:54 pm UTC

I join team white.
1. e3 Board

I retract my motion to introduce new perks.

I guess that Fiery will post next.

by **orangedragonfire** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:45 am UTC

(Ky wins Ky's wager #1; +5 points to Ky and -5 points to Carey)

Honor: 5 points
Fiery
Odin
Carey
Froggy
Chia
Spikey
Mr X
Patzer

Investments:
12 Carey
10 Fiery
6 Snarky
6 Alex
6 Spikey
6 Odin
6 Patzer
6 Chia
6 Ky
4 Tim
2 Null
2 Mr X

(awarded Patzer 4 point for motion passing)
(awarded Fiery 32 points for motion passing)
(+3 to Odin, -2 to Carey due to duel)
(awarded Odin 1 point for guessing correctly)
(awarded Fiery 2 points for State of the Nomic post)

The State of the Nomic
Rules
All Motions
Current amount of votes needed to decide a motion: 3

Players:

Spoiler:

Chess Game:

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Current Wagers:

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Active Duels:

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Open Trades:

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Active motions:
(for the full text of the motions, see the All Motions page on the wiki)

Spoiler:

by **Queen Arasene** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:04 pm UTC

I pick the nickname "Queeny"

I make a motion to introduce myself to the game. For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as Queeny's motion to be confused by Nomic.

I cast my vote in favor of Fiery's motion to make duels more formal

And I cry at the complications of the game.
Did I do anything wrong yet?

by **orangedragonfire** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:19 pm UTC

Queen Arasene wrote:Did I do anything wrong yet?

Oh, my, yes. You forgot to give a votecount after voting on the motion; furthermore, since the motion passed with your vote, you were supposed to say "Motion passed, X awarded y points", where X is how made the motion and y is how many points that person got for the motion passing (in this case Fiery and 32). Also, you need to vote on all active motions before you are allowed to make one yourself.

For these grave errors, you are penalized a total of 0 points (the base value is 2 points for a rule infraction, reduced to 1 by your Newbie Protection, reduced to 0 by your Protection.)

Anyway, welcome to the game.

by **Queen Arasene** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:30 pm UTC

Oh, I see. Can I go again?

I cast my vote in favor of Fiery's motion to make duels more formal. (Now 3 for, 1 against, 2 abstain) Motion passed. Fiery awarded 32 points. (For whatever reason.)
Because Odin retracted his motion, I guess that I do not have to vote on it.

I make a motion to introduce myself to the game. For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as Queeny's motion to be confused by Nomic.

Or is this a double post? > At least my motion is appropriate... <

by **orangedragonfire** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:05 pm UTC

I cast my vote in favor of Queeny's motion to be confused by Nomic. (now 1 for, 0 against)

I make a motion to amend the last paragraph of rule §03.01 so that you only need to say whether a rule has passed or failed and not how many points were awarded. Specifically, the paragraph would read:

The player who makes the deciding vote on a motion must after his/her vote write "Motion [passed/denied or appropriate synonym]. For example, one could write "I cast my vote in favor of Alex's motion to grant himself a meaningless title. Motion passed."

For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as Fiery's motion to make casting the deciding vote on a motion easier.

I cast my vote in favor of Fiery's motion to make casting the deciding vote on a motion easier (now 1 for, 0 against)

(awarded Fiery 32 points for motion passing)
(awarded Fiery 2 points for State of the Nomic post)

The State of the Nomic
Rules
All Motions
Current amount of votes needed to decide a motion: 3

Players:

Spoiler:

Chess Game:

Spoiler:

Current Wagers:

Spoiler:

Active Duels:

Spoiler:

Open Trades:

Spoiler:

Active motions:
(for the full text of the motions, see the All Motions page on the wiki)

Spoiler:

by **Kyreles** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:34 pm UTC

I cast my vote in favor of Fiery's motion to make casting the deciding vote on a motion easier (now 2 for, 0 against)
I cast my vote in favor of Queeny's motion to be confused by Nomic. (now 2 for, 0 against) Welcome!

I join Team Black. 2. d5 board

I move that the text of Rule §03.01 be edited to read "To vote in favor of or against a motion, one must declare one's vote by saying "I vote [Yea or Nay] on [motion-maker]'s motion to [motion summary]." For example, one could say "I vote Yea on ahammel's motion to grant himself a meaningless title... For the purposes of voting shall be refered to as Kyreles' motion to remember the good ol' days.

The rules for abstaining wouldn't change. It'd still be: "I abstain from voting on [motion-maker]'s motion to [motion summary]." Also, Fiery, I've made the next move in our duel. I picked Lizard. Pick paper or Spock, please.

by **orangedragonfire** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:24 pm UTC

I cast my vote against Kyreles' motion to remember the good ol' days. (now 0 for, 1 against)

I make a motion to award people 1 point for pointing out unclear wording or incoherence in the ruleset, if the arbiter recognizes it as such. In order to be awarded the point, the report of the problem must be in accordance with rule §04.02. For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as Fiery's motion to encourage people to keep the ruleset coherent and comprehensible.

by **Odilo** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:04 pm UTC

I cast my vote in favour of Fiery's motion to make casting the deciding vote on a motion easier. (Now 3 for, 0 against) Motion passed.
I cast my vote in favour of Queeny's motion to be confused by Nomic. (Now 3 for, 0 against) Motion passed.
I abstain from voting on Kyreles' motion to remember the good ol' days. (Now 0 for, 1 against, 1 abstain)
I cast my vote in favour of Fiery's motion to encourage people to keep the ruleset coherent and comprehensible. (Now 1 for, 0 against)

I make a motion to allow players to buy a pet unicorn for 10 points. You are only allowed to have one unicorn. For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as Odin's motion to have a pet unicorn.

White:
Nc3 Board

Ky strikes, Fiery feints. Ky scores a hit! (1 point Ky, 2 points Fiery)

I guess that Fiery will post next.

by **Kyreles** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:10 pm UTC

I vote in favor of Fiery's motion to encourage people to keep the ruleset coherent and comprehensible. (Now 2 for, 0 against)
I vote in favor of Odin's motion to have a pet unicorn. (Now 1 for, 0 against)

Black: Nc6 Board

I made my next move Fiery. Choose wisely...

rock would be wise

by **orangedragonfire** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:27 pm UTC

I vote in favor of Odin's motion to have a pet unicorn. (Now 2 for, 0 against)

I guess that Ky will post next.

I join Team White.
Move: Nh3
Board

I make a motion that when making a State of the Nomic post, a list of changes in both points and perks must be included, with a brief mention of the reason for the change. For the purpose of voting, this motion shall be referred to as Fiery's motion to make the make perks more trackable.

by **Odilo** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:31 pm UTC

Ky strikes, Fiery feints. Ky scores a hit! (2 points Ky, 2 points Fiery) Next point wins. Choose wisely...

Ky, has my duel against Fiery started yet? Am I supposed to be sending you a number?

Edit: I cast my vote in favour of Fiery's motion to make the make perks more trackable. (Now 1 for, 0 against)

by **orangedragonfire** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:38 pm UTC

I cast my vote in favour of Fiery's motion to make the make perks more trackable. (Now 2 for, 0 against)

by **Odilo** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:54 pm UTC

Ky strikes, Fiery strikes. No one scores a hit. (2 points Ky, 2 points Fiery)
Ooh, this is intense.

by **orangedragonfire** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:59 am UTC

hmmm...

Buy: Remove Grand High Poobah of the Nomic status for 35 points.
Buy: Grand High Poobah of the Nomic status for 25 points.

I make a motion that the pet unicorns may be stolen by someone from the Thread Necromany thread and used in their war. For the purpose of voting, this motion shall be referred to as Fiery's motion to draft the unicorns.

by **Kyreles** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:00 am UTC

Odilo wrote:Ky, has my duel against Fiery started yet? Am I supposed to be sending you a number?

I've been was out of town last weekend and yesterday (monday). Not sure if I said it earlier or not.

The duel Odin against Fiery by Ropes at Sunrise has begun!

Send me your numbers.

I cast my vote in favor of Fiery's motion to make the make perks more trackable. (Now 2 for, 0 against)

Move: e5 Board

I made my next move in our duel Fiery.

[edit]Clarification request. Does reading the wikipedia page on opening moves (and similar) count as a violation of Rule §06.04. Specifically: "The use of sources such as books of opening or endgame theory is permitted." Sources such as books etc. Wikipedia is such a source? [/edit]

by **Odilo** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:22 am UTC

I cast my vote in favour of Fiery's motion to draft the unicorns. (Now 1 for, 0 against)

Ky strikes, Fiery parries. Fiery scores a hit! (2 points Ky, 3 points Fiery)
Fiery wins the duel!

by **orangedragonfire** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:40 am UTC

I cast my vote in favor of Fiery's motion to draft the unicorns (now 2 for, 0 against)

(awarded Fiery 32 point for motion passing)
(awarded Queeny 4 point for motion passing)
(charged Fiery a total of 60 points for removing and buying the title Grand High Poobah of the Nomic)
(penalized Ky 2 points for getting the vote count wrong (3 instead of 2 for), and thus not mentioning that the motion passed)
(awarded Fiery 32 point for motion passing)
(+4 points to Fiery and -2 to Ky for duel)
(awarded Fiery an Extra Vote Perk (ExV) for winning a duel)
(awarded Fiery 2 points for State of the Nomic post)

The State of the Nomic
Rules
All Motions
Current amount of votes needed to decide a motion: 3

Players:

Spoiler:

Chess Game:

Spoiler:

Current Wagers:

Spoiler:

Active Duels:

Spoiler:

Open Trades:

Spoiler:

Active motions:
(for the full text of the motions, see the All Motions page on the wiki)

Spoiler:

by **careyhammer** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:56 am UTC

Wow! Lots is happening. Welcome new people. Feel free to make some random wagers, I will accept almost anything.

I will play again once I read the new rules and decide how to vote. I am busy tonight, so probably tomorrow. Have fun.

by **Bartimaeus** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:00 am UTC

I have no idea what's going on.

Move: Bb5
Board

by **matt96** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:04 am UTC

I cast my vote against Kyreles' motion to remember the good ol' days (now 0 for, 2 against, 1 abstain)
I cast my vote in favor of Fiery's motion to encourage people to keep the ruleset coherent and comprehensible (now 3 for, 0 against) the motion passes
I cast my vote in favor of Odin's motion to have a pet unicorn (now 3 for, 0 against) the motion passes
I cast my vote in favor of Fiery's motion to draft the unicorns (now 3 for, 0 against) the motion passes
Buy:Investment for 2 points
Buy:Investment for 4 points

by **Kyreles** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:06 am UTC

I vote in favor of Fiery's motion to draft the unicorns. (Now 3 for, 0 against) Motion passed.

Odin, do you have the pm I sent you at the beginning of my duel with Fiery? Post it if you do.

I challenge Carey to a duel by Drinks at Dusk.

by **orangedragonfire** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:07 am UTC

Bartimaeus wrote:I have no idea what's going on.

Move: Bb5
Board

Well, let me try to explain. You will find the complete rules here, although not all are important right away. The link will be in any State of the Nomic post (which are the ones with lots of spoilers), which also include all current information, like what motions are active, and how many points people have.

The first thing you need to do if you want to play is pick a nickname; as you are not allowed to take any official action you take will count. See rule §04.01. (making a chess move counts as official action)

by **Kyreles** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:09 am UTC

You should also pick a team per Rule §06.04.

Maybe wait a little bit to see how things work before participating in all the little games. Vote on some motions, maybe duel Fiery. Then join the chess game.

[edit] This is the 666^th post

by **orangedragonfire** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:11 am UTC

Kyreles wrote:I challenge Carey to a duel by Drinks at Dusk.

This does not count, you need to make a more formal challenge now ^^

by **Odilo** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:15 am UTC

I claim the title Poobah.
I accept Fiery's trade of 40 points for his Tradesmaster title.
Buy: Remove Grand High Poobah of the Nomic status for 35 points.
Buy: Grand High Poobah of the Nomic status for 25 points.
With 5 titles, I get the Leadership perk.
Buy: Egoistical Voting Perk for 50 points.
With 5 perks, I get the Multiple Perks Perk.
Buy: Double Down Perk for 20 points.
Buy: Double Down Perk for 20 points.
I accept Fiery's trade of my title of Grand High Poobah of the Nomic for 25 points.
I accept Fiery's trade of my Extra Vote Perk for 10 points.

I offer to trade my title of Tradesmaster for 40 points.
I offer to trade 5 points for an extra vote perk.
I offer to trade a picture of a delicious cookie for 10 points.

Ky's pm from the duel with Fiery:

Kyreles wrote:Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike Strike

No matter what he does, I want to strike for how ever many rounds this goes on for, like a madman just swinging wildly.

by **Bartimaeus** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:15 am UTC

I just wanted to play a nice game of chess

I guess I'll go read a bit.

by **Kyreles** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:15 am UTC

orangedragonfire wrote:This does not count, you need to make a more formal challenge now ^^

Ugh, that passed? I voted against it! I assumed that my opposition to the motion would sway others. Must have happened while I was away...

I, Ky, challenge Carey, Honorable Bookmaker, to a duel by Drinks at Dusk.

Better?

by **Bartimaeus** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:33 am UTC

I pick the nickname [Fishy].

I hope that isn't taken.

Sorry to have just randomly posted, but I'm not used to forum games being so structured.

by **orangedragonfire** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:43 am UTC

Hey, no problem. We've added lots of protection for new players precisely because they don't know the rules yet. In effect, you can't loose any points by making mistakes. If you want points, let me tell you the easy ways to get some in the beginning. Joining Nomy 1.0 will get you 3 points, making 3 posts will give you 5 points, and having a link to this game in your sig will give you 5 points. Furthermore, as long as you have Newbie Protection (which lasts until you have 20 points), you can't get any penalties, so it's a good idea to claim honor - it yields 5 points per page, but usually doubles penalties (but penalties are nullified by Newbie Protection and Protection)

@Odin: Well played. But "a picture of a delicious cookie" is not in the list of tradable items, the trade involving it is therefore not valid.

@Ky: Yes.

/edit: are the []-parentheses supposed to be part of the nickname? In that case, you'd be over 6 characters.

by **matt96** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:44 am UTC

I have honor
I wager 4 points against 3 points that at least 2 unicorns will be drafted withing the 24 hour period following the acceptance of this wager. This wager name will be QQQVAR's wager #1
I make a motion to only allow unicorns from this thread to be stolen into the thread necromancy game by the person who owns the unicorn being stolen

by **Odilo** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:55 am UTC

I abstain from voting on matt96's nameless motion.

I make a motion that if your unicorn is stolen, you may buy a replacement unicorn for 5 points. For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as Odin's motion to have half-priced unicorns for victims of unicorn theft.

I make a motion to include pictures of delicious cookies as tradable items. For the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as Odin's motion to trade pictures of cookies.

I offer to 1 point for 10 points. <-- This is an awesome deal. Trust me.

by **matt96** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:06 am UTC

I retract my nameless motion
I cast my vote against Odin's motion to have half-priced unicorns available for victims of unicorn theft (now 0 for, 1 against)
I cast my vote against Odin's motion to trade pictures of cookies (now 0 for, 1 against)
I make a motion to negate penalties caused by incorrect information due to a player's post being ninja'd, for the purposes of voting, this motion shall be referred to as QQQVAR'S motion to prevent penalties due to ninjas

by **Odilo** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:20 am UTC

I cast my vote in favour of QQQVAR'S motion to prevent penalties due to ninjas. (Now 1 for, 0 against)
I cast my vote in favour of Odin's motion to have half-priced unicorns for victims of unicorn theft. (Now 1 for, 1 against)
I cast my vote in favour of Odin's motion to trade pictures of cookies. (Now 1 for, 1 against)

White:
Bb5 Board

by **Kyreles** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:32 am UTC

Board Black: Bxh3 Captured a knight. I get 3 points.

by **orangedragonfire** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:36 am UTC

(On closer inspection, only five honorable titles will give you the Leadership Perk. Both the Poobah and the Trademaster title are not honorable unless declared so.)

I offer to trade 10 points for the title Newbie of the Nomic.

The State of the Nomic
Rules
All Motions
Current amount of votes needed to decide a motion: 3

Changes:

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Players:

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Chess Game:

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Current Wagers:

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Active Duels:

Spoiler:

Open Trades:

Spoiler:

Active motions:
(for the full text of the motions, see the All Motions page on the wiki)

Spoiler:

by **matt96** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:43 am UTC

I join team white
White:gxh3
board
I believe I get 3 points for capturing a bishop

by **Kyreles** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:52 am UTC

matt96 wrote:I join team white

I'm not complaining, but it seems like it's everyone vs me at this point!

Pawn to d4. Board

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