Izawwlgood wrote:Thin ties are where it's at. Bow ties to me suggest that you are either eternally single, or that your wife dresses you. The latter isn't really a bad thing, just sort of fits the bill for older dapper gentlemen.
I'm 28, not getting to retire.
You see, this form of thinking is really common where I'm at now. Thankfully I'm here to change that
. As for thin ties, I've never really been able to stand them to be honest. Whenever I see them, even if the person wearing it is all dressed up, I can't help but feel as if they belong in the deep south. Well either that or else in a gay parade. (Most of the people who I see with thin ties tend to be gay, or else bi for that matter.)
Steax wrote:In all seriousness, I wear long ties whenever I'm trying to be serious because it seems to be the norm here.
... Though my ties do tend to have either Elmo, Tigger, Cookie Monster (LONG LIVE THE COOKIE MONSTER), or... something to that degree. I haven't found a bender tie yet.
Okay, I do have to admit. Bowties are rather bad when it comes to designs most of the time. Just not a big enough surface area to really put much of a design. Although I have seen a bowtie or two with a pokeball on it. And of course the Cookie Monster, where else will the youth of this world learn about the true realities in life =P
Of course, the other holy war here is "what knot do you use for your (non-bow) tie"?
Also I am no longer a mod so it's up to phlip whether this thread belongs here.
Hmm, I always just kinda made up a know. From what I've gathered sometimes I do a double windsor, and sometimes a windsor, and one person told me I once did a triple windsor, but I think he may have just been trolling me. Really, even when I was wearing a tie two times a week though I could still never get the length right the first time. Absolutely terrrible.
Steax wrote:There are different knots?
I always do the... right (long/main end) over left, right loops in, right wraps left side, right wraps right side (via inner side), right over left (via outer side), right through the loop, right in between the knot and recent out-side-segment, pull down, tighten with short end, hope length works out, repeat several dozen times till it does thing.
Ninja'd. Yeah, think that's a windsor.
http://www.tie-a-tie.net/ gives four (the same four as Izawwlgood's link). I can't tell from your description what you do, but that site has some decent pictures. I sort of get the sense that the most common is what is called the four-in-hand though, so that should maybe be your first stop.
Since discovering that site, I've been using the Pratt knot when I need a tie. Which is only once every couple years, so I totally sympathize with the "hope length works out, repeat several dozen times till it does" part of your instructions.
Okay, Hmm, well I guess I've been doing the Windsor, the Half-Windsor, and one that's like mixing a prat with a windsor. Interesting.
Steax wrote:Yeah, looks like a Windsor (though, I think, in my laziness in college days I sometimes mentally turned that into the Half-Windsor variant). Huh, I didn't know there were other ways to do that...
... I'll go get a tie now.
What's the usual measure of 'length'? I was first taught by a teacher that it should be bellybutton-length, then my parents said it should be till about crotch-length, then someone else mentioned it at waist length. Evan's site gives top-of-belt length, which sounds alright, but is that generally accepted or just one of many standards?
For length I normally did between the belly button and belt. I could never get length right so as soon as I got into that range I just said "screw it, I'm close enough."