Rodion Raskolnikov wrote:Aaaaaaand foe'd.
sdkelso, you seem to be hell bent on becoming the Sourmilk of this thread (in terms of making every conversation about you rather than football). Thing is, Sourmilk occasionally says interesting things, or at least gives the impression he's not desperately trolling.
Your contributions seem to consist almost entirely of anger, swearing and insults, aimed at no-one and everyone. It's getting dull.
Have you actually read any of my posts, or are you just mindlessly siding with the majority? I assume the latter, as your post is simply wrong. Every time I enter this thread it is to talk about football. However, because some people for whatever reason are not okay with that, they have to twist the conversation to be about me. Look at the page before this one as a prime example. In response to Garm, I posted about how possession doesn't mean anything if you don't have quality in the final third. Within minutes two users felt the need to attack me personally (one of the even saying something like, "no one's even talking about that anymore," deliberately ignoring the post I was responding to that was, in fact, precisely about "that"). When I defend myself I'm met with self-righteousness and straw-man fallacies. This is a perfect snapshot of my involvement in this thread. It seems to have all started when I responded to Dream saying that he hated to see a great team brought down by a team what were worse than them. I thought that that was a ridiculous statement (is it okay for me to have an opinion?), so I argued against it. Unfortunately, like the altercation on the last page, people felt the need to ignore the vast majority of my posts and attack me and other Chelsea supporters personally (like when Dream unequivocally insulted Amie for thinking that there was no contact for Fabregas's penalty when plenty of pundits and commentators agreed with her). Somehow this is okay and my defense of myself and my team is not.
I have contributed plenty to this thread, as anybody who actually reads my posts (I have a feeling that Garm is the only one) would tell you. For instance, I provided a detailed analysis of why the Chelsea-Barcelona match was analogous to the Battle of Helm's Deep. Now, you may have missed this because two users continually felt the need to blunt and reduce my arguments into straw-men and knock them down. Their arguments, on the other hand, consisted of "they're not comparable!!" with no reasons attached. The closest either of them came to engaging in the argument was disagreeing with a small, inconsequential part of my post and writing off the rest of it as a consequence of this (and ignoring my response). In fact, I have only used strong language in this thread in two instances: (1) in defending myself from blatant self-righteousness and unnecessary personal attacks and (2) when having fun with rivalries.
It's frankly incredible how this thread has turned out. Some people cannot argue intelligently, thereby ignoring others reasons,committing straw-man fallacies, and writing off others points while providing reasons of their own--just about anybody on the wrong end of this would find it annoying. I've been not only effectively silenced during my entire participation in this thread, I've been accused of starting conflict when I had no such intention--conflict began and begins when people don't treat my arguments with the same respect that I treat theirs. I engage with them and defend my position, while they write me off. But I'd bet my life that this is another post which will go largely ignored--in fact, I'd bet my life that the well will be poisoned and that this post will be used as evidence that I make this thread "about myself." I won't know, because I'm wasting my time here if I expect certain users to acknowledge their hypocrisy and treat me with fairness and respect. Don't bother responding because I won't be here to read it.
In conclusion, Chelsea for the cup.