The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

[fshfood]

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[KrO2]

Mad Bomber:

Spoiler:

You know what I hate? That when I see that KrO2 was first to post a Mad Bomber spoiler, I immediately suspect him to be scum. I know it's wrong to base suspicions off of when people post spoilers and when they're online, but it's so difficult. I'm fixing this problem a bit by adding a spoiler just to say that I'm town and highly suspect myself to be chosen as the bomb at least once in the first 2 days.

Mad Bomber (Snark can read)

Spoiler:

You do realize that KrO2 is not even in your game, right? Unless that's what you meant when you posted your spoiler.

Mad Bomber (Snark can read):

Spoiler:

Laugh out freaking loud. Also, now I'm the scummy looking one.

Mad Bomber (Snark can read)

Spoiler:

Gotta say, loved reading this exchange. Also, I didn't know people would suspect based on spoiler timing. Entertain and edify!

[BoomFrog]

Mad Bomber:

Spoiler:

You know what I hate? That when I see that KrO2 was first to post a Mad Bomber spoiler, I immediately suspect him to be scum. I know it's wrong to base suspicions off of when people post spoilers and when they're online, but it's so difficult. I'm fixing this problem a bit by adding a spoiler just to say that I'm town and highly suspect myself to be chosen as the bomb at least once in the first 2 days.

Mad Bomber (Snark can read)

Spoiler:

You do realize that KrO2 is not even in your game, right? Unless that's what you meant when you posted your spoiler.

Mad Bomber (Snark can read):

Spoiler:

Laugh out freaking loud. Also, now I'm the scummy looking one.

Mad Bomber (Snark can read)

Spoiler:

Gotta say, loved reading this exchange. Also, I didn't know people would suspect based on spoiler timing. Entertain and edify!

Mad Bomber (Snark may NOT read):

Spoiler:

One shouldn't judge by spoiler timing because using that will discorage people from posting spoilers freely. Fortunatly, like who-is-online timing there are loads of false positives, and in my unscientific assesment, there is nothing approching a reliable connection.

Although I bet some analysis would lead to some corrilation between scummyness and frequency of posting. Or perhaps a corrilation between scummyness and posting at "scummy times" like just after a lynch or during pregame. It's a dark road though, and leads no where good.

[DaBigCheez]

Gargoyles (remember, no Gargoyles players may read):

Spoiler:

So, for the peanut gallery, there's two main interesting things about this game - I don't know whether they'll work, but I'm anxious to see them in action! Don't read on if you want to put together the pieces yourself

#1: The leader of the scum has a mason recruit. This is intended to be a misdirection tool, and if applied properly and everyone's perfectly trusting it will give them full control of the vote sometime on D4 - but there's a pre-existing (non-recruiting) mason group which can remove people from that one, with their ability flavor implying the mason group is a cult. (I mostly put the "deculter" in because the ability had the potential to be excruciatingly OP otherwise, and to make sure there was someone in the game who wouldn't just trust the mason group out-of-hand.)

#2: There's a serial killer, and that serial killer's immortal. They have a Lyncher after them, but the Lyncher doesn't know who they are, and they know who the Lyncher is...but the Lyncher *also* is immortal. The only way either of them can die is if one kills the other. (They do get roleblocked for a Day if they get hit by what would otherwise be a kill, though.) It's actually going to be pretty darn tough for the SK - I did put in something to stop them from automatically dying with no questions asked when it gets to endgame, and no, they don't have to kill their lyncher

These might both turn out to be horrible ideas, but I hope they lead to something interesting.

Additionally, this is a relatively low-kill game, with two kills (no vig) and lots of investigative powers, with multiple roleblocks and protective powers. I'm confident there should still be enough confusion and chaos to get plenty of death up in here - if it turns out I'm wrong and the game reduces to a Dethy or becomes utterly boring, well, I know what not to try for next time!

I was also extremely amused by some of the role assignments - it was all through random.org, but some roles wound up going to the hilariously right places. I'll keep quiet on that for now, though

[lynx]

Mad Bomber Mafia:

Spoiler:

What on earth are they all discussing when all we've done is confirmed?
Town here.

[UniqueScreenname]

@Uniquescreenname ... love your Avatar!

Thank you!
Shadowrun

Spoiler:

Apparently going forward I have to learn to be less hasty with my votes. I don't know how to get the pressure off my back other than roleclaiming, which will NK me. And then, I would like to retract what I've said about KrO2. He wasn't dumb. Just didn't know he was supposed to be aligned with me. However, it will be difficult to clear him as a godfather.

[Snark]

Werewolves:

Spoiler:

I like matt's idea.

If we only have 1 wolf and 1 mafia left then we should lynch 1 and matt can kill the remaining one.
So I say we lynch Boomfrog and matt kills ahammel.

That is assuming if the remaining scum NKs matt, matt's kill still goes through?

Then we have 2 town, and 1 druid, and we lynch the druid. ie captain flinglass

Vote boomfrog

Please god let this happen. Then GL NK's town. That moves it from 2-2-1-1 (town-werewolf-mafia-dusk druid) to either 0-0-1-1 for a mafia/dusk druid win, 1-0-0-1 for a town win, or 1-0-1-0 for a mafia win. This all depends on what ahammel decides to do with his kill. I can't imagine an anti-town faction preferring a town win over a rival anti-town win but we'll see.

[fshfood]

Shadowrun

Spoiler:

I'm strongly suspecting UniqueScreenname is a Drone Recruiter of some sort. I'm just not sure if she is pro-town or another faction. Really hoping if she gets lynched she at least comes back indie.

[UniqueScreenname]

Shadowrun

Spoiler:

Is voting for someone else to make it harder for them to lynch you considered scummy? I want to vote for lynx, as I have always suspected him, and KrO2 gave me a way to do that. However, I don't want people to think I am being lynch happy or jumping on a bandwagon. Can I say that I want to save myself and have that not immediately hammer me?

[KrO2]

Shadowrun

Spoiler:

That last spoiler probably contains exactly what I wish I could know. After my pretty clumsy attempt to point at lynx (in my defense, I actually do think there was a contradiction there), if US gets lynched and flips scum there's no way I'm not next. I still don't know what the flip would be. Worst case, it says "Unique Screenname was the Drone Controller (cult)," or it might say "mason" or just leave it at Drone Controller. But US isn't going to be lynched today, because if that's about to happen I'll claim to be a mason group and vote myself. As long as I don't flip cult, even me being dead is preferable to her being dead. GAH I WISH I KNEW IF I'M IN A CULT.The only other option I can think of is claiming to have copped her D1, but I don't actually have a cyber cop power, and there could easily be a watcher to disprove that.

This has a high chance of ending with me looking stupid.

[UniqueScreenname]

Shadowrun

Spoiler:

UUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! So few ways this will end well. Scenario 1) they believe us, we're both saved. Probability: really doubtful since he just confirmed something people were suspicious of. Scenario 2) people actually listen to him and vote him out. I don't want this because he is my only ally. Probability, I give it like 40%. He made perfect sense, but I'm more concerned about scenario 3. Scenario 3) they vote me out. He basically admitted I'm somewhat powerful and definitely more powerful than him. If the mafia end up starting a bandwagon against me, it will be believed, because he made me look like a godfather. I give this like 60%. Also, with any of these scenarios, I most likely end up dead. I doubt I'd be saved by a doctor, and so I will be obviously NK'd. This is a problem obviously.

Also, I am having issues figuring out how to respond to this. I would even consider me scum at this point.

[ConMan]

I want to start sign-ups for Keys to the Kingdom Mafia soon, since it looks like Werewolf is creeping towards endgame. However, I would still like a co-mod - anyone willing to take that position?

[fshfood]

Shadowrun

Spoiler:

well crap ... so I'm completely correct, but they outted themselves. So, now how to spin this. We obviously need to kill US, but she will have KrO2 protecting her.

[flarpfreak]

Shadowrun

Spoiler:

After re-reading, I just realized the lynx and US are tied for votes, I believe US, and can keep her safe at night, so I am considering voting lynx.

[Snark]

I want to start sign-ups for Keys to the Kingdom Mafia soon, since it looks like Werewolf is creeping towards endgame. However, I would still like a co-mod - anyone willing to take that position?

I'd offer but I have zero flavor knowledge. I'll sign up to play though!

[ConMan]

I want to start sign-ups for Keys to the Kingdom Mafia soon, since it looks like Werewolf is creeping towards endgame. However, I would still like a co-mod - anyone willing to take that position?

I'd offer but I have zero flavor knowledge. I'll sign up to play though!

Thanks! I am aiming for the game to be light on spoilers particularly past the first book, but I would much rather have a flavour-aware co-mod to help write flavour text and such.

[New User]

Shadowrun

Spoiler:

I believe KrO2 and UniqueScreenname, since their situation is so similar to me and eculc. It's a shame that their choice to roleclaim looks to be backfiring. Only a few hours left to deadline, and they look like the least popular players right now.

[UniqueScreenname]

Shadowrun

Spoiler:

Maybe I was a gravedigger in another life. I'm certainly only digging my own grave here. Scenario 3. I knew it.

[fshfood]

Shadowrun

Spoiler:

crap, crap, crap ... ok .. now I think I'm in trouble. I really have a sneaky suspicion that snark may have a different win condition tied to his drones. But we just lost our strongest night attacker, unless I can find spirits. I'm hoping that everything with snark is on the up-and-up, as much as scum can be.

[UniqueScreenname]

Shadowrun

Spoiler:

Hey, I'm not dead! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!1 My night action was to trace Cardboard Box's owner. I have a theory that since my MI starts with a C and KrO2's starts with a C, I should be looking for the Cs (C plural, not cesium ). Only way to test it is to do it.

[BoomFrog]

Shadowrun

Spoiler:

Ouch, mafia lynch D1 is usually a very bad sign. On the other hand scum got the most valuable info they could, the knowledge of who is a drone. (And scum got amazingly lucky to trace Kr02's MI first.) So this is still anybody's game.

Btw, Lynx, as a Rat Spirit you were the ugliest motherfucker in the room. US was only third lowest on charisma. You're both less charismatic then robots.

[lynx]

Shadowrun

Spoiler:

Ouch, mafia lynch D1 is usually a very bad sign. On the other hand scum got the most valuable info they could, the knowledge of who is a drone. (And scum got amazingly lucky to trace Kr02's MI first.) So this is still anybody's game.

Btw, Lynx, as a Rat Spirit you were the ugliest motherfucker in the room. US was only third lowest on charisma. You're both less charismatic then robots.

Shadowrun

Spoiler:

Mafia lynch may be bad for us, but Snark still has access to his drone and I also forsee him gaining a new ally tonight

But I'm worried about Snark, and I think you haven't told us the whole story BF. I wonder what exactly his win condition is, and if it's the same as ours!

Judging by the fact that there seems to be many pairs in action (if not all pairs) with the drones not knowing of their alignment, I wouldn't be surprised if in the confusion town collapses. They are all going to be suspicious of anyone outside their own little mason group, and judging by how close we came to voting US off (albeit with 3 mafia members voting and a super secret extra vote) I think if mafia can keep their cool they can take advantage of a bad situation by replacing me with someone who has been let off for the most part (KrO2, suspicion aimed at him died and he'll even have US protecting him) and bang, it's like they just killed one town/indie off in effect.

One question BF, if Snark takes KrO2 will Kr then be allowed to talk to both Otaku?

By the way, I assumed I had the lowest charisma and as soon as I saw myself tying US for votes I had resigned myself to the lynch. I wasn't expecting the super secret vote but it didn't help in the end anyway! I'll play better next time hopefully, it'd be great if I got town and didn't have to worry about pretending too much right from my first game.

I think I just need practice!

[wam]

werewolves

Spoiler:

Is anyone else finding it really frustrating watching? Its the way I now know theres no vampire (so town can still win) and just want to yell that at them.

Mad Bomber

Spoiler:

And again I make an honest slip up and will probably get lynched (see 2 of 4), although at least this time im town so it doesnt matter as much, providing i won't go bang!

[eculc]

shadowrun

Spoiler:

well, shit. I didn't get my vote in, and someone pointed it out. I'm gonna be a target tomorrow, that's for sure.

[Snark]

Shadowrun:

Spoiler:

I'm going to take control of KrO2 tonight unless I get blocked or he gets protected. If US had been killed instead of lynx, that would have given us 3 scum and 2 drones out of 10-11 people tomorrow. It would have been easy for us all to converge on a lynch target. The game would have been in the freaking bag. Maybe I shouldn't have put lynx on my scum list, but I was scared of buddying. I didn't think he'd actually be lynched. Now the real situation is going to be 2 scum and 2 drones out of 10-11 people. Not horrible. I think I'll try to keep my identity secret from KrO2 in case he gets taken back by US.

I got lucky learning KrO2's MI in the middle of D1 and getting her status as a drone outed on D1 as well.

[DaBigCheez]

Shadowrun:

Spoiler:

In retrospect, I am dumb.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

I still think it's pretty likely lynx was scum, so I'm not displeased with the lynch in that sense - but with regards to UniqueScreenname, well, as Phoenix Wright would say, OBJECTION! I have solid evidence that proves a blatant contradiction!

Of course, I didn't see it despite the fact it was staring me in the face at the time.

Simply put: I have a mason-recruit, which is similar to the type of thing US is claiming. It is a Cyber action...and it is not a Hacking action. US having a recruit action that is both Cyber and Hacking *screams* CULT to me now that I realize it - and it was my unvote that let a cult leader live another day.

Now to decide what to do about it - I don't know her matrix icon, so I can't roleblock her, but perhaps I can take matters into my own hands...*cocks pistol*

Then again, there's probably no need for that. If she discovered the Jellyfish during the day (either through herself or KrO2), that means there's not many people she could be culting during the night - she may still have found a legit matrix icon if they both have investigations, but it sounds from her claim like teamwork may be required, and there's a possibility there'll be no cult tonight. And tomorrow, it honestly shouldn't be that difficult to bring her down.

(And for the peanut gallery: Yes, feel free to laugh if I'm totally wrong about this whole thing )

[Misnomer]

Werewolf:

Spoiler:

There goes the druids... bad luck guys, I was hoping you'd get a win after all that flavour fun.

Unless the wolves are extremely unlucky with where the nks fall tonight, they have probably now won this.

[greenlover]

Werewolf

Spoiler:

Drat! Should have asked for an extension. That deadline could have very well determined the game. :/

[Snark]

Werewolves:

Spoiler:

Ok everyone listen up. Werewolves kill matt. Matt kills a werewolf. GL kills the other werewolf. What's so difficult about that?

In any case, good job GL for putting up a good fight at the end. You did us proud.

[Adam H]

Werewolves:

Spoiler:

Ok everyone listen up. Werewolves kill matt. Matt kills a werewolf. GL kills the other werewolf. What's so difficult about that?

In any case, good job GL for putting up a good fight at the end. You did us proud.

Werewolves:

Spoiler:

Gee Willikers greenlover, we set you up PERFECTLY and then you go and lose for us?!?

[KrO2]

Shadowrun

Spoiler:

If you're reading this after the game ended, this is the spoiler you've been waiting for! Probably.
I hope I did not just ruin the game for my faction. That would suck. As some people suspected, I do not have the nerve to try this as scum. Unless I'm scum now. See, I still don't know my alignment. I'm suspecting we're a cult; I'll try to have UniqueScreenname verify that if we're both alive tomorrow. The reason I claimed was that pretty much everybody seemed OK with lynching US, and I'd be next if her dying wouldn't kill me already. Claiming was a long shot. I was fully expecting to be surprised if it worked. I was defining "worked" as "keeps us alive until N2," which may or may not happen. Lots to go until then.

I'm having trouble believing that I thought that post could have actually convinced people to vote for me instead of US. Had I been thinking more Machiavellianly, I should of course have claimed that I was the controller, but she was somehow important enough for me to claim for. They might have figured out that it was actually her, but at least I would have kept plausible deniability.

If I had thought of it, I should have voted Cameroni instead of lynx, since more people would go along with it and nobody would really speak up for him. And it would be less bad if I'm wrong. As it is, we pretty much lynched lynx on the strength of my recommendation, so now I'm just hoping I was right. My vote against him was legitimate, but he's probably not scum. The prior probability is too low to be confident of a Day 1 lynch. I don't trust my radar enough to be comfortable with this, but now I've got a lot of credibility on the line, so....

[Adam H]

Avengers:

Spoiler:

Again, I'm really not sure I should say how limited my kill is. For now, assume I only have one left and must use it today.

Hopefully this came across as really powerful townie trying to hide how powerful he is. Come on, NK! Hit me with your best shot!

For popcorn-munchers: I am ironman, I have 65 energy left. When I run out, I die. Day kills use up 20 energy, being attacked uses up 30 energy, and each night uses up 10 energy.

The question is, should I kill 3 times today and hope I absorb the NK as my encore?

[CaptainFinglass]

Werewolves

Spoiler:

Ah well. It was so fun inserting a random vampire in there. Ah well. I'd love to see how this turns out now.

[greenlover]

Avengers:

Spoiler:

...Did SoC just seriously claim in thread that he just falseclaimed in thread? That...yeah. If he's town, its pretty unfortunate that that can be taken the wrong way. If he's mafia...wow. Just wow.

[t1mm01994]

Avengers

Spoiler:

Do ALL the falseclaims! I'll die anyway!

[[username]]

Puella Magi Madoka:

Spoiler:

I am playing this game!
How about username?

[username] is playing too,
But [username] doesn't do rhyming. Or rhythm.

[wam]

avengers

Spoiler:

Well this could be interesting when tim doesn't die the first time then gets lynched. It also means I won't know what happened last night until I read spoilers, tim controls ths kill. Th roleblock everything was me, probably should have used it at a better time, but my thought was to give us a leg up after the first two days. I also didn't realise that the roleblook would be done by the mod in public. I was hoping that it would be just said as if a normal roleblock had been done, giving me great opportunities to to spread wine. Also the kill will then be handed down to one of the remaining scum, hopefully me, as I don't trust the others to not be traitors.

Tim is also makes it 3/3 teamates i have bussed in this game. To be fair I haven't been left with many options.

[wam]

mad bomber

Spoiler:

I have manged to get hammared in just over 48 hours in day one of a newbie game. Which I think is impressive! To bad im town, I might even be the bomb!

[UniqueScreenname]

Mad Bomber

Spoiler:

I think my strategy for this is gonna be much less to lynch the bomber and more to survive to day 6. Gunning for one particular person is a dead giveaway, so I'll probably go with the flow. Worked so far. First mafia game I've played where I've gone through the first day without being FoS'd. Ironic, since I actually am the bad guy this time

[Deva]

Puella Madoka Magica Mafia

Spoiler:

For you observers:

You had a dream. You were pacing on a long checkered orthogonal corridor, which on further look, isn't orthogonal after all. The passage twists like a spiral just behind you, and the passage in front of you materializes bit by bit, like modules of an origami hurriedly being built. Fortunately, just beyond this endless corridor is a door labelled "EXIT". Its lock seemed intricate, but the door opened anyway.
Beyond this ominous door was an equally ominous sight, but it's too dark to see...

You are Kaname Madoka, an ordinary eighth-grader with a loving family and a helpful circle of friends.

You are a member of the Town Alignment.
You win when all anti-town players are defeated.

Guessed that right. Was the easiest, though. And for the moderator/observers,

Nipa--*

Magical Girl Mikuru