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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Nyarlathotep » Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:47 am UTC

. does anyone know where I can get this stuff online? :\ like good Youtube or Stage6 links? Please?

(I can't get TV at all where I am)
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Belial » Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:55 pm UTC

I've mostly been torrenting them from http://www.isohunt.com

Most of nickelodeon's shows have been pulled from Youtube.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Sriad » Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:08 pm UTC

http://www.veoh.com/ has a number of episodes, including the last two.

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby cephalopod9 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:13 am UTC

I love how the characters have aged. That is so rare in cartoons.
(it is on now, and I am missing it, because someone in my dorm lost the key to the t.v. room.)
Even (if not more so) in serious cartoons, (anime, Groening, and such), characters tend to be pretty static, but here they've changed clothes, hair and that. It still kind of sticks with the wearing the same thing everyday, but at the same time there's an apparant level of change.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Gadren » Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:01 am UTC

Just watched "The Headband," and I gotta say that it was definitely up there on my list of favorite episodes. It did a great job of showing the effects of propaganda, a cult of personality, and rabid nationalism on the society -- without beating you over the head with it, IMHO.

And, of course, Aang and Katara dancing was cute (and caused hordes of "Avatards" to foam at the mouth).

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Bakemaster » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:29 am UTC

I have finally decided I need to watch this show, after talking to some more friends who happened to bring it up and talk about how awesome it was.

And it is really disconcerting to see a page of posts 90% enclosed in spoiler boxes.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Jesse » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:14 pm UTC

That is because they are discussing the new seaons, and I'm not quite caught up yet.

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Bakemaster » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:29 pm UTC

Oh, I know why, just commenting on its eerieness.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Okita » Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:50 am UTC

It amuses me that the voice actor for Aang is 14 while the voice actress for Katara is 19. Very different ages for two characters who have a love sub-plotline.

Edit:

Anyone seen the chibi-Avatar short thingies? I have to say those are the most hilariously awesome things ever.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=znKaZgdknFc
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Bakemaster » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:02 am UTC

I don't like the processing they put the dialogue through. It's too flat. Some of the voice actors are pretty good, the animation is good, and the silliness is good. While the world/setting is somewhat original, the overall plot doesn't seem terribly interesting. The characters are well done so far. I'm on the fifth episode and I will keep watching.

And every now and then I laugh out loud, so that's good.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Geekthras » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:08 am UTC

Nnnng want see 3.3! Pretty awesome show, though in a recent poll, 3% of people said they watched it, 14% said they'd never heard of it, 80% said "No, I don't watch it thankyouverymuch now let me go watch things that aren't that because I don't watch it," and 6% said told me that I don't understand statistics.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby cephalopod9 » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:15 am UTC

Okita wrote:It amuses me that the voice actor for Aang is 14 while the voice actress for Katara is 19. Very different ages for two characters who have a love sub-plotline.

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Anyone seen the chibi-Avatar short thingies? I have to say those are the most hilariously awesome things ever.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=znKaZgdknFc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=K818peBbWIc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yn-NYxM8iFg
"Tiny Zuko is soooooo cute!"
I wonder how many of those they are going to make.

How old is Katara supposed to be?
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Okita » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:18 am UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:
Okita wrote:It amuses me that the voice actor for Aang is 14 while the voice actress for Katara is 19. Very different ages for two characters who have a love sub-plotline.

Edit:

Anyone seen the chibi-Avatar short thingies? I have to say those are the most hilariously awesome things ever.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=znKaZgdknFc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=K818peBbWIc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yn-NYxM8iFg
"Tiny Zuko is soooooo cute!"
I wonder how many of those they are going to make.

How old is Katara supposed to be?


Katara is supposed to be around 14? Aang is 12 (112 technically).

But since they've done one at the end of each episode....perhaps all season 'cept for the finale? That would be luvverly.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Bakemaster » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:49 am UTC

Okay, I just saw the fifth episode and I am sold. Boomer is a forum mod. Lettuce leaf.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Belial » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:05 am UTC

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Swordfish » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:13 am UTC

My Cabbages!

Your discussion of leafy vegetables reminded me of that. I actually think that Episode 5 is the first time that happens.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Geekthras » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:48 pm UTC

My CABBAGES!

Off with their heads! One head for each cabbage!

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Gadren » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:21 pm UTC

Heh -- Geekthras, your avatar reminds me (for some reason) of this:

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby une see » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:29 am UTC

Gadren wrote:Heh -- Geekthras, your avatar reminds me (for some reason) of this:

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I am highly intrigued.

(Sokka porn???)

Meanwhile, the new episode (The Painted Lady) was good, I thought, but

Spoiler:
I kind of hate it when Katara gets all sanctimonious on everyone. She really doesn't think things through when she decides that she has to help someone (in other words, loses her head since she's relying solely on her heart), and although it's admirable that she's so caring, they do have a bigger mission that she jeopardizes every time she does this.

What I want to know is, when will Aang start learning firebending? And who will he be learning from? Will Jeong Jeong be making another appearance? Can't wait for the next episode.


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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Gadren » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:36 am UTC

Fix'd!

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Geekthras » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:37 am UTC

As unlikely as it is,
Spoiler:
I would vote for Iroh jailbreak! He would be a great teacher and judging from Crossroads of Destiny, he'd probably be happy help.


Also, I used imageshack: Image. Awesome, that's one of my favorite episodes.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Jesse » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:13 am UTC

Spoiler:
Me and Jordan were talking, and while the episodes have been okay so far, don't they all seem a little bit filler-ish? Like they'd fit more into the atmosphere of the first season?

We are also betting on the mid-season double episode being the day of Black Sun, everything going horribly wrong and then the season finale being the day of the comet.

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Belial » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:10 am UTC

Oh gods, new episode so goood....everything is fantastic...totally take back everything I've ever said about the new season....
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby kcr » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:56 am UTC

Iroh is SO BADASS.

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Geekthras » Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:41 am UTC

YES He is awesome.
Spoiler:
Haha, he might not need much of a rescue.. just beat up EVERYONE, River Tam style.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Swordfish » Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:19 am UTC

Spoiler:
Iroh is ready to kick some ass! I also like how they're going to do bit more with the order of the white lotus now. I'm not sure what to think about half of next week's episode, but my roommate is sold on it simply because of Azula in a bathing suit.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Jesse » Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:31 am UTC

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Gadren » Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:57 am UTC

It's currently on VeohTV -- that's what I use to watch the episodes.

Very good episode, by the way!
Spoiler:
The White Lotus is something I was hoping for -- and it's nice to see it have a comeback.

It's also quite nice to have a Sokka episode. He really does get the short end of the stick (well, except for Toph who isn't focused on nearly enough... by the way, Toph was very cute! Very fun to see her feelings toward Sokka, and her giddy excitement about bending "space earth.")

Hopefully next episode we'll get to see Iroh bring the beatdown on that prison guard. :twisted:

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Jesse » Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:45 am UTC

Yeah, I found it. Waiting for this customer to leave so I can finish watching it.

EDIT: Watched, and amazing. Finally this season is kicking off.

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Okita » Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:08 pm UTC

Swordfish wrote:
Spoiler:
Iroh is ready to kick some ass! I also like how they're going to do bit more with the order of the white lotus now. I'm not sure what to think about half of next week's episode, but my roommate is sold on it simply because of Azula in a bathing suit.


Seems like there always is a "beach" episode...

That said:
Spoiler:
While Iroh is indeed full of badassery, I kinda wished he had used his superior wily old guy persuasion and diplomacy skills to secretly finds allies amongst fellow prisoners/ prison guards. Unrealistic I guess since he's by himself but more to his style. He'd be like a Vetinari-like person having contacts everywhere reporting back to him in his cell. :P

Also, Sokka definitely needs more air-time. Just sayin' is all.

Also, White Lotus Society = awesome.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Bakemaster » Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:14 pm UTC

Okay, I've been watching a few episodes every other night or so, and am most of the way through the second season. The show has gotten better as it went along, and I don't think it's just that it's growing on me. The fight choreography is fantastic and the plot is very good. I am still somewhat put off by some of the voice acting, Zuko in particular. Iro and Toph are aweseomesauce. I can't wait until I catch up and can go through the thread opening the spoiler tags.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby cephalopod9 » Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:04 pm UTC

Spoiler:
Iroh in jail is so sad! It's good to see he's not giving into it tho'. How much time has gone by? I wonder if there's a timeline somewhere on the interwebs.
It looks like there setting up for the gAang and Iroh to meet up... what's it going to do to Zuko if Iroh is Aang's teacher? ooh, How much longer until we find out just what the White Lotus society is? (did I say that right?)

Did they ever explain exactly how bending works? I think they've made it clear that it's not genetic.
Also, water bending has healing, fire bending has lightning, and earth bending has metal bending, does air bending have a special subset?
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Gadren » Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:29 pm UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:Did they ever explain exactly how bending works? I think they've made it clear that it's not genetic.
Also, water bending has healing, fire bending has lightning, and earth bending has metal bending, does air bending have a special subset?


Well, do we know it's not genetic? I mean, there's got to be something to the fact that Sokka simply cannot bend while Katara can. Maybe they got different genes or something. The only info for the origins of bending we have sound like legends, with the Airbenders learning it from the flying bison, the Earthbenders learning it from badger-moles (Toph mentioned this last episode, so that could explain her amazing skill -- she went straight to the source), and the Waterbenders learning it from the moon. It's speculated, but not stated, that the Firebenders learned it from the sun.

As for the "special subset," I don't think so, although this might be by design -- airbending is more about wit and evasion than having a "secret weapon."

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Geekthras » Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:54 pm UTC

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Bakemaster » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:05 am UTC

Don't forget about the plant bender in the swamp and the sand benders in the desert.

As far as "explaining" bending it seems to be a combination of martial art forms and natural aptitude. It could be compared to musical training and talent. Some people are tone-deaf and some people have perfect pitch. Is it genetic? Who knows? But even a genius needs some amount of training.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Swordfish » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:35 am UTC

Bakemaster wrote:Don't forget about the plant bender in the swamp and the sand benders in the desert.


Well I don't see a difference between sand and earth, after all, sand is just really really tiny rock. And the "plant benders" explained it as bending the water in the plants I believe, so I really wouldn't consider that an extra ability, I'd say they're just taking advantage of the physical properties of the plants.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Geekthras » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:36 am UTC

Yes, and metal is refined earth, lightning is really concentrated fire, and healing is just awesome.

So yeah, that doesn't work.

Iroh is so ready to kick ass now. While munching on bread.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Okita » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:41 am UTC

The wiki claims that part of it is in fact a combination of spirituality and genetics. The citation is from a convention which would make sense because they would have to ask the writers to get that kind of info.

Also....yes, sandbending is just earthbending while the swamp people are just bending the water in the plants. The waterbending is driven home in that the Swamp Skiing short bit thingy.

And everyone knows bread is awesome. Iroh eats bread, so should you.

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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Ethereal » Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:40 pm UTC

Yea, that episode was great, finishing with another great cliffhanger.
But one thing bugs me. How DARE they "secretly" advertise nickelodeon in avatar.
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Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Postby Bakemaster » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:19 am UTC

I'm just saying, if you're going to consider lightning, metal and healing as specialized subsets, you have to do the same thing with sand and plants. It's not like they make sense overall—metal is not rock, even though some alloys have rock in them (like carbon in steel). Lightning is not fire; there's no combustion, only ionization. Toph was severely out of her element in the desert, despite being a genius earthbender, and only one of the swamp guys was ever shown bending more than plain water. Healing could be explained by the human body being made up largely of water, but we're just grasping at straws now. It's a cartoon show. If it were produced by Tolkein we could expect a coherent system that was fully explained, but it's not.
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