1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mathrec » Thu May 16, 2013 2:49 pm UTC

Rule110 wrote:...The Alt-Text

Once upon a morning cheery, while I pondered, slightly bleary
Over many a new webcomic full of dreary trendy wit,
Suddenly with brief foreboding I beheld an image loading -
'T'was a small JPEG decoding on my panel bit by bit.
Just a monochrome depiction taking shape there bit by bit.
I thought, 'What's the point of it?'
Spoiler:
For the frame projected merely two figures arranged austerely,
Seated rather cavalierly on some lonesome barren spit.
Eagerly I sought for meaning in their placid restful leaning,
Yet that earnest mental gleaning explicated not a whit; -
''Tis a caption missing,' said I, comprehending not a whit,
'Should explain wherefore they sit.'

Not inclined to whine or curse it, I intended to disperse it
But my mouse chanced to traverse it and up popped a tiny chit:
An alt-text, I saw, not fearing to expect the purpose clearing
By the letters there appearing like a scroll of holy writ.
Rapt I read the words inscribed there, terrible as holy writ.
And they spelt out: 'Wait for it.'

Wait for it? I sat and pondered while my morbid fancies wandered
Into strange phantasmagoric places few ever admit.
What grim portent was it sending; was 'it' coming soon, or ending?
Some catastrophe impending, all our mortal lives forfeit?
Was the Judgment Day upon us, holding every soul forfeit?
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Anon my mania deflated and it seemed my fears abated.
(None of us knows what is fated, and to fate we all submit.)
Then my gaze suddenly lifted, for like desert sands that drifted,
The comic page had shifted, though no refresh I'd transmit.
Lo! The figures changed position, with no page refresh transmit.
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Castles, rivers, swimming, scaffold, rising sea: all left me baffled,
As pix flowed in slow succession like a garment being knit.
Though my kenning should be gaining with each frame, 'twere no explaining
Every question still remaining: 'What's it mean, how does it fit?
Where's it going, what's the point, who are these folks, how's it all fit?'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

No surcease from my reflecting stopped the questions interjecting:
'Is the artist now expecting? Or is it his family's split?
Is it all 'bout global warming? Is it cancer lesions swarming?
I pray you, be more informing! All these mysteries remit.
For my peace of mind and sanity, the mysteries remit.'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

'Your coyness is most unpleasing. I won't wait,' I shouted, wheezing -
'All these pictures are just teasing, no intention to commit.
Black stick figure and sand castle, images so trite and facile
They're not worth near this much hassle. Leave my monitor unlit.
Take thy comic off my browser; leave my monitor unlit!'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'
And the alt-text, ne'er updating, still is waiting, still is waiting
As each new frame looms, relating tick by tick the drawn-out skit.
I can but, through days ensuing, ponder on my soul's undoing,
The one hope for my renewing being that I somehow quit
Whilst the alt-text whispers softly that I'm doomed never to quit.
I can only... wait for it.

Awesome. Poe's original was masterful, and filking it well is quite a feat. BRAVO.

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Since I discovered your Sudoku of the Day, I'm losing what valuable little time I have left after OTT, coma and Outside responsibilities (yes, those are in descending order of priority) to them.
12 May: easy to moderate, sure... I spent hours solving that one...

OK. That's not fair on my part. About four years ago I programmed my server to generate a puzzle once per day. Remember, there will always be more. You don't have to solve them.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sciscitor » Thu May 16, 2013 2:51 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:It could be the OTCR...
I'm just saying the speed at which it moves, and the conversations had in it it feel less forumy, and more chatroomy.

You know, Google Wave would have totally worked with this. All those chats, songtexts, graphs, diagrams, collaborations, link collections, audio files, video links etc... just the use case for it.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Thu May 16, 2013 2:51 pm UTC

Image thanks yappobiscuits

Molpy
Spoiler:
Swein wrote:
Latent22 wrote:Here is the new molpy. it looks like it is moving sideways slightly

molpy.gif


It's got a tail! Or is it it's little raptor head held high while carefully backing away from the flying raptor?

Or is it remote controlled? What's Black Hat up to? Or...
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Gah I don't like this attachment system, where quoting the attachment doesn't show the image. Hence the image from the direct link, and the spoilered attachment.
...I might just go back to Poland.

I hope there was lots of dramatic arm waving around see-through monitors to enhance this :P
incidentally, I think the image (spoiler)attachment method works well


Replies to RobIrr (BlitzGirl), cellocqw (rmcurtis), lmib1964 (azule)
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RobIrr wrote:Image
I wish I had something capable of printing bigger! I may have to split it up to make a bigger one for the wall..

Glancing around my room at all the othercomics on the wall, this would make a nice addition... ~turns printer on~

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rmcurtis wrote:Hi everybody. I'm de-lurking after following this thread since the beginning. I have to say, it's been very entertaining. I wish I had the free time to participate, but I don't.

[snip...]

--Ryan

PS - I'm in Seattle, and surprised to see how many posters here are in the Seattle area. Hi to you all.


But are you ... Coma-less in Seattle? :mrgreen:

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lmjb1964 wrote:Still trying to sriracha. You guys are posting too much cool stuff, and too many awfulesome puns. Here are some random responses:
Azule, congrats on the baby! We seem to be quite the fertile bunch here.

It wasn't one of you, I swear! *remembers biology* Oh, nevermind. And Thanks!!
P.S. I like "awfulesome". :D or is it "awefulsome"? :)

Hmm, awfulsome? No, that doesn't look right. Awefulsome? That looks a little better. Maybe it just needs the strikeout text: awfulesome.

I vote for awfulsome. "That's quite some awful you have there. Awesome!"


Trebuchets!
Spoiler:
BlitzGirl wrote:He's tipped that one stick with the sticky-outy part on it a bit more upright:

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Definitely the remains of a trebuchet. But who? where? when? why? how?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jjjdavidson » Thu May 16, 2013 2:57 pm UTC

Rule110 wrote:
yappobiscuits wrote:… but once the OTT sucks you in, there's no getting out…

Indeed.

The Alt-Text

Once upon a morning cheery, while I pondered, slightly bleary
Over many a new webcomic full of dreary trendy wit,

Spoiler:
Suddenly with brief foreboding I beheld an image loading -
'T'was a small JPEG decoding on my panel bit by bit.
Just a monochrome depiction taking shape there bit by bit.
I thought, 'What's the point of it?'

For the frame projected merely two figures arranged austerely,
Seated rather cavalierly on some lonesome barren spit.
Eagerly I sought for meaning in their placid restful leaning,
Yet that earnest mental gleaning explicated not a whit; -
''Tis a caption missing,' said I, comprehending not a whit,
'Should explain wherefore they sit.'

Not inclined to whine or curse it, I intended to disperse it
But my mouse chanced to traverse it and up popped a tiny chit:
An alt-text, I saw, not fearing to expect the purpose clearing
By the letters there appearing like a scroll of holy writ.
Rapt I read the words inscribed there, terrible as holy writ.
And they spelt out: 'Wait for it.'

Wait for it? I sat and pondered while my morbid fancies wandered
Into strange phantasmagoric places few ever admit.
What grim portent was it sending; was 'it' coming soon, or ending?
Some catastrophe impending, all our mortal lives forfeit?
Was the Judgment Day upon us, holding every soul forfeit?
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Anon my mania deflated and it seemed my fears abated.
(None of us knows what is fated, and to fate we all submit.)
Then my gaze suddenly lifted, for like desert sands that drifted,
The comic page had shifted, though no refresh I'd transmit.
Lo! The figures changed position, with no page refresh transmit.
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Castles, rivers, swimming, scaffold, rising sea: all left me baffled,
As pix flowed in slow succession like a garment being knit.
Though my kenning should be gaining with each frame, 'twere no explaining
Every question still remaining: 'What's it mean, how does it fit?
Where's it going, what's the point, who are these folks, how's it all fit?'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

No surcease from my reflecting stopped the questions interjecting:
'Is the artist now expecting? Or is it his family's split?
Is it all 'bout global warming? Is it cancer lesions swarming?
I pray you, be more informing! All these mysteries remit.
For my peace of mind and sanity, the mysteries remit.'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

'Your coyness is most unpleasing. I won't wait,' I shouted, wheezing -
'All these pictures are just teasing, no intention to commit.
Black stick figure and sand castle, images so trite and facile
They're not worth near this much hassle. Leave my monitor unlit.
Take thy comic off my browser; leave my monitor unlit!'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

And the alt-text, ne'er updating, still is waiting, still is waiting
As each new frame looms, relating tick by tick the drawn-out skit.
I can but, through days ensuing, ponder on my soul's undoing,
The one hope for my renewing being that I somehow quit
Whilst the alt-text whispers softly that I'm doomed never to quit.
I can only... wait for it.

This. Is. Absolutely. Amazing. You've captured so much of the tone of the original and so much of the tone of the OTT. I've got to see my wife's face when she reads this. Many, many thanks for the effort I know went into this.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 3:00 pm UTC

CAMPONG...
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Ah, so that was what it was, an extinguished campfire...
Still no explanation for the molpy, though.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Thu May 16, 2013 3:01 pm UTC

htom wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:He's tipped that one stick with the sticky-outy part on it a bit more upright:

TipStick.gif
download/file.php?id=36354


Is he playing with the remains of a trebuchet?


OK, did this blow anyone else's mind? Was there an ancient Cuegan building a sandcastle at that very spot before the Sea¹ receded and left it a vegetable² riverland... Will there be a future Cuegan who goes on a long trek only to discover our Cuegan's trebuchet remains someday? :shock:

¹ : big
² : vegetation + veritable = vegetable!

edit: blindposted this before I saw the newpix right before it.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Thu May 16, 2013 3:01 pm UTC

It was a campfire!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ElWanderer » Thu May 16, 2013 3:02 pm UTC

There are Others! *insert Lost music*
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby moody7277 » Thu May 16, 2013 3:03 pm UTC

mscha wrote:CAMPONG...
Image

Ah, so that was what it was, an extinguished campfire...
Still no explanation for the molpy, though.


Oooooh...creepy.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 3:05 pm UTC

Rule110 wrote:The Alt-Text
(...)
I can only... wait for it.

Wow... Amazing.
The level of creativity in the OTT just keeps surprising me.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 3:07 pm UTC

moody7277 wrote:
mscha wrote:CAMPONG...
Image

Ah, so that was what it was, an extinguished campfire...
Still no explanation for the molpy, though.


Oooooh...creepy.

There are people in the hills? The hills have EYES! Run, Cugan, Run!

Alternativly, there are others who have made this trek before, and Cuegan are merely another step in the long line of Rivertrekkers, a line that recedes into the distant past, and which shall last until the end of time.
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Postby ttscp » Thu May 16, 2013 3:07 pm UTC

Thoughts on the OTC and the nature of Story

I've been thinking about what it means for the OTC if it is a story. (Not that it has to be; I am biased to think in stories because I am a storyteller, but that's another story.) Story and plot are closely connected so I mix the two concepts in my thinking a lot.

A story has an ending and it's generally pointed toward that ending from the very first moment. A story has a genre. I mean more than western, romance, science fiction; I mean comedy, horror, love story, drama.

Beginning/middle/end and a prediction.

The people in Hollywood will tell you that a story has plot points, two of them. What they mean is that a story has a beginning, middle and ending. I disagree with the Hollywood people, especially when they start talking about Joseph Cambell (one of the reasons that I am not a Hollywood storyteller) but not really about the beginning/middle/end bit.

I'm guessing that the sandcastle frames were the beginning. They set the scene, introduced Cueball and Megan and the mysterious La Petite, let us know something about the world (river small, sea big), and introduced the problem the "sea is rising." (I imagine that last in the voice of chicken little, but that's another digression.)

We fade out and in (very Hollywood) to the river trek and shortly after that Megan says, "Yeah. But that's what the first part of not ending looks like." (Many thanks to all of you who analyze (overanalyze?) and document the OTC, I used the wiki for this one.) That could be a meta comment, indicating the first plot point at the end of the beginning. (And then again it could just be finishing the exchange: Megan - "Maybe the sea doesn't end," Cueball - "We haven't walked very far.", I too have been known to overanalyze.)

The Hollywood "rule" for plot points is 30 pages to the first, 60 pages to the second, 30 pages to the end. A page a minute means a two hour movie. It gets cut in editing and these are only rough markers, but it will do for my analysis.

One quarter of the story is the beginning. If that is true, then the OTC may end somewhere between 881*4 ("Bye") and 1006*4 ("The first part of not ending"). Between 3,524 and 4,024 frames the OTC will end.

Almost every prediction we make about the OTC has been wrong, so feel free to take this with a grain of semencancercaffienebabies.

Genre or not?

In spite of the lurking molpy, I don't think this is a horror comic. Randall just doesn't seem to write that kind of stuff and there haven't been the requisite small scares to get us in the right emotional state for the bigger ones.

Comedy is a possibility, because the OTC is a (wait for it), "comic", but I really think it's going to have a more serious ending. This is more intuition than strong reasoning so feel free to disagree with me. (I know you will, so I feel better if I give you permission.) There haven't been a lot of comic moments in the comic. (There have been in the OTT, however; good thing I work at home otherwise my coworkers would be worried about me, too.)

Romantic is another possibility. Randall writes the most romantic stick characters I know (insert link to whirling Megan slowing down the world to spend a little more time with Cueball). But I don't see how the beginning points to romance. He did bring her berries, though, so maybe I'm wrong.

Drama is the best possibility I think, but, again, I don't see much set up for it.

Lastly, there is the strong possibility that Randall is just messing with our heads, and it will go on until he gets tired of it, or we stop being messed with, or he has finally gotten into the head of everyone in the world.

Ending

The more I think about this, the less sure I am of any conclusions. I don't even know if this is a story, it has some elements of one, but others defy the conventions. I don't know whether it will loop or end or (in theory) go on forever.

I figured I'd offer my thoughts and see what anyone else on this (intelligent, articulate and above all handsome) OTT had to offer.

Ouch. The latest ONG, "I found a campsite", is also eligible to be a plot point, and may point us toward horror. The GLR always manages to confound (ninja) my thoughts as soon as I get them articulated.

> next WARNING for first time readers and blitzers: the link takes you farther along in the thread and may reveal information you don't want to know...yet.

Edit: fixed Randall world domination sentence.
ETA2: added navigation
ETA3: next spoiler information
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 3:08 pm UTC

ElWanderer wrote:There are Others! *insert Lost music*

I wonder if they'll find a hatch soon.

(I know, not new, been said a hundred times before, but if the OTC ends with just as many unresolved mysteries as Lost, I'm gonna be seriously pissed.)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby richP » Thu May 16, 2013 3:08 pm UTC

XonqNopp wrote:BerrieONG!
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mikro2nd wrote:I predict they're going to build something with those sticks/planks that Cueball found - he's just laying out his idea to Megan right now.

Not quite...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 3:10 pm UTC

I'd guess that at this point, the only way the OTC could end in comedy is if it were a brick Joke.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 3:12 pm UTC

Quick update from the Molpy Monitor.
No reported sightings since Cueball returned to the tree⁴.
Also, no changes during the time that Cueball wandered off:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Thu May 16, 2013 3:15 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
ElWanderer wrote:There are Others! *insert Lost music*

I wonder if they'll find a hatch soon.

(I know, not new, been said a hundred times before, but if the OTC ends with just as many unresolved mysteries as Lost, I'm gonna be seriously pissed.)


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Flado » Thu May 16, 2013 3:16 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby akacat » Thu May 16, 2013 3:16 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
mathrec wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:I must have a serious Sudoku addiction... I did the puzzle anyway... Even though it wasn't a real puzzle......help...
How to tell if you need help with your sudoku addiction

Answer alert:
Spoiler:
¿ǝɯıʇ ɟo ǝʇsɐʍ ǝɟɐs ɐ ʇı sI?
Hmm, I'm not sure I'm the best person to judge that. After all, I'm apparently under the impression that it's normal to hang out in the OTT. ;)


Really-really a spoiler, because I don't know how to upside-down-backwards type:

Spoiler:
The answer I got is "Is it a safe waste of some time".

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 3:17 pm UTC

mathrec wrote:
mscha wrote:
Spoiler:
mathrec wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:I must have a serious Sudoku addiction... I did the puzzle anyway... Even though it wasn't a real puzzle......help...
How to tell if you need help with your sudoku addiction

Speaking of Sudoku additions: I hate you.
Since I discovered your Sudoku of the Day, I'm losing what valuable little time I have left after OTT, coma and Outside responsibilities (yes, those are in descending order of priority) to them.
12 May: easy to moderate, sure... I spent hours solving that one...

OK. That's not fair on my part. About four years ago I programmed my server to generate a puzzle once per day. [i]Remember, there will always be more.

Those Sudokus are generated automatically and it's all running unattended? Consider me impressed! :o

mathrec wrote:You don't have to solve them.

Sorry, no can do. If an interesting Sudoku (one that's nonstandard and requires some actual brain crunching instead of pretty much filling it in on autopilot) crosses my path, I can't help myself.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby akacat » Thu May 16, 2013 3:20 pm UTC

(Is this a double-post? There's at least one post in between, so I guess not?)

mathrec wrote:The Alt-Text

Once upon a morning cheery, while I pondered, slightly bleary
Over many a new webcomic full of dreary trendy wit,
Suddenly with brief foreboding I beheld an image loading -
'T'was a small JPEG decoding on my panel bit by bit.
Just a monochrome depiction taking shape there bit by bit.
I thought, 'What's the point of it?'
Spoiler:
For the frame projected merely two figures arranged austerely,
Seated rather cavalierly on some lonesome barren spit.
Eagerly I sought for meaning in their placid restful leaning,
Yet that earnest mental gleaning explicated not a whit; -
''Tis a caption missing,' said I, comprehending not a whit,
'Should explain wherefore they sit.'

Not inclined to whine or curse it, I intended to disperse it
But my mouse chanced to traverse it and up popped a tiny chit:
An alt-text, I saw, not fearing to expect the purpose clearing
By the letters there appearing like a scroll of holy writ.
Rapt I read the words inscribed there, terrible as holy writ.
And they spelt out: 'Wait for it.'

Wait for it? I sat and pondered while my morbid fancies wandered
Into strange phantasmagoric places few ever admit.
What grim portent was it sending; was 'it' coming soon, or ending?
Some catastrophe impending, all our mortal lives forfeit?
Was the Judgment Day upon us, holding every soul forfeit?
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Anon my mania deflated and it seemed my fears abated.
(None of us knows what is fated, and to fate we all submit.)
Then my gaze suddenly lifted, for like desert sands that drifted,
The comic page had shifted, though no refresh I'd transmit.
Lo! The figures changed position, with no page refresh transmit.
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Castles, rivers, swimming, scaffold, rising sea: all left me baffled,
As pix flowed in slow succession like a garment being knit.
Though my kenning should be gaining with each frame, 'twere no explaining
Every question still remaining: 'What's it mean, how does it fit?
Where's it going, what's the point, who are these folks, how's it all fit?'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

No surcease from my reflecting stopped the questions interjecting:
'Is the artist now expecting? Or is it his family's split?
Is it all 'bout global warming? Is it cancer lesions swarming?
I pray you, be more informing! All these mysteries remit.
For my peace of mind and sanity, the mysteries remit.'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

'Your coyness is most unpleasing. I won't wait,' I shouted, wheezing -
'All these pictures are just teasing, no intention to commit.
Black stick figure and sand castle, images so trite and facile
They're not worth near this much hassle. Leave my monitor unlit.
Take thy comic off my browser; leave my monitor unlit!'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'And the alt-text, ne'er updating, still is waiting, still is waiting
As each new frame looms, relating tick by tick the drawn-out skit.
I can but, through days ensuing, ponder on my soul's undoing,
The one hope for my renewing being that I somehow quit
Whilst the alt-text whispers softly that I'm doomed never to quit.
I can only... wait for it.[/color]

This is brilliant!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Thu May 16, 2013 3:21 pm UTC

mathrec wrote:
Rule110 wrote:...The Alt-Text

Once upon a morning cheery, while I pondered, slightly bleary
Over many a new webcomic full of dreary trendy wit,
Suddenly with brief foreboding I beheld an image loading -
'T'was a small JPEG decoding on my panel bit by bit.
Just a monochrome depiction taking shape there bit by bit.
I thought, 'What's the point of it?'
Spoiler:
For the frame projected merely two figures arranged austerely,
Seated rather cavalierly on some lonesome barren spit.
Eagerly I sought for meaning in their placid restful leaning,
Yet that earnest mental gleaning explicated not a whit; -
''Tis a caption missing,' said I, comprehending not a whit,
'Should explain wherefore they sit.'

Not inclined to whine or curse it, I intended to disperse it
But my mouse chanced to traverse it and up popped a tiny chit:
An alt-text, I saw, not fearing to expect the purpose clearing
By the letters there appearing like a scroll of holy writ.
Rapt I read the words inscribed there, terrible as holy writ.
And they spelt out: 'Wait for it.'

Wait for it? I sat and pondered while my morbid fancies wandered
Into strange phantasmagoric places few ever admit.
What grim portent was it sending; was 'it' coming soon, or ending?
Some catastrophe impending, all our mortal lives forfeit?
Was the Judgment Day upon us, holding every soul forfeit?
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Anon my mania deflated and it seemed my fears abated.
(None of us knows what is fated, and to fate we all submit.)
Then my gaze suddenly lifted, for like desert sands that drifted,
The comic page had shifted, though no refresh I'd transmit.
Lo! The figures changed position, with no page refresh transmit.
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Castles, rivers, swimming, scaffold, rising sea: all left me baffled,
As pix flowed in slow succession like a garment being knit.
Though my kenning should be gaining with each frame, 'twere no explaining
Every question still remaining: 'What's it mean, how does it fit?
Where's it going, what's the point, who are these folks, how's it all fit?'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

No surcease from my reflecting stopped the questions interjecting:
'Is the artist now expecting? Or is it his family's split?
Is it all 'bout global warming? Is it cancer lesions swarming?
I pray you, be more informing! All these mysteries remit.
For my peace of mind and sanity, the mysteries remit.'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

'Your coyness is most unpleasing. I won't wait,' I shouted, wheezing -
'All these pictures are just teasing, no intention to commit.
Black stick figure and sand castle, images so trite and facile
They're not worth near this much hassle. Leave my monitor unlit.
Take thy comic off my browser; leave my monitor unlit!'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'
And the alt-text, ne'er updating, still is waiting, still is waiting
As each new frame looms, relating tick by tick the drawn-out skit.
I can but, through days ensuing, ponder on my soul's undoing,
The one hope for my renewing being that I somehow quit
Whilst the alt-text whispers softly that I'm doomed never to quit.
I can only... wait for it.

Awesome. Poe's original was masterful, and filking it well is quite a feat. BRAVO.


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Re: Lurking Molpy's for 600, Alex

Postby fatness » Thu May 16, 2013 3:25 pm UTC

ttscp wrote:Thoughts on the OTC and the nature of Story {...}

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Re: Lurking Molpy's for 600, Alex

Postby Kieryn » Thu May 16, 2013 3:25 pm UTC

ttscp wrote:Thoughts on the OTC and the nature of Story
Spoiler:
I've been thinking about what it means for the OTC if it is a story. (Not that it has to be; I am biased to think in stories because I am a storyteller, but that's another story.) Story and plot are closely connected so I mix the two concepts in my thinking a lot.

A story has an ending and it's generally pointed toward that ending from the very first moment. A story has a genre. I mean more than western, romance, science fiction; I mean comedy, horror, love story, drama.

Beginning/middle/end and a prediction.

The people in Hollywood will tell you that a story has plot points, two of them. What they mean is that a story has a beginning, middle and ending. I disagree with the Hollywood people, especially when they start talking about Joseph Cambell (one of the reasons that I am not a Hollywood storyteller) but not really about the beginning/middle/end bit.

I'm guessing that the sandcastle frames were the beginning. They set the scene, introduced Cueball and Megan and the mysterious La Petite, let us know something about the world (river small, sea big), and introduced the problem the "sea is rising." (I imagine that last in the voice of chicken little, but that's another digression.)

We fade out and in (very Hollywood) to the river trek and shortly after that Megan says, "Yeah. But that's what the first part of not ending looks like." (Many thanks to all of you who analyze (overanalyze?) and document the OTC, I used the wiki for this one.) That could be a meta comment, indicating the first plot point at the end of the beginning. (And then again it could just be finishing the exchange: Megan - "Maybe the sea doesn't end," Cueball - "We haven't walked very far.", I too have been known to overanalyze.)

The Hollywood "rule" for plot points is 30 pages to the first, 60 pages to the second, 30 pages to the end. A page a minute means a two hour movie. It gets cut in editing and these are only rough markers, but it will do for my analysis.

One quarter of the story is the beginning. If that is true, then the OTC may end somewhere between 881*4 ("Bye") and 1006*4 ("The first part of not ending"). Between 3,524 and 4,024 frames the OTC will end.

Almost every prediction we make about the OTC has been wrong, so feel free to take this with a grain of semencancercaffienebabies.

Genre or not?

In spite of the lurking molpy, I don't think this is a horror comic. Randall just doesn't seem to write that kind of stuff and there haven't been the requisite small scares to get us in the right emotional state for the bigger ones.

Comedy is a possibility, because the OTC is a (wait for it), "comic", but I really think it's going to have a more serious ending. This is more intuition than strong reasoning so feel free to disagree with me. (I know you will, so I feel better if I give you permission.) There haven't been a lot of comic moments in the comic. (There have been in the OTT, however; good thing I work at home otherwise my coworkers would be worried about me, too.)

Romantic is another possibility. Randall writes the most romantic stick characters I know (insert link to whirling Megan slowing down the world to spend a little more time with Cueball). But I don't see how the beginning points to romance. He did bring her berries, though, so maybe I'm wrong.

Drama is the best possibility I think, but, again, I don't see much set up for it.

Lastly, there is the strong possibility that Randall is just messing with our heads, and it will go on until he gets tired of it, or we stop being messed with, or he has finally gotten into the head of everyone in the world.

Ending

The more I think about this, the less sure I am of any conclusions. I don't even know if this is a story, it has some elements of one, but others defy the conventions. I don't know whether it will loop or end or (in theory) go on forever.

I figured I'd offer my thoughts and see what anyone else on this (intelligent, articulate and above all handsome) OTT had to offer.

Ouch. The latest ONG, "I found a campsite", is also eligible to be a plot point, and may point us toward horror. The GLR always manages to confound (ninja) my thoughts as soon as I get them articulated.

Edit: fixed Randall world domination sentence.


Best analysis of late I would say. Obviously there is story here. The Big Questions I see are:

1) Has GLR already figured out the whole plot, or is he still making it up as he goes? What level of detail has already been pre-determined.

2) Is GLR hearing / following us here at all on any level? Does anything we say here ever impact anything in the OTC?

3) Is there any mystery/connection/puzzle or anything connected to The Outside beyond that of typical story/metaphor?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jetpac » Thu May 16, 2013 3:25 pm UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:
mathrec wrote:
Rule110 wrote:...The Alt-Text

Once upon a morning cheery, while I pondered, slightly bleary
Over many a new webcomic full of dreary trendy wit,
Suddenly with brief foreboding I beheld an image loading -
'T'was a small JPEG decoding on my panel bit by bit.
Just a monochrome depiction taking shape there bit by bit.
I thought, 'What's the point of it?'
Spoiler:
For the frame projected merely two figures arranged austerely,
Seated rather cavalierly on some lonesome barren spit.
Eagerly I sought for meaning in their placid restful leaning,
Yet that earnest mental gleaning explicated not a whit; -
''Tis a caption missing,' said I, comprehending not a whit,
'Should explain wherefore they sit.'

Not inclined to whine or curse it, I intended to disperse it
But my mouse chanced to traverse it and up popped a tiny chit:
An alt-text, I saw, not fearing to expect the purpose clearing
By the letters there appearing like a scroll of holy writ.
Rapt I read the words inscribed there, terrible as holy writ.
And they spelt out: 'Wait for it.'

Wait for it? I sat and pondered while my morbid fancies wandered
Into strange phantasmagoric places few ever admit.
What grim portent was it sending; was 'it' coming soon, or ending?
Some catastrophe impending, all our mortal lives forfeit?
Was the Judgment Day upon us, holding every soul forfeit?
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Anon my mania deflated and it seemed my fears abated.
(None of us knows what is fated, and to fate we all submit.)
Then my gaze suddenly lifted, for like desert sands that drifted,
The comic page had shifted, though no refresh I'd transmit.
Lo! The figures changed position, with no page refresh transmit.
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Castles, rivers, swimming, scaffold, rising sea: all left me baffled,
As pix flowed in slow succession like a garment being knit.
Though my kenning should be gaining with each frame, 'twere no explaining
Every question still remaining: 'What's it mean, how does it fit?
Where's it going, what's the point, who are these folks, how's it all fit?'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

No surcease from my reflecting stopped the questions interjecting:
'Is the artist now expecting? Or is it his family's split?
Is it all 'bout global warming? Is it cancer lesions swarming?
I pray you, be more informing! All these mysteries remit.
For my peace of mind and sanity, the mysteries remit.'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

'Your coyness is most unpleasing. I won't wait,' I shouted, wheezing -
'All these pictures are just teasing, no intention to commit.
Black stick figure and sand castle, images so trite and facile
They're not worth near this much hassle. Leave my monitor unlit.
Take thy comic off my browser; leave my monitor unlit!'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'
And the alt-text, ne'er updating, still is waiting, still is waiting
As each new frame looms, relating tick by tick the drawn-out skit.
I can but, through days ensuing, ponder on my soul's undoing,
The one hope for my renewing being that I somehow quit
Whilst the alt-text whispers softly that I'm doomed never to quit.
I can only... wait for it.

Awesome. Poe's original was masterful, and filking it well is quite a feat. BRAVO.


Indeed! I believe the OTT has produced many wonderful works of Time inspired literary creations. Has anyone tried to compile them to a single site? I would love to do so, but alas, I've not the skills to do so.

At one point, somebody was collecting them on the wiki but I would guess that it's probably out of date at this point.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jjjdavidson » Thu May 16, 2013 3:29 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
mathrec wrote:You [/i]don't have to solve them.

Sorry, no can do. If an interesting Sudoku (one that's nonstandard and requires some actual brain crunching instead of pretty much filling it in on autopilot) crosses my path, I can't help myself.

Have you ever looked at the Google U.S. Puzzle Championship? Beginning with (I think) the 2005 test, they started including weird Sudoku variations, like one with polyomino boxes and one nasty one using LED numbers with some dark LEDs.

Of course, every test is a masterpiece of aggravating pencil-and-paper puzzle design. And the actual competition is intense - the fastest-moving 2½ hours you'll spend each year.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Thu May 16, 2013 3:29 pm UTC

The past is gONG
Image


We now know that Time has a past, something I do not believe we have discussed previously.


Kieryn wrote:
ttscp wrote:Thoughts on the OTC and the nature of Story
Spoiler:
I've been thinking about what it means for the OTC if it is a story. (Not that it has to be; I am biased to think in stories because I am a storyteller, but that's another story.) Story and plot are closely connected so I mix the two concepts in my thinking a lot.

A story has an ending and it's generally pointed toward that ending from the very first moment. A story has a genre. I mean more than western, romance, science fiction; I mean comedy, horror, love story, drama.

Beginning/middle/end and a prediction.

The people in Hollywood will tell you that a story has plot points, two of them. What they mean is that a story has a beginning, middle and ending. I disagree with the Hollywood people, especially when they start talking about Joseph Cambell (one of the reasons that I am not a Hollywood storyteller) but not really about the beginning/middle/end bit.

I'm guessing that the sandcastle frames were the beginning. They set the scene, introduced Cueball and Megan and the mysterious La Petite, let us know something about the world (river small, sea big), and introduced the problem the "sea is rising." (I imagine that last in the voice of chicken little, but that's another digression.)

We fade out and in (very Hollywood) to the river trek and shortly after that Megan says, "Yeah. But that's what the first part of not ending looks like." (Many thanks to all of you who analyze (overanalyze?) and document the OTC, I used the wiki for this one.) That could be a meta comment, indicating the first plot point at the end of the beginning. (And then again it could just be finishing the exchange: Megan - "Maybe the sea doesn't end," Cueball - "We haven't walked very far.", I too have been known to overanalyze.)

The Hollywood "rule" for plot points is 30 pages to the first, 60 pages to the second, 30 pages to the end. A page a minute means a two hour movie. It gets cut in editing and these are only rough markers, but it will do for my analysis.

One quarter of the story is the beginning. If that is true, then the OTC may end somewhere between 881*4 ("Bye") and 1006*4 ("The first part of not ending"). Between 3,524 and 4,024 frames the OTC will end.

Almost every prediction we make about the OTC has been wrong, so feel free to take this with a grain of semencancercaffienebabies.

Genre or not?

In spite of the lurking molpy, I don't think this is a horror comic. Randall just doesn't seem to write that kind of stuff and there haven't been the requisite small scares to get us in the right emotional state for the bigger ones.

Comedy is a possibility, because the OTC is a (wait for it), "comic", but I really think it's going to have a more serious ending. This is more intuition than strong reasoning so feel free to disagree with me. (I know you will, so I feel better if I give you permission.) There haven't been a lot of comic moments in the comic. (There have been in the OTT, however; good thing I work at home otherwise my coworkers would be worried about me, too.)

Romantic is another possibility. Randall writes the most romantic stick characters I know (insert link to whirling Megan slowing down the world to spend a little more time with Cueball). But I don't see how the beginning points to romance. He did bring her berries, though, so maybe I'm wrong.

Drama is the best possibility I think, but, again, I don't see much set up for it.

Lastly, there is the strong possibility that Randall is just messing with our heads, and it will go on until he gets tired of it, or we stop being messed with, or he has finally gotten into the head of everyone in the world.

Ending

The more I think about this, the less sure I am of any conclusions. I don't even know if this is a story, it has some elements of one, but others defy the conventions. I don't know whether it will loop or end or (in theory) go on forever.

I figured I'd offer my thoughts and see what anyone else on this (intelligent, articulate and above all handsome) OTT had to offer.

Ouch. The latest ONG, "I found a campsite", is also eligible to be a plot point, and may point us toward horror. The GLR always manages to confound (ninja) my thoughts as soon as I get them articulated.

Edit: fixed Randall world domination sentence.


Best analysis of late I would say. Obviously there is story here. The Big Questions I see are:

1) Has GLR already figured out the whole plot, or is he still making it up as he goes? What level of detail has already been pre-determined.

2) Is GLR hearing / following us here at all on any level? Does anything we say here ever impact anything in the OTC?

3) Is there any mystery/connection/puzzle or anything connected to The Outside beyond that of typical story/metaphor?


We must cautious of asking of heretical questions but I have some thoughts

1) Yes. GLR has a plan. Predestination - it is all accounted for.
2) No. See 1.
3) Perhaps, but to guess is always difficult as we do not fully understand 1.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mikro2nd » Thu May 16, 2013 3:32 pm UTC

Rule110 wrote:The Alt-Text
...

Utterly brilliant! Leaves me ravenous for more.

ttscp wrote: "sea is rising." (I imagine that last in the voice of chicken little, but that's another digression.)

And, thanks to you, I now hear it in the voice of Bluebottle (who's fallen in the water.)

And apropos of nothing and no-one,... I'll stick to my "they'll build something" hhypothesis for a while longer. My guess is it will be something that allows them to measure or otherwise figure out why the sea level is rising. GLR has, after all, something of a scientific bent. Methinks I'll wait awhile longer.
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Re: Lurking Molpy's for 600, Alex

Postby ttscp » Thu May 16, 2013 3:33 pm UTC

Kieryn wrote:
ttscp wrote:Thoughts on the OTC and the nature of Story
Best analysis of late I would say. Obviously there is story here. The Big Questions I see are:

1) Has GLR already figured out the whole plot, or is he still making it up as he goes? What level of detail has already been pre-determined.

2) Is GLR hearing / following us here at all on any level? Does anything we say here ever impact anything in the OTC?

3) Is there any mystery/connection/puzzle or anything connected to The Outside beyond that of typical story/metaphor?


Thank you. In this company, I'm honored.

1) There are authors who make it up as they go along (I'm convinced Stephen King is one). I find it hard to believe they don't have some sense of the ending, but I've read accounts by authors who say the characters took over and took the story a completely different direction.

2) My guess is that he is following the OTC at some level. Any good entertainer tailors their stuff to the audience. I don't think it's specific, however, it's more like, this is the kind of thing that interests/excites my audience, we'll do more of that.

3) Pure intuition here, I don't think the the OTC connects to the Outside (as in it's about global warming). That doesn't seem Randallish. It might, however, be a parody on Lost. If so, I, like mscha, will be pissed.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 3:34 pm UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:The past is gONG
Image


We now know that Time has a past, something I do not believe we have discussed previously.


Kieryn wrote:
ttscp wrote:Thoughts on the OTC and the nature of Story
Spoiler:
I've been thinking about what it means for the OTC if it is a story. (Not that it has to be; I am biased to think in stories because I am a storyteller, but that's another story.) Story and plot are closely connected so I mix the two concepts in my thinking a lot.

A story has an ending and it's generally pointed toward that ending from the very first moment. A story has a genre. I mean more than western, romance, science fiction; I mean comedy, horror, love story, drama.

Beginning/middle/end and a prediction.

The people in Hollywood will tell you that a story has plot points, two of them. What they mean is that a story has a beginning, middle and ending. I disagree with the Hollywood people, especially when they start talking about Joseph Cambell (one of the reasons that I am not a Hollywood storyteller) but not really about the beginning/middle/end bit.

I'm guessing that the sandcastle frames were the beginning. They set the scene, introduced Cueball and Megan and the mysterious La Petite, let us know something about the world (river small, sea big), and introduced the problem the "sea is rising." (I imagine that last in the voice of chicken little, but that's another digression.)

We fade out and in (very Hollywood) to the river trek and shortly after that Megan says, "Yeah. But that's what the first part of not ending looks like." (Many thanks to all of you who analyze (overanalyze?) and document the OTC, I used the wiki for this one.) That could be a meta comment, indicating the first plot point at the end of the beginning. (And then again it could just be finishing the exchange: Megan - "Maybe the sea doesn't end," Cueball - "We haven't walked very far.", I too have been known to overanalyze.)

The Hollywood "rule" for plot points is 30 pages to the first, 60 pages to the second, 30 pages to the end. A page a minute means a two hour movie. It gets cut in editing and these are only rough markers, but it will do for my analysis.

One quarter of the story is the beginning. If that is true, then the OTC may end somewhere between 881*4 ("Bye") and 1006*4 ("The first part of not ending"). Between 3,524 and 4,024 frames the OTC will end.

Almost every prediction we make about the OTC has been wrong, so feel free to take this with a grain of semencancercaffienebabies.

Genre or not?

In spite of the lurking molpy, I don't think this is a horror comic. Randall just doesn't seem to write that kind of stuff and there haven't been the requisite small scares to get us in the right emotional state for the bigger ones.

Comedy is a possibility, because the OTC is a (wait for it), "comic", but I really think it's going to have a more serious ending. This is more intuition than strong reasoning so feel free to disagree with me. (I know you will, so I feel better if I give you permission.) There haven't been a lot of comic moments in the comic. (There have been in the OTT, however; good thing I work at home otherwise my coworkers would be worried about me, too.)

Romantic is another possibility. Randall writes the most romantic stick characters I know (insert link to whirling Megan slowing down the world to spend a little more time with Cueball). But I don't see how the beginning points to romance. He did bring her berries, though, so maybe I'm wrong.

Drama is the best possibility I think, but, again, I don't see much set up for it.

Lastly, there is the strong possibility that Randall is just messing with our heads, and it will go on until he gets tired of it, or we stop being messed with, or he has finally gotten into the head of everyone in the world.

Ending

The more I think about this, the less sure I am of any conclusions. I don't even know if this is a story, it has some elements of one, but others defy the conventions. I don't know whether it will loop or end or (in theory) go on forever.

I figured I'd offer my thoughts and see what anyone else on this (intelligent, articulate and above all handsome) OTT had to offer.

Ouch. The latest ONG, "I found a campsite", is also eligible to be a plot point, and may point us toward horror. The GLR always manages to confound (ninja) my thoughts as soon as I get them articulated.

Edit: fixed Randall world domination sentence.


Best analysis of late I would say. Obviously there is story here. The Big Questions I see are:

1) Has GLR already figured out the whole plot, or is he still making it up as he goes? What level of detail has already been pre-determined.

2) Is GLR hearing / following us here at all on any level? Does anything we say here ever impact anything in the OTC?

3) Is there any mystery/connection/puzzle or anything connected to The Outside beyond that of typical story/metaphor?


We must cautious of asking of heretical questions but I have some thoughts

1) Yes. GLR has a plan. Predestination - it is all accounted for.
2) No. See 1.
3) Perhaps, but to guess is always difficult as we do not fully understand 1.

First, we actually don't know that time has a past--the campsite could have been used at the same time that Cuegan were building castles. It was days ago.

Second, I wouldn't put it past GLR to have spies here, and put little easter eggs or subplots in the OTC for us so long as it doesn't interfere with his great plan. It seems likely that while there is a plan, it is not a plan with no room for improvisation, and the date modified stamps imply that he has used it at one time or another.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Thu May 16, 2013 3:34 pm UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:
mathrec wrote:
Rule110 wrote:...The Alt-Text

Once upon a morning cheery, while I pondered, slightly bleary
Over many a new webcomic full of dreary trendy wit,
Suddenly with brief foreboding I beheld an image loading -
'T'was a small JPEG decoding on my panel bit by bit.
Just a monochrome depiction taking shape there bit by bit.
I thought, 'What's the point of it?'
Spoiler:
For the frame projected merely two figures arranged austerely,
Seated rather cavalierly on some lonesome barren spit.
Eagerly I sought for meaning in their placid restful leaning,
Yet that earnest mental gleaning explicated not a whit; -
''Tis a caption missing,' said I, comprehending not a whit,
'Should explain wherefore they sit.'

Not inclined to whine or curse it, I intended to disperse it
But my mouse chanced to traverse it and up popped a tiny chit:
An alt-text, I saw, not fearing to expect the purpose clearing
By the letters there appearing like a scroll of holy writ.
Rapt I read the words inscribed there, terrible as holy writ.
And they spelt out: 'Wait for it.'

Wait for it? I sat and pondered while my morbid fancies wandered
Into strange phantasmagoric places few ever admit.
What grim portent was it sending; was 'it' coming soon, or ending?
Some catastrophe impending, all our mortal lives forfeit?
Was the Judgment Day upon us, holding every soul forfeit?
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Anon my mania deflated and it seemed my fears abated.
(None of us knows what is fated, and to fate we all submit.)
Then my gaze suddenly lifted, for like desert sands that drifted,
The comic page had shifted, though no refresh I'd transmit.
Lo! The figures changed position, with no page refresh transmit.
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Castles, rivers, swimming, scaffold, rising sea: all left me baffled,
As pix flowed in slow succession like a garment being knit.
Though my kenning should be gaining with each frame, 'twere no explaining
Every question still remaining: 'What's it mean, how does it fit?
Where's it going, what's the point, who are these folks, how's it all fit?'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

No surcease from my reflecting stopped the questions interjecting:
'Is the artist now expecting? Or is it his family's split?
Is it all 'bout global warming? Is it cancer lesions swarming?
I pray you, be more informing! All these mysteries remit.
For my peace of mind and sanity, the mysteries remit.'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

'Your coyness is most unpleasing. I won't wait,' I shouted, wheezing -
'All these pictures are just teasing, no intention to commit.
Black stick figure and sand castle, images so trite and facile
They're not worth near this much hassle. Leave my monitor unlit.
Take thy comic off my browser; leave my monitor unlit!'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'
And the alt-text, ne'er updating, still is waiting, still is waiting
As each new frame looms, relating tick by tick the drawn-out skit.
I can but, through days ensuing, ponder on my soul's undoing,
The one hope for my renewing being that I somehow quit
Whilst the alt-text whispers softly that I'm doomed never to quit.
I can only... wait for it.

Awesome. Poe's original was masterful, and filking it well is quite a feat. BRAVO.


Indeed! I believe the OTT has produced many wonderful works of Time inspired literary creations. Has anyone tried to compile them to a single site? I would love to do so, but alas, I've not the skills to do so.


This is something I might aim to do over the coming weeks. My beginning to filter and list each user's posted links was the first inkling of this type of a thing. I'm pretty sure I could write something that would detect posts that appear to contain prose for example. Pulling out images, cupcakes, hats etc during the Daily Parse are also features that can be added over time.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ElWanderer » Thu May 16, 2013 3:37 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
ElWanderer wrote:There are Others! *insert Lost music*

I wonder if they'll find a hatch soon.

(I know, not new, been said a hundred times before, but if the OTC ends with just as many unresolved mysteries as Lost, I'm gonna be seriously pissed.)

Hopefully they won't find a stack of dynamite...

I lost track of Lost midway through the third series (partly because of a spat between two TV companies that meant we couldn't watch). I keep thinking about slogging through it all on DVD, but if it all ends as myseriously as it began, I might get very annoyed!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Ebonite » Thu May 16, 2013 3:42 pm UTC

ElWanderer wrote:There are Others! *insert Lost music*

I called it!

Ebonite wrote:Here's something I did instead of paying attention to a conference call at work:

The Waiting (with sincerest apologies to Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers)
<most of song deleted>
. . .
Oh, Randall we beseech, please make this worth the cost
We hope that there's a point, don't make this end like "Lost"


I still hope I'm wrong, though. I wasn't satisfied with the ending of "Lost", and I'd prefer better closure with the OTC.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eoink » Thu May 16, 2013 3:43 pm UTC

Rule110 wrote:Indeed.

The Alt-Text

Once upon a morning cheery, while I pondered, slightly bleary
...

I can only... wait for it.


Brilliant pastiche, true to the original, and capturing the spirit of the needle pulled thing beautifully, thank you.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby moody7277 » Thu May 16, 2013 3:44 pm UTC

ElWanderer wrote:
mscha wrote:
ElWanderer wrote:There are Others! *insert Lost music*

I wonder if they'll find a hatch soon.

(I know, not new, been said a hundred times before, but if the OTC ends with just as many unresolved mysteries as Lost, I'm gonna be seriously pissed.)

Hopefully they won't find a stack of dynamite...

I lost track of Lost midway through the third series (partly because of a spat between two TV companies that meant we couldn't watch). I keep thinking about slogging through it all on DVD, but if it all ends as myseriously as it began, I might get very annoyed!


Actually, it's a lot better on DVD because you get a clearer sense of the continuity (which is what the series is about). Also, I wasn't that miffed with the end, as it was juxtaposed with the end of BSG (which was horrid).
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Thu May 16, 2013 3:47 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:
k.bookbinder wrote:
Spoiler:
The past is gONG
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We now know that Time has a past, something I do not believe we have discussed previously.


Kieryn wrote:
ttscp wrote:Thoughts on the OTC and the nature of Story
I've been thinking about what it means for the OTC if it is a story. (Not that it has to be; I am biased to think in stories because I am a storyteller, but that's another story.) Story and plot are closely connected so I mix the two concepts in my thinking a lot.

A story has an ending and it's generally pointed toward that ending from the very first moment. A story has a genre. I mean more than western, romance, science fiction; I mean comedy, horror, love story, drama.

Beginning/middle/end and a prediction.

The people in Hollywood will tell you that a story has plot points, two of them. What they mean is that a story has a beginning, middle and ending. I disagree with the Hollywood people, especially when they start talking about Joseph Cambell (one of the reasons that I am not a Hollywood storyteller) but not really about the beginning/middle/end bit.

I'm guessing that the sandcastle frames were the beginning. They set the scene, introduced Cueball and Megan and the mysterious La Petite, let us know something about the world (river small, sea big), and introduced the problem the "sea is rising." (I imagine that last in the voice of chicken little, but that's another digression.)

We fade out and in (very Hollywood) to the river trek and shortly after that Megan says, "Yeah. But that's what the first part of not ending looks like." (Many thanks to all of you who analyze (overanalyze?) and document the OTC, I used the wiki for this one.) That could be a meta comment, indicating the first plot point at the end of the beginning. (And then again it could just be finishing the exchange: Megan - "Maybe the sea doesn't end," Cueball - "We haven't walked very far.", I too have been known to overanalyze.)

The Hollywood "rule" for plot points is 30 pages to the first, 60 pages to the second, 30 pages to the end. A page a minute means a two hour movie. It gets cut in editing and these are only rough markers, but it will do for my analysis.

One quarter of the story is the beginning. If that is true, then the OTC may end somewhere between 881*4 ("Bye") and 1006*4 ("The first part of not ending"). Between 3,524 and 4,024 frames the OTC will end.

Almost every prediction we make about the OTC has been wrong, so feel free to take this with a grain of semencancercaffienebabies.

Genre or not?

In spite of the lurking molpy, I don't think this is a horror comic. Randall just doesn't seem to write that kind of stuff and there haven't been the requisite small scares to get us in the right emotional state for the bigger ones.

Comedy is a possibility, because the OTC is a (wait for it), "comic", but I really think it's going to have a more serious ending. This is more intuition than strong reasoning so feel free to disagree with me. (I know you will, so I feel better if I give you permission.) There haven't been a lot of comic moments in the comic. (There have been in the OTT, however; good thing I work at home otherwise my coworkers would be worried about me, too.)

Romantic is another possibility. Randall writes the most romantic stick characters I know (insert link to whirling Megan slowing down the world to spend a little more time with Cueball). But I don't see how the beginning points to romance. He did bring her berries, though, so maybe I'm wrong.

Drama is the best possibility I think, but, again, I don't see much set up for it.

Lastly, there is the strong possibility that Randall is just messing with our heads, and it will go on until he gets tired of it, or we stop being messed with, or he has finally gotten into the head of everyone in the world.

Ending

The more I think about this, the less sure I am of any conclusions. I don't even know if this is a story, it has some elements of one, but others defy the conventions. I don't know whether it will loop or end or (in theory) go on forever.

I figured I'd offer my thoughts and see what anyone else on this (intelligent, articulate and above all handsome) OTT had to offer.

Ouch. The latest ONG, "I found a campsite", is also eligible to be a plot point, and may point us toward horror. The GLR always manages to confound (ninja) my thoughts as soon as I get them articulated.

Edit: fixed Randall world domination sentence.


Best analysis of late I would say. Obviously there is story here. The Big Questions I see are:

1) Has GLR already figured out the whole plot, or is he still making it up as he goes? What level of detail has already been pre-determined.

2) Is GLR hearing / following us here at all on any level? Does anything we say here ever impact anything in the OTC?

3) Is there any mystery/connection/puzzle or anything connected to The Outside beyond that of typical story/metaphor?


We must cautious of asking of heretical questions but I have some thoughts

1) Yes. GLR has a plan. Predestination - it is all accounted for.
2) No. See 1.
3) Perhaps, but to guess is always difficult as we do not fully understand 1.

First, we actually don't know that time has a past--the campsite could have been used at the same time that Cuegan were building castles. It was days ago.

Second, I wouldn't put it past GLR to have spies here, and put little easter eggs or subplots in the OTC for us so long as it doesn't interfere with his great plan. It seems likely that while there is a plan, it is not a plan with no room for improvisation, and the date modified stamps imply that he has used it at one time or another.


We know that action does happen beyond our view for the GLR wills that some things remain unknown to us. But it has always been suggested that the action happen concurrently with what we are allowed to see. I do not recall if Cuegan have ever spoken in the past tense, but I may be wrong. Please, if other instance of past tense speech be known I would be humbled to have them pointed out to me. (Though now that I think about it, does not Megan refer to the actions of the sea in past tense, eluding to previous experience?) Could the campfire be the actions of Le Petite?

From other GLR created comics I do not get the impression that the GLR tailors them to those that read them. Instead, I believe that it is his brilliance that appeals to us and that his thoughts, like ours, are such that the stories/jokes only appear to be tailored to those who would follow the GLR. For if it were not so, would we follow him?

In any case, certainly the end must be known to the GLR, for if it were not, why should we be commanded to wait for it?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Thu May 16, 2013 3:52 pm UTC

mathrec wrote:
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Done. The full image is below instead of just the Red-Square text.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 3:54 pm UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Thu May 16, 2013 4:01 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:
k.bookbinder wrote:
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...


...ti rof tiaW
...ti rof tiaW
...ti rof tiaW
...ti rof tiaW
...ti rof tiaW


The voice is messing with us Bookbinder, D:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Thu May 16, 2013 4:02 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:
k.bookbinder wrote:
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...


...ti rof tiaW
...ti rof tiaW
...ti rof tiaW
...ti rof tiaW
...ti rof tiaW


Oh no! Now the voices are confused and speaking backwards!? They are coming from the past perhaps!? :shock:
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