1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Thu May 16, 2013 4:04 pm UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:
Dracomax wrote:
k.bookbinder wrote:
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...


...ti rof tiaW
...ti rof tiaW
...ti rof tiaW
...ti rof tiaW
...ti rof tiaW


Oh no! Now the voices are confused and speaking backwards!? They are coming from the past perhaps!? :shock:

That or they reside in a very strange canyon.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 4:06 pm UTC

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ʇı ɹoɟ ʇıɐʍ
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ʇı ɹoɟ ʇıɐʍ
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Thu May 16, 2013 4:06 pm UTC

mikro2nd wrote:(aside: Like the Hotel California...)


"Hotel California"
"Randall's One True Comic"

Spoiler:
Internet on a dark night, see cool things that are there
Warm smell of a coffee1, rising up through the air
Coming in through the curtains, I saw a shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I hadn't stopped for the night!
There I sat, tired at my desk;
I hadn't comaed well;
And I was thinking to myself,
"This could be Heaven or this could be Hell"
Then I sipped on my coffee1, refreshed the demons away,
There were voices on the One True Thread,
I thought I heard them say...

Welcome to Randall's One True Comic
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely pace
Plenty of Time in Randall's One True Comic
Any time of year (Any time of year)
You can find it here

My mind is definitely twisted, wondering "what if it ends"
I got a lot of pretty, pretty hats, I call friends
We don't want it to be like, the horror that was LOST.
Or the ones who cancelled firefly, turning fire to frost!

So I called up the P-FAN,
"Please bring me newpix"
He said, "We haven't had a new ONG here since what outsiders call 'six'"
And still those voices are calling from far away,
Keep you up in the middle of the night
Just to hear them say...

Welcome to Randall's One True Comic
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely pace
We're livin' it up for Randall's One True Comic
Making awesome things (making awesome things)
like dinosaurs with wings!

On this needle-pulled thing,
[your name]'s really nice,
But [s]he said "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device"
And in the inquisition,
They gathered for the feast
They pelt it with their M&M's,
But they just can't kill the beast

Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the outsider I was before
"Relax," said the night bots,
"We are programmed to receive.
You can log-out any time you like,
But you can never leave!"


Now I really need to get some work done
EDIT for reasons of spolerage. Past dwellers: be wary of unedited links in future quotes
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Rule110 » Thu May 16, 2013 4:07 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:Bravo. Bravissimo! Well done. Have a non-heretic punishing piece of chocolate.

Drakeesh wrote:Very nicely written!

Ebonite wrote:This. Was. Amazing. Standing ovation!

Arky wrote:Brilliant.

PhoenixRising wrote:*clap* Well done!

ggh wrote:Wow. just wow.

DrSamCarter wrote:Oh. Wow. Nailed it in so many ways. That is wonderful.

jowo wrote:Yes Yes Yes! Thank you! This is so good.

dreiarmumig wrote:Also, Rule110, I'm in awe about your poem. As many others have said: Wow.

mathrec wrote:Awesome. Poe's original was masterful, and filking it well is quite a feat. BRAVO.

jjjdavidson wrote:This. Is. Absolutely. Amazing. You've captured so much of the tone of the original and so much of the tone of the OTT. I've got to see my wife's face when she reads this. Many, many thanks for the effort I know went into this.

mscha wrote:Wow... Amazing.
The level of creativity in the OTT just keeps surprising me.

akacat wrote:This is brilliant!

mikro2nd wrote:Utterly brilliant! Leaves me ravenous for more.

Eoink wrote:Brilliant pastiche, true to the original, and capturing the spirit of the needle pulled thing beautifully, thank you.


Aw shucks, thanks everyone! I could make quite a movie poster out of those quotes!

And I have to say that from such creative people, it means a lot more. (No offense to the fine local newspapers and morning television shows often quoted in movie posters.)

Filknotes for jjjdavidson and anyone else interested:
Spoiler:
Fortune played a huge role in making The Alt-Text possible. For two main reasons: one is I've filked The Raven before (yeah, it takes some getting used to); and the other is the perfect pre-existing fit between "Wait for it" and "Nevermore" (and also between "raven" and "alt-text"). Both phrases are about time, and answer the same kinds of questions. In fact, if you take Poe's original and substitute "Wait for it" for all the raven's "Nevermore's," it's still a coherent and very meaningful poem, though the meaning changes significantly, and it breaks the rhyme scheme.

It was an easy decision to keep the rhyme scheme intact, which meant using "it" rhymes in every stanza, which pretty much ruled out any direct parodic re-use of Poe's verses, which of course use "ore" rhymes in each stanza. Unfortunately, the available "it" rhymes are generally less evocative, but one makes do. (I would have loved to have "shore" "floor" "before" "implore" etc. in my toolbox; instead, I had to resist the urge to use "git.") Oh yeah, and it meant unfortunately writing out poor Lenore. (An early attempt to cast the time-lost BlitzGirl in Lenore's place went nowhere, and wouldn't have made sense anyhow with BlitzGirl no longer time-lost, and the whole thing ending up focused on the comic rather than the thread. And to really take Lenore's place in the rhyme scheme I'd have had to rename her GirlBlit or something, which I'm sure violates the Geneva Convention.)

I think it "needs" one more stanza, inserted before the "Castles, rivers..." stanza, to make the transition smoother between being about a single pic (that moved once) and the ongoing succession of pics. It also "needs" a lot of painstaking additional work on word and phrase choices. I put "needs" in quotes because I've learned not to let such perfectionism get in the way of writing for fun. (Writing for print publication is another story, but the difference in Time required to close the technical quality gap between, say, The Alt-Text and The Raven is several orders of magnitude, newpix into kilowpix.)

Ebonite wrote:Anyone else think of the end of the "Hunger Games" movie when they saw Cueball and Megan with the berries?


I think more of the end of The Blue Lagoon.

Dracomax wrote:
PhoenixRising wrote:
Rule110 wrote:
yappobiscuits wrote:… but once the OTT sucks you in, there's no getting out…


Indeed.
Spoiler:
The Alt-Text

Once upon a morning cheery, while I pondered, slightly bleary
Over many a new webcomic full of dreary trendy wit,
Suddenly with brief foreboding I beheld an image loading -
'T'was a small JPEG decoding on my panel bit by bit.
Just a monochrome depiction taking shape there bit by bit.
I thought, 'What's the point of it?'

For the frame projected merely two figures arranged austerely,
Seated rather cavalierly on some lonesome barren spit.
Eagerly I sought for meaning in their placid restful leaning,
Yet that earnest mental gleaning explicated not a whit; -
''Tis a caption missing,' said I, comprehending not a whit,
'Should explain wherefore they sit.'

Not inclined to whine or curse it, I intended to disperse it
But my mouse chanced to traverse it and up popped a tiny chit:
An alt-text, I saw, not fearing to expect the purpose clearing
By the letters there appearing like a scroll of holy writ.
Rapt I read the words inscribed there, terrible as holy writ.
And they spelt out: 'Wait for it.'

Wait for it? I sat and pondered while my morbid fancies wandered
Into strange phantasmagoric places few ever admit.
What grim portent was it sending; was 'it' coming soon, or ending?
Some catastrophe impending, all our mortal lives forfeit?
Was the Judgment Day upon us, holding every soul forfeit?
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Anon my mania deflated and it seemed my fears abated.
(None of us knows what is fated, and to fate we all submit.)
Then my gaze suddenly lifted, for like desert sands that drifted,
The comic page had shifted, though no refresh I'd transmit.
Lo! The figures changed position, with no page refresh transmit.
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Castles, rivers, swimming, scaffold, rising sea: all left me baffled,
As pix flowed in slow succession like a garment being knit.
Though my kenning should be gaining with each frame, 'twere no explaining
Every question still remaining: 'What's it mean, how does it fit?
Where's it going, what's the point, who are these folks, how's it all fit?'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

No surcease from my reflecting stopped the questions interjecting:
'Is the artist now expecting? Or is it his family's split?
Is it all 'bout global warming? Is it cancer lesions swarming?
I pray you, be more informing! All these mysteries remit.
For my peace of mind and sanity, the mysteries remit.'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

'Your coyness is most unpleasing. I won't wait,' I shouted, wheezing -
'All these pictures are just teasing, no intention to commit.
Black stick figure and sand castle, images so trite and facile
They're not worth near this much hassle. Leave my monitor unlit.
Take thy comic off my browser; leave my monitor unlit!'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

And the alt-text, ne'er updating, still is waiting, still is waiting
As each new frame looms, relating tick by tick the drawn-out skit.
I can but, through days ensuing, ponder on my soul's undoing,
The one hope for my renewing being that I somehow quit
Whilst the alt-text whispers softly that I'm doomed never to quit.
I can only... wait for it.


*clap* Well done!

I wonder what happens if Time never stops, though. Are we all doomed to wait for it for eternity? Not like that's a bad prospect. I can think of worse.

As long as everyone stays here, I don't know that I'd mind.

D'awwwwww.... <3 :) :)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 4:10 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mathrec » Thu May 16, 2013 4:10 pm UTC

HES wrote:
mikro2nd wrote:(aside: Like the Hotel California...)

"Hotel California"
"Randall's One True Comic"

Spoiler:
Internet on a dark night, see cool things that are there
Warm smell of a coffee1, rising up through the air
Coming in through the curtains, I saw a shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I hadn't stopped for the night!
There I sat, tired at my desk;
I hadn't comaed well;
And I was thinking to myself,
"This could be Heaven or this could be Hell"
Then I sipped on my coffee1, refreshed the demons away,
There were voices on the One True Thread,
I thought I heard them say...

Welcome to Randall's One True Comic
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely pace
Plenty of Time in Randall's One True Comic
Any time of year (Any time of year)
You can find it here

My mind is definitely twisted, wondering "what if it ends"
I got a lot of pretty, pretty hats, I call friends
We don't want it to be like, the horror that was LOST.
Or the ones who cancelled firefly, turning fire to frost!

So I called up the P-FAN,
"Please bring me newpix"
He said, "We haven't had a new ONG here since what outsiders call 'six'"
And still those voices are calling from far away,
Keep you up in the middle of the night
Just to hear them say...

Welcome to Randall's One True Comic
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely pace
We're livin' it up for Randall's One True Comic
Making awesome things (making awesome things)
like dinosaurs with wings!

On this needle-pulled thing,
[your name]'s really nice,
But [s]he said "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device"
And in the inquisition,
They gathered for the feast
They pelt it with their M&M's,
But they just can't kill the beast

Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the outsider I was before
"Relax," said the night bots,
"We are programmed to receive.
You can log-out any time you like,
But you can never leave!"

Now I really need to get some work done

Yes. Work. Done. (Thanks for the diversion. That was awesome. I'll just see myself out. Damn...)
Last edited by mathrec on Thu May 16, 2013 4:13 pm UTC, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 4:12 pm UTC

HES wrote:
mikro2nd wrote:(aside: Like the Hotel California...)


"Hotel California"
"Randall's One True Comic"

Spoiler:
Internet on a dark night, see cool things that are there
Warm smell of a coffee1, rising up through the air
Coming in through the curtains, I saw a shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I hadn't stopped for the night!
There I sat, tired at my desk;
I hadn't comaed well;
And I was thinking to myself,
"This could be Heaven or this could be Hell"
Then I sipped on my coffee1, refreshed the demons away,
There were voices on the One True Thread,
I thought I heard them say...

Welcome to Randall's One True Comic
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely pace
Plenty of Time in Randall's One True Comic
Any time of year (Any time of year)
You can find it here

My mind is definitely twisted, wondering "what if it ends"
I got a lot of pretty, pretty hats, I call friends
We don't want it to be like, the horror that was LOST.
Or the ones who cancelled firefly, turning fire to frost!

So I called up the P-FAN,
"Please bring me newpix"
He said, "We haven't had a new ONG here since what outsiders call 'six'"
And still those voices are calling from far away,
Keep you up in the middle of the night
Just to hear them say...

Welcome to Randall's One True Comic
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely pace
We're livin' it up for Randall's One True Comic
Making awesome things (making awesome things)
like dinosaurs with wings!

On this needle-pulled thing,
[your name]'s really nice,
But [s]he said "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device"
And in the inquisition,
They gathered for the feast
They pelt it with their M&M's,
But they just can't kill the beast

Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the outsider I was before
"Relax," said the night bots,
"We are programmed to receive.
You can log-out any time you like,
But you can never leave!"


Now I really need to get some work done

At first, I was :shock:
Then I was :lol:

Now I need to find some more non-heretic chocolate to hand out.
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im afraid so, but let me tell you something, the best people usualy are.”
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby thirds » Thu May 16, 2013 4:15 pm UTC

mscha wrote:WONDERMONGERING...
Spoiler:
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Must have been Prior TimeWaiters who waited too long, then the moply ate them.

Or

It's a campfire from Cuegan's trip to the beach, the beach where they lost their memory, explaining their total lack of understanding of anything.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 4:16 pm UTC

thirds wrote:
mscha wrote:WONDERMONGERING...
Spoiler:
Image



Must have been Prior TimeWaiters who waited too long, then the moply ate them.

Or

It's a campfire from Cuegan's trip to the beach, the beach where they lost their memory, explaining their total lack of understanding of anything.

Ah, a loopism variant.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby thirds » Thu May 16, 2013 4:20 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:
thirds wrote:
mscha wrote:WONDERMONGERING...
Spoiler:
Image



Must have been Prior TimeWaiters who waited too long, then the moply ate them.

Or

It's a campfire from Cuegan's trip to the beach, the beach where they lost their memory, explaining their total lack of understanding of anything.

Ah, a loopism variant.

No, in that scenario (I prefer the deadly moply theory), they would be subconsciously retracing their steps.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Thu May 16, 2013 4:20 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:
HES wrote:
mikro2nd wrote:(aside: Like the Hotel California...)


"Hotel California"
"Randall's One True Comic"

Spoiler:
Internet on a dark night, see cool things that are there
Warm smell of a coffee1, rising up through the air
Coming in through the curtains, I saw a shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I hadn't stopped for the night!
There I sat, tired at my desk;
I hadn't comaed well;
And I was thinking to myself,
"This could be Heaven or this could be Hell"
Then I sipped on my coffee1, refreshed the demons away,
There were voices on the One True Thread,
I thought I heard them say...

Welcome to Randall's One True Comic
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely pace
Plenty of Time in Randall's One True Comic
Any time of year (Any time of year)
You can find it here

My mind is definitely twisted, wondering "what if it ends"
I got a lot of pretty, pretty hats, I call friends
We don't want it to be like, the horror that was LOST.
Or the ones who cancelled firefly, turning fire to frost!

So I called up the P-FAN,
"Please bring me newpix"
He said, "We haven't had a new ONG here since what outsiders call 'six'"
And still those voices are calling from far away,
Keep you up in the middle of the night
Just to hear them say...

Welcome to Randall's One True Comic
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely pace
We're livin' it up for Randall's One True Comic
Making awesome things (making awesome things)
like dinosaurs with wings!

On this needle-pulled thing,
[your name]'s really nice,
But [s]he said "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device"
And in the inquisition,
They gathered for the feast
They pelt it with their M&M's,
But they just can't kill the beast

Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the outsider I was before
"Relax," said the night bots,
"We are programmed to receive.
You can log-out any time you like,
But you can never leave!"


Now I really need to get some work done

At first, I was :shock:
Then I was :lol:

Now I need to find some more non-heretic chocolate to hand out.

And the good steaks that are not to be thrown!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 4:23 pm UTC

akacat wrote:
mscha wrote:Answer alert:
Spoiler:
¿ǝɯıʇ ɟo ǝʇsɐʍ ǝɟɐs ɐ ʇı sI?
Hmm, I'm not sure I'm the best person to judge that. After all, I'm apparently under the impression that it's normal to hang out in the OTT. ;)

Really-really a spoiler, because I don't know how to upside-down-backwards type:
Spoiler:
The answer I got is "Is it a safe waste of some time".

Oops, looks like I forgot the second-last word. :oops: (I just forgot to type it in, really!) Retconned my answer, thanks for the note.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 4:23 pm UTC

thirds wrote:
Dracomax wrote:
thirds wrote:
mscha wrote:WONDERMONGERING...
Spoiler:
Image



Must have been Prior TimeWaiters who waited too long, then the moply ate them.

Or

It's a campfire from Cuegan's trip to the beach, the beach where they lost their memory, explaining their total lack of understanding of anything.

Ah, a loopism variant.

No, in that scenario (I prefer the deadly moply theory), they would be subconsciously retracing their steps.

Yet the comic would loop, because, being the same character they were before losing their memory, and barring exterior influences, they will follow the exact same path over and over again. their only hope to break the cycle being said outside influence(maybe lapetite, wondering why her friends don't remember her?)

also, Here's a chocolate not to be wasted on Heretics for HES:
Spoiler:
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<edited for spelling>
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Thu May 16, 2013 4:25 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
akacat wrote:
mscha wrote:Answer alert:
Spoiler:
¿ǝɯıʇ ɟo ǝʇsɐʍ ǝɟɐs ɐ ʇı sI?
Hmm, I'm not sure I'm the best person to judge that. After all, I'm apparently under the impression that it's normal to hang out in the OTT. ;)

Really-really a spoiler, because I don't know how to upside-down-backwards type:
Spoiler:
The answer I got is "Is it a safe waste of some time".

Oops, looks like I forgot the second-last word. :oops: (I just forgot to type it in, really!) Retconned my answer, thanks for the note.
For upside-down text, I used this.

¡sʇnuoɔoɔ ɟo ɥɔunq ʎʃǝʌoʃ ɐ ǝʌɐɥ I -osʃ∀ ◖: sıɥʇ ɹoɟ noʎ ʞuɐɥ⊥
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Rule110 » Thu May 16, 2013 4:33 pm UTC

HES wrote:"Hotel California"
"Randall's One True Comic"

<snip>
Welcome to Randall's One True Comic
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely pace
We're livin' it up for Randall's One True Comic
Making awesome things (making awesome things)
like dinosaurs with wings!
<snip>

This is lovely. Great use of the song!

Back when that song was an actual radio hit (shortly after the earth cooled), I was immersed in a massive solo school project, working alone for days on end with a top-40 radio station on, and they were playing that song every hour or two. Ever since, I've associated the Hotel California experience ("you can check out any time you like...") with projects, all-nighters, deadlines; and it's just the right mood.
If you're lost you can look--and you will find me
Time after Time...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby StratPlayer » Thu May 16, 2013 4:36 pm UTC

Rule110 wrote:
Spoiler:
Dracomax wrote:Bravo. Bravissimo! Well done. Have a non-heretic punishing piece of chocolate.

Drakeesh wrote:Very nicely written!

Ebonite wrote:This. Was. Amazing. Standing ovation!

Arky wrote:Brilliant.

PhoenixRising wrote:*clap* Well done!

ggh wrote:Wow. just wow.

DrSamCarter wrote:Oh. Wow. Nailed it in so many ways. That is wonderful.

jowo wrote:Yes Yes Yes! Thank you! This is so good.

dreiarmumig wrote:Also, Rule110, I'm in awe about your poem. As many others have said: Wow.

mathrec wrote:Awesome. Poe's original was masterful, and filking it well is quite a feat. BRAVO.

jjjdavidson wrote:This. Is. Absolutely. Amazing. You've captured so much of the tone of the original and so much of the tone of the OTT. I've got to see my wife's face when she reads this. Many, many thanks for the effort I know went into this.

mscha wrote:Wow... Amazing.
The level of creativity in the OTT just keeps surprising me.

akacat wrote:This is brilliant!

mikro2nd wrote:Utterly brilliant! Leaves me ravenous for more.

Eoink wrote:Brilliant pastiche, true to the original, and capturing the spirit of the needle pulled thing beautifully, thank you.


Aw shucks, thanks everyone! I could make quite a movie poster out of those quotes!

And I have to say that from such creative people, it means a lot more. (No offense to the fine local newspapers and morning television shows often quoted in movie posters.)

Filknotes for jjjdavidson and anyone else interested:
Fortune played a huge role in making The Alt-Text possible. For two main reasons: one is I've filked The Raven before (yeah, it takes some getting used to); and the other is the perfect pre-existing fit between "Wait for it" and "Nevermore" (and also between "raven" and "alt-text"). Both phrases are about time, and answer the same kinds of questions. In fact, if you take Poe's original and substitute "Wait for it" for all the raven's "Nevermore's," it's still a coherent and very meaningful poem, though the meaning changes significantly, and it breaks the rhyme scheme.

It was an easy decision to keep the rhyme scheme intact, which meant using "it" rhymes in every stanza, which pretty much ruled out any direct parodic re-use of Poe's verses, which of course use "ore" rhymes in each stanza. Unfortunately, the available "it" rhymes are generally less evocative, but one makes do. (I would have loved to have "shore" "floor" "before" "implore" etc. in my toolbox; instead, I had to resist the urge to use "git.") Oh yeah, and it meant unfortunately writing out poor Lenore. (An early attempt to cast the time-lost BlitzGirl in Lenore's place went nowhere, and wouldn't have made sense anyhow with BlitzGirl no longer time-lost, and the whole thing ending up focused on the comic rather than the thread. And to really take Lenore's place in the rhyme scheme I'd have had to rename her GirlBlit or something, which I'm sure violates the Geneva Convention.)

I think it "needs" one more stanza, inserted before the "Castles, rivers..." stanza, to make the transition smoother between being about a single pic (that moved once) and the ongoing succession of pics. It also "needs" a lot of painstaking additional work on word and phrase choices. I put "needs" in quotes because I've learned not to let such perfectionism get in the way of writing for fun. (Writing for print publication is another story, but the difference in Time required to close the technical quality gap between, say, The Alt-Text and The Raven is several orders of magnitude, newpix into kilowpix.)

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The Alt-Text

Once upon a morning cheery, while I pondered, slightly bleary
Over many a new webcomic full of dreary trendy wit,
Suddenly with brief foreboding I beheld an image loading -
'T'was a small JPEG decoding on my panel bit by bit.
Just a monochrome depiction taking shape there bit by bit.
I thought, 'What's the point of it?'

For the frame projected merely two figures arranged austerely,
Seated rather cavalierly on some lonesome barren spit.
Eagerly I sought for meaning in their placid restful leaning,
Yet that earnest mental gleaning explicated not a whit; -
''Tis a caption missing,' said I, comprehending not a whit,
'Should explain wherefore they sit.'

Not inclined to whine or curse it, I intended to disperse it
But my mouse chanced to traverse it and up popped a tiny chit:
An alt-text, I saw, not fearing to expect the purpose clearing
By the letters there appearing like a scroll of holy writ.
Rapt I read the words inscribed there, terrible as holy writ.
And they spelt out: 'Wait for it.'

Wait for it? I sat and pondered while my morbid fancies wandered
Into strange phantasmagoric places few ever admit.
What grim portent was it sending; was 'it' coming soon, or ending?
Some catastrophe impending, all our mortal lives forfeit?
Was the Judgment Day upon us, holding every soul forfeit?
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Anon my mania deflated and it seemed my fears abated.
(None of us knows what is fated, and to fate we all submit.)
Then my gaze suddenly lifted, for like desert sands that drifted,
The comic page had shifted, though no refresh I'd transmit.
Lo! The figures changed position, with no page refresh transmit.
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

Castles, rivers, swimming, scaffold, rising sea: all left me baffled,
As pix flowed in slow succession like a garment being knit.
Though my kenning should be gaining with each frame, 'twere no explaining
Every question still remaining: 'What's it mean, how does it fit?
Where's it going, what's the point, who are these folks, how's it all fit?'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

No surcease from my reflecting stopped the questions interjecting:
'Is the artist now expecting? Or is it his family's split?
Is it all 'bout global warming? Is it cancer lesions swarming?
I pray you, be more informing! All these mysteries remit.
For my peace of mind and sanity, the mysteries remit.'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

'Your coyness is most unpleasing. I won't wait,' I shouted, wheezing -
'All these pictures are just teasing, no intention to commit.
Black stick figure and sand castle, images so trite and facile
They're not worth near this much hassle. Leave my monitor unlit.
Take thy comic off my browser; leave my monitor unlit!'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

And the alt-text, ne'er updating, still is waiting, still is waiting
As each new frame looms, relating tick by tick the drawn-out skit.
I can but, through days ensuing, ponder on my soul's undoing,
The one hope for my renewing being that I somehow quit
Whilst the alt-text whispers softly that I'm doomed never to quit.
I can only... wait for it.


I need to microblitz to catch up with the last 15 or so pages I've missed, but I saw Rule110's large 'thank you' post and I had to read what he was being thanked for and then I couldn't possibly wait until post-blitz to say that I thought it was simply magnificent! Bravo!!! That was a tremendous job!

Good Poet, I've seen few of your ilk -- your filk was smooth as silk!!!! :D

Now off to blitz, as best as I can -- the Outside is weighing heavy on me today, so it may be a while before I am current with the recurrent currents of the OTT...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Thu May 16, 2013 4:38 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:also, Here's a choclate not to be wasted on Heretics for HES:
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mmmmm :D The non-heretic chocolate is the best

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Thu May 16, 2013 4:38 pm UTC

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@PhoenixRising: Svengoolie
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HAL9000 wrote:Oh man, I remember that movie. First time I saw it was on Svengoolie (yes, he's still around). Those B-movies are great.


I can't believe someone else has actually heard of Svengoolie, let alone watched him. Those rubber chickens man... :D

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BlitzGirl wrote:Thanks! It's a holdover from my blitzing days.

I like Mopey Molpy Mome, too. I'll have to add it to my sig. :)


I guess that makes HAL the Peppy Pulpy Pope, then...

Sigged. Too cute not to.

@ttscp: OTC lengh predictions
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ttscp wrote:Thoughts on the OTC and the nature of Story
One quarter of the story is the beginning. If that is true, then the OTC may end somewhere between 881*4 ("Bye") and 1006*4 ("The first part of not ending"). Between 3,524 and 4,024 frames the OTC will end.

There's a nice round number at 4096 (that's 2^12).

@mathrec, akacat: Sudoku
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mathrec wrote:OK. That's not fair on my part. About four years ago I programmed my server to generate a puzzle once per day. Remember, there will always be more. You don't have to solve them.

Lies.

Leaving a sudoku unfisnished just feels... wrong.

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Dracomax wrote:As long as everyone stays here, I don't know that I'd mind.

D'awwwwww.... <3 :) :)

I, at least, will be checking in here every once in a while after the OTC reaches its conclusion. And if the Powers That Be get angry at us for being off-topic, we can start a thread in the General subforum.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eoink » Thu May 16, 2013 4:42 pm UTC

StratPlayer wrote: *snipped*
Now off to blitz, as best as I can -- the Outside is weighing heavy on me today, so it may be a while before I am current with the recurrent currents of the OTT...


I can see your raisining here.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Thu May 16, 2013 4:43 pm UTC

How long is "a while" in newpix? Anyone?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby astrocub » Thu May 16, 2013 4:45 pm UTC

Rule110 wrote:
'Your coyness is most unpleasing. I won't wait,' I shouted, wheezing -
'All these pictures are just teasing, no intention to commit.
Black stick figure and sand castle, images so trite and facile
They're not worth near this much hassle. Leave my monitor unlit.
Take thy comic off my browser; leave my monitor unlit!'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

And the alt-text, ne'er updating, still is waiting, still is waiting
As each new frame looms, relating tick by tick the drawn-out skit.
I can but, through days ensuing, ponder on my soul's undoing,
The one hope for my renewing being that I somehow quit
Whilst the alt-text whispers softly that I'm doomed never to quit.
I can only... wait for it.

Chills. This seriously gave me chills.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 4:45 pm UTC

newpixbot wrote:WONDERMONGERING...

Looks like there's so much of ↑ going on that we don't get around to posting the ONG anymore...

The past few newpix have been kinda ridiculous: the amount of awesome but verbose contributions has been such that it's pretty much impossible to keep up even when full-time in the OTT, without coma and Outside distractions...
If this keeps up, we're going to have a problem.

Speaking of ONGs...
k.bookbinder wrote:The past is gONG

You do realize that you've been ninja'd by about half a newpix, right? ;)

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Kieryn wrote:How long is "a while" in newpix? Anyone?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby moody7277 » Thu May 16, 2013 4:48 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
newpixbot wrote:WONDERMONGERING...

Looks like there's so much of ↑ going on that we don't get around to posting the ONG anymore...


And it seems that by it's choice of ONGs, even newpixbot is impressed by the amount of creativity in the OTT.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Thu May 16, 2013 4:55 pm UTC

@Rule110: (The Alt-Text) Absolutely full of awesome!

re: ttscp - (Thoughts on the OTC and the nature of Story)
This is almost certainly a long-form story; beginning, middle, end (or perhaps similar to the musical form: theme, development, recapitulation, which may appeal to the loopy loopist among you), character development arcs, foreshadowing, conflict, crisis, resolution, etc. We've seen the first two scenes. It's still way in the beginning. As to genre, I think it's likely to be a light drama, with touching moments and funny moments. The theme I see is along the lines of "discovering the world", which is in line with other epic comics he's done (click and drag comes to mind, as well as Umwalt), and with his general science bent. If it be allegory, perhaps our own first steps into interstellar travel, and the wonders (and dangers) that lie out there. However, while that might be in the comic, I doubt it will turn out to be a primary substrate.

As to medium, this is the most interesting. People have been making movies for a hundred years, and have been acting out stories since the beginning of humanity. But by choosing a certain minimalist approach he has stripped away all that is unnecessary. This lets him put teeny details into what is left, where they might otherwise go unnoticed. Delivering these frames one at a time, an hour apart, to an exceptionally observant, nerdy, and communicative audience ensures that such efforts are not wasted. For that reason, the OTT is really essential to experiencing the OTC. Sure, the story (and all the details) of the OTC could be told a different way, such as adapting Shakespeare to film (or interpretive dance), but then it would be a different work.

I doubt highly that Randall mines the OTT for material. He probably hears tidbits now and then from friends of friends who have passed through it, but I think it's irrelevant to the creation of his work. He knows where he's going with it; certainly the broad strokes.

I am certain that Randall is not "just messing with our heads". He has a tale to tell, and it will be worth waiting for.

@HES - brilliant! (but for the sake of future Pilgrims, could you change the "you can find it here" link to point to this newpix which was current as of this newpage, rather than to the currently current newpix (which will refresh to a spoiler as Time marches on)? If you right-click and select "show image", then right-click and select "properties" on the resulting page, you should get the hash-version of the (now) current picture, which will freeze the comic in time. Even if it is a few newpix off, it should be close enough.)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 4:59 pm UTC

ucim wrote:@HES - brilliant!
Hear hear!
ucim wrote: (but for the sake of future Pilgrims, could you change the "you can find it here" link to point to this newpix which was current as of this newpage, rather than to the currently current newpix (which will refresh to a spoiler as Time marches on)? If you right-click and select "show image", then right-click and select "properties" on the resulting page, you should get the hash-version of the (now) current picture, which will freeze the comic in time. Even if it is a few newpix off, it should be close enough.)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Thu May 16, 2013 5:00 pm UTC

What will be the themesONG?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 5:03 pm UTC

Kieryn wrote:Megan thinking cautiously...

Still eating breakfast berries, I thought.
Yes, I could be wrong (I usually am about the OTC), but I think it's now morning. (They slept through the night, which we fast-forwarded through, thank Randall, and they woke up the next morning; Cueball first, wandering off to find the aforementioned breakfast.)

Edit: about the story...
I might be wrong (see above), but I'm not sure there is one.
I certainly agree with Jose that it's highly unlikely that Randall mines the OTT, but he may be indirectly influenced by it: perhaps he started off with a batch of images, say, the entire beach scene, and was pretty much planning to end it with the fade to white; but when he noticed (heard through the grapevine? saw for himself?) what the OTC had created, he changed his mind and added another scene. When that is finished? Who knows, if he's inspired, he might continue. If not? Then we'll have to find something else to do with our lives.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Thu May 16, 2013 5:07 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
Kieryn wrote:Megan thinking cautiously...

Still eating breakfast berries, I thought.
Yes, I could be wrong (I usually am about the OTC), but I think it's now morning. (They slept through the night, which we fast-forwarded through, thank Randall, and they woke up the next morning; Cueball first, wandering off to find the aforementioned breakfast.)


I'm wondering when they may start hallucinating from those berries and how GLR might depict that...

EDIT: As a fun exercise, how would we depict that?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ttscp » Thu May 16, 2013 5:13 pm UTC

ucim wrote:@Rule110: (The Alt-Text) Absolutely full of awesome!


Haven't said this before, but agree completely.

ucim wrote:re: ttscp - (Thoughts on the OTC and the nature of Story)
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This is almost certainly a long-form story; beginning, middle, end (or perhaps similar to the musical form: theme, development, recapitulation, which may appeal to the loopy loopist among you), character development arcs, foreshadowing, conflict, crisis, resolution, etc. We've seen the first two scenes. It's still way in the beginning. As to genre, I think it's likely to be a light drama, with touching moments and funny moments. The theme I see is along the lines of "discovering the world", which is in line with other epic comics he's done (click and drag comes to mind, as well as Umwalt), and with his general science bent. If it be allegory, perhaps our own first steps into interstellar travel, and the wonders (and dangers) that lie out there. However, while that might be in the comic, I doubt it will turn out to be a primary substrate.

As to medium, this is the most interesting. People have been making movies for a hundred years, and have been acting out stories since the beginning of humanity. But by choosing a certain minimalist approach he has stripped away all that is unnecessary. This lets him put teeny details into what is left, where they might otherwise go unnoticed. Delivering these frames one at a time, an hour apart, to an exceptionally observant, nerdy, and communicative audience ensures that such efforts are not wasted. For that reason, the OTT is really essential to experiencing the OTC. Sure, the story (and all the details) of the OTC could be told a different way, such as adapting Shakespeare to film (or interpretive dance), but then it would be a different work.

I doubt highly that Randall mines the OTT for material. He probably hears tidbits now and then from friends of friends who have passed through it, but I think it's irrelevant to the creation of his work. He knows where he's going with it; certainly the broad strokes.

I am certain that Randall is not "just messing with our heads". He has a tale to tell, and it will be worth waiting for.


Interesting thoughts, Jose. It amazes me what Randall has done with the medium. You have to experience the OTC in real time to get the full flavor. Remember the panic during the fadeout? There's no way someone coming to the comic later will have that same experience.

I agree that it is pretty sure he's not messing with our heads (other than the way all authors do when telling stories), but he has me dumfounded. I can usually tell where stories are going (I figured out All The Usual Suspects for example, early into the movie), but, as I've said, every time I think I have a feel for the OTC, Randall throws in a wrench (or a raptor). But there's strong outside evidence that he's a storyteller. Even click and drag has that panel where the balloon guy says, "I wonder where I'll drift to next." that satisfies me as an ending.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 5:16 pm UTC

Kieryn wrote:I'm wondering when they may start hallucinating from those berries and how GLR might depict that...
EDIT: As a fun exercise, how would we depict that?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby astrocub » Thu May 16, 2013 5:17 pm UTC

Kieryn wrote:
mscha wrote:
Kieryn wrote:Megan thinking cautiously...

Still eating breakfast berries, I thought.
Yes, I could be wrong (I usually am about the OTC), but I think it's now morning. (They slept through the night, which we fast-forwarded through, thank Randall, and they woke up the next morning; Cueball first, wandering off to find the aforementioned breakfast.)


I'm wondering when they may start hallucinating from those berries and how GLR might depict that...

EDIT: As a fun exercise, how would we depict that?


With colors!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 5:23 pm UTC

astrocub wrote:
Kieryn wrote:
mscha wrote:
Kieryn wrote:Megan thinking cautiously...

Still eating breakfast berries, I thought.
Yes, I could be wrong (I usually am about the OTC), but I think it's now morning. (They slept through the night, which we fast-forwarded through, thank Randall, and they woke up the next morning; Cueball first, wandering off to find the aforementioned breakfast.)


I'm wondering when they may start hallucinating from those berries and how GLR might depict that...

EDIT: As a fun exercise, how would we depict that?


With colors!

Edit: Psychedelininja'd
Where can I get some of those berries? /jk.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Thu May 16, 2013 5:25 pm UTC

So the campfire is old. Hm. But what is time to those in Time, for how are we to know what old is in Time? And what would one be doing on a hillside near the river? Had campfire builders stopped for rest, was it recreational camping, was it someone who left the people in the hills (consult the map for reference) or, indeed, perhaps some one traveling to the people in the hills?

There is still so much we do not know. To know what we do not know is quite overwhelming, I think. Heresy it be, I know, but I often think of the Prayer of Bliss, at times like these:

Lord! (GLR!)
Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know.
Protect me from knowing that there are things to know that I don't know.
Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about.
Amen.

Knowledge is such a burden, and the quest for it a torment that one must endure. For I believe there is light at the end of the long dark tunnel of ignorance, if only the GLR would show us the way. We must continue to wait for it.


Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Thu May 16, 2013 5:26 pm UTC

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Kieryn wrote:I'm wondering when they may start hallucinating from those berries and how GLR might depict that...
EDIT: As a fun exercise, how would we depict that?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 5:30 pm UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:So the campfire is old. Hm. But what is time to those in Time, for how are we to know what old is in Time? And what would one be doing on a hillside near the river? Had campfire builders stopped for rest, was it recreational camping, was it someone who left the people in the hills (consult the map for reference) or, indeed, perhaps some one traveling to the people in the hills?

There is still so much we do not know. To know what we do not know is quite overwhelming, I think. Heresy it be, I know, but I often think of the Prayer of Bliss, at times like these:

Lord! (GLR!)
Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know.
Protect me from knowing that there are things to know that I don't know.
Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about.
Amen.

Knowledge is such a burden, and the quest for it a torment that one must endure. For I believe there is light at the end of the long dark tunnel of ignorance, if only the GLR would show us the way. We must continue to wait for it.


Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...

Oh great! They're speaking in anagrams now! :shock:

Knowledge is a burden, but Cueball and Megan have shown us it is not a burden to be rejected, but explored. For did they not, when confronted with that which they did not understand, go to seek it's source? did they not seek to understand everything?

Surely to reject Knowledge is to reject the message of GLR, and that would be heretical. You aren't a heretic, are you?
*glares ferociously*
Ebj vg n svg...
Ebj vg n svg...
Ebj vg n svg...
Ebj vg n svg...
Ebj vg n svg...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 5:31 pm UTC

Kieryn wrote:I'm wondering when they may start hallucinating from those berries and how GLR might depict that...
EDIT: As a fun exercise, how would we depict that?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby astrocub » Thu May 16, 2013 5:33 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
Kieryn wrote:I'm wondering when they may start hallucinating from those berries and how GLR might depict that...
EDIT: As a fun exercise, how would we depict that?

Warning: animated image (although I don't think it's epilepsy or headache inducing):
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Yesss. Now we just need someone to edit the epileptic seizure inducing gif into the background (heavily spoilered of course. I mean with a chain link fence and rottweilers and some tattooed prison guards.)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Thu May 16, 2013 5:38 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:
k.bookbinder wrote:So the campfire is old. Hm. But what is time to those in Time, for how are we to know what old is in Time? And what would one be doing on a hillside near the river? Had campfire builders stopped for rest, was it recreational camping, was it someone who left the people in the hills (consult the map for reference) or, indeed, perhaps some one traveling to the people in the hills?

There is still so much we do not know. To know what we do not know is quite overwhelming, I think. Heresy it be, I know, but I often think of the Prayer of Bliss, at times like these:

Lord! (GLR!)
Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know.
Protect me from knowing that there are things to know that I don't know.
Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about.
Amen.

Knowledge is such a burden, and the quest for it a torment that one must endure. For I believe there is light at the end of the long dark tunnel of ignorance, if only the GLR would show us the way. We must continue to wait for it.


Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...

Oh great! They're speaking in anagrams now! :shock:

Knowledge is a burden, but Cueball and Megan have shown us it is not a burden to be rejected, but explored. For did they not, when confronted with that which they did not understand, go to seek it's source? did they not seek to understand everything?

Surely to reject Knowledge is to reject the message of GLR, and that would be heretical. You aren't a heretic, are you?
*glares ferociously*
Ebj vg n svg...
Ebj vg n svg...
Ebj vg n svg...
Ebj vg n svg...
Ebj vg n svg...


I would never reject knowledge! But surely, even the devote have moments of doubt :oops:

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Thu May 16, 2013 5:41 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
Kieryn wrote:I'm wondering when they may start hallucinating from those berries and how GLR might depict that...
EDIT: As a fun exercise, how would we depict that?

Warning: animated image (although I don't think it's epilepsy or headache inducing):
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Nice work on both those images :)

I wrote that edit and stepped out to buy lunch. Did not expect anything this cool by the time I got back. My favorite is the color one, though the animation is probably a more disorientating true form.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 5:42 pm UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:
Dracomax wrote:
k.bookbinder wrote:So the campfire is old. Hm. But what is time to those in Time, for how are we to know what old is in Time? And what would one be doing on a hillside near the river? Had campfire builders stopped for rest, was it recreational camping, was it someone who left the people in the hills (consult the map for reference) or, indeed, perhaps some one traveling to the people in the hills?

There is still so much we do not know. To know what we do not know is quite overwhelming, I think. Heresy it be, I know, but I often think of the Prayer of Bliss, at times like these:

Lord! (GLR!)
Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know.
Protect me from knowing that there are things to know that I don't know.
Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about.
Amen.

Knowledge is such a burden, and the quest for it a torment that one must endure. For I believe there is light at the end of the long dark tunnel of ignorance, if only the GLR would show us the way. We must continue to wait for it.


Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...
Row it a fit...

Oh great! They're speaking in anagrams now! :shock:

Knowledge is a burden, but Cueball and Megan have shown us it is not a burden to be rejected, but explored. For did they not, when confronted with that which they did not understand, go to seek it's source? did they not seek to understand everything?

Surely to reject Knowledge is to reject the message of GLR, and that would be heretical. You aren't a heretic, are you?
*glares ferociously*
Ebj vg n svg...
Ebj vg n svg...
Ebj vg n svg...
Ebj vg n svg...
Ebj vg n svg...


I would never reject knowledge! But surely, even the devote have moments of doubt :oops:

Do...do I get chocolate now? :oops: I am always willing to accept punishment for my sins. No skittles, though, please. Though you may set them aside for Hal9000, for he does love them so.

No, Today is after dinner mints, and stale goldfish crackers. also, you may be placed in the foam maiden(it's like the iron maiden, but made out of the tthe memory foam they use in mattresses.)
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