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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:16 am UTC

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I don't see why not :D Those zealous weed-eradication folk in Canberra don't seem too concerned about *where* you might have seen Fountain Grass, or even *when*. Would be quite funny if they started getting reported sightings from all over the globe. As long as nobody points them at the garden bed by my front door, anyway...

Oh, excellent. :D Which one of us gets to report the fountain grass that we are currently seeing in the newpix?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:21 am UTC

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Here's the final Pokeymation:
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51 frames, that's certainly the longest Molpymation so far, and one of the longest post-fade scenes.
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  5. (They weren't long enough at any of the Baobab⁷ scenes to include those.)
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  7. 1574-1578, and 1637-1656: The end of the vine½cue. (5+20=25 frames.)
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  9. 1584-1611, and 1662-1666: Abandoned camp. (28+5=33 frames.)
  10. 1726-1753: Snake⁹! (28 frames.)
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  13. 1843-1882: Chilpy. (40 frames.)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby tinosoph » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:22 am UTC

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lmjb1964 wrote:(In Everything is Illuminated, one of the characters is a Ukrainian man; at one point he tells the American protagonist that he doesn't understand why Americans say "the Ukraine.")

Interesting to know, dreiarmumig, that German also uses the article. Does that happen with other country names in German? Maybe that's where we got it from. I always wondered why it became "the Ukraine." charlie, you seem to suggest that it's something that the USSR started.

"The Unites States of America"? I don't think I've ever heard it called just "United States" or "US" or "USA"... it's always "The US" etc.


It's not very common in German. Only a few exceptions like Die Niederlande, die Mongolei, der Libanon or der Tschad. Oh, and die USA of course. So if you see "Die USA" printed anywhere, don't jump to the conclusion you're dealing with terrorists. Could be Germans too.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:26 am UTC

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Flotter wrote:According to the BBC, it's mainly a historical thing. "The Ukraine" might be short for "The Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic", but that doesn't exist anymore and the official name of the country is now just "Ukraine".

It's "The Netherlands", too, isn't it?

Yes, although none here will look funny at you if you call it Nederland, for that's what we call it ourselves.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:29 am UTC

tinosoph wrote:
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lmjb1964 wrote:(In Everything is Illuminated, one of the characters is a Ukrainian man; at one point he tells the American protagonist that he doesn't understand why Americans say "the Ukraine.")
Interesting to know, dreiarmumig, that German also uses the article. Does that happen with other country names in German? Maybe that's where we got it from. I always wondered why it became "the Ukraine." charlie, you seem to suggest that it's something that the USSR started.

"The Unites States of America"? I don't think I've ever heard it called just "United States" or "US" or "USA"... it's always "The US" etc.

It's not very common in German. Only a few exceptions like Die Niederlande, die Mongolei, der Libanon or der Tschad. Oh, and die USA of course. So if you see "Die USA" printed anywhere, don't jump to the conclusion you're dealing with terrorists. Could be Germans too.

Interestingly, Dutch is one of the few languages (well, the only one I know well enough – no, wait, in Norwegian, they also say “Nederland”) that doesn't use an article with the name of The Netherlands. It's just “Nederland”. (Like Nederland, CO, which has in its entirety an about 8 times higher altitude than the highest point in the country.)
For most other countries, we use articles in pretty much the same cases as English and German, for instance, do.

Edit: Neilja'd.

Edit2: ZoomanSP's post made me realize the Dutch use of articles isn't that close to that in German. (We say “Zwitserland”, “Jemen”, for instance.) I do stick by “pretty much the same as in English”, though. (Until someone points out that I'm wrong about that too.)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby tinosoph » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:39 am UTC

As a resident of the Dillenburg area I hope everyone of you has finished their pilgrimage to the Wilhelmsturm already.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:45 am UTC

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lmjb1964 wrote:<snip> Interesting to know, dreiarmumig, that German also uses the article. Does that happen with other country names in German? Maybe that's where we got it from. I always wondered why it became "the Ukraine." <snip>

I always wondered about the use of articles before country names in German, too, and your questions finally made me look it up. It seems (according to this article (in German)) that countries which have a neutral grammatical gender ("das") are referred to without an article (e.g., "Frankreich ist schön." = "France is nice."). Countries which have a feminine grammatical gender ("die"), masculine grammatical gender ("der"), or are plural forms, are referred to with an article (e.g., "Die Schweiz ist schön." = "Switzerland is nice", "Der Jemen ist schön." = "(The) Yemen is nice", "Die Philippinen sind schön." = "The Philippines are nice."). It's interesting to note that, when comparing this rule with the examples given in the article Flotter linked to, most countries appear on both lists.
Edit: Oh, and do you really say "the Argentine" (like it's mentioned in the BBC article)? I would have simply said "Argentina".
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby xpatiate » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:59 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Oh, excellent. :D Which one of us gets to report the fountain grass that we are currently seeing in the newpix?


Let's see if we get confirmation via dialogue first. Wouldn't want to call out the squad on a false alarm.

Thank you for that awesome Pokeymation mscha! If this little creature didn't have far too many names already, I'd be tempted to suggest 'molpybean' for the cute kidney-bean shape it makes when rolling down towards Cuegan.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby charlie_grumbles » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:00 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:02 am UTC

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I think that is just a little leftover madness. Posts come out right, but a few things will change in the preview window.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:12 am UTC

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I think that is just a little leftover madness. Posts come out right, but a few things will change in the preview window.

Not just the preview window, also the post. For instance, “tricks” becomes “trickses” when quoted, and that will end up in the posted version, if you don't fix it by hand.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Angua » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:16 am UTC

Mod madness is only once a year. Some word filters stay all year around though.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:17 am UTC

Angua wrote:Mod madness is only once a year. Some word filters stay all year around though.

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Huh, you're right - they're only working for the previews. How odd.

FTFY.

I believe this is because you are posting on the OTT. This is the only thread I know that was spared by the Mods in the Madness, so that the filters only applied to quotes and previews and not to the original posts.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby cellocgw » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:25 am UTC

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Perhaps we should publish the stories written here on FanFiction or some similar website.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby AnotherKevin » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:25 am UTC

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Lifting it up, it appears.

Because obviously Cueball is looking for trouble. He wants to raise cane*.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:28 am UTC

mscha wrote:
tinosoph wrote:
mikro2nd wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:(In Everything is Illuminated, one of the characters is a Ukrainian man; at one point he tells the American protagonist that he doesn't understand why Americans say "the Ukraine.")
Interesting to know, dreiarmumig, that German also uses the article. Does that happen with other country names in German? Maybe that's where we got it from. I always wondered why it became "the Ukraine." charlie, you seem to suggest that it's something that the USSR started.

"The Unites States of America"? I don't think I've ever heard it called just "United States" or "US" or "USA"... it's always "The US" etc.

It's not very common in German. Only a few exceptions like Die Niederlande, die Mongolei, der Libanon or der Tschad. Oh, and die USA of course. So if you see "Die USA" printed anywhere, don't jump to the conclusion you're dealing with terrorists. Could be Germans too.

Interestingly, Dutch is one of the few languages (well, the only one I know well enough – no, wait, in Norwegian, they also say “Nederland”) that doesn't use an article with the name of The Netherlands. It's just “Nederland”. (Like Nederland, CO, which has in its entirety an about 8 times higher altitude than the highest point in the country.)
For most other countries, we use articles in pretty much the same cases as English and German, for instance, do.

Edit: Neilja'd.

Edit2: ZoomanSP's post made me realize the Dutch use of articles isn't that close to that in German. (We say “Zwitserland”, “Jemen”, for instance.) I do stick by “pretty much the same as in English”, though. (Until someone points out that I'm wrong about that too.)


In regards to the whole discussion of Ukraine, I was always under the impression that, in regards to English, it is simply a result of how we use articles. For instance, I would not say, "I live in mid-lands", but instead would say, "I live in the mid-lands". So one would not say, "They live in borderlands", but instead would say, "They live in the borderlands", or, "They live in the Ukraine". Someone in Scotland may be a Highlander, but we do not say "They live in Highlands". We say, "They live in the Highlands." Same with low lands: "They live in the low lands", or, "They live in the Netherlands". I assume that the use of articles in dutch are different. So my question is, in Dutch, would an article be used to say something like, "I am at the courthouse"? Or would it be a more literal translation such as "I am at courthouse"? I think it is more confusing when people incorrectly capitalize the article "The". In any case, perhaps I am late to the game and this has been said before.

Has anyone yet posted links to here or here yet? If links for these articles have been posted, my apologies. But they do seem to clear things up quite nicely. Also, you can see that, since gaining independence, the Ukraine is no longer the Ukraine, as in a geographic are, but an independent entity, and so therefore is now Ukraine.

Oh, and if this had already been said, ignore it and forgive me. It is early, and a morning person I am not. But I felt compelled to reply, despite my lack of coffee, and that is never really a good idea. I will refrain from entering the conversation about y'all, except to say that, now living in the deep south, *clears throat*
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:30 am UTC

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And now I've got that song in my head.

Eh? Did I just accidentally reference a song?

Perhaps moody7277 is thinking of "Wake up little Susie". Because I did, as well.

I can't believe nobody's filked this yet. It's been over 10 newpix!

Wake Up, Little Molpy

Wake up, little Molpy, wake up!
Wake up, little Molpy, wake up!
When Cue and Meg came near, you rolled up out of fear,
You fell of your rock, and Cueball picked you up, you wished they'd disappear.
Wake up, little Molpy!
Wake up, little Molpy!

Well, are you in a coma,
or are you just abiding your time?
I hope that you're all right, 'cause it would be a crime.
Wake up, little Molpy!
Wake up, little Molpy!

Well, now Cue and Meg have finally left the scene,
there's still no movement, I guess you aren't keen.
Wake up, little Molpy!
Wake up, little Molpy!
I hope you're all right.

Wake up, little Molpy, wake up!
Wake up, little Molpy, wake up!
You finally start to move, so that we get some proof
that Cueball did you no harm, though of his acts I don't approve.
Hello, little Molpy!
Hello, little Molpy!

Well, you aren't in a coma,
you were just abiding your time.
You seem to be all right, so there was not a crime.
Goodbye, little Molpy!
Goodbye, little Molpy!
Goodbye, little Molpy!


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby cellocgw » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:31 am UTC

tinosoph wrote: So if you see "Die USA" printed anywhere, don't jump to the conclusion you're dealing with terrorists. Could be Germans too.



Wait, so all those alt.*.die.die.die groups were really just Germans obsessed with definite articles (or stuttering)?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:49 am UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:In regards to the whole discussion of Ukraine, I was always under the impression that, in regards to English, it is simply a result of how we use articles. For instance, I would not say, "I live in mid-lands", but instead would say, "I live in the mid-lands". So one would not say, "They live in borderlands", but instead would say, "They live in the borderlands", or, "They live in the Ukraine". Someone in Scotland may be a Highlander, but we do not say "They live in Highlands". We say, "They live in the Highlands." Same with low lands: "They live in the low lands", or, "They live in the Netherlands". I assume that the use of articles in dutch are different. So my question is, in Dutch, would an article be used to say something like, "I am at the courthouse"? Or would it be a more literal translation such as "I am at courthouse"? I think it is more confusing when people incorrectly capitalize the article "The". In any case, perhaps I am late to the game and this has been said before.

Just to throw a new question into the mix, is it "my uncle is in the hospital" or "my uncle is in hospital" ? I grew up with "the hospital" but have since encountered just "hospital" from various sources. I first thought it was an American/British thing, but I'm no longer convinced. I don't know of other places (such as the courthouse) where 'the' is optional. No one ever seems to go to store. (Though they might go to court, but it would be in the courthouse.) Curious.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby tinosoph » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:56 am UTC

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tinosoph wrote: So if you see "Die USA" printed anywhere, don't jump to the conclusion you're dealing with terrorists. Could be Germans too.



Wait, so all those alt.*.die.die.die groups were really just Germans obsessed with definite articles (or stuttering)?


Definitely. Even the German intro of Sesame Street shows a certain obsession with that stuff.
"Der, die, das. wer, wie, was. wieso, weshalb, warum. wer nicht fragt bleibt dumm" - "the, the, the. who, how, what. why, why, why. who doesn't ask, stays dumb"
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:59 am UTC

mscha wrote:Edit2: ZoomanSP's post made me realize the Dutch use of articles isn't that close to that in German. (We say “Zwitserland”, “Jemen”, for instance.) I do stick by “pretty much the same as in English”, though. (Until someone points out that I'm wrong about that too.)

Based on your examples, I'd say Dutch and German aren't that different. You say “Zwitserland” (instead of "die Schweiz"), which is comparable to "Deutschland" (grammatically). So both mean "Land of someone", and since it's "das Land" ("het land" in Dutch, I guess?) (i.e., neutral grammatical gender), it's skipped. Furthermore, when you say "Nederland", it's singular, so you don't need an article (according to German rules). When you say "die Niederlande" (= "the Netherlands") in German, it's plural, so with an article. Regarding Yemen, you find both versions ("Jemen", "der Jemen") in German, as for other countries with masculine gender ("Iran"/"der Iran", "Irak"/"der Irak", etc.), but the use of the article in these cases is still more common (I'd say).
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby foilman » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:00 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby dreiarmumig » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:11 pm UTC

tinosoph wrote:So if you see "Die USA" printed anywhere, don't jump to the conclusion you're dealing with terrorists. Could be Germans too.



ZoomanSP wrote:I always wondered about the use of articles before country names in German, too, and your questions finally made me look it up. It seems (according to this article <snip>

Ah, I love Zwiebelfisch. It's the go-to website for this kind of thing. And for funny pictures of misused apostrophes, quotation marks and spelling mistakes. I once made it into one of his books with this picture:
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It says (not sure about the translation of Schlickfelder, but that's not the important part):
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:12 pm UTC

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k.bookbinder wrote:In regards to the whole discussion of Ukraine,
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I was always under the impression that, in regards to English, it is simply a result of how we use articles. For instance, I would not say, "I live in mid-lands", but instead would say, "I live in the mid-lands". So one would not say, "They live in borderlands", but instead would say, "They live in the borderlands", or, "They live in the Ukraine". Someone in Scotland may be a Highlander, but we do not say "They live in Highlands". We say, "They live in the Highlands." Same with low lands: "They live in the low lands", or, "They live in the Netherlands". I assume that the use of articles in dutch are different. So my question is, in Dutch, would an article be used to say something like, "I am at the courthouse"? Or would it be a more literal translation such as "I am at courthouse"? I think it is more confusing when people incorrectly capitalize the article "The". In any case, perhaps I am late to the game and this has been said before.

Just to throw a new question into the mix, is it "my uncle is in the hospital" or "my uncle is in hospital" ? I grew up with "the hospital" but have since encountered just "hospital" from various sources. I first thought it was an American/British thing, but I'm no longer convinced. I don't know of other places (such as the courthouse) where 'the' is optional. No one ever seems to go to store. (Though they might go to court, but it would be in the courthouse.) Curious.


I think the "the hospital" versus "hospital" is a U.S. versus the-rest-of-the-English-speaking-world thing. To Americans, hospital is only a place, and not a state of being; "I'm in the hospital", not "I'm in hospital". And yet, we would say that "Cuegan are in Time", and not "Cuegan are in the Time".
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:21 pm UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:I think the "the hospital" versus "hospital" is a U.S. versus the-rest-of-the-English-speaking-world thing. To Americans, hospital is only a place, and not a state of being; "I'm in the hospital", not "I'm in hospital". And yet, we would say that "Cuegan are in Time", and not "Cuegan are in the Time".

I thought that, but I hear 'in hospital' from U.S. folks too, so maybe it is just a regional quirk.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TimeLurker » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:35 pm UTC

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mikro2nd wrote:
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lmjb1964 wrote:(In Everything is Illuminated, one of the characters is a Ukrainian man; at one point he tells the American protagonist that he doesn't understand why Americans say "the Ukraine.")

Interesting to know, dreiarmumig, that German also uses the article. Does that happen with other country names in German? Maybe that's where we got it from. I always wondered why it became "the Ukraine." charlie, you seem to suggest that it's something that the USSR started.
"The Unites States of America"? I don't think I've ever heard it called just "United States" or "US" or "USA"... it's always "The US" etc.

Growing up in Ohio we also had tOSU, or the Ohio State University. Everyone around us hated it because we sounded so conceded, but being a Buckeye, I loved it because I thought we deserved it.

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ucim wrote:No, "y'all" is singular. The plural is "all y'all"
I think you mean ambiguous. Y'all refers to a select group which could be singular or plural e.g. "How y'all doin". All y'all is always plural and refers to a general group, or everyone within ear shot "All y'all listen up now".
Edit: Of course there's also "yous guys" if you're in the vicinity of New Jersey.


“Y'all” grates on my nerves largely because it's used incorrectly so often. If the phrase “you all” can be properly substituted, then “y'all” is a correct dialect-specific second-person plural.
But I really can't stand it when “y'all” is used by people from outside of the “y'all” zone. I will not tolerate my children using the term, and I try to, um, discourage my Wisconsinite man from using it as well. (Of course, this leads to him trying to fit “y'all” into sentences as many times as he can, but if he gets too silly he laughs so hard that he can't breathe, so it's a self-limiting irritation :wink:)
On the other hand, American English really needs a second-person plural. “Y'all” is already entrenched in much of the country, but I've been waging a campaign for the use of “youse” for a few years now. :lol:

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby charlie_grumbles » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:00 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:02 pm UTC

SBN wrote:
k.bookbinder wrote:I think the "the hospital" versus "hospital" is a U.S. versus the-rest-of-the-English-speaking-world thing. To Americans, hospital is only a place, and not a state of being; "I'm in the hospital", not "I'm in hospital". And yet, we would say that "Cuegan are in Time", and not "Cuegan are in the Time".

I thought that, but I hear 'in hospital' from U.S. folks too, so maybe it is just a regional quirk.


It might be a sign of migration. A lot of Canadians in South Florida will say "in hospital".

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mikro2nd wrote:
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lmjb1964 wrote:(In Everything is Illuminated, one of the characters is a Ukrainian man; at one point he tells the American protagonist that he doesn't understand why Americans say "the Ukraine.")

Interesting to know, dreiarmumig, that German also uses the article. Does that happen with other country names in German? Maybe that's where we got it from. I always wondered why it became "the Ukraine." charlie, you seem to suggest that it's something that the USSR started.
"The Unites States of America"? I don't think I've ever heard it called just "United States" or "US" or "USA"... it's always "The US" etc.

Growing up in Ohio we also had tOSU, or the Ohio State University. Everyone around us hated it because we sounded so conceded, but being a Buckeye, I loved it because I thought we deserved it.


I have to say, and please, take no offense, but while studying and living in Ohio, I became an ardent supporter of the anti-"the OSU". :oops: To me, it was not that it sounded conceited or anything, it just sounded...um...well...stupid. I did not mind so much if people said "the Ohio State University", but when they would say "the OSU", no. It just sounded dumb. I am very sorry TimeLurker, again, this is nothing against you, but I have also heard some OSU fans in Columbus actually say things like "I watched the The Ohio State game". Really?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:05 pm UTC

TimeLurker wrote:Ketchup post (Yay, my first!)

Growing up in Ohio we also had tOSU, or the Ohio State University. Everyone around us hated it because we sounded so conceded, but being a Buckeye, I loved it because I thought we deserved it.

This made me laugh. I'm quite sure you meant conceited, but I'd not have pointed it out, except for what you wrote below:

TimeLurker wrote:I do the same thing to my wife, only I say "cray-cray" or pronounce words wrong on purpose. It drives her nuts, but I have to be careful because I've actually gotten so hooked on a couple prounounciations I'm stuck with them now.


conceded To acknowledge, often reluctantly, as being true, just, or proper; admit.
conceited Having an excessively favorable opinion of one's abilities, appearance, etc.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby charlie_grumbles » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:08 pm UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:It might be a sign of migration. A lot of Canadians in South Florida will say "in hospital".

It isn't just that people migrate. Language does too. It's a small world. Someone who normally says "in the hospital" hears/reads "in hospital", likes it, picks it up. Others hear it and repeat it. It spreads. I sometimes say math and sometimes say maths, etc.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sciscitor » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:10 pm UTC

tinosoph wrote:
mikro2nd wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:(In Everything is Illuminated, one of the characters is a Ukrainian man; at one point he tells the American protagonist that he doesn't understand why Americans say "the Ukraine.")

Interesting to know, dreiarmumig, that German also uses the article. Does that happen with other country names in German? Maybe that's where we got it from. I always wondered why it became "the Ukraine." charlie, you seem to suggest that it's something that the USSR started.

"The Unites States of America"? I don't think I've ever heard it called just "United States" or "US" or "USA"... it's always "The US" etc.


It's not very common in German. Only a few exceptions like Die Niederlande, die Mongolei, der Libanon or der Tschad. Oh, and die USA of course. So if you see "Die USA" printed anywhere, don't jump to the conclusion you're dealing with terrorists. Could be Germans too.

Oh, and let me add die Schweiz, der Vatikan, der Iran, der Irak, die Vereinigten Arabischen Emirate, die Ukraine (as has been mentioned before), die Slowakei und der Kongo. I am sure there may be some more.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TimeLurker » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:13 pm UTC

tOSU update.
k.bookbinder, no offense take, I know that it irritates people and that's part of why I liked it. That being said, I only condone "the Ohio State University" and would never say "the OSU". That does sound dumb. Splitting hairs, sure, but that's how I feel.

SBN, thank you for catching my mistake. Words are hard and I don't feel like spell checking everything. I laughed myself after seeing that my mistake was in a sentence proclaiming our superiority. :D

Also, on the OTC. I think Megan bopped the beesnake. It's the first violent act against nature!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:18 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby speising » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:19 pm UTC

Sciscitor wrote:
tinosoph wrote:
mikro2nd wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:(In Everything is Illuminated, one of the characters is a Ukrainian man; at one point he tells the American protagonist that he doesn't understand why Americans say "the Ukraine.")

Interesting to know, dreiarmumig, that German also uses the article. Does that happen with other country names in German? Maybe that's where we got it from. I always wondered why it became "the Ukraine." charlie, you seem to suggest that it's something that the USSR started.

"The Unites States of America"? I don't think I've ever heard it called just "United States" or "US" or "USA"... it's always "The US" etc.


It's not very common in German. Only a few exceptions like Die Niederlande, die Mongolei, der Libanon or der Tschad. Oh, and die USA of course. So if you see "Die USA" printed anywhere, don't jump to the conclusion you're dealing with terrorists. Could be Germans too.

Oh, and let me add die Schweiz, der Vatikan, der Iran, der Irak, die Vereinigten Arabischen Emirate, die Ukraine (as has been mentioned before), die Slowakei und der Kongo. I am sure there may be some more.


grammatical gender opens a whole 'nother can of worms, of course.
i can't think from the top of my head of any good reason why some countries are male, others female or neutral. just like rivers, "die donau", but "der rhein", for example.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:19 pm UTC

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That was here. I fixed it - somehow something odd must have gotten pasted in, and my comapadtime was overdue so I missed it.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby CasCat » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:20 pm UTC

TimeLurker wrote:tOSU update.
k.bookbinder, no offense take, I know that it irritates people and that's part of why I liked it. That being said, I only condone "the Ohio State University" and would never say "the OSU". That does sound dumb. Splitting hairs, sure, but that's how I feel.

SBN, thank you for catching my mistake. Words are hard and I don't feel like spell checking everything. I laughed myself after seeing that my mistake was in a sentence proclaiming our superiority. :D


It's an Internet Rule. Any post correcting someone else or claiming superiority will contain an obvious error (usually spelling or grammar)....

TimeLurker wrote:Also, on the OTC. I think Megan bopped the beesnake. It's the first violent act against nature!


Nah, the beesnake flew off downhill. Cueball pulled at the plant a bit and it sprang back; Megan is bopping it to see it spring back (or maybe to see the seedhead break up...?). (How DO you punctuate that previous sentence, anyway???
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby akacat » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:23 pm UTC

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Perhaps we should publish the stories written here on FanFiction or some similar website.
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It is all related :shock:

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akacat wrote:The Archive of Our Own (aka A03) is already expecting you: http://archiveofourown.org/tags/xkcd/works.

How did I miss that post?
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I think it was at the bottom of a page? Posts at the bottom of pages seem to get overlooked. Being a GOAT isn't all it's cracked up to be. :lol:

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tinosoph wrote:It's not very common in German. Only a few exceptions like Die Niederlande, die Mongolei, der Libanon or der Tschad. Oh, and die USA of course. So if you see "Die USA" printed anywhere, don't jump to the conclusion you're dealing with terrorists. Could be Germans too.

That reminds me -- why do people refer to other countries by the wrong name? Like Germany, the name is really Deutschland, right? So why do English speaking people call it Germany? It's not like it's terribly difficult to pronounce Deutschland. Nobody refers to Bach as "John Brook", so why do we do this with country names?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TimeLurker » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:29 pm UTC

CasCat wrote:
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TimeLurker wrote:tOSU update.
k.bookbinder, no offense take, I know that it irritates people and that's part of why I liked it. That being said, I only condone "the Ohio State University" and would never say "the OSU". That does sound dumb. Splitting hairs, sure, but that's how I feel.

SBN, thank you for catching my mistake. Words are hard and I don't feel like spell checking everything. I laughed myself after seeing that my mistake was in a sentence proclaiming our superiority. :D


It's an Internet Rule. Any post correcting someone else or claiming superiority will contain an obvious error (usually spelling or grammar)....
TimeLurker wrote:Also, on the OTC. I think Megan bopped the beesnake. It's the first violent act against nature!


Nah, the beesnake flew off downhill. Cueball pulled at the plant a bit and it sprang back; Megan is bopping it to see it spring back (or maybe to see the seedhead break up...?). (How DO you punctuate that previous sentence, anyway???

Well, it's still violent, no?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:31 pm UTC

mikro2nd wrote:"The Unites States of America"? I don't think I've ever heard it called just "United States" or "US" or "USA"... it's always "The US" etc.

Hrm, we do still use 'the' before the country.. but most Americans don't use the whole thing. It's typically just "the united states" or "the US." The only exception is when there's chanting of some sort or another (sports, olympics, etc), in which case it's just "U.S.A."

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I feel this way every time I watch a Dutch movie. Even though I can't speak the language... there are many times it just sounds like English to me. Loads of similar words.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jovialbard » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:31 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:
BlueCrab wrote:
AluisioASG wrote:I was wondering...
Perhaps we should publish the stories written here on FanFiction or some similar website.
Of course, most of them require previous knowledge of the OTT, but still...

akacat wrote:The Archive of Our Own (aka A03) is already expecting you: http://archiveofourown.org/tags/xkcd/works.

Whoa. You mean this has happened before? People have charted and storied and written new songs of their people, and it's happened enough that there's an organized archive of it?

“All this has happened before, and it will all happen again.” - Opening narration, Peter Pan 1953

It is all related :shock:


And said quote was picked up by the STO faction (BSG and its backstory for the innocents out there). Who'd have thought that they actually meant The OneTrueThread? Which means... we're all actually in the distant past, hundreds of light-years away from Earth!


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