1190: "Time"
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BlitzGirl wrote:Looks vaguely like Hiragana, but I have no idea if these are actual Hiragana characters.
The second one does look like "so" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/そ).
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Eutychus wrote: Is it part of the Voynich manuscript?
My thoughts went there... right after the music, and I don't think so, based on one photo of a page I pulled up, but I'm no expert.
It also doesn't look indus (based on wikipedia glancing)
But Voynich would make so much sense, and be rather unhelpful.
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The first and last symbols are mirrors of one another, except for that degree-looking dot.
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No. Nor are they katakana, kanji, Korean or Chinese.FullOfIt wrote:BlitzGirl wrote:Looks vaguely like Hiragana, but I have no idea if these are actual Hiragana characters.
I just checked. Nothing like it in the Voynich Manuscript, nor in The Codex Seraphinianus. I think I'd need more samples before I can take a stab at a lexical analysis.
And it's definitely not Klingon.
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BlitzGirl wrote:The first and last symbols are mirrors of one another, except for that degree-looking dot.
Well spotted. I vote for this indicating that the characters inside are meant as a question.
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ofvn2vw1872 wrote:Eutychus wrote: Is it part of the Voynich manuscript?
My thoughts went there... right after the music, and I don't think so, based on one photo of a page I pulled up, but I'm no expert.
It also doesn't look indus (based on wikipedia glancing)
But Voynich would make so much sense, and be rather unhelpful.
This has already been quoted on the OTT, but seems relevant again...
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If this is at all based on cursive Hebrew, I can recognize four of the letters. The first letter (right to left, as Hebrew is generally read) could be a zayin, the second word's first letter is possibly a tet, the second letter of that word would be daled, and the final letter would be gimel. However, Hebrew would only make sense if combined with something else, since the second letter of the first word (assuming right to left reading) is not a letter in Hebrew at all, not even with wild extrapolations like those needed to call the first letter a cursive zayin.
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7, another of my predictions seems to be coming true! I agree that one of the characters looks like そ, but none of the others are hiragana.
I think they're saying, 'Huh? Weird.' or 'Speak properly!' or 'I seem to be having a dreadful problem with the position of the towel between my toes. You don't happen to have any kumquats, do you?'
I think they're saying, 'Huh? Weird.' or 'Speak properly!' or 'I seem to be having a dreadful problem with the position of the towel between my toes. You don't happen to have any kumquats, do you?'
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GerardE wrote:BlitzGirl wrote:The first and last symbols are mirrors of one another, except for that degree-looking dot.
Well spotted. I vote for this indicating that the characters inside are meant as a question.
Or that the pitch is to be lowered one half-flat (half flat to full flat) over the course of the phrase.
This has already been quoted on the OTT, but seems relevant again...
The problem is that the drawing of the Voynich characters in that comic are pretty spot on, and these would have to be pretty approximate to fit.
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Angelastic wrote:'I seem to be having a dreadful problem with the position of the towel between my toes. You don't happen to have any kumquats, do you?'
How about "I seem to be having tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle"?
/surely not obscure here
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I don't think we'll find a match, even searching all of Unicode. It would give us a pretty precise geographical location, and I don't believe that'd be what Lord Randall would want 

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Eutychus wrote:Angelastic wrote:'I seem to be having a dreadful problem with the position of the towel between my toes. You don't happen to have any kumquats, do you?'
How about "I seem to be having tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle"?
/surely not obscure here
I was actually thinking of that very quote, but I wan't sure of the exact wording and couldn't be bothered looking it up, so I just started the phrase in the same manner and then continued with whatever monkey-taco-pseudorandom nonsense I happened to think of. Towels were naturally not far from my mind.
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Angelastic: 
The context of the quote seems very appropriate here. I've wondered several times whether there wouldn't a some point turn out to have been an "unfortunate error of scale" whereupon Cuegan are swallowed by a small dog...

The context of the quote seems very appropriate here. I've wondered several times whether there wouldn't a some point turn out to have been an "unfortunate error of scale" whereupon Cuegan are swallowed by a small dog...
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I think the key to discovering this language may start with identifying what language use that kind of open & closed inquisitive marks. I'm looking right now, but I don't know much about this kind of thing.
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Sounds like you have a tentative argument here. If the same structure appears in a future frame, with different characters between them, then this would be a reasonable conclusion. Roll on more data.GerardE wrote:BlitzGirl wrote:The first and last symbols are mirrors of one another, except for that degree-looking dot.
Well spotted. I vote for this indicating that the characters inside are meant as a question.
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Well, Cuegan probably doesn't know this language, if it's the same as the one etched into the wowtrees:
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(I assume the title in your post, TimeWater, is a typo, but it could also be subliminal, I suppose!)taixzo wrote:TimeWaiter
Mongo cool! (that's like "neat", only moreso). Also neat is that Jonathan Coulton does a song a week... all GPL. That's a lot of new songs! Wonder if he'd be interested in seeing your ottification - he sounds like somebody who would enjoy the thread.
Nah. They are saying that their hovercraft is full of eels.Angelastic wrote:I think they're saying, 'Huh? Weird.' or 'Speak properly!' or 'I seem to be having a dreadful problem with the position of the towel between my toes. You don't happen to have any kumquats, do you?'
Good prediction btw.
(the "problem...lifestyle" quote seems to have some mememity... hmmmm.
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LoonieSpace wrote:Hmmm. A couple characters look like Hebrew script and at least one character looks Greek but otherwise looks gibberish-y to me.
Darn you! Yes, the first character looks a bit like a backwards Lamed:
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I think the first person said, "You're a scarecrow, you should eat something."
ETA: alas, I don't know Hebrew script. But Wikipedia does, and some of them look pretty close. (But not enough to be conclusive...)
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Hebrew? First looks like gimmel, last like zain?
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At this point, it would not surprise me if GLR took symbols from four or five different scripts, mustarded them up a bit, and used that as Beanie-ish.
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Back from t'outside. Ooh, weird other language! If Beanie-ish is indeed a completely fictional language, that makes it pretty much certain it's set far in the future OR in a strange Randallverse.
We won't ch*rp your m*stard? (Excuse my language)
"Heigh-Ho" could in fact be something really sinister in Khuzdul...
All that comes to mind...
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Nope, Cumbria (Far north-west, on border with Scotland). I don't have a particularly strong accent for the area though.
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I thought that "Heigh-Ho" was pronounced "Hi-Ho," not "Hey-Ho."
Who can say for sure? Mysterious are the ways of the Dwarves.
"Heigh-Ho" could in fact be something really sinister in Khuzdul...
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CameronCat wrote:The audio is great. My term "clipped" refers to your particular British accent and the way you handle certain vowels and final consonants. It is neither the broad (or posh) version nor the nasal twang of, say, Manchester or --Randall help us! -- Glasgow.
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Nope, Cumbria (Far north-west, on border with Scotland). I don't have a particularly strong accent for the area though.
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I've been trawling through Unicode code sheets, and I can't find a set that includes all of our mysterious characters. If they are a real language (not invented by GLR, that is), it would either a) have to be one where the written form can vary significantly (which is many, to be honest) or b) one not represented in Unicode. The closest I came was aboriginal Canadian syllabics, but I really don't think they match well.
I'd generally agree. I wish he didn't mustard them up, because then we could use them as they were in the OTT. As it is, I tried matching most of them up to no avail (or, at least, not close enough to satisfy me).
BlitzGirl wrote:At this point, it would not surprise me if GLR took symbols from four or five different scripts, mustarded them up a bit, and used that as Beanie-ish.
I'd generally agree. I wish he didn't mustard them up, because then we could use them as they were in the OTT. As it is, I tried matching most of them up to no avail (or, at least, not close enough to satisfy me).
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By Crikey, you could be onto something there!BlitzGirl wrote:Well, Cuegan probably doesn't know this language, if it's the same as the one etched into the wowtrees:Spoiler:
If they did read those words, she most likely never heard the language - and while we are reading those characters, we neither know what they sound like, nor does Megan have access to the written script in that speech bubble.
What if these people cleared out this area, and erected those towers to eavesdrop and monitor the people below? Think it was a prelude to something like an invasion?
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It could, of course, be the case that Beanong is actually a perfectly normal current-earth language – might as well be Dutch – but simply one that Cuegan doesn't know. So, they hear gibberish, and thus we see gibberish.
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I'm going to say that I think this is a real language, although it may be an obscure one. We need to get a picture of this on some linguist forum and see if someone recognizes it.
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Since what's being said is shown in these strange characters, then it's from the perspective of the speaker, not Cuegan. I'd like to see this from Cuegan's perspective, i.e., written in English characters to show what is sounds like.
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I examined all the unicode transliteration tables and there is no match. There are some close calls, like Tibetan and Amharic, but no match.
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I wonder if they'll speak the same language as the people she sees.
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