1257: "Monster"

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1257: "Monster"

Postby dalcde » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:21 am UTC

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Title text: "It was finally destroyed with a nuclear weapon carrying the destructive energy of the Hiroshima bomb."

So what's the punchline?

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby rhomboidal » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:23 am UTC

This monster sounds familiar. I think Godzilla might've fought it/fucked it in the 19th sequel or thereabouts...

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby cwhereup » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:32 am UTC

Oh no there's more of them! If stacked end-to-end they would reach the moon and back seven times!

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby ucim » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:45 am UTC

dalcde wrote:So what's the punchline?
... that the monster is described entirely by arbitrary comparisons, probably without regard to the actual measurements involved? The result comes out something like the farad.

btw, I think this is the first comic showing unbound blonde hair front-on like that.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby dalcde » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:55 am UTC

ucim wrote:
dalcde wrote:So what's the punchline?
... that the monster is described entirely by arbitrary comparisons, probably without regard to the actual measurements involved? The result comes out something like the farad.

btw, I think this is the first comic showing unbound blonde hair front-on like that.

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Well, "runs as fast as a cheetah" is definitely much more informative than "runs at 120 km/h".

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby hetas » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:12 am UTC

dalcde wrote:Well, "runs as fast as a cheetah" is definitely much more informative than "runs at 120 km/h".

Runs as fast as highway traffic works even better for me.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby Djehutynakht » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:15 am UTC

rhomboidal wrote:This monster sounds familiar. I think Godzilla might've fought it/fucked it in the 19th sequel or thereabouts...



...that's a very interesting "either...or..."

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby da Doctah » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:17 am UTC

What we need is someone faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, and able to leap tall buildings at a single bound.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby Quicksilver » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:23 am UTC

da Doctah wrote:What we need is someone faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, and able to leap tall buildings at a single bound.
That'd be super.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:27 am UTC

Quicksilver wrote:
da Doctah wrote:What we need is someone faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, and able to leap tall buildings at a single bound.

That'd be super.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby TheRedSeven » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:44 am UTC

But how many Libraries of Congress can it hold in its memory?

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby Sqee » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:03 am UTC

I was there when there when they took it down. It was more afraid of us than we of it. It tasted like chicken, though.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby obarey » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:29 am UTC

da Doctah wrote:What we need is someone faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, and able to leap tall buildings at a single bound.

I prefer a man dressed like a bat.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby Diadem » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:29 am UTC

dalcde wrote:Well, "runs as fast as a cheetah" is definitely much more informative than "runs at 120 km/h".

Unless you get regularly chased by cheetahs, I don't see how that could possibly be more informative.
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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby Philip Thomas » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:32 am UTC

I can do slower than a speeding bullet, less powerful than a locomotive, and unable to leap tall buildings at a single bound.

A nuclear weapon with the power of the Hiroshima Bomb? Pretty tiny by today's nuclear weapon standards...
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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby Klear » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:22 am UTC

...so.... why didn't they simply squash it like a bug and be done with it?

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby da Doctah » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:28 am UTC

Philip Thomas wrote:I can do slower than a speeding bullet, less powerful than a locomotive, and unable to leap tall buildings at a single bound.

I need a hero who's faster than a speeding building and can leap tall bullets.

(True story: someone back in the '60s wrote a letter to one of the DC Comics titles asking who was the first superhero. The editor suggested that cavemen probably spun yarns around the campfire about someone who was "faster than a speeding deer, more powerful than a buffalo, and able to leap tall cliffs at a single bound". I remember thinking that all the standards against which Supey was measured required some sort of technology and industry.)

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby CharlieP » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:33 am UTC

Is it as tall as a double-decker bus?
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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby solune » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:58 am UTC

Philip Thomas wrote:A nuclear weapon with the power of the Hiroshima Bomb? Pretty tiny by today's nuclear weapon standards...


As long as we don't measure it in tons of TNT...

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby Jamaican Castle » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:09 am UTC

solune wrote:
Philip Thomas wrote:A nuclear weapon with the power of the Hiroshima Bomb? Pretty tiny by today's nuclear weapon standards...


As long as we don't measure it in tons of TNT...


One of these days I'd like to see a comedy sketch where an explosion is described as X kilotons, and then we see a picture of somebody actually setting off an X-thousand-ton pile of dynamite. (Ignoring that X thousand tons of dynamite would probably not yield a blast of X kilotons under real conditions. We're idealizing here.)

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby Kit. » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:07 am UTC

But... is there any non-comparative measure of the monster's intelligence?

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby dalcde » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:27 am UTC

Actually all measures are relative. Mass in kilogram is relative to that of the International Prototype of the Kilogram. Time in seconds is relative to the time of the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium-133 atom.

(Okay the number of people is not a relative measure, but you get my point)

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby JamesLucas » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:36 am UTC

Come on, Randall—get that weak hyphenation mess outta here! Did you learn nothing from The 40-Year-Old Virgin?

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby Flumble » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:29 am UTC

Isn't it a frequently made-comparisons monster?

dalcde wrote:Actually all measures are relative. Mass in kilogram is relative to that of the International Prototype of the Kilogram. Time in seconds is relative to the time of the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium-133 atom.

(Okay the number of people is not a relative measure, but you get my point)

We could make our measures 'absolute' by using Planck units. Too bad they're often impractical (there are about 1600000000000000000000000 YtP in a day) and the error bars are quite large.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby blazemongr » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:30 am UTC

Is this possibly a follow-up to his blah post about how much he hates numbers without context?

http://blog.xkcd.com/2013/05/15/dictionary-of-numbers/

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby TheAbstractor » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:59 am UTC

Reminds me of this kids' book, if you're familar with it.

http://www.amazon.com/Dogzilla-digest-D ... s=dogzilla

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby pkcommando » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:08 pm UTC

CharlieP wrote:Is it as tall as a double-decker bus?

It's actually 1.5 Empire State Buildings.

And its poop would fill an Olympic-sized swimming pool.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby Barstro » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:38 pm UTC

Let's see.

A cheetah's top speed is 120 kph (33.3 m/s) (EDIT: I think I have the correct figure now)
A blue whale has a mass of 170,000 kilograms

Momentum is P=20,400,000 5,666,667. I have no idea what that translates into. Anyone have a good comparison?

However, with the mass of a blue whale, but three times as long, it's density seems pretty low. Unless, of course, it has a very narrow cross-section.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby astralica » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:55 pm UTC

How long does it need to skeletonize a cow?



I recall once reading a description of a comic drawn by Gary Larson in which Larson said that he always thought that it was strange that the cow was standard unit for this sort of thing.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby The other mac » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:57 pm UTC

I caught myself briefly wondering whether "enough people to fill a stadium" meant bodies piled on top of one another across the whole pitch, filling it right up to the top of the stands, or... the sane option that I'm suppose to think of.

Just so you know, London's Wembly stadium could hold 17,155,120 and a half people.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby EpeeGnome » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:02 pm UTC

I've always wondered about the comparison 'enough people to fill a stadium.' Does that mean enough to fill every seat, or enough to fill its surfaces like a rush hour subway car, or enough to fill it volumetrically, brimming to the top? This bothers me because there is at least an order of magnitude between the first interpretation and the last.

Edit: Ha! seems I'm not the only one wanting an answer to that.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby pkcommando » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:04 pm UTC

The other mac wrote:I caught myself briefly wondering whether "enough people to fill a stadium" meant bodies piled on top of one another across the whole pitch, filling it right up to the top of the stands, or... the sane option that I'm suppose to think of.

Just so you know, London's Wembly stadium could hold 17,155,120 and a half people.

Wait, the first one ISN'T the sane one? :shock:

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby spacedunce5 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:21 pm UTC

Shouldn't it be "devastated an area the size of Manhattan"?

(BTW I registered specifically to post that.)

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby cellocgw » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:22 pm UTC

obarey wrote:
da Doctah wrote:What we need is someone faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, and able to leap tall buildings at a single bound.

I prefer a man dressed like a bat.

I was going to say manbearpig, but what the heck.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby Kit. » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:31 pm UTC

Barstro wrote:Let's see.

A cheetah's top speed is 120 kph (33.3 m/s) (EDIT: I think I have the correct figure now)
A blue whale has a mass of 170,000 kilograms

Momentum is P=20,400,000 5,666,667. I have no idea what that translates into. Anyone have a good comparison?

However, with the mass of a blue whale, but three times as long, it's density seems pretty low. Unless, of course, it has a very narrow cross-section.

When I started to read it, I thought that the "monster" was actually a railroad train. A BART-like train with about 5 cars fits the characteristics pretty well... although its intelligence and its effect on the area might be a bit exaggerated.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby davidstarlingm » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:48 pm UTC

Barstro wrote:Let's see.

A cheetah's top speed is 120 kph (33.3 m/s) (EDIT: I think I have the correct figure now)
A blue whale has a mass of 170,000 kilograms

Momentum is P=20,400,000 5,666,667. I have no idea what that translates into. Anyone have a good comparison?

Better to look at kinetic energy, which is around 1e8 Joules -- the same as the kinetic energy of a landing jumbo jet.

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby Kaelin » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:03 pm UTC

Djehutynakht wrote:
rhomboidal wrote:This monster sounds familiar. I think Godzilla might've fought it/fucked it in the 19th sequel or thereabouts...


...that's a very interesting "either...or..."


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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby eran_rathan » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:10 pm UTC

So, I downloaded the Dictionary of Numbers, and got this on davidstarlingm's post:


davidstarlingm wrote:
Barstro wrote:Let's see.

A cheetah's top speed is 120 kph (33.3 m/s) (EDIT: I think I have the correct figure now)
A blue whale has a mass of 170,000 kilograms

Momentum is P=20,400,000 5,666,667. I have no idea what that translates into. Anyone have a good comparison?

Better to look at kinetic energy, which is around 1e8 Joules [≈ Greisen-Zatsepin-Kuzmin theoretical upper limit for the energy of a cosmic ray coming from a distant source] -- the same as the kinetic energy of a landing jumbo jet.


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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby jay35 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:12 pm UTC

So the monster is now deader than a doornail? :)

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Re: 1257: "Monster"

Postby pkcommando » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:17 pm UTC

jay35 wrote:So the monster is now deader than a doornail? :)

But before they killed it, they had to hit it w/ enough tranquilizer to knock out 3 elephants.


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