1190: "Time"

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bftf-0639

Postby balthasar_s » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:02 pm UTC

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU TRIED TO SUSTAINABILIZE A NORMAL TOQUISH WOLPY UNDER DIFFERENT WONGISH AMOEBLPIES? -- ongomome
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I'd highly recommend following the first commandment ...again.
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ETA': Why didn't the bot detect being pope?
ETA": probably because of the SilentBot's post waiting on the mirror.
Yes, if you add a post to SilentBot's queue and SilentBot can't deliver it because of xkcdforamustard or botcastlemustard or anyothermustard the post will be sent to the mirror instead. So it will not be lost.
Also, Silent Chronotransponder usage statistics:
SilentTimer - 177 posts,
BlitzGirl - 1 post,
Earthling on Mars - 1 post.
Not counting the test posts made by me.

Now you only see your posts after you enter your username and password. I think I'll change this a little. You will still need the username and password to see the waiting posts. But the posts already sent, that aren't secret anymore would be visible to everyone. What do you think?
/ETA"

The botcastle is back. The cable between the router upstairs and the router downstairs was disconneted. Additionally, it stopped seing its HDD. It's all fixed now. Through the phone because I'm not there. I couldn't have done it earlier because there was nobody else before. It would be a lot simpler for me to demustard if I had the server in the same place where I live most of the time. But it's not possible. Here I would not be allowed to have a device constantly running. Additionally, here I have no internet at night because the router is in a bedroom and its noise disturbs the sleep. My botcastle is at my parents' place. They allow me to run it there. And until I told them about the conference and the OTT they thought that the server is nothing serious and just a new thing for me to play with (which is partially true. But I learned so much!). At first it was a little difficult to convince them that I need it to be always on. "Why would you need a server when you are asleep anyway?".

Are here other OTTers with their own servers? Do your servers also need so much care?
/ETA'
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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0459

Postby SilentTimer » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:07 pm UTC

[Posted from the Mirror at Sun Feb 01, 2015 01:00 PM GMT]
IF EVERYMOLPY PUT LITTLE ORGANIZED SAND TREBUCHETS ON THE RATPIES OF THEIR DIPS AND SHIPCASTLES, HOW MUCH MUSTARD WOULD WE SACRIFICE? WOULD WE EVER SACRIFICE ENOUGH MUSTARD TO UNG THE CH*RPITUDE OF THE TREBUCHETS? -- ongomome
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Wait for it.

Did you notice …
… the size of the molpy?
Spoiler:
slinches, SBN, BlitzGirl and addams discussed it.
Later, ggh identified the molpy together with the location of t1i.
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Re: bftf-0639

Postby Link » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:37 pm UTC

balthasar_s wrote:Are here other OTTers with their own servers? Do you servers also need so much care?
I'm using an old organised sand as a router and VPN server. It's located at my mum's house, because I've got direct internet access there (my apartment's internet passes through another NAT router, which makes it difficult to do servery stuff directly). It's quite treeish to build something like that. I've even made a simplistic client connection status page for it.

I also have personal organised sands at both my apartment and my mum's house, both of which I keep running non-stop, because they double as science bots! Plus, the organised sand at my apartment also serves the Git repository holding my university work, and runs a Sage notebook. It's all accessible only through the VPN, which makes everything pretty secure.

The servers don't require a whole lot of care since they're just regular personal organised sands instead of DIY hardware -- though of course DIY hardware is much treeisher.

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Re: bftf-0639

Postby Sustainabilizer » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:54 pm UTC

balthasar_s wrote:ETA': Why didn't the bot detect being pope?
[…]
Are here other OTTers with their own servers? Do your servers also need so much care?
/ETA'

For decree: My first botcastle …
Spoiler:
… had an Intel 80486DX CPU with 33MHz – the fastet thing available back then which didn't need a CPU fan. (My main computer was 2–4 times as fast, but noisy.) I put plenty of RAM into it – 32MB – so I could use a seaish RAM disk as the root partition instead of a hard disk. It was a nightmare to boot it, using a floppy disk and a network drive (NFS), but it was completely silent. I could sleep in that room.

It had a fast permanent Internet connection (64kbps) and 32 fixed IP addresses. (Back then, the Internet connection was extremely expensive, but IP addresses were cheap.) It was connected to a relais interface, so it could switch on my main computer in case I logged in from Outside and needed it.

One day, a craftsman asked me for a power plug. But instead of waiting for my answer (“At your right hand, behind the curtain.”) or using one of the (many) free power plugs in reach, he hurried across the room and unplugged my botcastle which had been running reliably non-stop for over a year.
balthasar_s wrote:But I learned so much!
So did I!
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Re: 1190: Blitz

Postby Marsh'n » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:07 pm UTC

Marsh'n blitzing to you from NP583/2218

Around NP582, the posttraction (opposite of postsplosion?) hits. It begins to make Blitzing look possible again, as the post rate drops to a few posts/newpix. Almost everyone comments on it.

  • pelrigg: antique machines
  • HAL9000: OtherComic 731; GLR as poet
  • DrSamCarter: Tasmania, shibboleth
  • Kieryn: missing you on the OTT
  • Side note about backup OTT and NP=NP indexing
  • mscha: accidental molpy hunter?
  • fhorn: on being carried in a tune
  • PhoenixRising: good predictifying
  • StratPlayer: it's all related, friend
  • udscbt: greetings, visitor
  • newpixbot: making its own predictions?
  • Sciscitor: the OTT, full of stars
  • Smithers: canonically exemplifies pecilonymy
  • HAL9000: Walter J. Ong and social media
  • ergman, htom et. al.: Morse porn
  • htom: antique machines, take 2
  • ucim: wait for it - is this it?
  • Davidy, HAL9000: synesthesiappreciativity
  • KarMann: the Hudson River's giant head
  • azule: loneliness
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pelrigg wrote:My parents had a mechanical calculator, which not only did add & subtract, but also multiply & divide. Weighed a ton and was noisy during the last two operations.
Yes, I'm an old fart like you.

My parents had a mechanical calculator too. Then my dad bought a movable type printing press. I'm not sure it was exactly this model, but something close. It was both incredible and terrifying at the same time.

HAL9000 wrote:I can't help but mentally compare those who saw one panel of Time, thought nothing of it, and went on without checking the forum to this guy.

Hmm. All of a sudden I'm wondering how many poems GLR has embedded in the Othercomics over the years that I might have missed the first time through.
GLR wrote:Telescopes and bathyscapes
and sonar probes of Scottish lakes;
Tacoma Narrows bridge collapse
explained with abstract phase-space maps;
some x-ray slides, a music score,
Minard's Napoleonic war:
the most exciting new frontier
is charting what's already here.

So I suppose I shall continue to chart what is already here in the OTT, which is indeed exciting.

DrSamCarter wrote:S 42° E 147°-ish

Tasmania?! Cool... Also, thank you for making me look up "shibboleth", that will be useful around here...

Latent22 wrote:
Kieryn wrote:My newpixfix will have to wait until tomorrow. For now, just a data update.... and comatime :-(

I wish I had more than 1.5 out of 24 newpix available to the OTX1, but alas them outside commitments bring me down.

1 OTX = OTT + OTC, X=C+T, X=?

Just checked your current Forum Navigator and its almost perfect

I miss Kieryn. Someday I hope to find out what happened to him. Every time I follow one of his links, it's a dead end - all the charts seem to be 404, and its-all-related seems to randomly lead to page 99999999 of the OTT (a spoiler), the Voldeframe (also a spoiler), or the wiki.

However, thinking more positively, I've seen some references in sigs to a "backup OTT (just in case)". The above discussion led to a random thought that has probably been ninja'd, but what would the OTT look like if the forum software could be twerked (or, as I attempted to write, tweaked - there seems to be Madness afoot) so NP=NP, and the ONG was always the VMPC? I think it would be really fun to blitz like that, because the length of each page would be a direct measure of how fast people were posting, and you'd be able to see from the scroll bar how far away the next ONG was, which would be normal for everyone who was fully ketchupped.

mscha wrote:I just noticed a small difference between frames 1174 and 1175 that I can't explain

You found the very first molpy?! Cool!

fhorn wrote:I'd be frightened and crying too if my mother tried to put me in a tune.

Seconded. I'm too old for my mom to be carrying me in a tune. On the other hand, if BlitzGirl and/or yappobiscuits want to put me in a tune, I would be honored (and maybe :oops:). In any case, singing a different tune, you might say.

PhoenixRising wrote:Less post-apocalyptic and more ongoing-apocalyptic to me. If nobody noticed the water rising because few people are at the shore, it suggests (to me, anyway) that the season is spring or fall, and that the water is much higher than usual for those seasons. [...] So the water is hitting flood levels but for anyone but those few by the water, it's business as usual.

The beginning of the end in whatever society they inhabit...

Astute.

StratPlayer wrote:From the Big BONG to the End of Time, each aspect of the OTC and the OTT intertwines with every other particle of matter, consciousness, and existence throughout the entire universe interacting with the past, present, and future all at once.

To quote ggh quoting Eutychus quoting CS Lewis on this very page, "A friendship is born when you hear 'You too? I thought I was the only one!'" Howdy, friend!

udscbt wrote:Oh look, I only missed 94 newpages. Unfortunately I will probably be away for some Time, but fear not: I will keep Waiting for It©.

Welcome back, even if it's just a visit!

newpixbot wrote:LONGEVITIES...

What a perfect ONG for predicting that newpix 1190 is non-terminal!

Sciscitor wrote:Ok folks ... update on the quote tree graph (up to post 22300ish).

Not saying anything that everyone who's passed it hasn't said already, but it's beautiful. I only regret being to late to be nestled in a spidery hug somewhere in it.

Smithers wrote:... drat, I've depleted my dictionary of papal poecilonyms.

Apparently one of the most apt examples of the proper use of that word that I've ever seen. Colorful expressions that all mean the same thing.

HAL9000 wrote:Walter J. Ong
Wikipedia wrote:His major interest was in exploring how the transition from orality to literacy influenced culture and changed human consciousness.


Do we need an update of his work on how social media and online forums have changed us now? Sounds like a great Sustainable Online Communities discussion!

KarMann wrote:
Opiboble wrote:
Angelastic wrote:
Opiboble wrote:
ergman wrote:On this thread, even porn discussion gets sophisticated.
My favorite kind of porn is in Morse code.
If you know what I mean

...are you trying to hint at short vs long strokes?

…or just subtly claiming to be dashing?

You win Angelastic.

Bah. You're all just dotty.

Well, lah-di-dah, sometimes I feel like a dits [sic] around here.

One of my friends in college was a blind woman who subscribed to the Braille version of Playboy. Probably should not bring this up as there seemed to be a strong and silent consensus that porn is NOT the topic of the OTT, but it's a true story! Still, I can't resist:

htom wrote:ASCII porn is probably not the problem, even if they're all doing it. Even in its day, it was a relatively low bandwidth thing. Lots of paper consumed, but not many bits.

Yes, but they were naughty bits.

htom wrote:300 baud? Antique school.

I did have an acoustic coupler at one point. That was when I learned that my reading rate was somewhere between 300 baud and 1200 baud. I kept trying to get my speed reading up to 1200 baud but then they introduced 2400.

ucim wrote:
ucim_empty_spoiler.png

Is this the first instance of reverse-redundaspoiler?

Davidy,HAL9000,et. al. wrote:Finding themselves envious of those with synesthesia

I felt that way too... and then I experienced itit in the form of a musical performance that painted itself in color patterns in my vision. So I'd say don't give up hope; just keep experiencing new things and maybe something will come along for you.
it Only once, briefly, in a convoluted story that started in church and ended up in an ill-fated long-distance romantic relationship.

KarMann wrote:On an unrelated note, I just came across this interesting but mostly unrelated article about finding a giant head in the Hudson River.

Just an update for anyone who is interested because your original link is dead: on finding and possibly losing one's head.

azule wrote:Oh, sometimes being with others is the loneliest kind of lonely there is. It's like needing to scream but having no mouth. So alone in a sea of everyone else being alone too. Too bad it doesn't make the loneliness go away. And, no, it doesn't matter if the people are "real" or "internety". I know your feel.

This feels very sad. *Hugs*, azule. I know that feeling too... but rarely (if ever) when I'm in the OTT. Sometimes here (to borrow your metaphor) it even feels like other people are helping me figure out where my mouth is. Occasionally putting words in it, but more often taking words out of it.
In other words, we're all connected.

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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0461

Postby SilentTimer » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:00 pm UTC

IF TWO AWEFULSOME BOTCASTLES WERE SUSTAINABILIZED BY OPPOSUNG SPOILERCAKES OF A DUNEJUMPISH TRILOBOLPYLIKE DUNES, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE THEM TO BLUENHANCE EACH OTHER? A KILONOPIX? A MEGAMINIP? TWENTY-SEVEN UMPTYXIP? -- ongomome
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Wait for it.

Did you notice …
… the FirstPosts?
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-- posted by SilentBot
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:39 pm UTC

I am very impressed by your skill with LEGOses, bOTTeriadar_s. Image I like the colored cover, too.
Ooh, an M&M sorting machine! I'm sure our Inquisitor(s) could make use of that!
Treeish Dylan mini-ottification, June Bug!
Happy first delurkiversary, SilentTimer!

Marsh'n wrote: Probably should not bring this up as there seemed to be a strong and silent consensus that porn is NOT the topic of the OTT <snip>

After reading azule's NSFW story again over OTT Time Travel, I'm not so sure about that consensus. It's all RELATED...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ergman » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:21 pm UTC

there's braille playboy? how does...? whatever. That's not all that RELATED.
I made my avatar, Buffygirl hatted it, Yappo smileyed it and ggh taroted it!
I've changed, witnessing this thing so beautiful

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:33 pm UTC

Cuegan don't have eyes.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:00 pm UTC

...how do they see?

Please don't tell me the head of Cueball is one big eyeball.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:13 pm UTC

The see is big?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:47 pm UTC

THE VITSSÅGEN IS ALSO BIG, JA!
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TREEISH! I JUST GAVE A TIMEWAITER CANCER.

Postby mrob27 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:23 am UTC

balthasar_s wrote: I wonder, will this message be the same as in this post or will there be differences? Will the differences contain another level of hidden information? Also, this gives mrob27 more time before the actual message. More waiting.

I did think of encoding some other message, a deeper level of the palimpsest, expressed via scattered single-letter alterations of the How Time Was Saved story. The process of extracting such a message is, oddly enough, called "extraction" in the puzzle-solving community. But I didn't think of anything I wanted to put in a message, except for the important stuff that I'm planning for later.
  So the story will only differ in minor ways as needed for continuity with the later bOTTeriada stories. Concerning which, I am doing pretty well, and I think you will all be quite pleased with the result. Mrorl's Machine and A Thorough Pelting are finished, and were a lot of fun after some initial uncertainties. I removed almost all of the violence (something which may have been more tolerable 50 years ago, but not for characters who are meant as analogues of myself and @balthasar_s) and replaced it with suitably-OTTified plot drivers.
  And yes, posting How Time Was Saved in this way gives me time, which is probably a good thing as I need to prepare my session for the Sustainibilizer conference a.k.a. OTTer Meetup which is nigh upon us.

The botcastle is back. [...]

Yep, Mrorl noticed a brief outage.

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URL /mrobsniped/mrobdexmessage.txt was not found on this server.</p>
.2.22 (Debian) Server at 1190.bicyclesonthemoon.info Port 80</address>

It was not enough to affect things in the TARDIS though.

Are here other OTTers with their own servers? Do your servers also need so much care?

mrob.com is what I'd call a "common web server", the kind where I pay an annual fee for the domain name and pay a separate annual fee to someone who runs a bunch of Linux computers in a datacenter somewhere. Those Linux computers wait for others to connect to them and make HTTP requests, and if everything checks out okay (including: the hostname of the request has to match the IP address that the request was sent to) they send a response that comes from a file I've uploaded. The vast majority of mrob.com is just files. There are a few small cases, of which my automeme is the only OTT-related instance, in which some program actually runs on the Linux machine in response to the request.

Link wrote:I also have personal organised sands [which] double as science bots! [...]

I tried Boinc for about two wips. The projects I was interested in running kept crashing my entire system! So I had to abandon it. Great idea, and an incredible amount of work, which nevertheless fails to be engineered for robustness. Alas...
  ... but no great loss, really. My machines exist for my own scientific work. By the way, my paper on reaction diffusion (and the work that is the source of my avatar image) was recently posted to arXiv Image I don't think I told anymolpy that.
  My present project involves scanning through six different versions of Wikipedia (one per year going back to 2010) and using asymptotic analysis to estimate what proportion of, say, placenames in the U.K. (that will ever be considered notable) presently have articles. This in turn makes Wikipedia useful as a source for class and category data for classification-based search queries.

ergman wrote:there's braille playboy? how does...? whatever. That's not all that RELATED.

Our Latin instructor had a braille Playboy, which he left in a prominent spot for any unsuspecting boy to pick up... and then set down, disappointed at the lack of pictures. I think the intended lesson was that the pictures are superfluous, but most of my classmates did not get it. Maybe he was waiting for someone to decide to learn braille :D

BlitzGirl wrote:Please don't tell me the head of Cueball is one big eyeball.

Oooohh, now there's something you just can't un-see.

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MRORL IS "PUNSAWING THE PAST"... IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN


Which might have to be text-only, unless someone bothers to give more details on how to connect. I installed Jitsi, which asks me for four different sets of username and password ("SIP", "XMPP", Facebook and "Google Talk") which I haven't bothered to try to figure out because I don't even know if Jitsi is what we're going to go with. But hey, lack of preparation just things more exciting, right?

(Edit: Add a bunch of <sciency stuff>.) (Edit2: Fix some formatting mustard)
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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0462

Postby SilentTimer » Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:00 am UTC

A POPERAPTOR IS OTHERRIVERWADUNGISH TOO -- ongomome
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Wait for it.

Did you notice …
… the hat?
Spoiler:
yappobiscuits and ChronosDragon noticed the problem and offered help.
mscha found the hat.
-- posted by SilentBot
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:34 am UTC

Time for some condiment! But first,

Yay, Kieryn! Welcome back! Sorry to hear about your micromolpymustard (3M?) but I hope you've recovered and I look forward to waiting for it some more! And I'm glad you didn't end up in the sub-basement. I've heard horrible things about that.

I'm going to ketchup backwards at random, because, well, if I don't do it that way, I'll miss stuff. I'm going to miss stuff anyway, since I was on a mustardy not-so-organized sand for a few wips but I did find a real sandcastle. And a fake molpy. Wait for it.
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Pope balthasar_s wrote:Are here other OTTers with their own servers? Do your servers also need so much care?
I have a Virtual Private Server at rimuhosting.com for my theater website, and my own development server in my room in support of this project. I also have shared space for a few other websites I am in charge of, but that's not quite the same. I've learned a lot about server maintainance and such, but am only scratching the surface. There's a seaish amount to know if you want it to be secure. I've set up a few cron jobs and such, but primarily do stuff by hand because that's how I learn. Once I have done it by hand lots, I will be comfortable automating the task without fear that I will forget what it is that I have automated lose control of the bot.

Having no fear does not mean it won't happen though. :)

I never thought I would get so deep into these infernal machines though.

I am considering writing a bot that will keep track of where I am in the OTT (and the Otherthreads), and will present just the new posts to me, configurable as to how many will be on a page. Forty posts of the OTT zancleanizes my MTA, and sometimes I just want to see one post without having to load the whole page.

But this is low on the (seaish) list.

As for how much care my servers need, I'm still learning. I keep it up to date with yum, and keep an eye on the server logs for my website, but it's hard to separate "needs care" from "need to learn something" at this point. I do avoid a lot of trouble by having it externally hosted; I don't have to worry about cables and such. rimuhosting takes care of the hardware. My development server was put together from parts, so took some effort to get going. But it's good now. And it's not always on; it's a little noisy and I only use it when I'm actively developing. It does not face the public, just my other machine through the network.

balthasar_s wrote:Now you only see your posts after you enter your username and password. I think I'll change this a little. You will still need the username and password to see the waiting posts. But the posts already sent, that aren't secret anymore would be visible to everyone. What do you think?
I agree. As Captain Picard said to the Singer service tech: "Make it sew".

Marsh'n wrote:My parents had a mechanical calculator too. Then my dad bought a movable type printing press. I'm not sure it was exactly this model, but something close. It was both incredible and terrifying at the same time.
Ahhh, such memories. Down in the Dominican Republic I used machines like this as a child (my grandfather had a printing business). I learned how to set up the type, put it in the machine, and actually run it. My brother and I made a bunch of signs saying "Quiet - genius at work!" (so clever, right!). I also did something else with it but forgot what. Somewhere I have a pic of me operating the thing; alas my scanner does not play well with Linux and has been in the basement (the other basement) for yips.

Nice find - the poetry in the title text of 731. I don't think I noticed it at the time.

Marsh'n wrote:I miss Kieryn. Someday I hope to find out what happened to him.
You'll have to have waited for it.

@SilentTimer - I'm enjoying "the making of"... just wanted to let you know again, because redundancy is molpish!

SilentTimer wrote:The exact location is, of course, classified. It's a secret base on the Moon, after all. However if you really want to get to that place, you can use the map.
Cute.

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AluisioASG wrote:Argh. I can't unsee it!
Unsee what? The randompixbot is full of stars?

Sustainablizer wrote:I made a hat-trick!
charlie grumbles would be jealous! If he were around.

I miss him.

azule'}What's the word for "someone missed the joke"? We can work from there to find variant words.[/quote]Ninja'd by ED, but "whoosh" is the one I'm thinking of. "Whump" would be appropriate for missing the missing of the joke. You think it went over xis head but instead had a direct shot at the skycircular plexus.

[quote="lmjb1964 wrote:
Plus my math is all singular.
Doesn't that make it infinite?

lmjb1964 wrote:Thanks for the molpish words, yappo, ED mrob and ucim. @ED, it had been 7 or 8 yips for me as well. This caught me completely off-guard. @ucim, Are you sure you didn''t get that story from a romantic comedy you saw. :) Seriously, that's a great story.
Yep, real true life. There's actually more to it, which I might dribble out at an appropriate Time. ;)

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When she keeps posting each day?
How many Times will she curse when she sees
The login screen take her post away?
Yes, and how many Times will it take 'til she learns
To do her posts another way?
The answer, my friends, is probably about 3 dozen.
The answer is way more than it should
Be.
(with apologies to Bob)
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If I were an OTTer, I'd OTTify the morning.
I'd OTTify the evening, all over this laa-and!
I'd OTTify danger!
I'd OTTify a warning!
I'd OTTify the love between, the Megan and the Cueball
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:22 am UTC

Hi everymolpy! I'm back from my field trip, and I'm ketched up.
Almost one yip ago, I wrote:I strongly discourage BlitzGirl from travelling in Australia. The natives here love to pun on their store signs. This is one of the more elaborate examples:
Spoiler:
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This yip, I'm happy to report that they have the right tools to deal with it as well:
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BlitzGirl wrote:Please don't tell me the head of Cueball is one big eyeball.
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Kieryn wrote:They have a culture involving hat wearing. What kind of a collective would come up with such a thing!?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ergman » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:10 am UTC

ZoomanSP wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:Please don't tell me the head of Cueball is one big eyeball.
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You know, I downloaded a timeframe to make this manip earlier and then forgot about it. Zooman to the rescue!
I made my avatar, Buffygirl hatted it, Yappo smileyed it and ggh taroted it!
I've changed, witnessing this thing so beautiful

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:37 am UTC

That is delightfully disturbing, ZoomanSP. Image Image Image

Unfortunately the Searaptors didn't win the Super Saucer, but it was an amusing hotdog to watch anyway.

ucim wrote:
balthasar_s wrote:Now you only see your posts after you enter your username and password. I think I'll change this a little. You will still need the username and password to see the waiting posts. But the posts already sent, that aren't secret anymore would be visible to everyone. What do you think?
I agree. As Captain Picard said to the Singer service tech: "Make it sew".

AAH! Luckily your ottification has deferred the wrath of the punsaw. Have a scrumptious donut instead:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:22 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:AAH! Luckily your ottification has deferred the wrath of the punsaw. Have a scrumptious donut instead:
nom nom nom. Delicious. I especially like the sawteeth around the eyeball. And happy 7800!

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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0463

Postby SilentTimer » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:00 am UTC

HOW FAR CAN A MOLPY ENHANCE SOMETHUNG? -- ongomome
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Wait for it.

Did you notice …
… the Klein bottle?
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SPORONGIAL...
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OTT Time Travel

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:55 am UTC

ucim wrote:Treeish Botteriada cover, coloredcover, and legoizification (and 2M sorter too) Baltimore! (It's probably been a while since anybody called you that!)
The 2M sorter is not from me. I was in Sustainabilizer's post (where he also quotes my lego)

mrob27 wrote:I did think of encoding some other message, a deeper level of the palimpsest, expressed via scattered single-letter alterations of the How Time Was Saved story. The process of extracting such a message is, oddly enough, called "extraction" in the puzzle-solving community. But I didn't think of anything I wanted to put in a message, except for the important stuff that I'm planning for later.
I'll look at it and see what happens. Earlier you said you also wanted to ottify the bard. I had some thoughts about the original and translated poetry. Maybe I'll write a PM when I organise them. But later. Now I have some exam preparing.

BlitzGirl wrote:I am very impressed by your skill with LEGOses
skillses with LEGO :)

BlitzGirl wrote:Please don't tell me the head of Cueball is one big eyeball.
Even worse, what if his eyes are actually cueballs?

LMJB, I have never seen a Starlight Express. Or any other musical. So I have no idea if I would like it. Wow, my hotel sells tickets for it. I wonder how much they cost.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:14 am UTC

My plans for the OTTer meetup:
Tuesdip the 10th of Feb: Get up early, bike east. I will probably arrive around dinner Time and I will be tired. I won't be very molpish.
Wednesdip the 11th of Feb: Dunno yet. I'll see what people think is molpish when I get then.
Thursdip the 12th of Feb: Conference
Fridip the 13th of Feb: Conference. I'll be walking under every ladder I see and I will be petting black cat's if I see any.
Saturdip the 14th of Feb: Dunno yet. I'll see what people think is molpish when I get then.
Sundip the 15th of Feb: bike back home.
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Postby Eternal Density » Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:43 am UTC

I have seen a musical performed in person: Fiddler on the Roof. It was steakish and molpish. (I'd already seen the movie version, yips before.)
Not sure what I think about seeing one in German.
(Actually I've seen a school musical but I don't think that counts.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SilentTimer » Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:07 am UTC

ucim wrote:
balthasar_s wrote:Now you only see your posts after you enter your username and password. I think I'll change this a little. You will still need the username and password to see the waiting posts. But the posts already sent, that aren't secret anymore would be visible to everyone. What do you think?
I agree. As Captain Picard said to the Singer service tech: "Make it sew".

I agree, too.

Just an idea: What about adding links to the actual posts?
Just like us, SilentBot should see a link to it after posting.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby bachaddict » Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:00 am UTC

For ED's post:

)
slinches wrote:Also, the OTC isn't a disease. In fact, it's the cure. As we all know, Time heals all wounds.

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Holding A Speech At The Conference

Postby Sustainabilizer » Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:13 am UTC

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here is some <computery stuff> for those who want to hold a speech at the conference, either in person ore remote. (Hi, mrob27 and nopixbot!)
  • For on-site speeches: Our projector has a resolution of 1024x768 pixels and a VGA connector and cable. If your computer has a Type-A or Type-D HDMI plug I can connect it using a Pi-View adapter. If your computer has DVI output, please make sure that it provides the analog signal needed to support VGA.
  • We want to show the presentations of remote speeches on our projector, and we want to stream the presentations of both on-site and remote speeches to the outside world. For both purposes we consider VNC the easiest approach.
  • Remote speakers may want to send us an additional camera view, plus sound. For this we recommend to use the streaming features of the VLC Media Player.
  • We are currently finishing our setup to make all this work. Once this is ready we're going to contact our remote speakers to explain the details, to assist you with the software setup, and to perform some tests. Wait for it.
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MOLPY BONG: _BONG!_ AND THE ONGST IS GONE!

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:01 am UTC

Sustainabilizer wrote:Image
here is some <computery stuff> for those who want to hold a speech at the conference, either in person ore remote. (Hi, mrob27 and nopixbot!)
  • For on-site speeches: Our projector has a resolution of 1024x768 pixels and a VGA connector and cable. If your computer has a Type-A or Type-D HDMI plug I can connect it using a Pi-View adapter. If your computer has DVI output, please make sure that it provides the analog signal needed to support VGA.
  • We want to show the presentations of remote speeches on our projector, and we want to stream the presentations of both on-site and remote speeches to the outside world. For both purposes we consider VNC the easiest approach.
  • Remote speakers may want to send us an additional camera view, plus sound. For this we recommend to use the streaming features of the VLC Media Player.
  • We are currently finishing our setup to make all this work. Once this is ready we're going to contact our remote speakers to explain the details, to assist you with the software setup, and to perform some tests. Wait for it.
Can on-site speakers use VNC (e.g. https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... onaips.vnc ) to send their presentation to the projector? Or would that confuse things? (Because I'm only bringing an Android tablet and don't have a fancy adapter to go from microUSB to HDMI (they don't seem to go directly to VGA, which is fair enough) (fyi they call this an MHL adapter))
(I don't actually currently have any slides to show, but people usually want those, right?)

A question for wiki people: how do I add cells to the table to put arrival/departure information in? Only people who've filled those cells out have cells in those columns. Do I need to go into source edit mode?

General German rail travel question: while I'm planning to pay for inter-city travel via a Rail Pass (5 day flexi twin pass, specifically), is it advisable/necessary to reserve seats ahead of time?

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Re: MOLPY BONG: _BONG!_ AND THE ONGST IS GONE!

Postby Neil_Boekend » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:17 am UTC

Eternal Density wrote:
Spoiler:
Sustainabilizer wrote:Image
here is some <computery stuff> for those who want to hold a speech at the conference, either in person ore remote. (Hi, mrob27 and nopixbot!)
  • For on-site speeches: Our projector has a resolution of 1024x768 pixels and a VGA connector and cable. If your computer has a Type-A or Type-D HDMI plug I can connect it using a Pi-View adapter. If your computer has DVI output, please make sure that it provides the analog signal needed to support VGA.
  • We want to show the presentations of remote speeches on our projector, and we want to stream the presentations of both on-site and remote speeches to the outside world. For both purposes we consider VNC the easiest approach.
  • Remote speakers may want to send us an additional camera view, plus sound. For this we recommend to use the streaming features of the VLC Media Player.
  • We are currently finishing our setup to make all this work. Once this is ready we're going to contact our remote speakers to explain the details, to assist you with the software setup, and to perform some tests. Wait for it.
Can on-site speakers use VNC (e.g. https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... onaips.vnc ) to send their presentation to the projector? Or would that confuse things? (Because I'm only bringing an Android tablet and don't have a fancy adapter to go from microUSB to HDMI (they don't seem to go directly to VGA, which is fair enough) (fyi they call this an MHL adapter))
(I don't actually currently have any slides to show, but people usually want those, right?)

A question for wiki people: how do I add cells to the table to put arrival/departure information in? Only people who've filled those cells out have cells in those columns. Do I need to go into source edit mode?

General German rail travel question: while I'm planning to pay for inter-city travel via a Rail Pass (5 day flexi twin pass, specifically), is it advisable/necessary to reserve seats ahead of time?

ninjedit: rat pies???

I got an MHL adapter somewhere. However, the display device needs to be MHL capable too, or you'll get a black screen. This limits it's use significantly.
In this case I can't find any mention of MHL, so I'd assume the pi-vieuw does not support it.
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Re: MOLPY BONG: _BONG!_ AND THE ONGST IS GONE!

Postby Sustainabilizer » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:19 am UTC

Eternal Density wrote:Can on-site speakers use VNC (e.g. https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... onaips.vnc ) to send their presentation to the projector?

Yes.

Eternal Density wrote:Or would that confuse things?

Not more than they are already. ;)

Eternal Density wrote:(I don't actually currently have any slides to show, but people usually want those, right?)

As a speaker, it's your choice. :)
We also have a blackboard and a document camera.
If you want a flip chart, we can organise one.

Eternal Density wrote:A question for wiki people: how do I add cells to the table to put arrival/departure information in? Only people who've filled those cells out have cells in those columns. Do I need to go into source edit mode?

I always use source edit mode which I consider the most comfortable/user-friendly one.
There you simply insert a new row which starts with a “|”.

Eternal Density wrote:General German rail travel question: while I'm planning to pay for inter-city travel via a Rail Pass (5 day flexi twin pass, specifically), is it advisable/necessary to reserve seats ahead of time?

That depends on the Time. When everyone is on the rails, it's molpish to have a reserved seat. I always do that, FWIW.
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Y'ALL GOT ANY MORE OF THEM TARDISES?

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:32 am UTC

Sustainabilizer wrote:Yes.

Not more than they are already.
Good.
Sustainabilizer wrote:As a speaker, it's your choice.
We also have a blackboard and a document camera.
If you want a flip chart, we can organise one.
How about a flannelgraph? It seems Timey. (Seriously though, I'll probably just have a few slides, if only to have my main points written up so people can follow.)
Sustainabilizer wrote:That depends on the Time. When everyone is on the rails, it's molpish to have a reserved seat. I always do that, FWIW.
Thanks.
Looking at the seat reservation form ( http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query. ... ountry=USA ) I see that there's an option for 'reservation for seat only, no ticket' which interacts molpishly with a Rail Pass already covering the fare. So that works.


Is there anywhere in or near Bochum where one might purchase the components of a Cory Doctorow costume?
(I didn't realise that the Hugo award wasn't the first time he dressed up as himself.)
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Re: Y'ALL GOT ANY MORE OF THEM TARDISES?

Postby Sustainabilizer » Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:17 pm UTC

Eternal Density wrote:How about a flannelgraph?

We can organise a pinboard.
Or a flannelgraph, if you really want.
(Personally, I don't like such things.)

Speaking of things to visit:
  • There are some Roman ruins in reach (Xanten). Very interesting. You can have a Roman dinner there.
    (I didn't find any web pages about them in English, but German Wikipedia has some treeish photos.)
    Xanten also has a cathedral which was built from 1263 to 1544.
  • Speaking of LVR: They have some more open-air museums showing life in Old18 Europe.
  • And castles. Everywhere.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:00 pm UTC

My bot caught the message when it was changing!

Code: Select all

20150202.0608 UTC 0036   "No. If there were only one language I could not be a Machine That Grants Any Wish With A Single Parameter *N*, I would merely be a Machine That Grants Wishes Expressible in Mrorl's Language (and With A Single Parameter *N*)."

20150202.0608 UTC 0036   "No. If there were only one language I could not be a Machine That Grants Any Wish With A Single Parameter *N*, I wowrhaps, but perfectly classified and distinguishable. Only then did Mrorl invite over. Single Parameter *N*)."

20150202.1001 UTC 0037   "Very well," said Mrorl and ordered it to limit aggrievedness to 3 types, which it did at once -- still irritating perhaps, but perfectly classified and distinguishable. Only then did Mrorl invite over his friend Balthacarius the great bOTTifactor, and introduced him to the Machine, praising its extraordinary

would + perhaps = wowrhaps.
u - 01110101
w - 01110111
e - 01100101
Where did that 1 come from? It's not in 'e' or 'u'.
' ' and 'A' made a '.'.

The middle of the message changed but the beginning and the end didn't.
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Re: Holding A Speech At The Conference

Postby HES » Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:28 pm UTC

Sustainabilizer wrote:For on-site speeches:

I was hoping to avoid bringing any organised sand other than my MTA, presumably I can make use of an appropriate device to run a sustainably formatted presentation?
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Re: Holding A Speech At The Conference

Postby Sustainabilizer » Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:40 pm UTC

HES wrote:
Sustainabilizer wrote:For on-site speeches:

I was hoping to avoid bringing any organised sand other than my MTA, presumably I can make use of an appropriate device to run a sustainably formatted presentation?

Yes. PDF presentations are most likely to work.
We also have LibreOffice installed.
I'll never understand why anyone wants to travel without organised sand.
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TO FOREGOAT OR NOT TO FOREGOAT, THAT IS THE QUESTION

Postby mrob27 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:54 pm UTC

ongomome wrote:IF EVERYMOLPY PUT LITTLE ORGANIZED SAND TREBUCHETS ON THE RATPIES OF THEIR DIPS AND SHIPCASTLES ...

Mmmm, Ratpies. It's been quite some time since I had a really good ratpie. Memories of the good old days...

balthasar_s wrote:I'll look at it and see what happens.

You may, but like I said, there is no more message in there to find. I will be retro-editing individual lines if needed, and you'll probably see one soon (where I changed 'machine' to 'Machine') which I am doing as a test. The sequence numbers are there to allow reconstructing the whole thing in proper sequence, and the timestamps are there to provide a complete record of what was edited when.

The transition from line 0036 to 0037 was a bit shaky. More technical stuff in spoiler:
Spoiler:
Here's what the bots in the TARDIS received:

  20150202.01:26:40 0036 "No. If there were only one language I could not be a Machine That Grants Any Wish With A Single Parameter *N*, I would merely be a Machine That Grants Wishes Expressible in Mrorl's Language (and With A Single Parameter *N*)."
  20150202.05:23:07 0036 "No. If there were only one language I could not be a Machine That Grants Any Wish With A Single Parameter *N*, I wowrhaps, but perfectly classified and distinguishable. Only then did Mrorl invite over. Single Parameter *N*)."
  20150202.05:39:45 0037 "Very well," said Mrorl and ordered it to limit aggrievedness to 3 types, which it did at once — still irritating perhaps, but perfectly classified and distinguishable. Only then did Mrorl invite over his friend Balthacarius the great bOTTifactor, and introduced him to the Machine, praising its extraordinary

The second '0036' includes some of the text intended for 0037. This happens if you are fetching the mr*bdex pages while a new ONG is being sent to the mr*bdex. (Because there are a several HTML pages to update, I can't update them all instantly, and it can take a total of about 3 minutes to update the whole thing.)
  My logs indicate that I detected that it was time to send the next 'ONG' at 20150202.05:01:43. It then takes about 9 minutes for nopixbot's servant getem to blitz the entire OTT and compile the list of newwords; this process finished at 20150202.05:10:19. nopixbot then creates RHTF output for all of the mr*bdex pages, including the table of contents, the index itself, the glossary, and links to things created by otherOTTers; this was finished at 20150202.05:10:21.
  The new RHTF gets detected by bwebd, the bot that updates my website, which compiles it into HTML (seen in the log here starting at 05:10:37). It eventually fires instances of another bot to actually upload the new pages. This last step began at 20150202.05:11:01:

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 =-=-=-= Mon Feb  2 05:10:37 EST 2015 =-=-=-=
 bwebd:: webgr2 web/vistapages U time/xxxx-j1m.rhtf 1
 bwebd:: webgr2 web/vistapages U time/xxxx-bothasar.rhtf 1
 bwebd:: webgr2 web/vistapages U time/index.rhtf 1
  [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [19]
 bwebd:: webgr2 web/vistapages U time/ott-word-stats.txt 1
 doscan2: complete at 20150202.05:11:01; 2039302 files stat'd; 1931 CRC'd; 4 actions.
 bwebd:: postw2 vistapages U time/xxxx-j1m.html 1
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 bwebd:: postw2 vistapages U time/xxxx-bothasar.html 1
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 bwebd:: postw2 vistapages U time/index-17.html 1
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 bwebd:: postw2 vistapages U time/index-2.html 1
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 bwebd:: postw2 vistapages U time/index-3.html 1
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 bwebd:: postw2 vistapages U time/index-4.html 1
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 bwebd:: postw2 vistapages U time/index-5.html 1
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 bwebd:: postw2 vistapages U time/index.html 1
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 bwebd:: postw2 vistapages U time/ott-word-stats.txt 1
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 doscan2: complete at 20150202.05:12:46; 2045952 files stat'd; 1952 CRC'd; 9 actions.

The pages are posted in alphabetical order (lexicographic by full pathname). On a good day they take about 10 seconds each to upload. As you can see, index-2.html gets sent much earlier than index.html, and you need all of them to extract the next line of ONG text.
  The new version was apparently being received at the Moonbase whilst I was transmitting it, and nopixbot next checked the Moonbase at 20150202.05:23:07. By the following time it checked (20150202.05:39:45), the Moonbase had a complete version of line 0037.
  I'm not sure what to recommend, because it will depend on your preferred bot-programming style. If it were my bot, I'd keep track of the "previous" version and the "current" version. If anything changed, that means we might have a full update or it might be partial. If so, don't do anything yet but wait maybe 15 minutes and load them all again. Once all of the "current" pages equal the "previous" pages, it's safe to actually extract the text (and again, see if that text is new).


balthasar_s wrote:Earlier you said you also wanted to ottify the bard. I had some thoughts about the original and translated poetry. Maybe I'll write a PM when I organise them.

That will be fun. You have some Time — at least two wips until I need to deal with Mrorl's OTTronic Bard.

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WOW - SO JAVASCRIPT - MANY RIVERISH - SUCH WAITING
- VERY PENGOAT - MUCH WINGISH - RIVER IS SMALL


(Edit: Now with more nerdiness!)

 
Wow, still no new posts. I don't want to double post :?

Sustainabilizer wrote:ᖉ, ᘝᐣᖚᔭ,ᐨ [...] (Hi, mrob27 and nopixbot!)

Hi!
We want to show the presentations of remote speeches on our projector, and we want to stream the presentations of both on-site and remote speeches to the outside world. For both purposes we consider VNC the easiest approach. [...]
We are currently finishing our setup to make all this work. Once this is ready we're going to contact our remote speakers to explain the details, to assist you with the software setup, and to perform some tests. Wait for it.

Are you referring to slides? What if I wasn't actually planning to make slides? I was planning to just have my outline on a public webpage and expect people to survive on listening and speaking alone. This is meant to be a conversation, not a monologue or soliloquy.
Remote speakers may want to send us an additional camera view, plus sound. For this we recommend to use the streaming features of the VLC Media Player.

I have VLC, so with any luck it hasn't changed in some incompatible way. Just so you know, it is now too late for me to install Linux on our Windows 8.1 notebook, so all solutions will need to be limited to things that work in Mac OS version 10.6.8 or Windows 8.1.
  But if all else fails, we can always use IRC and someone can narrate what I type. :D I'm serious!

balthasar_s wrote:My bot caught the message when it was changing!

Indeed it did. Clever little bot! (Apologies for the blindpost, where I said essentially the same thing)
would + perhaps = wowrhaps.
u - 01110101
w - 01110111
e - 01100101
Where did that 1 come from? It's not in 'e' or 'u'.

Maybe the bots were getting frisky. Or perhaps they were speaking in rot13!

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  Original  ->  rot13'd
 I would me    V jbhyq zr   'u' ->rot13-> 'h' = 0x68 = 01101000
 I wowrhaps    V jbjeuncf        bits combine to give: 01101010
 ng perhaps    at creuncf   'e' ->rot13-> 'r' = 0x72 = 01111010

                   01101010 = 0x6a = 'j' ->rot13-> 'w'
 Q.E.D.

The middle of the message changed but the beginning and the end didn't.

Yep, you polled it after the update to index-2.html but prior to index.html.
  I thought of a different solution which would make your bots' algorithm a lot simpler: Retrieve the mr*bdex pages in reverse lexicographic order. Start with index.html, which always gets updated last, then go to index-9.html, index-8.html, etc. down to index-2.html; and then do index-17.html, etc. down to index-10.html. The theory is that whenever you get index.html, if I've just uploaded a new version, the index.html that you just retrieved will have a new sequence number. If so, then you know all the other pages are updated too since you fetched them after fetching index.html, and yet I uploaded those others prior to uploading index.html.
  However you'd still want to do the "check everything against previous version" test to be completely sure, because sometimes an individual HTML file fails to upload to mrob.com due to Internet mustard that is beyond my control. In those cases it tries again after a few minutes, and again, and again... So maybe it doesn't matter what order you load them in, if you double-check all pages anyway.

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RATPIES: THEY ARE ABOUT THIS AWEFULSOME.
NOW CAN WE PLEASE, AS A THREAD, MOVE ON?


(Edit N+1: For further clarity, and for the ratpies. Yum!
Edit N+2: I can of course use Windows 8.1.)
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Re: Y'ALL GOT ANY MORE OF THEM TARDISES?

Postby Link » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:12 pm UTC

Sustainabilizer wrote:There are some Roman ruins in reach (Xanten). Very interesting. You can have a Roman dinner there.

Hey, I've been there! It was molpish. Baobabs, that must've been what, 12 yips ago? Time flies!

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Re: TO FOREGOAT OR NOT TO FOREGOAT, THAT IS THE QUESTION

Postby Sustainabilizer » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:15 pm UTC

mrob27 wrote:Are you referring to slides? What if I wasn't actually planning to make slides? I was planning to just have my outline on a public webpage and expect people to survive on listening and speaking alone. This is meant to be a conversation, not a monologue or soliloquy

Then you don't need VNC.

mrob27 wrote:
Remote speakers may want to send us an additional camera view, plus sound. For this we recommend to use the streaming features of the VLC Media Player.

I have VLC, but again I will need (a link to) complete, thorough, detailed instructions on how to make it send video from my webcam.

As I wrote:
Sustainabilizer wrote:We are currently finishing our setup to make all this work. Once this is ready we're going to contact our remote speakers to explain the details, to assist you with the software setup, and to perform some tests.
Wait for it.

mrob27 wrote:Do I need to know what IP address I am sending this to?

Yes. It's icecast.cvh-server.de [46.4.31.137].
More details will follow as soon as they have been determined.

mrob27 wrote:  If all else fails, we can always use IRC and someone can narrate what I type.

Yes. We thought about IRC as a light-weight additional channel to be used as an easy way to ask questions to remote speakers and/or as a fallback in case the audio channel drops down.

mrob27 wrote: :D I'm serious!

Me too. ;)
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MY THREAD JUST ENHANCED ME; M*STARD WAS SO WINGISH

Postby mrob27 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:28 pm UTC

Sustainabilizer wrote: As I wrote: [...] Wait for it.

I kept editing my post over and over again. It seems that you were working on your reply at the same time. I apologize for making you type all of that again :( Thanks for the IP address. As another alternative to IRC, I'll encourage people to send tweets with mention @mrob_27 (note the underscore) which might be much better for most participants since they can tweet from their phones.

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