1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:08 am UTC

ninjafence! It was here all the time but not noticed.
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Postby mrob27 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:30 am UTC

Indeed, I just noticed the ninjafence too! Image

balthasar_s wrote:It's much easier when you're SilentTimer:
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My regex golf solution is /c|g|ja|ma|ly/ or equivalently /c|g|[jm]a|ly/. Can anyone improve it?

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 $ regexgolf.py +january -february +march -april +may -june +july +august -september +october -november +december
 c|g|ja|ma|ly

(I'm thinking of adding a postoptimiser using regexes like s/([^.])([^.])\|([^.])\2/\[\1\3\]\2/)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:49 am UTC

Wowterfallish epilogy, @hujackus!
Looks like you're going to be right about 2016 and 2017 – unless it's a coincidence that a 3-by-3 rectangle appears in two places (which is certainly possible, we're good at finding patterns that don't really exist). For 2018 and further, it indeed takes more guesswork, not just from fig. 2 and 3 as you mention, but also whether the hash is done on a hexadecimal value (as you suggest in the image, and others, including me, have proposed as well) or if it's done on a string (ASCII values; as you suggest in the pseudo-code).
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mikrit » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:19 am UTC

ucim wrote:
mikrit wrote:... although I think the rythm stutters. "BOOK-mak-ER bi-BI" doesn't sound natural
I'd normally pronounce it "BI-bi", so don't see an issue.
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Well yes, me too. But "BI-bi" is a trochee, so pronouncing it like that would wreck the iambic tetrameter. It would just be a jammed tetrameter. (Mmmm ... jam ...)

My little horse would think it strange
To see the meter so deranged.
If he could speak, what would he say?
A Frosty look, and then a "Nay!".
(Based on the second verse of Robert Frost, Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening.)

But of course trochees can be useful. A double trochee poem (a genre that I just invented) is about 33% more compact than a double dactyl, and it is much easier to come up with the single-word line.

Higgle, piggle!
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By the way, on this topic, there is a scene where Calvin is forced to say an extremely long tiger-praising password poem, to make Hobbes lower the rope ladder from their treehouse. ("...Tigers are nimble and light on their toes. / My respect for tigers constantly grows." etc. etc.)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:45 am UTC

ZoomanSP wrote:Acts of the Clerics.
Awesomeful. Baobabs. Neat.
Waiting rewarded.

What he said!

The idea that finding BlitzGirl and Kieryn is up to the First Cleric should be pretty terrifying (even without him being on the wrong side of the BlitzRocket), but somehow the great poetry makes it less scary. :)

I've really been missing AotC lately, so thank you thank you thank you, Jose!


ETA: Hi Valarya!


Heh, treeish manips, Whizbang and ergman!


So glad you posted the cello diffusion, mscha! I was hoping you would. It's really pretty - I wonder what software it was done in....


ETA2: Oh Laura Mae - I think you may deserve this. I remember this from the radio (Dr Demento) when I was a kid - I'm not sure the video can equal what your imagination might....


Okay, there's more I want to say, but that's enough until I get the leopard plugged in again.
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Time After Time: t-1_0261

Postby mscha » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:30 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:34 pm UTC

The Bibi poem scans fine by my eyes. Yes, the feet aren't pure, but the rhythm can still dance.

I'd big myself out but I don't know what I'm doing. :)

Thanks ggh - I'd been missing First Cleric too, and didn't want an entire century to go without him. (It's been dancing in my head, like many things that once thought are thought done, but are not.)

ggh wrote:So glad you posted the cello diffusion, mscha! I was hoping you would. It's really pretty - I wonder what software it was done in....
Looks like Steam to me. There were a few OTTers who went off into designing some Time world in there; I don't remember who they were (I don't remember much of anything anymore!); perhaps that's the source.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:12 pm UTC

Okay - plugged in again....

Hujackus - thanks for that awesomeful explanation - that is so cool!

I'm curious about that cdef block... your current version looks like it fits for a few reasons - what are the arguments for your previous guess?

I never tried the hexadecimal approach myself, but I do really like it - those sets of two never sat well with me.... I never quite got how folks were proposing that it worked though - it was like a dumb mental block I had - so thanks for drawing it out in a way that made me understand.

Seeing Patterns in Weird Places is pretty chirpin' neato. That the two Es are next to 13 and 14 though could be just coincidence though, right? I mean, the EDB goes with year 13 and hour 14 and the EAC does the reverse, so for year 16, you're looking to hour 11. If the 13 and 14 turn out not to be significant, then maybe 2013 isn't either. That block of 9 occurs in 2014 and twice in 2015 as well if you include the hexadecimal slots. In those cases, the prediction for the next two years would be the same, but then there's conflict over 2018.

At any rate, the repetition you found between the frames and the highly compacted notation is exciting - it suggests something fractal or a simple and elegant underlying mechanism. I can't wait to see it revealed!

I had come to the same conclusion/suspicion you did in Figure 4, that the data could be further compacted to just 3 characters for a year, and that's what I was hoping to test at the start of the year, but that's as far as I got. I've never been sure whether we're looking for a message in the epilogue or a pattern, or even which one I'm hoping it will be. 3 characters gives us 125 codes, which I was thinking gives us the main body of ascii - could we be getting a message at one letter per year? I liked the idea, but I didn't find anything that looked promising as a mapping for those first three years. I can't remember any more what I tried... it was a long time ago. Anyways, finding the underlying pattern would get me off the hook for looking for that, and that would be pretty great, in addition to the other 18 ways in which it would be awesomeful. :)


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Time After Time: t-1_0262

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:18 pm UTC

Forgot to say that I muchly enjoyed mscha's Dutch Boy manip, and ergman's--whatever that thing was. Reminded me of one of these.

And cool stuff with the epilogue sequence, hujackus! At some point I want to sit down and study it, and see if I can understand what you epiloguers see. If not, I'll just admire the pretty colors. :D

I totally missed that little thing in the hiddenONGs. I don't see any orange traffic cone on him, though.

I like the double trochee poems, mikrit! Someday literary students will be studying that poetry form and praising your name. :)

I have to say, the Beanies don't look particularly alarmed by what appears to be a huge breach in the dam-like thing. But wait--are they holding hands again? Have they realized the end is nigh, and they want to consummate their love in a final blaze of passion? Image

Edit to make it one love. Maybe they have more than one love, I don't know.
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Time After Time: t-1_0263

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:36 pm UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:I have to say, the Beanies don't look particularly alarmed by what appears to be a huge breach in the dam-like thing. But wait--are they holding hands again? Have they realized the end is nigh, and they want to consummate their love in a final blaze of passion? Image
You maritime folk! Sorry to say, they are not holding hands. They are hands to mouth: "Oh My Randall!" and in the latest bwONG, are rushing to the splurtz controller.

Meanwhile, in the cONGs, our traffic cone mouse* seems to be playing pick-up-sticks. They are exceptionally bright sticks; I wonder if they know what they are doing.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:00 pm UTC

Yes, that was posted in the Facebug thread. It's ALL Related.

I still maintain that they're holding hands in 260 and 261.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:03 pm UTC

slinches wrote:This seems related somehow:

https://www.rt.com/news/319788-moon-space-debris-wtf/

Of course it is! WT1190F!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby slinches » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:33 pm UTC

Yup, that registered immediately as "what the Time ch*rp!"

I would not be surprised if the impact location was miscalculated and it lands just outside of the straight of Gibraltar, with the edge of the impact crater forming a ridge that blocks the opening to the Mediterranean. Thus begins Time.

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Time After Time: t-1_0264

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Time After Time: t-1_0265

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:02 am UTC

I think our little bot friend is playing Mikado.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:22 pm UTC

mscha wrote:I think our little bot friend is playing Mikado.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mikrit » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:16 pm UTC

slinches wrote:Yup, that registered immediately as "what the Time ch*rp!"
Indeed. That's unusually RELATED. Maybe it's Down Comer 5. Or Asteroid 4942 Munroe.

I was just wondering about the English name for Plockepinn. I noted that Wikipedia writes that one must follow the rules strictly in order to enjoy the game. Bah! I call "citation needed" on that. How can they know whether I enjoy cheating? Hmm, I suppose Wikipedia has calculated my psychological profile via spyware and mind-reading rays.

ETA: Speaking of space, I just learned about the rather unusual web comic at http://dord.horse/ . I must say I like it.
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taixzo wrote:I remember playing that game when I was little! Except, we just called it pick-up sticks; I didn't know that the striped sticks had different names.
I played it and they had different shapes
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Postby AluisioASG » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:22 pm UTC

I played it too and they had different colors, much like the futuremost one from balthasar's.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NoMouse » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:08 pm UTC

mscha wrote:I think our little bot friend is playing Mikado.

I thought it was going to cook spaghetti.
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Postby hujackus » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:10 pm UTC

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hujackus wrote:Does anyone know what language the server is likely running when it hands out the image urls?

I know they use a lot of fairly unique stuff. For example, one or two things (including Umwelt, whose engine is on github) are done in Haskell. According to @davéan, Many parts of xkcd are implemented with Haskell, including "two new sites [not] released yet" as of 2012 June. So that would be the language to check.
   Hmmm… Image Isn't it against the rules of Haskell to query the current time? That would violate their "purely-functional" paradigm… O_o as he remembers that time his Haskell-expert friend needed to add 50 more lines to a 6-line Mandelbrot calculation function, forcing imperative-style flow control just to measure how much time the calculation takes… Image
  Then again, there's always Lisp or Perl :roll:

Thanks for the information. Yes, if it the program that chooses which frame to show is running Haskell, it probably wouldn't handle the current time directly. The code I posted takes certain liberties that may not align with the real code. Which reminds me. I asked myself a question that scientists usually ask themselves at some point. Do I only care about making predictions or do I only care about the explanation behind the predictions.

I can write code to predict the epilogue sequence and not care about if it looks like the real code as long as the results are the same.
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I can try to figure out the real code which (in its intermediate form) may or may not produce the epilogue sequence exactly.

I'm a fan of David Deutsch and his views on the importance of good explanations, so I'm leaning towards the later choice. However, guessing if the code is in Haskell or something else is going to be tough, especially when I know other parts of the code use cryptography.

mscha wrote:Wowterfallish epilogy, @hujackus!
Looks like you're going to be right about 2016 and 2017 – unless it's a coincidence that a 3-by-3 rectangle appears in two places (which is certainly possible, we're good at finding patterns that don't really exist). For 2018 and further, it indeed takes more guesswork, not just from fig. 2 and 3 as you mention, but also whether the hash is done on a hexadecimal value (as you suggest in the image, and others, including me, have proposed as well) or if it's done on a string (ASCII values; as you suggest in the pseudo-code).
My head is spinning now, I'll look further when I have some more Time.

I really do wonder about if the digits are hexadecimal or not. The patterns we've seen kind of pop out if we assume that they are, but that is our only clue. In code, I see several possible inputs for a hash function. (And to be clear, I'm defining a general hash function, not a specific or standard cryptographic hash.)

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int hash(String fullDateStr){...}                          // hash("YYYY-MM-DDThh:mm:ssZ")
int hash(String str){...}                                  // hash("YDhh")
int hash(long bits){...}                                   // hash(dateStr.toBits(MASK))
int hash(int year, int dayOfMonth, int hourOfDay){...}     // hash(YYYY, DD, hh)
int hash(int var1, int var2, int var3, int var4 ...){...}  // hash(onesPlaceOfYear, tensPlaceOfDayOfMonth, tensPlaceOfHour, onesPlaceOfHour)

ggh wrote:I'm curious about that cdef block... your current version looks like it fits for a few reasons - what are the arguments for your previous guess?

As you pointed out, the cdef blocks I chose last time didn't look as promising as the current ones. If you change the cdef blocks, it changes the five 1x4 blocks in Fig. 4.
In my previous guess, those five 1x4 blocks would have been ABDC, BCED, CDAE, DEBA, EACB. The relative pattern in these is [0,+1,+2,+4]. I had base two on the brain and I missed the better choice seen in the current guess shown in Fig. 4.

ggh wrote:Seeing Patterns in Weird Places is pretty chirpin' neato. That the two Es are next to 13 and 14 though could be just coincidence though, right? I mean, the EDB goes with year 13 and hour 14 and the EAC does the reverse, so for year 16, you're looking to hour 11.

Yes, the 13s and 14s flip places so it's not perfect. It just leads me to believe that the hash function uses subtraction for the years and addition for the hours. I mean, everything is highly transposable and translatable; why not expect reflections.

I've been trying out some simple hash functions in Excel based off arithmetic functions and though I haven't found the right one, I did find some pretty stuff.Image
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Postby lmjb1964 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:34 pm UTC

Thanks for the animation, mscha! But where did our little robot friend come from? He just sort of appeared.
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Postby ucim » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:04 pm UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:But where did our little robot friend come from? He just sort of appeared.
He's small, but he seems to know what he's doing. A Holy Contradiction!

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Postby AluisioASG » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:28 pm UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:But where did our little robot friend come from? He just sort of appeared.

FWIW the area he appeared in is slightly different from its surroundings.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:35 am UTC

mikrit wrote:
ETA: Speaking of space, I just learned about the rather unusual web comic at http://dord.horse/ . I must say I like it.


As do I. Thank you.
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Postby ergman » Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:52 am UTC

SBN wrote:
mikrit wrote:
ETA: Speaking of space, I just learned about the rather unusual web comic at http://dord.horse/ . I must say I like it.


As do I. Thank you.

same! It's interesting, randallesque. humour and intrigue!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mikrit » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:46 am UTC

Thanks for the animations, mscha, I hadn't realized that the Beanies used the rope to pull the elevator closer to the wall. Seems like a dangerous practice. (Well, in comparison with trying to repair a gigantic crumbling dam, maybe not so dangerous.)

About the anonymously written web comic at dord.horse, I have found out that it is by Jeph Jacques, author of Questionable Content. There is some background by QC readers on https://www.reddit.com/r/questionableco ... his_a_new/

But why is there a top domain called "horse"? Never heard of that before.

ETA: Today I am in Linköping, which I think means Heather Town. But the computery hotel receipt cannot handle the letter ö, so it spells the name as LinkTMping instead - which has a nice computery feel.
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