Werstwerld (Westworld)
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Werstwerld (Westworld)
Third episode, I am loving the shit out of this show. It's HBO, so, probs fair warning that there are a ton of triggers to be had here (rape, all the violence). The show is doing a fantastic job of exploring theory of mind, though, I'm somewhat put off by the notion that all these people are doing all these depraved things in the park and no one is saying 'Dude, that's pretty fucked up'. Some of the deliveries and explanations are a little hamfisted, but putting those aside, ermagerd.
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I've heard many people talk about this show positively. I've yet to check it out, but I'd like to, just based on recommendations. I don't really know what it's about, except I heard comparison to Firefly.
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Zohar wrote:I've heard many people talk about this show positively. I've yet to check it out, but I'd like to, just based on recommendations. I don't really know what it's about, except I heard comparison to Firefly.
It's like Firefly but without most of the humor and instead of being set in space it's set at a futuristic western themed amusement park full of robots.
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Uh... It's like Firefly, but instead of being about a plucky band of misfits trying to make it on their own it's about something totally different.
The only similarities I'd say are the 'ol West themes.
Third episode is out, shit's getting craycray.
The only similarities I'd say are the 'ol West themes.
Third episode is out, shit's getting craycray.
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Started watching this. This show is interesting, but I'm hoping this doesn't become another Lost - where they just keep piling up more and more new questions without ever bothered to answer the old ones. It's all still rather confusing. Which is fine, we're only three episodes in. My big fear with they will end up never answering these questions in a satisfactory way.
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It's one of those irregular verbs, isn't it? I have an independent mind, you are an eccentric, he is round the twist
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I wasn't sure what to expect from this, but the opening theme immediately grabbed me, the score is really good and pairs well with the visuals. I'm loving the player-piano motif, seems very apt to what appears to be the main themes of the show.
Also enjoying the renditions of modern songs. Paint it Black int he first episode was especially well-executed I thought. I was reminded of the anachronistic songs from Bioshock Infinite, which is basically the only reason I'd replay that game.
Speaking of computer games, I wonder if there's any deeper connection between the manufacturing of 'Hosts' in Westworld and 'Synths' in Fallout 4 than just both taking inspiration from the Vitruvian Man?
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Also enjoying the renditions of modern songs. Paint it Black int he first episode was especially well-executed I thought. I was reminded of the anachronistic songs from Bioshock Infinite, which is basically the only reason I'd replay that game.
Speaking of computer games, I wonder if there's any deeper connection between the manufacturing of 'Hosts' in Westworld and 'Synths' in Fallout 4 than just both taking inspiration from the Vitruvian Man?
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EdgarJPublius wrote:Evan Rachel Wood:Spoiler:
Regarding the gun in episode 3:
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I find that the series is taking too much time dragging its world building and "mystery" at the expense of deep character development, and that by the end run of this season we may see a rushed, unsatisfying end as a result. I have trouble with the series's pacing.
Feels very much like Leftovers, where you have some really good episodes, especially season 2, but it sputters out really badly because of how much it delays narrative progression and how little attachment the audience gets to have with characters.
Feels very much like Leftovers, where you have some really good episodes, especially season 2, but it sputters out really badly because of how much it delays narrative progression and how little attachment the audience gets to have with characters.
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I feel like things are moving along pretty well actually. Each plot line is advancing discernibly in every episode and we've been pretty consistently learning new things about the park, it's mysteries, what's happening behind the scenes, and who the significant players are and their motivations. We're only halway through the season and lots of stuff is becoming more clear.
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Watching someone Transcend was pretty awesome.
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This is all so very dope.
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Well that last episode was interesting though I have some MAJOR complaints
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Response to Chen
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"Does this mean the glass if half full or half empty"
"We're engineers. It means the glass has been manufactured to the wrong specifications"
Whahaha. I'm going to remember that one. The optimist says the glass is half full, the pessimest says its half empty, the physicist ducks, and the engineer takes another look at the specifications.
*edit* Finished watching the episode. Damn this show is good. Really loving it. I am very happy that they seem to be moving forward the plot, instead of dragging it out endlessly like so many shows do.
One thing I didn't get though
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It's one of those irregular verbs, isn't it? I have an independent mind, you are an eccentric, he is round the twist
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Episode 6 continued spoilers
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Diadem wrote:"Does this mean the glass if half full or half empty"
"We're engineers. It means the glass has been manufactured to the wrong specifications"
Whahaha. I'm going to remember that one. The optimist says the glass is half full, the pessimest says its half empty, the physicist ducks, and the engineer takes another look at the specifications.
*edit* Finished watching the episode. Damn this show is good. Really loving it. I am very happy that they seem to be moving forward the plot, instead of dragging it out endlessly like so many shows do.
One thing I didn't get thoughSpoiler:
Some socially awkward, young nerdy guy is confronted by a reasonably attractive, sympathetic woman he sees brutalized on a frequent basis. What do you suppose most straight guys would do under such a circumstance? I don't think that society has gotten to a point where they've socially conditioned men to not have a protective instinct toward a damsel archetype.
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Yeah, literally one of the points that needs to get underlined frequently in this show is that these hosts ARE NOT HUMANS. Not, mind you, for the audience, but for the technicians who are working on them, because they frequently seem to forget that the HOSTS ARE NOT HUMANS.
That's the thing to keep in mind, the notion that people will respond to even a simulated damsel in distress. And that maybe that simulated response is sufficient to make something an actual factual damsel in distress.
That's the thing to keep in mind, the notion that people will respond to even a simulated damsel in distress. And that maybe that simulated response is sufficient to make something an actual factual damsel in distress.
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Wow, those were some major reveals in episode 7.
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It's one of those irregular verbs, isn't it? I have an independent mind, you are an eccentric, he is round the twist
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HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHNNGGG!!!! A) I called it, btw, and B ) this fucking show, this fucking show!
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word, this fuckin show.
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A fantastic Twitter thread by @Wolven discussing
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I think there are pretty intentional parallels to divinity, particularly with Arnolds notion of having the hosts hear voice commands
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Damn, that was another great episode. Anthony Hopkins deserves all the emmys.
I didn't quite get one thing though (major spoilers for ep 9)
I didn't quite get one thing though (major spoilers for ep 9)
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Ep 9:
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LE4dGOLEM: What's a Doug?
Noc: A larval Doogly. They grow the tail and stinger upon reaching adulthood.
Keep waggling your butt brows Brothers.
Or; Is that your eye butthairs?
Noc: A larval Doogly. They grow the tail and stinger upon reaching adulthood.
Keep waggling your butt brows Brothers.
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Holy shit. It's not often a show leaves me utterly speechless, but damn, that finale. Holy shit.
It's one of those irregular verbs, isn't it? I have an independent mind, you are an eccentric, he is round the twist
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Finale Thoughts:
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LE4dGOLEM: What's a Doug?
Noc: A larval Doogly. They grow the tail and stinger upon reaching adulthood.
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Spoiler warning for major season 1 finale spoilers
I already loved this show before, but the finale took it to a whole new level. The plot was just resolved so damn well, which such magnificent implications.
I'm really curious where they will go with the second season. They will have to go in an entirely new direction, which means it could be anywhere between really bad and amazing. I do hope a certain major character returns, somehow.
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I already loved this show before, but the finale took it to a whole new level. The plot was just resolved so damn well, which such magnificent implications.
I'm really curious where they will go with the second season. They will have to go in an entirely new direction, which means it could be anywhere between really bad and amazing. I do hope a certain major character returns, somehow.
It's one of those irregular verbs, isn't it? I have an independent mind, you are an eccentric, he is round the twist
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Got around to watching the show this weekend and basically saw it all over the last 48 hours. I am so happy I managed to avoid almost all spoilers. It was brilliantly planned and executed, while I got the gist of it the first time around there's plenty of stuff in here for a second and third viewing. Dolores' scenes in particular are going to be quite interesting to rewatch.
A general thought on the confusing scenes where things kept changing:
A few stupid logistical questions that really bother me:
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A general thought on the confusing scenes where things kept changing:
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A few stupid logistical questions that really bother me:
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T: ... through an emergency induction port.
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T: Emerrrgency induction port.
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maybeagnostic wrote:A few stupid logistical questions that really bother me:Spoiler:
Guns:
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Thanks to Amazon Prime I got a free month of HBO streaming so over the past week I binged on all the episodes...
Yeah, all the logistic stuff about guns and knives and physical harm bothered me a lot throughout the show. Definitely didn't seem consistent. Would have been nice at some point to have had a side conversation about accidents that had happened in the past and what they did to address them going forward.
After the finale I started thinking...
Yeah, all the logistic stuff about guns and knives and physical harm bothered me a lot throughout the show. Definitely didn't seem consistent. Would have been nice at some point to have had a side conversation about accidents that had happened in the past and what they did to address them going forward.
After the finale I started thinking...
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pseudoidiot wrote:Part of me wonders if he made a Ford host to get shot by Delores.[/spoiler]
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doogly wrote:Spoiler:
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Derailed : Gaming Outside the Box.
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Chen wrote:maybeagnostic wrote:A few stupid logistical questions that really bother me:Spoiler:
Guns:Spoiler:
More on guns:
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It's one of those irregular verbs, isn't it? I have an independent mind, you are an eccentric, he is round the twist
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Yet more on guns:
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T: ... through an emergency induction port.
S: That's a straw, Tali.
T: Emerrrgency induction port.
S: That's a straw, Tali.
T: Emerrrgency induction port.
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Regarding guns/bullets:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 82921.html
So it really is sorta looking like two separate shells or something. It also kinda makes sense why the hosts can't seem to be allowed to shoot people in the face (like in the first episode with Teddy and MiB), since even a paintball/wax bullet is pretty dangerous that close and to the face.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 82921.html
So it really is sorta looking like two separate shells or something. It also kinda makes sense why the hosts can't seem to be allowed to shoot people in the face (like in the first episode with Teddy and MiB), since even a paintball/wax bullet is pretty dangerous that close and to the face.
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