Eh, it's fine. 'Less serious Jews who will eventually get it together'. To be clear though, for extra irony, my mom is for all intents and purposes a Jew in name only - she's the opposite of spiritual or into any of it, goes to synagogue when my dad says it's a responsibility (for funeral services and high holidays only, really). My parents almost got divorced about 10 years ago when my dad was starting to become more religious, wanted to make the kitchen kosher, and my mom refused.LaserGuy wrote:Just going back to this, what do your parents think about secular Judaism? Is their problem that you can't have morals without religious practices, or you can't have morals without God?
But I don't think there's any real ire towards less religious Jews. I don't think they'd recognize the term 'secular Jew', and just instead think 'that person is a Jew who doesn't go to services regularly'.
Probably not, because, and I loathe to say, they'd consider them Jewish first, 'black people' second. I've had a pretty horrifying conversation with my mom wherein she said the reason the Cosby show was so good was that it was about black people 'not being black'.LaserGuy wrote:Likewise, on the issue of racism, do they have similar feelings toward, say, the Ethiopian Jewish community?
I absolutely recognize that this is who they are, and they don't want to change their minds, and I recognize that that is at least one thing we have in common. I do think one of the issues is that they're only consuming Fox News and alt-right media, which, given that Fox News is about the furthest to the left news they consume, makes me think we simply live in realities with different facts.KnightExemplar wrote:Going back to my "Matrix" example, you're basically saying shove a red-pill down their throat. That's simply not going to work, and is instead only going to lead to a more frosty relationship.
Valid.Weeks wrote:As Zamfir said, one kind of owes some slack to the people who raised us. Just a little, though.
Heh, i've always loved this religious double standard - homosexuality is unnatural! Whats that, it happens in nature? Uhh, homosexuality is bestial!KnightExemplar wrote:Been there, done that. Animals don't have souls and therefore don't have morality. It helps explain the gay penis fencing from Bonobos or gay dogs humping each other (which is immoral in their view of course, but its not a problem for animals to behave like that)
The goalposts, they just keep moving.
Hilariously these political divides are pretty well documented then too. Oh humans. We are so dumb.CorruptUser wrote:How come civilizations managed to exist and societies managed to have laws and rules prior to Jesus? After all, there WAS a Rome that managed to keep from tearing itself apart until long after the Pope showed up.