Gojoe thread, I know I’ve been neglecting you again. Combination of getting a new dog the week the game started, and being busier than expected at work, meant I haven’t had as much time to put in to this as usual. I’ll try to make up for it now.
mpolo jailed Sabrar N1, which turned out to be a great call now that we know he was the mafia recruiter, because he very likely carried out the mafia kill/recruit attempt. mpolo was also reading Carlington as mafia. mpolo’s reads are usually very solid and I’m a bit disappointed we didn’t get to chat more, but RL got in the way for me N1, and probably for him too.
N2 SDK replaces mpolo. And wow, I continue to be utterly amazed at his skill in this game. His D1/D2 reads posted here
is what he posted in N2 mason chat for me to copy-paste if he got NKed on N2. Some additional SDK reads from mason chat:
1. jimbob is probably telling the truth.
2. If Sabrar targeted anyone other than Madge N1, he could assume he was blocked and pass the kill to a scumbuddy.
What follows is bessie’s current speculation: I think the above observation is important, but I’m not sure if I have the brainpower to figure out why. Now that I know Sabrar is the mafia recruiter, it is very likely he tried to carry out the kill on N1 and N2. Did he actually target Madge N1 and N2 because he thought she was the mafia supporter (and maybe she is)? That would actually explain a lot. Sabrar wouldn’t know he was blocked N1; he would assume the NK failed because of SirGabriel’s doctor. So he would have no reason to suspect he would be blocked on N2. He may have tried to recruit Madge again N2 but she was protected by ahippo/SirG. The other possibility is that Sabrar targeted ahippo/SirG on N2 hoping for a recruit. ahippo did name claim and had this weird comment on D1:
But I'd like to ask my question again: What role, other than cult leader, do you think could change another player's alignment?
But if Sabrar targeted ahippo N1, he could assume he was blocked (because ahippo wasn’t doctored) so would he really try again N2? Oh wait, no, Sabrar did know he was blocked N1 because Znirk targeted Sabrar N1 and it failed (unless he somehow got Madge’s breadcrumb that she blocked Znirk N1).
3. Hmm, SDK’s picks for the N3 kill were himself and Gopher of Pern. How does he know these things?
4. If Sabrar flips mafia, it might look bad for Madge. I wish SDK left me more thoughts on this. bessie’s current speculation is that Madge may have been the mafia supporter, but I’m pretty certain she wasn’t recruited, so hopefully she is now solidly town aligned.
5. Town read on freezeblade, my read on freezeblade is uncertain so I will give this weight.
6. This comment that I'm thinking about.
A few more bessie thoughts.
Speaking of which, just to make it clear in case I die, when I said Sabrar's wagon was "pure as pure can be", I didn't mean everyone on it was townie - I meant that no red flags were raised with any of the votes. None appeared opportunistic at all (other than LaserGuy's vote which looked like a bus - I hope I'm right about that!).
Carlington, I’m very disappointed, why did you have to kill SDK? I’m almost never scum, so I very rarely get to have any kind of chat. Now I finally get to chat with SDK and you took him away from me!
SDK, I regret that you didn’t jail Carlington last night but at least your death confirms Carlington as scum. I’ll try to find that last scum I hope I don’t let you down.
Sabrar played a really good game and I can’t find any connections between him and any other players. SDK thinks it’s LaserGuy. I’m not seeing it but that type of read is not my strong point. My suspicions on LaserGuy are based on his D3 setup speculation.
I’m probably a NK target tonight since I’m “confirmed” town and I can directly catch scum, so I need to get off my ass and go agro and try to root out that third mafia member. But I don’t know what to do because none of their claims can be disproven (if we assume Carlington and adnapemit are not necessarily telling the truth). Hopefully I will get a flash of inspiration. It better be soon.
Damn I wish Carlington killed me instead of SDK.