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Windows 10 Automatic Update

Postby trpmb6 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:09 pm UTC

It appears Microsoft disabled the options for forcing the OS to notify you prior to downloading any updates and installing them. Now it seems like it just automatically downloads and installs them when it is able to. And as far as I can tell there is no way to disable this via the normal channels provided in previous versions.

So far I've found one solution that deals with editing the registry. I don't particularly want to go that route. Wondering if anyone else has found a way to prevent the automatic download and install of updates that is somewhat less intrusive. A quick forum search didn't find anything.

For context: I had to kill a big job today on my laptop because windows decided to automatically start a download and update which hogged my resources. (Despite me having designated in the update settings menu to perform updates outside active hours)

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Re: Windows 10 Automatic Update

Postby Flumble » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:36 pm UTC

I think this only goes for Pro editions, but you can set the update policy to anything you like via the Group Policy manager (which is just one step away from using the registry, really). Now windows asks me every day to 'install' the newest Defender fingerprints, but at least it doesn't lead to a forced restart because of a 'real' update when I don't expect nor want it.

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Re: Windows 10 Automatic Update

Postby speising » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:22 pm UTC

Win 10 is evil.
Anyway, disabling the update service should stop those shenannigans.

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Re: Windows 10 Automatic Update

Postby Drumheller769 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:42 pm UTC

It does not. The svchost process that the windows update service is a part of still runs and downloads the updates, it however does not install them. For those of us on 1.5MB/s DSL this is terrible. When I see my internet crapping I have to go in and kill that specific svchost process.

Is there a way to turn off updates for non security related stuffs?
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Re: Windows 10 Automatic Update

Postby trpmb6 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:54 pm UTC

I was honestly not too upset with Windows 10 until I discovered this was happening. I've had this MSI Laptop for about 2 months (bought it for work because I needed something while on site with clients that is capable of running CAD/FEA). I hadn't really noticed the automatic updates until this week. Then it peaked and really ticked me off. I probably never noticed it before because of having meetings or something.

There are other nuances sure. But most of that is just style preferences and just random clutter crap that might be neat for grandma or teenbop in high school. A lot of that is easily taken care of.


The group policy solution looks like it will work nicely. And it appears it will still notify me when an update is available. Though I wish I could specify which updates it notifies me for. For the reason that Flumble noted.

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Re: Windows 10 Automatic Update

Postby Weeks » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:32 pm UTC

Was it eating at your bandwidth? I have everything automatic turned off and Windows was still downloading things while I was using the computer. What worked temporarily was to suspend the Svchost service that was consuming my bandwidth. (killing the process only "killed" it for a few minutes)

This might've been a one time issue I think, there was recently a large-ish update to Win10, and now I don't seem to have that problem anymore.

Also, seconding Flumble's advice, that's quite useful, thanks.
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Re: Windows 10 Automatic Update

Postby SecondTalon » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:47 am UTC

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Re: Windows 10 Automatic Update

Postby cphite » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:35 pm UTC

One simple way to prevent these if you're using a wireless connection is to set it to metered...

Open Settings
Open the Network & Internet section
Open Wi-Fi and click Advanced Options
Toggle Set as metered connection to On

Windows won't automatically download stuff over a metered connection, and it won't adversely affect your network usage. When you want to allow updates again, just remove the metered flag from the network.

Alternately you can disable the Windows Update service, or set "active hours" on the machine.

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Re: Windows 10 Automatic Update

Postby speising » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:44 pm UTC

Drumheller769 wrote:It does not. The svchost process that the windows update service is a part of still runs and downloads the updates, it however does not install them. For those of us on 1.5MB/s DSL this is terrible. When I see my internet crapping I have to go in and kill that specific svchost process.

I just checked again on my win10 VM. I see no downloads at all in SoftwareDistribution. So, "it works on my machine". To the part about internet crapping: those downloads should only run with low priority; your effects suggest a different, deeper problem.

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Re: Windows 10 Automatic Update

Postby Drumheller769 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:25 pm UTC

So I found a service called Delivery Optimization that despite the fact that I had that set to OFF in the update settings, the service itself was still auto start and running. Once I turned off both that, and the windows update service, the updates seem to have stopped.
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Re: Windows 10 Automatic Update

Postby speising » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:43 pm UTC

Drumheller769 wrote:Delivery Optimization

That's probably the P2P distribution thing.

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Re: Windows 10 Automatic Update

Postby Xanthir » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:36 pm UTC

Please don't stop your Win10 updates. Those are important to prevent your device from getting pwned. Days sometimes matter when a new exploit comes out that's easy to weaponize into a worm.

Yes, it's annoying when your PC restarts, and sometimes updates come with other stuff that you don't care about and might not want. But securing the global network is important; those DDOSes that piss everyone off are fueled by devices that get infected because they're not updated. (These days, usually IoT things that are *impossible* to update, but home computers are still a big chunk.)
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