Reads time. Let's see how many I can get through in the next one and a half hours before I need to start getting ready for bed.
plytho (doing first, at the request of LaserGuy): My general feeling with plytho is that for the most part, his thoughts have been very similar to my own, although due to how busy I've been he's usually beaten me to the punch when it comes to stating them this time. I've noticed this before in previous games as well, so we must have similar ideas of what's scummy and what isn't. Some examples from my re-read of him are his confusion over why Sabrar found Peaceful Whale's reads list scummy, and the voting for non-responsive lurkers issue. Despite the former of these points however, he doesn't assume Peaceful Whale to be town
, and is prepared to look at other evidence. His thoughts on mpolo's, and to a lesser extent Madge's, claim seem well-reasoned. He also doesn't get too focused on one particular player, trying to keep track of reads on everybody, despite the game size - all of these seem to be well thought out and not forced, so are more likely coming from town. I also like what he's picked up on Zyth in a few places, such as his vague answers to questions, and his inconsistency
. In particular, he doesn't blindly accept a high-post volume as townie. He also doesn't do the opposite either - lazily evaluate low-post-count, such as my own, as automatically scummy. His near-day-end rallying cry to get people voting is a townie point to me. He made a lot of effort to make sure there was no No Lynch, which would be unnecessary to do as scum. I haven't got time to review his Zyth case posted near the start of D2 in depth, but it certainly seemed well thought out, and a lot of effort put into casing somebody at the start of a new Day.
Summary - plytho is very likely Town.
Sabrar (going in order from plytho now): As I've noted in the past, I didn't understand why he found PW's joke reads list so scummy, but it's only a minor point. His questioning of moody in response to moody's thoughts on mpolo's claim seems unlikely to come from a scum-buddy, as do his later comments on moody
. His content use per post is relatively low, but that's mostly because his post volume is high even for Sabrar (hypothesis: Sabrar's posting rate increases with the number of players, unlike mine which decreases, it seems!). I'm a little surprised it took Sabrar until this post
to realise the point about Peaceful Whale not likely having a coaching scum-buddy. His reads are reasonable, and justified. Most of the opinions he has posted match my general feeling of players. When pressured by Maven over his moody vote, he defends it well. He's also one of several people who started looking at Zyth late D1 (aside - if Zyth should ever flip town, it would be worth looking at who were discussing these suspicions at the end of the day, as they might be a scum team trying to start the D2 lynch-wagon early), which I'm tentatively in agreement with, pending my own re-read of Zyth. The first part of this post
is interesting - how could three or four players likely be the entire scum team, or does he mean the entirety of one scum team? Either way, it seems like a slip of knowing more about the setup than he should. His immediate vote for Zyth straight out of the blocks on D2, claiming it is "obvious" is not so to me in isolation (I assume it's because he pushed against the moody lynch), but he makes little to no attempt to (re-)explain his reasons. This is in contrast to the cases provided by others against Zyth.
@Sabrar - please could you clarify why you believed Zyth to be scum at that point in time.
Summary - overall, nothing's too significantly scummy from him, and there are plenty of townie things. I think it is fairly likely that Sabrar is town.
SirGabriel/Amrock - not sure there's much point in doing a read here. I don't see why they would have lied about their role and win condition at this point, and I agree with others that I don't want to risk an indie win preventing a town win. I'm not massively in a hurry to see them lynched, but the judgement lynch seems as good as any way of dealing with them.
@Amrock - If you want to have any chance of staying alive, you're going to need to convince us that LaserGuy is scum, and that your use to town is well worth the risk of you sneaking an indie win ahead of town.
Spak - I already did a read based on most of his D1 content, where I labelled him as probably town. His posts since then haven't had a huge amount in them either way, presumably because he was desperately trying to catch up. I like this comment: "The OMGUS is strong in this one lol" with regards to Gamma's read on Maven, especially given Maven's flip.
Overall, I'm still reading Spak as likely town, but he could really do with some clearer reads on players - who does he find to be scum? Who are moody's likely scum buddies. For the time being, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and say it's currently just due to him being behind.
Znirk - his initial post seemed a reasonable way to start things out, but he's since gone very quiet. He does raise a reasonable point about voting for Madge being a good way to avoid committing to an opinion. On the other hand, I noticed that he did not post any real opinion on moody before joining the eventual wagon to lynch him. Overall, he definitely needs to post more opinions. I'd particularly like to hear his thoughts on BoomFrog, whom he has as one of his scummier players, but hasn't really explained. Similarly, his thoughts on Ryu and Gamma would be welcome. I'm giving him a bit of slack due to previously claimed RL issues, so he is currently just the townie side of the neutral line, but the longer he goes without more contribution the scummier he'll slide.
Current reads on the players I haven't re-read since D1. These are mostly gut reads:
Town: Evil George Washington, Madge (possibly indie), LaserGuy, Peaceful Whale, bessie, mpolo
Somewhere close to the boundary between the two: Red Ryu, heuristically_alone
Scum: Zyth, Gamma Emerald
People I literally have no idea on: FrozenFlame, BoomFrog
I'll try to find time tomorrow to properly re-read these 12 players, in particular the 6 people not in the Town bucket.
That's all I've got time for. Turns out that it takes a REALLY long time to re-read active players in a game this size.