I agree with Bessie on people not getting the computer and work limitations that can make it difficult to consistently post with walls and so many posts. Plus like 16 players, I'm willing to give some slack on this. (not for any personally biased reasons or anything)
@Bessie, part of the issues with Whale it is the fact he kind of put his name out there and hinted as his tracker role. I get where laser is coming from but I agree with you it's not needed and Whale should have never posted that info in the first place.
I agree Madge is not being particularly helpful for the posts from what I did read for today outside of some ideas on how to use the treestump role to hammer, which I kind of like because it shows foresight even if I think the idea will not work.
Noted Zen's reasoning for town Boomfrog.
I do like Laser's point on page 28 about Zyth on strongest scum player, it's obviously me because I'm totally not terrible at mafia, but I am curious for the basis of that kind of point as well.
mpolo wrote:I fear that I am responsible for the Judgment falling onto Amrock, however. At the point when I sent in my action, Zyth was one of my town reads. Hoping he'd get killed, I swapped him with LaserGuy/Amrock.
Judgment Vote: Amrock
Wait, how does this timeline work? When did you submit your action? Why did you think Zyth would be the target of a killing action at that point in time? Is Zyth still a townread?
Gamma Emerald wrote:Holy shit mpolo just shot up in my townreads, this was my exact working theory for why Amrock was gladiated.
Why would you come to this conclusion? At the end of D1, lots of people were feeling that Zyth was looking scummy. He wasn't a prime target for scum to kill.
I only had a problem with his read on me, because why couldn't we be town bros day 1 zen!, but nothing much to make me double take. the main catalyst is the Moody flip. After that I am a but more concerned about Zen.
plytho for town of his posts before and not on page 28.
Gonna mark down Mpolo's read list here. Will get back to this since some scum reads I don't understand.
Whale is obvious newbie town at this point.
@Laserguy nooo work with me! We can be townie pals and get scum together! :< I'm a bit curious why he doesn't have the same issues Ran and I do with Boom but will again read more detail on readlists later.
#HBC | Zyth wrote:These players aren't doing anything. Perhaps the active posters slow down posting so that they can get caught up.
Dear god this!
all of this!
Point from Mpolo, Spak needs more content.
Dear lord, we need to end Amrock via judgement, no questions asked.
Jim's read list seems fine and mostly in line with my own thoughts, will also note this and get back to it.
Noting his readlist here will again be back to this later.
Zen's long post, noting defense since I want to analyze it later.
Znirk needs to post like now, will be in my vote pool as a result.
Kind of just skimming recent posts after this, really want to focus on key points just to catch up and not some minor questions. If it ends up something to read back on later I will.
Madge wrote:@bessie: I think my claim plus my meta is keeping me alive atm. I'm not enjoying the pace of this game (SO MUCH TO READ), so it's hard to stay motivated with all the walls of text happening.
Yes, but I’m wondering why LaserGuy thinks your claim is not helping keep you alive, because to be quite honest, your content has not been super duper ultra townie spectacular so far this game. He does have a meta townie read of you here
, despite you feeling kind of scummy to him.
Refresh me on this, has it? I might be forgetful on this given going back and forth at work on this.
Tell for me was speculation on how to use the treestump stuff today.
Evil George Washington wrote:I don't see why we should help Madge when she won't even consider to help town.
Would consider her speculation to dodge dying and hammering from earlier to be this?
Maybe I am giving too much credit for this here? hmm will think on this.
Madge wrote:vote: evil george washington
there you go, I'm voting! ...too much?
but seriously... like, why are you so obsessed with me
? I mean I'm obsessed with me because I'm so amazing, but you can't possibly know that already.
For the record: I will happily become a tree stump if the alternative is NL. This will not change.
I hate this vote, in turn what other thoughts do you have on the players at large rather than just Evil George Washington?
mpolo wrote: #HBC | Zyth wrote:
mpolo wrote:Really annoyed with a "not doing anything" when I put several hours into reading this thread today and produced a long post. (Just spent another hour reading the end of the day.) If it is absolutely required to get a post in every 2-3 hours you can just lynch me, because I do have a life outside the forum.
sorry. I'm the one that needs to read. I misread your post asking me about my claim. I thought you were asking me about n0. Yes, I used it n1 as well: on George.
I don't think I'm being too defensive. Two of the first few posts as soon as the day started were giant walls against me. Could you go through and tell me which points you think are valid against me and which points you think I've nullified or cleared up? I find it troublesome that I'm one of your scum reads when I was your strongest town read going into the night. What about my play did you not like at the end of the day? You have jim in your scum reads so I'm really confused here. It looks to me like you are just trying to line up with consensus despite not actually reading me as scum.
Towards the end of the day you got extremely fixed on lynching lurkers, even to the point of saying that lynching any lurker (logically including a townie) is objectively better than lynching scum. This rubs me very much the wrong way. Then there's some flailing for lynch targets. I understand to some extent, because the day was nearing end and consensus was hard to get. Sorry, the hospital claimed "Many of our rooms have free Internet", but mine had nothing -- no WiFi in sight, no Ethernet ports. Otherwise, I could have been of more help then. The consensus did have a major effect on my feelings on you, obviously -- I already said that I hadn't read the last couple of pages of D1 until my last post, so I was definitely colored by other people's analyses. When people I am tending to trust post, I do allow their analysis to color my thinking. Of course a Sabrar-EGW scum team could have made lots of plans during the long night to frame someone.
Posting this before reading the posts under this so as not to miss it. More in a moment, probably. Double Ninja not read yet.
What exactly makes a lurker more likely townie?
I've lynched lurkers before and they have flipped scum.
#HBC | Zyth wrote:I have a theory on Spak and Ruy, so I'm holding off on them for now, but if the crowd went that way, I'd definitely join in.
And oh look I am caught up.
100 confirmed furry ruy townie: Red Ryu
Town: Evil George Washington, plytho, Frozenflame, Peaceful Whale, Laserguy
null: Bessie, jimbobmacdoodle, mpolo, Spak(needs to be more active or would be townlead)
scum lean: Madge(reread content not a fan), #HBC | Zyth,
scum: Gamma Emerald(inactive and dislike content that was posted end of d1 and d2), BoomFrog, Znirk(inactive can die), heuristically_alone(inactive can die),
Gonna die to judgement: Amrock
Grabbed names I can recall from the front page don't think I left anything out.
I'll go from here.