Ginger wrote:Quercus wrote:Another genderqueer person here, I'm not really going to respond to the conversation (except to say that arguing against anyone's experience of their own body and mind is a shitty thing to do and I'm sorry that's happening to people), because it's 3 in the morning here and I'm not coherent enough to respond sensibly (and now I'm thinking that that turn of phrase makes me sound like a malfunctioning laser, which probably proves my point)...
Original context for my rant was something I overheard on World of Warcraft chat, which was: "You can be born a woman and transition to a man but that means you're only socially a man and biologically still a woman!" Which makes me read that as some kind of tribal chant like, "We must count you as a group that you clearly don't fit into for pure numbers' sake! You're 'biologically' a woman whether you like it or not ha-ha! :P" I was like oh no that can't be a thing because I am All Woman(TM) and regardless of my supposed biological makeup I still feel and act like a woman et cetera. So yes: People were denying my mind and bodily experiences for the sake of classifying me and others like me in the camp of being Still a Woman/Man/Otter/Duck because of supposed biology.
Urgh. That's horrible, and I'm so sorry that happens. I just want to say that, in case I didn't give that impression, of course you're a woman, and fuck anyone who says otherwise. My rant was referring exclusively to my experience, which is of being (and mostly being happy as, though with some frustrating elements of dysphoria) physiologically and anatomically male (and having that as a significant part of my ongoing experience that i want to continue to acknowledge), being mentally agender and socially feminine.