Hari Seldon wrote:Bessie, my question is why are you not considering that there is a Mafia Bus Driver?
I have been thinking about a mafia bus driver. It would still require wam to unknowingly target me every night. I think that I could accept the possibility of a mafia bus driver. What I’m having problems with is wam’s hypothetical lover targeting role. If town!wam does automatically target me every night, I would think that there is a mechanic where we could discover each other, which would be me targeting him since he targets me every night already, and that would trigger some ability like maybe mason chat, which didn’t happen. If not, what would be the point of this role? I really find it hard to believe that a watcher-that-secretly-targets-the-tracker-every-night role would exist for the sole purpose of throwing off the tracker. But as I said in this post
, it’s not impossible and the role wam described here
is also described in my role pm, so I believe he has this description in his role or safe claim.
Hmm, if wam is scum, it’s possible that he is looking for me. If so then he’s found me and something horrible will happen to me tonight. I’m going to assume (hope?) that this game is too small to actually have a hidden lovers mechanic or a recruiting mechanic.
jimbobmacdoodle wrote: Sorry, I made the classic error of getting tracker and watcher mixed up. I meant that you seeing wam visit Maven was the fake result.
I’m not following how your mistake would result from you reversing tracker and watcher.
wam wrote: 1. Bessie maven is coming across to me a flailing scum but I probably have confirmation bias. Ignoring your result what is read on mavens post irrespective to your result.
I’m not sure I understand the question. Rereading these two posts
I really can’t analyze them if I ignore my result, because the two posts are mostly about my result and my motivation. There s a bit about Maven’s role flavor which I have no reason to doubt is his actual role or a safe claim. I will make the general observation that if Maven is town and wam is scum, Maven should be scum hunting and doing what he can to flush out scum!wam’s partner.
Thoughts regarding confirmation bias. It’s possible that I have confirmation bias, in that I went in to N1 with wam at the top of my scum list. That’s why I targeted him. But from my point of view, I know I received the result I received (wam targeted LaserGuy and Maven). I don’t know that wam (or Maven) is telling the truth.
ConMan wrote:In the absence of effects that can confuse investigations (or bussing), I feel like we have to assume that either wam is scum or bessie and Maven are scum together.
I think that you are incorrect in your conclusion that wam and I can’t both be telling the truth unless there is a bus driver or other scum influence. But I think the possible situation where wam automatically targets someone(me, Maven, random?) every night is unlikely anyway, and we can revisit this tomorrow.
EBWOP: I am ready to close out the day. I even found an appropriate link a la what the Smashboards player were talking about in Crossover.
Ok, but please don’t hammer until everyone agrees to end the day. moody, on my cell phone I thought you were standing in front of an interesting mid-century modern house but now I see it’s just a big Texas.
Madge wrote:Personal note: I've had a couple of very intense days at work this week, so if the day ends early due to hammer, I might wait until the scheduled day end to post flavour.
Madge, if there is a hammer will you end the day and start night (adding the flavor later), or will you delay N2 start until you can write the flavor?
I will be available tomorrow night, but will be very busy Thursday night and Friday, and my posting will probably be limited to quick replies.
I still think it’s wam, but Hari Seldon has made some valid points on Maven, and I want to prevent a hammer while I think about his post .